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On May 17 2013 16:40 VisceraEyes wrote:Shiro is literally just following along with town sentiment. He hasn't done ANYTHING today - literally nothing but vote. But something about it. Like look at this post: Show nested quote +On May 16 2013 13:40 shirokami wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 16 2013 10:06 WaveofShadow wrote: How the fuck does this make any sense at all? Is this an association tell based on me as well? The fact that Vivax afked the latter half of yesterday and left his vote on me is enough for you because BH changed it, even though BH was the main and aggressive proponent of my lynch all yesterday?
Fuck this is stupid. I just lost my hope on BH and vivax seems like a good guy, and I also want to see you hang buddy. Im like a the tramp dog from dat disney movie, on monday I eat at this italian who gives me pizza, next day I eat at donnie's who gives me some chicken. Im not a genius, I dont make posts that are hard to read because they are too long and full of emotional or useless bullshit, I dont say someone is scum because of his meta. I just like to agree with the towniest guy there is. BUT I will tell my OWN opinion when I seem it is necessary. but now, it is N1 and thx to some stupid people there were no-lynch. The NK will tell us something, And If I have an opinion about it, I will post it. My filter is short, and rayn and vivax can already tell that im town based on it, do you know why? IT IS EASY TO READ. Would scum SAY THIS? Like, let's remove all variables from the equation - don't factor in that he has a team - don't factor in that he's a "newbie" - just think of this from a scum-aligned standpoint. Can you think of a reason to EVER just come out and say "I just like to agree with the towniest guy there is." UGH but his filter is SOOOOO BAD. ##Summon: Promethelax ##Summon: Blazinghand ##Summon: slOoshYou three. You three will immediately give me your opinion of shirokami. You will do this thing or you will NEVER regain your honor! Based on the observation I just made, I think town. I think new town in over his head. But I want backup on this one.
Your assessment matches mine.
## unvote
I'm liking the Play from VE today and hiro scum slipped. Points to the first person to find it.
##vote: hiropro
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go find it you lazy shmuck.
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I think kush is probably town. I really tink he is a bad lynch today. Kush's scum play is full of calling townies town and scum scum. The more flips we get the easier it is to pin kush as scum. No case on kush is accurate without 1. check or 2. meta because kush is a dunce. He plays anti-town no matter what role he rolls, no matter his colour all the things you highlighted will be present in Kush's play.
Why not hiro?
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I like the bh lynch. Why? Because he is scum. Last minute switch? I think so.
##unvote ##vote: blazinghand
Meta read based on bh being an insufferable ass when scum. I'm out of the thread until after deadline. Make this happen.
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Starting to catch up now. Who is around and useful?
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On May 18 2013 08:52 Blazinghand wrote: what kind of shit is that, you can't just drop a vote with no case then say you're gone till deadline
so bh can be busy:
On May 18 2013 10:55 Blazinghand wrote: you know exactly what I've been doing. 3 games 1 hosted game. plus its Friday night. I don't have to put up with your shit on NY bright off but I can't? I'm playing in two games (one just finished) hosting a game was just hosting a game which is over I work all weekedn but when I pop in for the little time I have it is scum motivated. Uh huh.
So you'd rather I don't post my thoughts in the little time I have and let the lynch go away from the player I want lynched? I think not.
On May 18 2013 08:55 Blazinghand wrote: I'm currently being flood-controlled but here are my thoughts: if Prom is really doing this and bailing without backup, no case, just a vote, and saying he's gone till deadline, that's a clear scum move. I suggest we vote him. His play this game has been bullshit.
##unvote ##vote promethelax
interesting, you didn't have anything to say about me before this. Literally I have only appeared in your filter before this as a person you are replying to. So lets dive into the 'bullshit' my play has been. Or should we look into a trolly over compensating scum BH? The one with the post hoc rationalizations for calling prp scummy.
On May 18 2013 10:44 VisceraEyes wrote:I'm a little salty at Prom for dumping this in my lap...I just wanted to lynch Hiro. I JUST WANTED TO LYNCH HIROPRO!! We're having words when he returns, me and that guy. BET.
Word me bro. word me.
Sloosh is scum, hasn't cared about a lynch before but now we're in what scum probably thought was mylo he chainsaw defends BH and pushes through hiro lynch. Sorry I wasn't here to make this lynch land on scum. Assuming the game doesn't end tonight lynch into bh/sloosh tomorrow. If I'm alive I'll lead you on this road.
Sloosh, bh both scum. If viggies exist hit here.
And to answer my own question: no one.
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is the d2 final votecount accurate?
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being promethelax > being blazinghand
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Also I think Oats is scum based on votecounts. Need confirmation from hosts. What do you think mr Hand?
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On May 18 2013 14:58 Ace wrote:Day 2 wagons
ObviousOne[L-7]: Blazinghand, VisceraEyes WaveofShadow[L-7]: Oatsmaster, shirokami Oatsmaster[L-7]: WaveofShadow VisceraEyes[L-7]: Promethelax, ObviousOne, kushmasta, HiroPro, Oatsmaster, shirokami HiroPro[Lynched]: VisceraEyes, kushmasta, Promethelax, strongandbig, grush57, prplhz, WaveofShadow, shirokami, VisceraEyes, slOosh, grush57 ,VisceraEyes, kushm4sta kushmasta[L-7]: prplhz prplhz[L-7]: Blazinghand Blazinghand[L-2]: HiroPro, Promethelax, VisceraEyes, HiroPro, grush, shirokami, kushm4sta, kushm4sta, Oatsmaster Promethelax[L-6]: Blazinghand, HiroPro HiroPro, the Carnival Cruise Dancer (Vanilla Town) has been lynched!+ Show Spoiler + Carnival Cruise Dancer (Vanilla Town) - Welcome to another wonderful adventure with Carnival Cruise lines where high fantasy meets the high seas! Instead of dancing for dollars like in your former line of work, you now dance for a more respectable and legit clientele on a different kind of high seas. You've made it to the big time performing on Carnival Cruise ships for more than a year. However, you never forget where you came from and you can sense the movement of shady individuals, the smell of used cheap cigars dipped in a glass of alcohol, and the familiar crinkle of dollar bill coming out of dingy pants pockets. Your senses prove right as it is announced some meanies are trying to take over the ship. That doesn't bother you as you're used to being man handled, but the thought of them not paying makes you angry. And not paying for pleasure is the only sin you know exists. Get them off the ship or you won't be dancing much longer. You win when all threats to the cruise passengers (Town) are eliminated. Good luck! Have fun!
It is now Night 2. You have 24 hours to send in Night Actions. Night 2 will end Sunday, May 19 4:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
surely four votes puts a player at L-3
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On May 18 2013 20:12 Blazinghand wrote: based on the fact he didn't choose to hammer hiropro but stayed off the mislynch wagon? i think that depends on his rationale
based on the fact that after having zero votes one day he (appears to) have two votes the next day. Not claiming that is tantamount to a scum claim.
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ones who don't claim their double vote in a tight lynch with the tow candidates running very close to lynch and votes playing every which way?
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So, how about my bullshit?
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How the fuck has no one said anything while I slept?
BH, come back you scummy scum. I want you to tell me about my bulldhit play and how I'm obv scum but as soon as I say something you tell me it's a good catch and don't pressure me at all.
VE, get back in here. There are scum to catch. Words to be had, etc.
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You addressed not a single point I brought up. F for effort.
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Pretty sure your vote was inexplicably on me
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Yo Kushmaster. I think you are scum with Sloosh and SnB. Because you are. What say you?
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On May 19 2013 09:18 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 19:52 Promethelax wrote: Sloosh is scum, hasn't cared about a lynch before but now we're in what scum probably thought was mylo he chainsaw defends BH and pushes through hiro lynch. Sorry I wasn't here to make this lynch land on scum. Assuming the game doesn't end tonight lynch into bh/sloosh tomorrow. If I'm alive I'll lead you on this road.
Hey Prom, sick pre-flip association reads. You go AWOL last night, blame BH that he calls you out on it but then proceed to blame me for being late for day 1 lynch? You call me desperate scum that went for a gambit on mylo, even though as scum I would know the KP formula and be able to do basic math? You say I chainsaw defend BH even though the person pushing BH was VE and I didn't attack him, nor you in any way whatsoever? Q: If HiroPro was the wrong lynch, why didn't Prome say anything about it? A: He is scum that parked his vote somewhere else to avoid any responsibility, and now is trying to pin the blame of the flip based on the result, not on the analysis / justifications / reasoning.GG. Your desire for a perfect game was your downfall.
oh look, bh was scum. You were chainsaw defending him. Suck a dick scum.
On May 19 2013 04:38 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2013 04:06 Promethelax wrote: Yo Kushmaster. I think you are scum with Sloosh and SnB. Because you are. What say you? just because I found the scum doesn't make me scum.
Yes it does. It does a million percent. Scum team is bh, Kush, Sloosh, prp and SnB. [this is only true if busmaster is scum. He seems quite scummy though and he did vote bh and get defended by him. I need to look into Kush meta and vote analysis before I am totally sure of this though]
On May 19 2013 18:11 VisceraEyes wrote:FUCK YEAH. ObviousOne - If we're going to find scum together, you do the facts and I'll do the feels. I've read the thread and here are my feels. Before we go all hasty mode and quicklynch prplhz, let us not forget that prplhz was the subject of BH's ire late in the day yesterday. I'd like to hear what prplhz has to say regarding yesterday's events and where he thinks scum are hiding. I still very much think he's scum, but I'm holding my vote for now. Prom still coming into the thread wanting to talk to people "of worth" is really starting to bother me. That kind of attitude is very unlike Prom from what I remember - we don't play together as often as I'd like. Also his read of slOosh is bad I think. slOosh is looking EXACTLY like he did in Nomination (which I have read TWICE during this game so far) and I've got a solid townread on slOosh. My experience with slOosh is a very lurky, afraid-type scum. Not what we're seeing here, and he's sounding very townie. I mentioned before reading Nomination twice. The other time was to look at Oatsmaster more thoroughly. I see the same semi-aggressive kinds of posts and I THIIIINK he's town. It definitely doesn't look like his only scum game listed in the TL Mafia Directory, but I think there's a more recent game I can look at? For scumOats? shirokami. His votes yesterday were bad. Literally none of them came with reasoning, or even comment. I had him as newbTown but fuck. Firetruck. I think scum now. strongandbig - I've actually been scum with strongandbig pretty memorably. We were scum together in ChronoTrigger, and he was barely playing at all. Here was his filter - it's only 6 pages and he died on Cycle 7. I haven't filtered strongandbig yet, but what I remember offhand is nothing like that filter. I'm leaning town on SnB. Kushm4sta..........gets a post all his very own. IntrigueThese have been my feels. I'm filterdiving and available for questions.
I guess I see where you are coming from on that, but no. When I have limited time I much prefer to hear from people who can use my time wisely. We'll play together more <3.
Who do you have as scum with Shiro/Prp and why is shiro scum? Everything he does is too openly scummy and if Rayn really can read him like Rayn suggested I'll take that read over my own since objectively scummy players are so often just objectively scummy despite alignment (take a gander at Kush or Stutters for decent examples.)
On May 19 2013 18:43 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2013 18:29 VisceraEyes wrote: Suffice to say, I don't think LX is an even representation of Promethelax' scum play in the least. Yeah, okay, let's look at it this way: Prom has 2 scum games listed in his profile, one was a newbie game from ages ago and then there was LX which was random as fuck obviscummy. Take a gander at British Empire Mini II. He was town there, his early game features tons of short posts, very few large posts/mega-cases. Lots of willingness to discuss things. I don't get that bossy tone that we're seeing here in his posts from British; he's very handily demonstrating inquisitive/paranoid tendencies in British. Here he's assuming a commanding presence, but the counter-point to that is that his expected activity would not really support that playstyle for this particular game. I need to read his filter through-and-through here but that's one major difference I'm noticing that really can't be explained unless he's intentionally trying to be tough guy here and what's the town motivation for sounding like a bully? Here his posts feel less like a discussion and more like a dictatorship. He's driving but he's AFK. GHOST-RIDE THE WHIP!Does that jive with what you're feeling? Can't really do a meta analysis of his mafia play when he has two games ever and they are so far apart / different in nature. I can just point out what I see as not really feeling like his town play and guess as to whether or not that makes him scummy. Last thought for the moment, need to look at how he voted for BH, like that entire conversation in context of the thread, that's where the Swedish Fish are likely hiding.
You may have read my recent mafia scum game, in it I played very aggressive and in your face. The reason for it in that game, and my more aggressive posting in this game, is that I couldn't have the level of thread interaction I want (there because the other players were never in the thread, here because I'm not).
There is a third newbie mafia game in my profile too, not sure why none of you are looking at me for real, like, its colour coded and shit. Its much more similar to the LX scum game than it its to nmm XIX.
I'm torn between annoyed and honoured that you think my scum game is good enough to be what I'm doing here.
On May 19 2013 19:37 Oatsmaster wrote: kkkkkk We are not lynching WoS because? Because he is town. Its a pretty simple equation really.
OO, bh is a bit of a prickenstein as either alignment, its his schtick. But as scum he plays up the prick and plays down the being useful. Go look at his town play in Liquid City or the more recent LX. The kid isn't so bad as to just fight people because of his ego, he uses that to hide in when he rolls scum. Me voting bh in the ~three seconds I was in the thread would be hilariously bad if I was scum. I didn't give reasons or attempt to make myself look good from a possible d3 flip since it was a lynch between bh and Hiro d2.
I'm not voting until i get back from work and get to finish analyzing everything I want to look at. I like this prp/kush lynch dichotomy at the moment though. I'm sure at least one of the two is scum. Another player I'd like to look at is Oats, someone remind me to filter him when I get home, he seems different to how I'm used to him playing town and I need to see if ti matches his scum play. Son of a bitch won't even sheep me.
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