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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 24 2013 22:04 GMT
#1021
Also I said the opposite, but there we go
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
May 24 2013 22:05 GMT
#1022
On May 25 2013 07:04 marvellosity wrote:
I'm really not very upset, don't worry.


Good
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 24 2013 22:07 GMT
#1023
My point about Chrono Trigger is that everyone has something to claim, so not having something to claim is bad, so it seems logical to give mafia safe-claims in a game like that. In Chrono Trigger I would *expect* mafia to be given safe-claims. This game feels like it falls on the other side of the line.

Anyway it doesn't detract from the game (because i was dead thankfully :D), it's just something that didn't seem appropriate in a game with essentially normal roles. If that's how it's done, then so be it
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 24 2013 22:11 GMT
#1024
like this game was a 9/10 for me, so really in the grand scheme it's not that important.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
May 24 2013 22:11 GMT
#1025
On May 25 2013 07:07 marvellosity wrote:
My point about Chrono Trigger is that everyone has something to claim, so not having something to claim is bad, so it seems logical to give mafia safe-claims in a game like that. In Chrono Trigger I would *expect* mafia to be given safe-claims. This game feels like it falls on the other side of the line.

Anyway it doesn't detract from the game (because i was dead thankfully :D), it's just something that didn't seem appropriate in a game with essentially normal roles. If that's how it's done, then so be it


I see where you are coming from. If this were a game where I had stated "All roles will be board modified variants of normal roles" I would not have provided such safe claims. However I still would have given names for the roles that were not in use.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 24 2013 22:12 GMT
#1026
Do you not think it's a pretty big advantage for mafia to know what blue roles are in play essentially?

or do you think it's a compensation because themed games are easier on town?
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
May 24 2013 22:14 GMT
#1027
On May 25 2013 07:12 marvellosity wrote:
Do you not think it's a pretty big advantage for mafia to know what blue roles are in play essentially?

or do you think it's a compensation because themed games are easier on town?


Mafia did not know what roles are in play this game. Once again I restate that neither side had any information whatsoever as to the nature of the roles within the game other than the role that they themselves had.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 24 2013 22:16 GMT
#1028
well, on day 2 they basically knew a cop wasn't in the game.

I mean you can semantic over variants, but with how the roles were (i had 'medic', zeph was 'vigilante') it's not a massive leap for mafia to make to realise there isn't a cop in the game on day 2 when crossfire gave the claim
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 24 2013 22:17 GMT
#1029
I think I just want to be mafia and have an awesome safe-claim. it would feel nice
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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
May 24 2013 22:18 GMT
#1030
Did deconduo blind Zephirdd/mkfuba? I don't see the ability in his role description.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
May 24 2013 22:19 GMT
#1031
On May 25 2013 07:18 phagga wrote:
Did deconduo blind Zephirdd/mkfuba? I don't see the ability in his role description.

Read the first post in the scum qt!
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
May 24 2013 22:21 GMT
#1032
well on day 2 they only knew that you were a traditional medic. Plus its also hard to assume anything in my games frankly. I had vanilla town in a role madness game for example.

Do i personally do claims in the way crossfire did? No, as I said I normally have the scum tell me what powers they want, and i just put a name and flavor to it. I let corssfire handle much of the issues in this game, and did not find his safeclaim to be a game breaking problem due to the reasoning I have previously been providing.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 24 2013 22:21 GMT
#1033
on a sidenote i hate rolling medic
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
May 24 2013 22:22 GMT
#1034
On May 25 2013 07:21 marvellosity wrote:
on a sidenote i hate rolling medic


I know :D
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Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
May 24 2013 22:22 GMT
#1035
On May 25 2013 07:21 marvellosity wrote:
on a sidenote i hate rolling medic

Blame RNG. It was all done pregame before anyone signed up lol.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
May 24 2013 22:23 GMT
#1036
thats what you think
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 24 2013 22:23 GMT
#1037
On May 25 2013 07:21 GreYMisT wrote:
well on day 2 they only knew that you were a traditional medic. Plus its also hard to assume anything in my games frankly. I had vanilla town in a role madness game for example.

Do i personally do claims in the way crossfire did? No, as I said I normally have the scum tell me what powers they want, and i just put a name and flavor to it. I let corssfire handle much of the issues in this game, and did not find his safeclaim to be a game breaking problem due to the reasoning I have previously been providing.


Right, and that's a pretty big difference I think. Mafia should (in my opinion) have to ask Crossfire "I want to be a parity cop" or "I want to be a veteran" or what have you. Scum requesting powers is quite different from host giving a claim like that, i think
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 24 2013 22:24 GMT
#1038
I'm never sure whether Grey fucks with me or not in games. I mean almost certainly not (...) but the doubt is there
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
May 24 2013 22:26 GMT
#1039
On May 25 2013 07:24 marvellosity wrote:
I'm never sure whether Grey fucks with me or not in games. I mean almost certainly not (...) but the doubt is there


I will nurture this doubt and it will flourish into a beautiful tree.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 24 2013 22:27 GMT
#1040
lol. so who gets town MVP? fuba?
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