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##Unvote
Kush is making me uncomfortable.
BH, you're here and many many others are not. I'm removing myself from this tunnel so that you might change my mind.
Start by commenting on what I said about prplhz, and if you have anything to add now would be the time. You can't miss it, it's right before the post you're so desperate for me to link - I'm sure you've found it by now stop being a prick and just comment on it.
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Repeatedly asking me to link something you can easily find in my filter with the reading comprehension level of a TODDLER is being a prick BH. Just go find it and comment on it.
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On prplhz:
On May 18 2013 07:13 VisceraEyes wrote:Whatever I'll go first. I'm inclined to agree that prplhz looks bad. There are a few instances in this game where I feel like a prplhz would come in and bitch at town..it's one of his things he does as town. But that's something he has NOT done...which is never a good indication. There's also a lack of one of his most common scum-tells imo, but again, LACK of something is weak and I don't like submitting it as evidence. However, there ARE things that lead me to believe that prplhz is scum. Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 07:17 prplhz wrote: I'm really fucking annoyed that one of my cases is getting ignored yet again. I don't really write huge ass cases but that doesn't really mean that the case is bad. My first hunches in my last couple of games have been quite right and I have a good feeling about HiroPro but people are just ignoring my case because it's not a dumb wall of text. Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 06:11 prplhz wrote: @BlazingHand I know that you usually just spout nonsense but could you at least put something sensible together on my case instead of just saying that it's bad? Because that leads absolutely nowhere (and I don't really think it is bad).
I need to sleep now but we absolutely need a lynch today, lynches are really important and we can't have scum kill three times in a row without us lynching a single person. For some reason kushm4sta isn't happening but I'm kinda fine with HiroPro too.
##Vote HiroPro So he's salty about no one paying attention to his case, but when someone else picks up the torch, all of a sudden he's "kinda fine with it"? It sounds like trying to distance himself from a bad lynch to me, but that means that Hiro is a bad lynch (being the wagon in question). Conversely, it could be that prplhz' read of Hiro has changed a la his responses to the wagon and his suspicion of BH. I find scumPrplhz more likely...but I'm not sure if that precludes HiroScum. Tell me why you think prplhz is scum. Or tell me why you think Hiro is town. Or tell me ANYTHING AND STOP BEING A USELESS LITTLE SHIT.
On BH:
On May 18 2013 07:39 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 07:15 Blazinghand wrote:On May 18 2013 06:54 VisceraEyes wrote: ##Unvote
Talk to me about prplhz BH. ok so there's two big things about prplhz, but only one that I consider seriously a thing I'm lynching him for. First, and this is the important one, prplhz is pushing a lynch on kush that he MUST know is bad. he has stated repeatedly that he thinks kush is objectively scummy, but refuses to give a complete meta read on him. If presented with evidence that kush is ALWAYS objectively scummy, reasonably you'd back off, make a meta read, claim a red check, or state you want to lynch him for policy reasons. If you don't do any of these, you haven't actually demonstrated that kush is scum and not town. If you're not interested in doing any of these, then you are not interested in finding out if kush is scum or not. Basically, prplhz wants to lynch kush. Why? Well, prplhz claims it's because he thinks kush is scummy, but it's completely clear that nothing kush is doing this game is scummier than normal kush play. Prplhz says "well, he's more self-focused this game!" but doesn't give the evidence to show this as a legitimate meta read. He doesn't even say he wants to policy lynch kush. Why is he voting kush? Because he doesn't want to take part in the serious discourse/wagons (OO, WoS, and for some reason VE and HiroPro) and by voting kush he looks like he's doing something. It's completely clear what's going on here-- prplhz is opting out of the town discourse by voting kush. Okay well this is horseshit and isn't worth bucking the Hiro wagon over. I don't care what your read of Kush is, basing your read of prplhz off your "Hey kush is NULL bitch!" feels does nothing to sway me off Hiro. Keep in mind that adding a new wagon now is a suspicious move regardless of your target anyway - we nolynched after a N0 start with NKs...we're fucking screwed if we nolynch again imo, and that's what this looks like to me. Redeem thyself in mine eyes...or I swear to God I'll scream in this thread until every Hiro voter is on YOU instead. @OOIf you want to limit scum between WoS and BH, I'd say BH more likely to flip scum than WoS. This is epic level bad right here and BH isn't bad like this. He's bad in other ways, but.....not like this. Tell me why you think WoS is a better target.
As you can see, initially I agreed with you re: prplhz, but the more you refused to comment on my content on him, the worse and worse you looked to me, so the less and less I was suspecting prplhz. If you're town, show me.
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But he's pushing SOMEONE BH. That's more than Kush HIMSELF is doing man! That's my point - the action is null - so why would you have this huge scumread on him? To the point of bucking the only viable lynch at the time (which, by the way, you have NOT explained why it's horrible beeteedubz) - I just don't understand the motivation. YOU DIDN'T EVEN PUSH PRPLHZ, you just came in and was like "Hey guys prplhz scum cause Kush null BYEEEEEE"
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I'm a little salty at Prom for dumping this in my lap...I just wanted to lynch Hiro. I JUST WANTED TO LYNCH HIROPRO!!
We're having words when he returns, me and that guy. BET.
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And again - you're accusing him of something you yourself were doing. You weren't trying to talk about prplhz, or you would have been here...you know...discoursing with town? But you weren't were you? I tried. I tried to talk to you about prplhz and you fucking vanished man. So what does that make you?
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I have to assume that was something unsavory...and here I am trying to have civil conversation.
Whatever BH - we'll see about you soon. You being here right now assuages some of my fears anyway, and slOosh is right - we should be lynching Hiro anyway.
##Vote: HiroPro
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FUCK YEAH.
ObviousOne - If we're going to find scum together, you do the facts and I'll do the feels. I've read the thread and here are my feels.
Before we go all hasty mode and quicklynch prplhz, let us not forget that prplhz was the subject of BH's ire late in the day yesterday. I'd like to hear what prplhz has to say regarding yesterday's events and where he thinks scum are hiding. I still very much think he's scum, but I'm holding my vote for now.
Prom still coming into the thread wanting to talk to people "of worth" is really starting to bother me. That kind of attitude is very unlike Prom from what I remember - we don't play together as often as I'd like. Also his read of slOosh is bad I think. slOosh is looking EXACTLY like he did in Nomination (which I have read TWICE during this game so far) and I've got a solid townread on slOosh. My experience with slOosh is a very lurky, afraid-type scum. Not what we're seeing here, and he's sounding very townie.
I mentioned before reading Nomination twice. The other time was to look at Oatsmaster more thoroughly. I see the same semi-aggressive kinds of posts and I THIIIINK he's town. It definitely doesn't look like his only scum game listed in the TL Mafia Directory, but I think there's a more recent game I can look at? For scumOats?
shirokami. His votes yesterday were bad. Literally none of them came with reasoning, or even comment. I had him as newbTown but fuck. Firetruck. I think scum now.
strongandbig - I've actually been scum with strongandbig pretty memorably. We were scum together in ChronoTrigger, and he was barely playing at all. Here was his filter - it's only 6 pages and he died on Cycle 7. I haven't filtered strongandbig yet, but what I remember offhand is nothing like that filter. I'm leaning town on SnB.
Kushm4sta..........gets a post all his very own. Intrigue
These have been my feels. I'm filterdiving and available for questions.
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In LX as scum he had a planned absence, and he did something silly early on that drew a lot of attention to him. Then he disappeared, and he got mayoral lynched. He wasn't aggressive at all really, when he got caught he went kinda limp. Rolled over almost. No offense Prom..but I think he was asking to be lynched really. Or hoping he'd be forgotten.
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And he hasn't really been super aggressive this game either. He feels...restrained almost. I bet he's like, trying to not spam or something silly.
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Hehe it was Wave he was trying to get lynched come to think of it.
Srsmode...Wave confTown.
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Or no maybe Vivax. I don't know but that game was fun.
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Well he went like, out of town or something. That post looks more like a "yeah I'm busy irl etc etc" kind of pregame post. Prom literally wasn't in the game for a few days in LX after drawing attention from like ALL of the influential townies. He was fucked.
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Suffice to say, I don't think LX is an even representation of Promethelax' scum play in the least.
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If you're town don't worry about being called out. In mother russia, scum call out YOU.
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Well independently of BH pushing him, I thought prplhz was scummy. So there's that. The way he handled the Hiro thing is big to me. The lack of bitching at town, not so much.
But BH was pushing him. I just wonder if scum would have any reason to bus in that scenario. Especially considering HiroPro flipped town.
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On May 19 2013 19:15 prplhz wrote: Off the bat I think they both look okay maybe strongandbig didn't do as much as I remember from him in some recent game we played where we were both town.
I'll look more closely into them. How about that local sports team? I hear they made the seasonal championship event!
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EBWOP:
Could you be any more vague and evasive if you tried?
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On May 19 2013 19:23 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 05:52 Vivax wrote: Prplhz isn't just of a policy lynch from my perspective, but it adds up to the decision.
I hydrad with kush in Hydra II and I don't recall him playing that badly there, if he doesn't stay regularly active and eager to share who his reads are, then he's up for lynch. That should be more or less the situation atm, so yeah, add kush unless he brings some more to the table.
I prefer to lynch prplhz before Rayn, I appreciated his latest contributions, although I'll need more time to get to a conclusive read.
My recap about prplhz is that he tried too hard to play the "good & helpful townie" role at the beginning, while his inconsistency and lack of contribution tells otherwise. He had a bunch of unanswered questions and completely stopped pursuing them, and he spoke about some general advice/moderation stuff before that. After that, he disappeared to come back to say something about sloosh.
Prplhz is who I wanna lynch. QUOTED FOR JUSTICE Vivax would hate it if I didn't post this, I'm pretty sure. I just remembered that I have a boner for his town play and this sprung to mind.
Vivax' deathwish was for WaveofShadow's head on a pole. Just sayin. If we're respecting the dead, we gotta RESPECT the dead. For whatever reason he felt more strongly about Wave before he died than he did about prplhz...and I was townie on prplhz when Vivax was calling for his lynch sooo...I don't know about invoking Vivax in that way.
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Look at it this way: statistically, you're more likely to be right this time. :D
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