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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On April 15 2013 20:19 John Matrix wrote: And then you said you WOULD NEVER DO IT AGAIN Right, and I didn't protect him, I voted him. Problem broski? If you recall there was a majority on FMB and I took active efforts to make people think about the lynch that we were wandering towards. I'm pretty happy with what I did at the end of the day even if I didn't choose the candidate we ended up on. ~marv | ||
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John Matrix
163 Posts
On April 15 2013 20:23 FiveTouch wrote: Right, and I didn't protect him, I voted him. Problem broski? If you recall there was a majority on FMB and I took active efforts to make people think about the lynch that we were wandering towards. I'm pretty happy with what I did at the end of the day even if I didn't choose the candidate we ended up on. ~marv You are lying. Why are you lying? | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
Me protecting him is doing what I did in the last game. "Oats isn't scum". "I'm always right about Oats, he's definitely town". Stop being dumb, it's irrirtating. ~marv | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
On April 15 2013 20:26 FiveTouch wrote: I'm not lying, you just can't read. Me saying I think he might be town isn't protecting him. Me protecting him is doing what I did in the last game. "Oats isn't scum". "I'm always right about Oats, he's definitely town". Stop being dumb, it's irrirtating. ~marv You said basically the same thing this game. Stop altering the narrative of what went down to suit you. It's tiresome. And if you really are town then you are doing things (such as defending scum multiple times without much reasoning whatsoever) which are completely reasonable for others to be suspicious of. Now I know you can do stupid shit as town so I am not calling you scum. I just don't believe you are 'confirmed town' like some of these morons were saying and should be looked at like everyone else. -DP | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On April 15 2013 20:31 DarthPunk wrote: You said basically the same thing this game. Stop altering the narrative of what went down to suit you. It's tiresome. And if you really are town then you are doing things (such as defending scum multiple times without much reasoning whatsoever) which are completely reasonable for others to be suspicious of. Now I know you can do stupid shit as town so I am not calling you scum. I just don't believe you are 'confirmed town' like some of these morons were saying and should be looked at like everyone else. -DP I'm pretty clearly town and the fact you can't see that is tiresome. I'm not altering the narrative, you're just being a dumbass. I can't help that. And to repeat, I took active steps to derail the FMB lynch and provided no particular alternative. If you think that was some super cunning mafia play, you need to punch yourself in the balls. ~marv | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
On April 15 2013 20:33 FiveTouch wrote: I'm pretty clearly town and the fact you can't see that is tiresome. I'm not altering the narrative, you're just being a dumbass. I can't help that. And to repeat, I took active steps to derail the FMB lynch and provided no particular alternative. If you think that was some super cunning mafia play, you need to punch yourself in the balls. ~marv You clearly are altering the narrative by brazenly stating that you did not defend oats when it is clear to the entire thread that you, in fact, did. LMAO. The crux of the matter is that you aren't confirmed town. I dare you to say that you are. Now that we agree you are not confirmed town we can stop shitting up the thread, and get back to scumhunting. What do you make of all this stuff with syllogism? | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
On April 15 2013 20:35 FiveTouch wrote: And by the way, having a soft townread on a mafia before voting him for consolidation is not "doing stupid shit". Get a grip. ~marv Your vote was entirely superfluous. The only thing it did was put you onto the correct wagon. | ||
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John Matrix
163 Posts
On April 15 2013 20:37 DarthPunk wrote: You clearly are altering the narrative by brazenly stating that you did not defend oats when it is clear to the entire thread that you, in fact, did. LMAO. The crux of the matter is that you aren't confirmed town. I dare you to say that you are. Now that we agree you are not confirmed town we can stop shitting up the thread, and get back to scumhunting. What do you make of all this stuff with syllogism? On April 15 2013 20:38 DarthPunk wrote: Your vote was entirely superfluous. The only thing it did was put you onto the correct wagon. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On April 15 2013 20:37 DarthPunk wrote: You clearly are altering the narrative by brazenly stating that you did not defend oats when it is clear to the entire thread that you, in fact, did. LMAO. The crux of the matter is that you aren't confirmed town. I dare you to say that you are. Now that we agree you are not confirmed town we can stop shitting up the thread, and get back to scumhunting. What do you make of all this stuff with syllogism? I defended him a bit because I thought maybe he was town, he wasn't. For the third time, I pretty clearly did not protect him in any way because I took efforts to derail the majority on FMB and let town find a better lynch. If that's protecting, then that's the worst protection I've seen in my life. Did I ever say I was confirmed town? You said I was null, and it's patently obvious to anyone that we shouldn't be null. As for syllo, we just have to wait and see what he does today. I guess the anti-nuke can be launched right up to the deadline if he does stuff town's happy with. Anyway, Palmar has said repeatedly in the past that he can read syllo very well, and given you're pretty much guaranteed to be town, I'll be taking my cues from him most of all. ~marv | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
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VIVAX420
556 Posts
I thought that you couldn't undo thread nukes with pm, but his excuse that he just didn't know you could pm nukes is not likely. Not giving a shit is a huge scumtell for sandroba. He hates playing scum. in fact I don't think sandroba has been in the thread once. marv why are you even talking about saving him? not gonna happen nor should it. kush | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On April 15 2013 21:28 Palmar wrote: if im wrong on syllo marv 100% scum Are you on drugs or something? | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On April 15 2013 21:28 VIVAX420 wrote: Sam is looking really scummy to me right now. I thought that you couldn't undo thread nukes with pm, but his excuse that he just didn't know you could pm nukes is not likely. Not giving a shit is a huge scumtell for sandroba. He hates playing scum. in fact I don't think sandroba has been in the thread once. marv why are you even talking about saving him? not gonna happen nor should it. kush DP asked me about syllo, that's all. ~marv P.S. why don't you want to kill me this game? Is it because I'm with VE? heh. | ||
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John Matrix
163 Posts
THE ONLY DRUG I USE IS CALLED JUSTICE AND TRUTH | ||
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VIVAX420
556 Posts
On April 15 2013 21:46 FiveTouch wrote: P.S. why don't you want to kill me this game? Is it because I'm with VE? heh. town read unfortunately. The last scum is between FMB and NSB I think. | ||
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FondleMyButtocks
38 Posts
On April 15 2013 07:54 InsertSmurfHere wrote: Precisely. So let's talk about it before mafia shoots one of us. IGNORING NSB (since I hate talking about unreadables) Which of Mock/WoC are mafia? Syllo/Sand saying they didn't want to lynch WoC is highly suspect. I looked through rayns filter and noticed the following: Raynmaster attacked JM, SGB, SLJ, MA and 5T repeatedly. On the other side he completely ignored ISH and mostly ignored NSB, us and Vivax420. There is on Hydra that was different: On April 14 2013 18:30 raynmaster wrote: You said 'active' and confident. Right. Not exactly the best reasons to call someone town ever. I wanted you to expand on that but since you didnt want to, whatever. I feel that MA is misinterpreting WoC's push on him and that WoC looks like he wants to find out MA's alignment but MA isnt doing any of that sort himself. He is so closed up and prickly. No jokes and shit. On April 14 2013 16:32 raynmaster wrote: Your case is MA jokes when town and not when scum right? Or is it deeper? Scum still post summary posts even though its known to be scummy. Like why do scumtells exist if scum dont do them? This is the only time Rayn is interacting with someone without attacking them. He never attacks WoC or implies he's scum. On the other side, WoC is very ambigous about Rayn. CC never explains his stance on Rayn. WoS writes this after MA asks for their read on CC: On April 14 2013 13:18 WaveOfCheesecake wrote: Feasible explanation of the Hapa business. CC isn't here and we actually haven't discussed Rayn at all, though I can tell you that RaynMaster is not on CC's list of townreads. On April 14 2013 13:53 WaveOfCheesecake wrote: A cursory read through Rayn's filter shows that Oats finds Mocsta scummy; since I have come to the same conclusions I'd be interested in discussing this with him. I personally don't find RM(hydra) scummy in the slightest. Any other reads from him atm would be nice too. + Show Spoiler + Hell while I'm posting a whole bunch of old reads just to appease the masses, why not my read on DP/Palmar? Palmar I have very little insight into, but (barring the very beginning of The Game) I'm pretty sure I can tell when DP is town, and so far he hasn't given me very much to work with. I am not a huge fan of the 'confirmed town' status though I admit it makes sense to me and I expressed my feelings as such to CC. I think this game is going to be a very good indication as to whether or not my meta reads have improved at all, despite it being a Hydra game. John Matrix, finished reading the thread yet? I'm interested to see where FnB, MA, and I fall on your red/green scale. Add to this how WoC intercepted the discussion between MA and Rayn: On April 14 2013 01:13 WaveOfCheesecake wrote: Can you explain this, MA? You FoS Hapa because he has scum motivation for buddying me etc etc and is kinda scummy whatever. Then you call him town? Rayn: That's Mocsta for you. He is pretty much picking up the case of Rayn and leads it on, while being all friendly to Rayn in the last sentence. Also note that this post came at a time when MA started to question rayn over and over. It looks like WoC was trying to shift away pressure from rayn, and change the topic. All the interactions feel like scum trying to cover each other. CC kept a backdoor open to vote rayn if it was needed, and they promptly bussed rayn when the wagon started rolling. Adding in the points that MA brought up on WoC, I feel that WoC has a high chance of flipping scum. -pha | ||
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VIVAX420
556 Posts
good post and the association looks pretty fishy. | ||
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WaveOfCheesecake
109 Posts
On April 15 2013 23:15 FondleMyButtocks wrote: + Show Spoiler + On April 15 2013 07:54 InsertSmurfHere wrote: Precisely. So let's talk about it before mafia shoots one of us. IGNORING NSB (since I hate talking about unreadables) Which of Mock/WoC are mafia? Syllo/Sand saying they didn't want to lynch WoC is highly suspect. I looked through rayns filter and noticed the following: Raynmaster attacked JM, SGB, SLJ, MA and 5T repeatedly. On the other side he completely ignored ISH and mostly ignored NSB, us and Vivax420. There is on Hydra that was different: This is the only time Rayn is interacting with someone without attacking them. He never attacks WoC or implies he's scum. On the other side, WoC is very ambigous about Rayn. CC never explains his stance on Rayn. WoS writes this after MA asks for their read on CC: Add to this how WoC intercepted the discussion between MA and Rayn: He is pretty much picking up the case of Rayn and leads it on, while being all friendly to Rayn in the last sentence. Also note that this post came at a time when MA started to question rayn over and over. It looks like WoC was trying to shift away pressure from rayn, and change the topic. All the interactions feel like scum trying to cover each other. CC kept a backdoor open to vote rayn if it was needed, and they promptly bussed rayn when the wagon started rolling. Adding in the points that MA brought up on WoC, I feel that WoC has a high chance of flipping scum. -pha Nothing but WIFOM, my dear friend. It's very possible Rayn was just going with my case (that mostly everyone else has called terrible; I'm more than willing to still accept that my meta reads are bad but it shouldn't preclude me from trying to improve myself) because he thought he could help it along to a MA mislynch. If anything to me that's more evidence for MA being town than for me being scum, but whatever. As far as me acting friendly to him, I've explained numerous times that I thought Rayn was town; I was wrong. Once again, very simple. Now I'm actually going to be around a little bit right now so can we discuss who we might find the 3rd scum to be? Syllo does seem extremely guilty right now as despite everyone throwing at him that the best thing he could do if he were town is to help us out, he still hasn't done so. I'm pretty comfortable with that nuke landing later. CC and I still haven't talked a great deal (this might change tomorrow? He says he has Tuesday off) but from the QT his reads show that he's not sure of FMB, and NSB. I'll look into these two myself right now. Also if there's anything specific people would like to grill out of me now might be the time. | ||
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