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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
That's my only thought right now. More after coffee. | ||
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ObviousOne
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VE I had you dead to rights if Kush hadn't voted. SNB analysis was spot on. My cases on you were good. You just pretended you were paranoid that I was scum and it worked out. I have nothing really profound to share except that prplhz was the hardest target to find. I would have waffled between him and shiro for last lynch. Shiro, for serious, I gave you the floor to talk to me about who was scum and you spit in my face.... I just. Ok. | ||
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ObviousOne
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DarthPunk
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On May 25 2013 18:21 ObviousOne wrote: Towns that get lazy deserve to to lose, and thus it is so. That is such a cop out. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
It doesn't make it any less true I was the only person re-reading the game at lylo. I made a solid case for SNB being scum. Kush already voted shiro and they just waited to hammer together. He admitted to not re-reading apparently, so how is it a cop out? Shiro wasn't playing. Grush wasn't playing. Kush barely playing. I told them I wanted the day to last for a reason. | ||
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ObviousOne
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ObviousOne
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DarthPunk
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On May 25 2013 19:07 ObviousOne wrote: Re read shiros filter and tell me that if you start from the position that he is scum that everything looks like a scum slip. He was the easiest lynch to push for anyone at this stage =[ Did you read ace's analysis? shiro should have looked townie night zero by the way he was talking about my claim and keeping me accountable by saying he would believe me when I lynch scum. He was a terrible lynch. you can't blame an apathetic town at LYLO because you will lose every game like that. Scum kills the good players first, so you are always gonna be left with kush and grush etc at LYLO (although kush played well best townie left by a long way) It is such a cop out to say 'oh well all the townies were lazy of course we lost' just tell them who to lynch, but more importantly don't let town get to lylo. If town had caught scum earlier it wouldn't have mattered how active/inactive the town was at lylo, they would not have got there. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On May 25 2013 19:03 ObviousOne wrote: I lied to Kush about my "fake suspicion" on VE the second go-around. I laid the groundwork and had the vote analysis to put the nail in the coffin tomorrow. The bolded is fucking retarded. Why are you WIFOMING around and confusing an already confused town? it is not necessary and is just bad play. If you knew VE was scum you should have fucking lynched him period. | ||
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ObviousOne
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On May 25 2013 19:20 DarthPunk wrote: The bolded is fucking retarded. Why are you WIFOMING around and confusing an already confused town? it is not necessary and is just bad play. If you knew VE was scum you should have fucking lynched him period. Doesn't matter to me if you think it's retarded. Kush started from the position that I'm retarded anyway, how am I going to convince him of anything if he's not reading the game or thinking critically about it once he's "solved the game"? He basically said NO VE IS WRONG and that was that. The voting analysis was literally the only way to show him that he was wrong and I did SNB first because Kush would be receptive to that. Unfortunately he parked his vote, so... | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On May 25 2013 19:25 ObviousOne wrote: Doesn't matter to me if you think it's retarded. Kush started from the position that I'm retarded anyway, how am I going to convince him of anything if he's not reading the game or thinking critically about it once he's "solved the game"? He basically said NO VE IS WRONG and that was that. The voting analysis was literally the only way to show him that he was wrong and I did SNB first because Kush would be receptive to that. Unfortunately he parked his vote, so... You lost once you lynched shiro. The play before that is important, after that you were fucked regardless. If you want to improve looking at your own mistakes is far more valuable than blaming an apathetic end game town (hint: all end game towns are apathetic) | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On May 25 2013 19:28 DarthPunk wrote: You lost once you lynched shiro. The play before that is important, after that you were fucked regardless. If you want to improve looking at your own mistakes is far more valuable than blaming an apathetic end game town (hint: all end game towns are apathetic) And that's why they should lose. That's the whole thing. End game towns have SO MUCH INFORMATION that they should not lose, but they do. Being apathetic is a choice, not a condition. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On May 25 2013 19:31 ObviousOne wrote: And that's why they should lose. That's the whole thing. End game towns have SO MUCH INFORMATION that they should not lose, but they do. Being apathetic is a choice, not a condition. NO. all the good players are dead. Scum shoot the good players and you are left with the 'bad' players. It is a function of the game mechanics. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On January 28 2013 07:37 GMarshal wrote: Special Signup rule: Wisdom of the Crowds: If you do not wish to play with a player for any reason, PM me, if I receive enough votes against a player (five or more) then he or she will not be allowed to play in this game. Your vote against a player will be held in the strictest confidence. You *must* be signed up to vote against someone. Get some more of this going and your problems will melt away DP. How can you complain at me if, because I've survived to this point in the game, I am by your qualifications bad. Complain to someone who is good. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On May 25 2013 19:31 ObviousOne wrote: And that's why they should lose. That's the whole thing. End game towns have SO MUCH INFORMATION that they should not lose, but they do. Being apathetic is a choice, not a condition. OO, you were alive at the end right? And you had the cred to lynch ANYONE in the game right? And you lynched town. I dont see how this is anyone's fault more than yours. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Otherwise town would have had a better chance. | ||
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ObviousOne
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marvellosity
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What's the point if a townie makes a long, well-explained, thoughtful case on a mafia and you just go "lol no he's town"?? | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On May 24 2013 15:30 ObviousOne wrote: Okay just to be safe. ##Unvote Shirokami Today is for talking. Shiro still dies at the end. PRP SNB IF YOU ARE TOWN YOU HAVE SOME TIME PLEASE BE USING IT ON THE OFFENSE, NEVER MIND THE DEFENSE TODAY | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On May 25 2013 03:23 ObviousOne wrote: Good old fashioned voting analysis D1: [Kush - "i think this is how he plays scum"] voted for BH. Everyone else was on town. No lynch occurred. Main wagon on OO voters alive today: SNB, VE. Both Sloosh and BH were also on it. At most one of VE and SNB is scum. D2: [Shiro - "goodnight sweet prince" bandwagon, offset the balance? Did all the rest of the scum vote for Hiro to make sure it stuck after a failed mislynch D1?] voted for BH. [OO - bachelor party] missed the HiroPro vote. Everyone else alive was on the Hiro lynch. Kush and VE waffled like crazy between Hiro and BH. At least 1 Scum definitely in this group: SNB, VE, Kush, Prp D3: [OO - voting for scum read] and [Grush - voting for scum read] on Prp wagon. [VE - being AFK] missed the vote. Everyone else lynched SK. 2-3 Scum definitely in this group: Prp, Shiro, SNB, Kush D4: [Prp - ??? gave up?], [VE - being AFK more], [Grush] missed the vote. Everyone else dunked Sloosh. Quick hammered. Foregone conclusion, nothing to take away from this. SNB's name pops up the most to me in the lynch lists as potential scum. Let's quick-look at votes. -Oats - for being Oats/random/stupid/craycray [boils down to stylistic policy] -OO - for OO miller grilling and martyr [boils down to martyr policy] -HiroPro - for dropping suspicion of OO suddenly, playing a tight game [boils down to activity policy] -Prome - SK speculation plus working with sloosh [finally some excitement and walls of text in pushing for prome] -Sloosh - because DUNKED you can't come back from an OO CC SNB's most enthusiastic involvement in the thread when it wasn't defending himself was pushing policies and lynching 3P. (also serves as TL;DR) Sorry I would keep going but I'm falling asleep with this. P.S. If SNB comes back with a town read on Kush that essentially makes me 100% mafia for him (unless he disbelieves the Starsenses) with the way he worded that post. Grush, what happens when people disregard Starsenses? TELL THEM WHAT HAPPENS. Please tell us, I don't want like the universe to implode or anything... THIS IS WHERE I WAS GOING OATS AND WHY I TOLD PEOPLE NOT TO VOTE. | ||
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