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On May 18 2013 06:28 marvellosity wrote:
Do you think I've been unfair in anything I've written about him so far?
Not particularly, no.
But this question is weird. I've never seen you care so much about your image.
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On May 18 2013 06:19 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 06:18 Spicydinosaur wrote:On May 18 2013 06:13 goodkarma wrote:
It's worth noting that Vayne proposed a no lynch as town in his last newbie game that just finished up. He also hesitated to give reads that game too... I don't feel he's a good lynch right now since his play (though bad) is consistent with what I've seen him do as town before. As someone who was in the last newbie game, Vayne is playing quite similar. D1 he prodded a little and got a good number of people pissed at him then D2 he went quiet. He had a some suspicions on people but held back for the most part on revealing them. I did not like his play style that game as I felt the more information we had out, the better. Slightly sideways question - do you know anything of me? Whether the answer is yes or no, what do you make of my posting so far?
Don't know anything about you. Your postings give me mixed feelings. On one hand you claim early that you wont be able to post much over the next few days which feels scummy. Though you are clearly active atm asking a good number of questions. Still figuring out the banter back and forth between you and bn. You seem to like to go fishing D1 by just asking a ton of questions without really giving out your opinion, though it is early D1. So I would say right now I have a null read.
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On May 18 2013 06:29 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 06:25 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 06:13 VayneAuthority wrote:
lol you havent played in a game with me yet so ill fill you in. I always garner massive day 1 attention because my "shitty" analysis is pretty accurate. Scum want me gone early. There's no WIFOM when were talking a difference in playstyles here. I was just browsing filters and I found this hilarious. This is a totally useless post, but I really did find this hilarious. whats the joke so that I may appease to your funny bone more easily chap?
I just saw you throw your newbie game because you were too much of a pussy to follow your instincts.
this does not translate to = scum want me gone early (you were left alive to lylo)
hopefully this doesn't sound like a massive putdown, but... um... yeah. I mean, maybe you're feared on mafiascum, but don't make claims about how you're feared here until you have a legitimate reason to think so.
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On May 18 2013 06:13 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 06:10 yamato77 wrote:On May 18 2013 05:48 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 18 2013 05:40 yamato77 wrote:On May 18 2013 05:39 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 18 2013 05:35 Blazinghand wrote:
info comes from town taking stances on things that matter ie voting and scum trying and failing to imitate What info do we get based on gut feelings? oh thats right astrology readings. I will be sticking to my game of logic and not letting emotions get the best of me. If somebody scumslips day 1 I will be watching intently, but besides that im not gonna bandwagon some poor sap just because a "vet" deems him scum So you think you're gonna find scum by reading who they shoot? Most N1 shots tell you is who is town, not who is scum. In your opinion. After night 1 shots I will have at least one scum nailed and tunnel the shit out of them. There's no opinion about it. Night 1 shots are shots on dangerous vets. You trying to WIFOM why they were shot is not going to nail any scum realistically. That said, you'd be insanely stupid to suggest this idea in the thread as scum, so I'm going to treat you as town for the time being. The fact that you've managed to garner so much attention with your antics thus far should tell you something; your play is pro-mafia. I suggest you re-evaluate your strategies. lol you havent played in a game with me yet so ill fill you in. I always garner massive day 1 attention because my "shitty" analysis is pretty accurate. Scum want me gone early. There's no WIFOM when were talking a difference in playstyles here.
ffs ur so full of yourself
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On May 18 2013 06:31 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 06:28 marvellosity wrote:
Do you think I've been unfair in anything I've written about him so far? Not particularly, no. But this question is weird. I've never seen you care so much about your image.
you misinterpret my question, because it's not about my image, it's about how valid my pursuit is. I've pursued BH to a degree, and it's useful for me to get your feelings on what I've done. take it or leave it ^^
I'm pretty sure you can understand I have absolutely no use in you validating me as I'm mafia. Not that it proves me town, but if i were mafia, i really don't give a shit what you think about me.
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On May 18 2013 06:34 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 06:31 yamato77 wrote:On May 18 2013 06:28 marvellosity wrote:
Do you think I've been unfair in anything I've written about him so far? Not particularly, no. But this question is weird. I've never seen you care so much about your image. you misinterpret my question, because it's not about my image, it's about how valid my pursuit is. I've pursued BH to a degree, and it's useful for me to get your feelings on what I've done. take it or leave it ^^ I'm pretty sure you can understand I have absolutely no use in you validating me as I'm mafia. Not that it proves me town, but if i were mafia, i really don't give a shit what you think about me.
Given what I know about how you play mafia, I suppose that's true.
Carry on, then.
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On May 18 2013 06:32 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 06:29 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 18 2013 06:25 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 06:13 VayneAuthority wrote:
lol you havent played in a game with me yet so ill fill you in. I always garner massive day 1 attention because my "shitty" analysis is pretty accurate. Scum want me gone early. There's no WIFOM when were talking a difference in playstyles here. I was just browsing filters and I found this hilarious. This is a totally useless post, but I really did find this hilarious. whats the joke so that I may appease to your funny bone more easily chap? I just saw you throw your newbie game because you were too much of a pussy to follow your instincts. this does not translate to = scum want me gone early (you were left alive to lylo) hopefully this doesn't sound like a massive putdown, but... um... yeah. I mean, maybe you're feared on mafiascum, but don't make claims about how you're feared here until you have a legitimate reason to think so.
I threw the game? The other townie came in and voted at the last second for me. Why the fuck would it have mattered? I made it to lylo because I played my part as town perfectly, suspicious enough to stay alive and not bad enough to get lynched.
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On May 18 2013 06:20 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 06:18 Spicydinosaur wrote:On May 18 2013 06:13 goodkarma wrote:
It's worth noting that Vayne proposed a no lynch as town in his last newbie game that just finished up. He also hesitated to give reads that game too... I don't feel he's a good lynch right now since his play (though bad) is consistent with what I've seen him do as town before. As someone who was in the last newbie game, Vayne is playing quite similar. D1 he prodded a little and got a good number of people pissed at him then D2 he went quiet. He had a some suspicions on people but held back for the most part on revealing them. I did not like his play style that game as I felt the more information we had out, the better. remember that I went with your read over my own and we got fucked  you guys can call my playstyle shitty but I find things that others do not in the end.
This goes with my point, you hide your analysis from the group for far too long I think. Sharing the information earlier could have convinced me to go along with it.
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On May 18 2013 06:36 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 06:32 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 06:29 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 18 2013 06:25 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 06:13 VayneAuthority wrote:
lol you havent played in a game with me yet so ill fill you in. I always garner massive day 1 attention because my "shitty" analysis is pretty accurate. Scum want me gone early. There's no WIFOM when were talking a difference in playstyles here. I was just browsing filters and I found this hilarious. This is a totally useless post, but I really did find this hilarious. whats the joke so that I may appease to your funny bone more easily chap? I just saw you throw your newbie game because you were too much of a pussy to follow your instincts. this does not translate to = scum want me gone early (you were left alive to lylo) hopefully this doesn't sound like a massive putdown, but... um... yeah. I mean, maybe you're feared on mafiascum, but don't make claims about how you're feared here until you have a legitimate reason to think so. I threw the game? The other townie came in and voted at the last second for me. Why the fuck would it have mattered? I made it to lylo because I played my part as town perfectly, suspicious enough to stay alive and not bad enough to get lynched.
You should read some town guides on TL and listen to some of the podcasts. I don't think you understand how we gauge good town play whatsoever.
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On May 18 2013 06:36 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 06:32 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 06:29 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 18 2013 06:25 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 06:13 VayneAuthority wrote:
lol you havent played in a game with me yet so ill fill you in. I always garner massive day 1 attention because my "shitty" analysis is pretty accurate. Scum want me gone early. There's no WIFOM when were talking a difference in playstyles here. I was just browsing filters and I found this hilarious. This is a totally useless post, but I really did find this hilarious. whats the joke so that I may appease to your funny bone more easily chap? I just saw you throw your newbie game because you were too much of a pussy to follow your instincts. this does not translate to = scum want me gone early (you were left alive to lylo) hopefully this doesn't sound like a massive putdown, but... um... yeah. I mean, maybe you're feared on mafiascum, but don't make claims about how you're feared here until you have a legitimate reason to think so. I threw the game? The other townie came in and voted at the last second for me. Why the fuck would it have mattered? I made it to lylo because I played my part as town perfectly, suspicious enough to stay alive and not bad enough to get lynched.
you made it to lylo because mafia didn't deem you worth killing. I know this because I was coaching mafia.
At lylo, you said "i think dude B is mafia, but the dead townie thought dude A was mafia, so i'll vote for him". This was about 36 hours before the remaining townie voted for you.
Further, staying alive is not a success in mafia, it means you were too shit to kill.
Look, dude, I don't care where your ego is at or what you think, but don't bullshit in this game. MY game. I coached your last game and you were fucking easy meat because you were a coward. Argue it all you like but that's what it was.
when you're ready to use honesty, then comment on this game. Otherwise everything you say just feels like bullshitting. Don't type fucking bullshit like "mafia want me dead early" because no, from what I've seen, mafia very much want you alive.
Do we understand each other?
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On May 18 2013 06:38 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 06:36 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 18 2013 06:32 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 06:29 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 18 2013 06:25 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 06:13 VayneAuthority wrote:
lol you havent played in a game with me yet so ill fill you in. I always garner massive day 1 attention because my "shitty" analysis is pretty accurate. Scum want me gone early. There's no WIFOM when were talking a difference in playstyles here. I was just browsing filters and I found this hilarious. This is a totally useless post, but I really did find this hilarious. whats the joke so that I may appease to your funny bone more easily chap? I just saw you throw your newbie game because you were too much of a pussy to follow your instincts. this does not translate to = scum want me gone early (you were left alive to lylo) hopefully this doesn't sound like a massive putdown, but... um... yeah. I mean, maybe you're feared on mafiascum, but don't make claims about how you're feared here until you have a legitimate reason to think so. I threw the game? The other townie came in and voted at the last second for me. Why the fuck would it have mattered? I made it to lylo because I played my part as town perfectly, suspicious enough to stay alive and not bad enough to get lynched. You should read some town guides on TL and listen to some of the podcasts. I don't think you understand how we gauge good town play whatsoever.
Luckily I want to be good at mafia and not TL mafia so frankly im not too interested. I play by my own rules.
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On May 18 2013 06:40 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 06:36 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 18 2013 06:32 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 06:29 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 18 2013 06:25 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 06:13 VayneAuthority wrote:
lol you havent played in a game with me yet so ill fill you in. I always garner massive day 1 attention because my "shitty" analysis is pretty accurate. Scum want me gone early. There's no WIFOM when were talking a difference in playstyles here. I was just browsing filters and I found this hilarious. This is a totally useless post, but I really did find this hilarious. whats the joke so that I may appease to your funny bone more easily chap? I just saw you throw your newbie game because you were too much of a pussy to follow your instincts. this does not translate to = scum want me gone early (you were left alive to lylo) hopefully this doesn't sound like a massive putdown, but... um... yeah. I mean, maybe you're feared on mafiascum, but don't make claims about how you're feared here until you have a legitimate reason to think so. I threw the game? The other townie came in and voted at the last second for me. Why the fuck would it have mattered? I made it to lylo because I played my part as town perfectly, suspicious enough to stay alive and not bad enough to get lynched. you made it to lylo because mafia didn't deem you worth killing. I know this because I was coaching mafia. At lylo, you said "i think dude B is mafia, but the dead townie thought dude A was mafia, so i'll vote for him". This was about 36 hours before the remaining townie voted for you. Further, staying alive is not a success in mafia, it means you were too shit to kill. Look, dude, I don't care where your ego is at or what you think, but don't bullshit in this game. MY game. I coached your last game and you were fucking easy meat because you were a coward. Argue it all you like but that's what it was. when you're ready to use honesty, then comment on this game. Otherwise everything you say just feels like bullshitting. Don't type fucking bullshit like "mafia want me dead early" because no, from what I've seen, mafia very much want you alive. Do we understand each other?
Nope, my reads were correct, your wrong, peace.
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On May 18 2013 06:42 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 06:40 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 06:36 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 18 2013 06:32 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 06:29 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 18 2013 06:25 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 06:13 VayneAuthority wrote:
lol you havent played in a game with me yet so ill fill you in. I always garner massive day 1 attention because my "shitty" analysis is pretty accurate. Scum want me gone early. There's no WIFOM when were talking a difference in playstyles here. I was just browsing filters and I found this hilarious. This is a totally useless post, but I really did find this hilarious. whats the joke so that I may appease to your funny bone more easily chap? I just saw you throw your newbie game because you were too much of a pussy to follow your instincts. this does not translate to = scum want me gone early (you were left alive to lylo) hopefully this doesn't sound like a massive putdown, but... um... yeah. I mean, maybe you're feared on mafiascum, but don't make claims about how you're feared here until you have a legitimate reason to think so. I threw the game? The other townie came in and voted at the last second for me. Why the fuck would it have mattered? I made it to lylo because I played my part as town perfectly, suspicious enough to stay alive and not bad enough to get lynched. you made it to lylo because mafia didn't deem you worth killing. I know this because I was coaching mafia. At lylo, you said "i think dude B is mafia, but the dead townie thought dude A was mafia, so i'll vote for him". This was about 36 hours before the remaining townie voted for you. Further, staying alive is not a success in mafia, it means you were too shit to kill. Look, dude, I don't care where your ego is at or what you think, but don't bullshit in this game. MY game. I coached your last game and you were fucking easy meat because you were a coward. Argue it all you like but that's what it was. when you're ready to use honesty, then comment on this game. Otherwise everything you say just feels like bullshitting. Don't type fucking bullshit like "mafia want me dead early" because no, from what I've seen, mafia very much want you alive. Do we understand each other? Nope, my reads were correct, your wrong, peace.
you lost. ggnore.
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On May 18 2013 06:39 grush57 wrote:only way he will learn is if we punish him >
CTRL+F on your filter returned 0 starsenses, and this is a scummy post.
Why are you not scum, grush?
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On May 18 2013 06:42 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 06:42 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 18 2013 06:40 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 06:36 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 18 2013 06:32 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 06:29 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 18 2013 06:25 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 06:13 VayneAuthority wrote:
lol you havent played in a game with me yet so ill fill you in. I always garner massive day 1 attention because my "shitty" analysis is pretty accurate. Scum want me gone early. There's no WIFOM when were talking a difference in playstyles here. I was just browsing filters and I found this hilarious. This is a totally useless post, but I really did find this hilarious. whats the joke so that I may appease to your funny bone more easily chap? I just saw you throw your newbie game because you were too much of a pussy to follow your instincts. this does not translate to = scum want me gone early (you were left alive to lylo) hopefully this doesn't sound like a massive putdown, but... um... yeah. I mean, maybe you're feared on mafiascum, but don't make claims about how you're feared here until you have a legitimate reason to think so. I threw the game? The other townie came in and voted at the last second for me. Why the fuck would it have mattered? I made it to lylo because I played my part as town perfectly, suspicious enough to stay alive and not bad enough to get lynched. you made it to lylo because mafia didn't deem you worth killing. I know this because I was coaching mafia. At lylo, you said "i think dude B is mafia, but the dead townie thought dude A was mafia, so i'll vote for him". This was about 36 hours before the remaining townie voted for you. Further, staying alive is not a success in mafia, it means you were too shit to kill. Look, dude, I don't care where your ego is at or what you think, but don't bullshit in this game. MY game. I coached your last game and you were fucking easy meat because you were a coward. Argue it all you like but that's what it was. when you're ready to use honesty, then comment on this game. Otherwise everything you say just feels like bullshitting. Don't type fucking bullshit like "mafia want me dead early" because no, from what I've seen, mafia very much want you alive. Do we understand each other? Nope, my reads were correct, your wrong, peace. you lost. ggnore.
oh wow I lost in a game with 2 modkills on towns, you must be such a good coach bro.
Oh wait mafia got railed and you got bailed out by modkills l0l. just stop talking you look like a moron.
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On May 18 2013 06:43 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 06:42 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 06:42 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 18 2013 06:40 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 06:36 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 18 2013 06:32 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 06:29 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 18 2013 06:25 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 06:13 VayneAuthority wrote:
lol you havent played in a game with me yet so ill fill you in. I always garner massive day 1 attention because my "shitty" analysis is pretty accurate. Scum want me gone early. There's no WIFOM when were talking a difference in playstyles here. I was just browsing filters and I found this hilarious. This is a totally useless post, but I really did find this hilarious. whats the joke so that I may appease to your funny bone more easily chap? I just saw you throw your newbie game because you were too much of a pussy to follow your instincts. this does not translate to = scum want me gone early (you were left alive to lylo) hopefully this doesn't sound like a massive putdown, but... um... yeah. I mean, maybe you're feared on mafiascum, but don't make claims about how you're feared here until you have a legitimate reason to think so. I threw the game? The other townie came in and voted at the last second for me. Why the fuck would it have mattered? I made it to lylo because I played my part as town perfectly, suspicious enough to stay alive and not bad enough to get lynched. you made it to lylo because mafia didn't deem you worth killing. I know this because I was coaching mafia. At lylo, you said "i think dude B is mafia, but the dead townie thought dude A was mafia, so i'll vote for him". This was about 36 hours before the remaining townie voted for you. Further, staying alive is not a success in mafia, it means you were too shit to kill. Look, dude, I don't care where your ego is at or what you think, but don't bullshit in this game. MY game. I coached your last game and you were fucking easy meat because you were a coward. Argue it all you like but that's what it was. when you're ready to use honesty, then comment on this game. Otherwise everything you say just feels like bullshitting. Don't type fucking bullshit like "mafia want me dead early" because no, from what I've seen, mafia very much want you alive. Do we understand each other? Nope, my reads were correct, your wrong, peace. you lost. ggnore. oh wow I lost in a game with 2 modkills on towns, you must be such a good coach bro. Oh wait mafia got railed and you got bailed out by modkills l0l. just stop talking you look like a moron.
you've got a lot to learn. you were alive at a 2-1 lylo and you voted for a townie. I've never done that.
you specifically said in this thread "mafia like to kill me early". No, mafia love to leave you alive because at lylo you'll vote for townies.
You can rage at me all you like, but are you going to play the game, or talk about how awesome you are?
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On a tangential note, I could lynch grush.
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On May 18 2013 06:45 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 06:43 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 18 2013 06:42 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 06:42 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 18 2013 06:40 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 06:36 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 18 2013 06:32 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 06:29 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 18 2013 06:25 marvellosity wrote:On May 18 2013 06:13 VayneAuthority wrote:
lol you havent played in a game with me yet so ill fill you in. I always garner massive day 1 attention because my "shitty" analysis is pretty accurate. Scum want me gone early. There's no WIFOM when were talking a difference in playstyles here. I was just browsing filters and I found this hilarious. This is a totally useless post, but I really did find this hilarious. whats the joke so that I may appease to your funny bone more easily chap? I just saw you throw your newbie game because you were too much of a pussy to follow your instincts. this does not translate to = scum want me gone early (you were left alive to lylo) hopefully this doesn't sound like a massive putdown, but... um... yeah. I mean, maybe you're feared on mafiascum, but don't make claims about how you're feared here until you have a legitimate reason to think so. I threw the game? The other townie came in and voted at the last second for me. Why the fuck would it have mattered? I made it to lylo because I played my part as town perfectly, suspicious enough to stay alive and not bad enough to get lynched. you made it to lylo because mafia didn't deem you worth killing. I know this because I was coaching mafia. At lylo, you said "i think dude B is mafia, but the dead townie thought dude A was mafia, so i'll vote for him". This was about 36 hours before the remaining townie voted for you. Further, staying alive is not a success in mafia, it means you were too shit to kill. Look, dude, I don't care where your ego is at or what you think, but don't bullshit in this game. MY game. I coached your last game and you were fucking easy meat because you were a coward. Argue it all you like but that's what it was. when you're ready to use honesty, then comment on this game. Otherwise everything you say just feels like bullshitting. Don't type fucking bullshit like "mafia want me dead early" because no, from what I've seen, mafia very much want you alive. Do we understand each other? Nope, my reads were correct, your wrong, peace. you lost. ggnore. oh wow I lost in a game with 2 modkills on towns, you must be such a good coach bro. Oh wait mafia got railed and you got bailed out by modkills l0l. just stop talking you look like a moron. you've got a lot to learn. you were alive at a 2-1 lylo and you voted for a townie. I've never done that. you specifically said in this thread "mafia like to kill me early". No, mafia love to leave you alive because at lylo you'll vote for townies. You can rage at me all you like, but are you going to play the game, or talk about how awesome you are?
Don't quote something if you're just going to dodge it. Im playing the game just stopped to take out some trash. After you buddy.
If you've never voted for a townie at lylo then you've probably played 10 games max, nice credit loss bud.
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I feel that Stutters's play so far has been scummy. First, he completely contradicts himself about his thoughts on meta:
On May 18 2013 03:16 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 03:01 s0Lstice wrote:
the fact that i've only ever played town is a pretty important piece of information to share for people who don't know me/haven't played with me.
getting my share on, don't hate Maybe I'm reading to much into this but I'm wondering why you want people to focus on your meta? Let's say I tell you this is like my 13th game without rolling scum. What does that tell you about my play this game that you'd consider important at all right now?
So he doesn't feel meta's important here.
But:
On May 18 2013 03:19 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 03:07 DarthPunk wrote:On May 18 2013 03:06 s0Lstice wrote:On May 18 2013 03:04 DarthPunk wrote:On May 18 2013 03:02 s0Lstice wrote:
stutters, you got any scum games you can quickly point me to save me some time? OOHHH Let me. As town, He lurks but sometimes says useful things. As scum, He lurks. Ohhh but not this time, according to him. Stutters you are forbidden to lurk.
Not the first, nor the last time that phrase will be heard in this forum. Excellent summary of my town play. That fabled scum game is still waiting to happen though.
When it comes to excusing his lurky play, it matters.
Also, I found this to be scummy:
On May 18 2013 06:00 Stutters695 wrote:
Right now I could get behind a Vayne lynch. vayne how many games have you played (on TL and in general if you've played on other sites)?
In other words, he's ready to sheep onto a Vayne lynch bandwaggon if it gains momentum. But he doesn't want to draw atttention to himself by putting down a vote.
#Vote: Stutters
I look forward to Stutters's response. If it is to be believed he's sometimes useful as town, then that's another scumtell as he's been nothing but useless thus far.
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