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On May 14 2013 20:29 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 15:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
BH you and I are on seemingly exact wavelengths this game. Not sure what to make of that.
I wasn't sure as to whether or not kita was town or scum but I know he was a good kill for mafia. DP not so much due to thread sentiment, but I do believe they were likely both scum NKs, no vig involved. Personally if scum were thinking like me I think they'd basically assume DP was town and that town KNEW he was town; and letting him get away as an active (assume-confirmed) townie is a no-no as scum. I'm not sure it was a good play as scum though since it essentially destroys any hope of them trying to secure the miller mislynch today, especially since there were definitely some townies who may have been on board for that, but DP is a valuable townie so we're at a loss for sure in the end.
This is essentially why I was wondering whether it was a good idea to bother starting up conversation before the N0 NKs; it essentially assured the mafia that kita/DP would be good first kills due to their activity. It's probable that other strong townies will pop up as the game goes on but the two of them painted massive targets on their backs imo. Vivax, this is WoS's reasoning for killing DP. He was one of two players who suggested a reason to kill DP immediately after the day post. Chaoser, you were asking about why it mattered to me that Oats called the DP shot a vig shit. I am working off the assumption that both night kills were scum directed and Oats' post felt genuine, if I believe that his first assumption was that DP had been vigged that precludes the possibility of Oats scum. Oats' play aside from that is quite possibly scum play but as I have recenly taken a hit to my confidence when it comes to reading Oats I'll stick with the town tell and put him on the townie side of null.
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I do not understand that reasoning. The fact that he seems to have thought DP was vigged is enough to make you ignore everything else scummy about him? Even though he calls it a scum kill later on in the day which Sloosh already pointed out and hasn't decided which he thinks it is?
Alright I see what I'm dealing with here.
Go ahead and lynch me; then maybe you'll realize your 'assumptions' shouldn't be. Either that or you'll all just justify it to yourselves because you're all just oh so fantastic at mafia.
I'm done defending myself because you're not going to listen to that.
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Oats already pointred out my P1 was wrong (cause I didn't see DP said he should rather be vigged than checked).
As for the association stuff you bring up, my read on you is not based on association. I simply stated that you being scum doesn't exclude Rayn and prplhz from being it, too, but it most likely excludes Oats. That is unrelated to the points brought up against you, I just wanted to make clear that my reads on the two are on ice, and why I won't consider voting for Oats while having you as scum.
I would rather have you bring good directions on who to lynch to the table, and comment on as many people as you can, I'm obviously mostly interested in your opinion on my other two scumreads. You have defended yourself enough this game and if you're town in danger of a lynch then you should be giving us better directions to work into rather than just kicking at your attackers. It's realistic that you might die today, so consider giving out some reads you want us to pursue after your death, in that case.
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Honestly, I'm insulted that you'd think my scum play (WHICH DOESN'T FUCKING EXIST YET) is so unbelievably terrible that I'd make excuses for a scum kill AS SCUM right after a NK to out myself. Like that's fucking retarded and if it's this kind of play you think I embody right now I suppose there's no hope for me.
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Not association tells on me but on other people regarding my flip.
I'm not going to get lynched today, simple as that.
I have already mentioned I want Oats to be a lynch target but people are ignoring me.
I have commented on prplhz and Rayn but people seem to be ignoring that too.
Anyone else you want me to comment on so I can be ignored?
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k
quick lynch now.
this dude is scum.
Contrast this behavior with the one from Ego, he was almost lynched day 1 too. Similar situations. different reactions.
Go look at it.
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On May 14 2013 23:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
I do not understand that reasoning. The fact that he seems to have thought DP was vigged is enough to make you ignore everything else scummy about him? Even though he calls it a scum kill later on in the day which Sloosh already pointed out and hasn't decided which he thinks it is?
Alright I see what I'm dealing with here.
Go ahead and lynch me; then maybe you'll realize your 'assumptions' shouldn't be. Either that or you'll all just justify it to yourselves because you're all just oh so fantastic at mafia.
I'm done defending myself because you're not going to listen to that.
Lol.
So Im scum because I flipped my read on you? right? thats your only justification. Cool 
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Haha I can see it now.
When my first mafia game finally happens I get outed based on meta which people try to pull every game and are wrong, and the time they get it right they get all vindicated and shit.
haha oh you guys.
Go ahead and explain yourself then Oats.
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On May 14 2013 23:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Haha I can see it now.
When my first mafia game finally happens I get outed based on meta which people try to pull every game and are wrong, and the time they get it right they get all vindicated and shit.
haha oh you guys.
Go ahead and explain yourself then Oats.
lulz.
Go and pull similarities from that game and defend yourself
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On May 14 2013 23:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Haha I can see it now.
When my first mafia game finally happens I get outed based on meta which people try to pull every game and are wrong, and the time they get it right they get all vindicated and shit.
haha oh you guys.
Go ahead and explain yourself then Oats.
So you admit being mafia?
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On May 14 2013 23:36 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 23:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Haha I can see it now.
When my first mafia game finally happens I get outed based on meta which people try to pull every game and are wrong, and the time they get it right they get all vindicated and shit.
haha oh you guys.
Go ahead and explain yourself then Oats. lulz. Go and pull similarities from that game and defend yourself
No.
I've already said I'm not spending all day defending myself.
The fact that everybody is so quick to look at points to implicate me is enough to see that it's not defending myself that will save me. Case and point Vivax's fallacious point against me; if he'd been reading throroughly and not looking for a way to implicate me as scum via me 'implying' some shit or other, he'd have seen that was wrong.
+ Show Spoiler +You know, there's a really great reason that perfectly explains my townread on DP from the start, but ongoing game.
Anyway, you gonna answer my questions? Or we both just gonna tunnel each other all day until the sheep come home?
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On May 14 2013 23:45 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 23:36 Oatsmaster wrote:On May 14 2013 23:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Haha I can see it now.
When my first mafia game finally happens I get outed based on meta which people try to pull every game and are wrong, and the time they get it right they get all vindicated and shit.
haha oh you guys.
Go ahead and explain yourself then Oats. lulz. Go and pull similarities from that game and defend yourself No. I've already said I'm not spending all day defending myself. The fact that everybody is so quick to look at points to implicate me is enough to see that it's not defending myself that will save me. Case and point Vivax's fallacious point against me; if he'd been reading throroughly and not looking for a way to implicate me as scum via me 'implying' some shit or other, he'd have seen that was wrong. + Show Spoiler +You know, there's a really great reason that perfectly explains my townread on DP from the start, but ongoing game. Anyway, you gonna answer my questions? Or we both just gonna tunnel each other all day until the sheep come home?
Questions about what?
Also push me or someone please. You arent allowed to whine about defending yourself if you arent finding mafia.
WoS, no one really cares about your townread on DP, its the other stuff that Vivax and Prome said.
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On May 14 2013 23:43 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 23:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Haha I can see it now.
When my first mafia game finally happens I get outed based on meta which people try to pull every game and are wrong, and the time they get it right they get all vindicated and shit.
haha oh you guys.
Go ahead and explain yourself then Oats. So you admit being mafia?
Is that really necessary? If you can all come off of your "I CAUGHT MAFIA I'M THE BEST PLAYER AROUND' high, maybe use your giant fucking brains and we can actually get something real done today.
Why are you all so quick to ignore or even implicate those who think I'm town? What do people find scummy about Hiro? I don't quite understand his reasoning for thinking I'm town about chaoser and RoL, but he is the only person who questioned BH's read early like I did; the rest of you just lapped it up. His activity hasn't been fantastic but his OO push seemed genuine enough.
Auto-scum though, right?
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Speaking of OO, I would like to hear his thoughts on the matter; he's one of a couple people I expected to be more useful at this point in the game; all he's done is OMGUS on Hiro, really. He shares my read of Oats but without much reasoning given.
OO, thoughts on cases re: me, Oats?
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On May 14 2013 23:50 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2013 23:43 Vivax wrote:On May 14 2013 23:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Haha I can see it now.
When my first mafia game finally happens I get outed based on meta which people try to pull every game and are wrong, and the time they get it right they get all vindicated and shit.
haha oh you guys.
Go ahead and explain yourself then Oats. So you admit being mafia? Why are you all so quick to ignore or even implicate those who think I'm town? What do people find scummy about Hiro? I don't quite understand his reasoning for thinking I'm town about chaoser and RoL, but he is the only person who questioned BH's read early like I did; the rest of you just lapped it up. His activity hasn't been fantastic but his OO push seemed genuine enough. Auto-scum though, right?
Because townies read scum as town all the fucking time.
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On May 13 2013 15:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
BH you and I are on seemingly exact wavelengths this game. Not sure what to make of that.
I wasn't sure as to whether or not kita was town or scum but I know he was a good kill for mafia. DP not so much due to thread sentiment, but I do believe they were likely both scum NKs, no vig involved. Personally if scum were thinking like me I think they'd basically assume DP was town and that town KNEW he was town; and letting him get away as an active (assume-confirmed) townie is a no-no as scum. I'm not sure it was a good play as scum though since it essentially destroys any hope of them trying to secure the miller mislynch today, especially since there were definitely some townies who may have been on board for that, but DP is a valuable townie so we're at a loss for sure in the end.
This is essentially why I was wondering whether it was a good idea to bother starting up conversation before the N0 NKs; it essentially assured the mafia that kita/DP would be good first kills due to their activity. It's probable that other strong townies will pop up as the game goes on but the two of them painted massive targets on their backs imo.
Well WoS thinks that scum have to assume that townies are town. Don't discount the logic.
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Oats, come back and play. Who is scum (not WoS)? Why is that person scum?
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On May 14 2013 04:37 shirokami wrote:
@Rayn
um I think its because im trying to play without a notepad this time and play based on reading a fuckton of filters and trying to just make an image of the game inside my head.
the votes are on atleast 1 scum at the moment, just trying to think who that is.
I dont like Oats or WoS at the moment.
Shiro:
You went from OO and Oats to me and Oats to just me.
Do you like Oats more right now? Do you think we are bussing?
For someone who has professed to be around more this game you haven't done much.
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Yeah I found that part pretty funny.
WoS is totally scum
Never seen him this hysterical
This is a post from LX which our scumteam judged as being townie as fuck
On February 26 2013 11:27 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 11:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I really hate mayor day 1s because everyone operates under this assumption that mafia would obsess over getting the role, if I were scum I'd personally advise my team to not even run. Take that for what it's worth but the extra attention isn't really worth shit without bodyguards.
Wales Fell (or whatever the smurf is) made a good point that pardoner is really only beneficial to scum. But I'm confused why any mayor would announce intention to autolynch pardoner, broadcasting that plan to the scum guarantees that they won't get the role lol A thought popped into my head regarding this...it may be absolutely retarded but you guys will let me know that after the fact, won't you? Since the pardoner is inherently more dangerous as a scumrole and the plan to 'kill two birds with one stone' in all likelihood won't (or can't at this point) gain the traction necessary to be carried out, why not give up the role to someone who is likely to be targeted early anyway, or someone who if you are overly suspicious of, you can lynch yourselves anyway? Case and point: a newbie.
I graciously offer up myself to be the (possible) sacrificial lamb to do with as you will. If you so choose to lynch me for fear that I am scum, then I go down happily, hopefully bringing as much information to the table as possible before I crash and burn in an epic fireball. If you choose to keep me around, then I will serve the town gladly and I will offer up my pardon to save a deserving person. Since I am new to this whole durned mafia thing, I am likely to be either ignored or an easy mafia target, keeping the role out of scum's reach. WHAT SAY YOU GENTLEMEN
I want WoS to be an epic fireball but his pants seem to be too wet for that, and he mostly talks hot air.
I don't understand why he brought Hiro up.
I apologize if this post isn't designed for maximum constructiveness.
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On May 15 2013 00:14 Promethelax wrote:
Oats, come back and play. Who is scum (not WoS)? Why is that person scum?
Im lazy.
dont want to play.
At the moment though, ummm VE totes scum cause he hasnt posted a shitton.
Rayn too Im suspicious of.
Everyone else that has more than 2 pages of filter is town for now.
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