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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
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s0Lstice
United States1832 Posts
WoS- I was reading your conversation with Marv about JJ. It devolved into an argument, so I peeled away and spent the time in JJ's filter for myself. There was one post in particular that you both talked about, Marv called it 'the worst post' in his filter. This was my biggest takeaway from your conversation. I agree that it looks awful, but I got really stuck on the couple townie looking posts I was talking about. Marv, I have to believe you are town with the way the votes went down. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
Vayne also refused my overtures to switch his vote to JJD, and then disappeared completely for the flip. To me it's not natural at all for a townie to be present very close before the flip but then subsequently not be around at all for the flip to see what happened and to comment on it. | ||
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s0Lstice
United States1832 Posts
The bit you just pointed out about JJ is really good. s0l is def scum-->getting nervous about marv-->SK must kill scum-->so he kills.....marv somehow. Concerning Vayne, I also feel like he is not adapting new information into his reads. I think I said this earlier, but it's like he's making reads in a vacuum. Not adjusting, not pushing, nothing....just making them for the sake of making them. I know for sure I talked earlier about his Spicy NK analysis where it was pointed out to him that Spicy was a parity cop and hence couldn't be breadcrumbing results of his night checks...and instead of taking this information in and attempting to fix his analysis he just stopped. On grush, I noticed in this game that the first time he said starsenses after being forced to, it wasn't bolded and green. I feel like when he says starsenses and means it, the formatting is always there. I need to look again at the games DP linked to see if he's ever said it without the formatting. Like..could he have been trying to leave himself an out for the postgame hellstorm he is sure to hear if he is in fact not town? He did eventually format it, but only after additional pressing. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
By the way I'm going to say this now in case I forget later, and this is the first night in a while I feel like I have a reasonable chance of being killed: townies should remember to no-lynch where appropriate. I've checked and we can ##vote: no-lynch, so if the game somehow gets down to a 2-1-1 situation, town must absolutely vote for a no-lynch and hope to get lucky, because lynching anyone loses immediately. By posting this I'm also hopefully forcing mafia/SK to follow along with this in the hope that they stay hidden from all other factions. Don't forget! | ||
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s0Lstice
United States1832 Posts
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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
You are left with Vayne, WoS, Grush, JJD. but you have to remove grush because starsenses. That leaves Vayne, WoS and JJD. two of whom have been somewhat town reads of mine. Like I think the sk should shoot JJD as the most certain to be scum. So vayne, WoS, JJD as not town. add s0lstice if scum team is 4 people? | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
On May 30 2013 02:03 s0Lstice wrote: I mean, I get that DP, but at the time it happened the game was basically in full stop waiting for him to say it. I don't think it's so simple. The attention was very much on him. He knows at that moment if he doesn't say it he is going to get lynched, no question. Are you confident that a scum grush just takes the lynch there? Grush is going to get lynched all the time without starsenses. If he wasted it for 1 win as scum then I am fine with just policy lynching him day one in every single game from now on. | ||
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s0Lstice
United States1832 Posts
On May 30 2013 02:06 DarthPunk wrote: Grush is going to get lynched all the time without starsenses. If he wasted it for 1 win as scum then I am fine with just policy lynching him day one in every single game from now on. Yea me too. This is the issue, because he is trapped between a rock and a hard place. There really isn't a good way to go here...either he abides by starsenses all the time and then can't play the game as scum ever...or he sheds the starsenses thing (by lying in a game about it) and he gets policy lynched a ton because there's no other way to discern his alignment reliably. If he's fucked either way, I don't think either way should be ruled out. At least by taking the lying route and getting rid of starsenses, in the future he stands a chance of playing either alignment by upping his game a little and reasoning with people. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
Some of what you guys are saying doesnt even make sense, if there was 3 mafia left and an SK then one of your town reads cannot be town. At the very least we know that JJD is basically confirmed scum by the late votes piled on in the wrong direction, wouldn't be surprised if one of grush or s0lstice is his accomplice and the SK could be on either wagon since hes uninformed. | ||
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s0Lstice
United States1832 Posts
On May 28 2013 13:45 VayneAuthority wrote: I don't see any contradiction I am telling it how it is. you guys are the 3 scum left. WIFOM won't phase me You are addressing WoS here. So WoS is scum. On May 30 2013 02:25 VayneAuthority wrote: whoa guys just because I started a lynch on some one I genuinely thought was mafia and they piled on late votes at the end does not make me mafia. Some of what you guys are saying doesnt even make sense, if there was 3 mafia left and an SK then one of your town reads cannot be town. At the very least we know that JJD is basically confirmed scum by the late votes piled on in the wrong direction, wouldn't be surprised if one of grush or s0lstice is his accomplice and the SK could be on either wagon since hes uninformed. The post you just made, WoS is not listed as an accomplice. I am however, despite the fact I did the opposite of this: On May 29 2013 05:28 VayneAuthority wrote: why would anyone town still not have voted with 30 minutes left besides grush Hes just gonna vote for JJD last second and were gonna lose, gee gee You are referencing me here. Explain please. | ||
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s0Lstice
United States1832 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
Why would WoS be an accomplice if he was on JJD the whole time? How can I suspect him any longer when he did nothing remotely suspicious? You can buddy up with marv/DP all you want you aren't phasing me | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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s0Lstice
United States1832 Posts
Are you here for awhile? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
On May 30 2013 01:24 marvellosity wrote: The reason I said that is because I assume mafia already figured out who I am and was hoping to either avoid getting hit w/ a roleblock or confirm my suspicions about you.As far as I can tell JJD is outright claiming scum by saying that s0lstice is clearly mafia but SK should be shooting at me. I'm attacking S0lstice tonight. Like I said, I'm about 100% sure he's scum. Also I killed Stutters meaning there was no mafia NK on the night that s0lstice claims he was blocked. If I don't get roleblocked tonight then marv is most likely town. Conversely, If I do get roleblocked then marv is probably scum. If my kill goes through, it becomes 2/2/1 meaning you can't lynch me because it ends the game. If by some freak chance S0lstice is town then I guess mafia wins. | ||
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