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On April 13 2013 20:50 VIVAX420 wrote:
I disagreed with kush on the mod thing confirming JM as town initially. But I've also thought a little about it and came to the conclusion that a host wouldn't show so obviously that it was a fakeclaim, if the launcher was mafia.
It's very hypothetical but I can also see where he comes from with that explanation.
My explanation to hapa when we were talking about it:
"here is why: if a scum says shit in thread host assumes its a plan/trap/whatever if host confirms it as fake they know it is a joke because it comes from a townie"
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On April 13 2013 20:54 FondleMyButtocks wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2013 20:50 VIVAX420 wrote:
I disagreed with kush on the mod thing confirming JM as town initially. But I've also thought a little about it and came to the conclusion that a host wouldn't show so obviously that it was a fakeclaim, if the launcher was mafia.
It's very hypothetical but I can also see where he comes from with that explanation. My explanation to hapa when we were talking about it: "here is why: if a scum says shit in thread host assumes its a plan/trap/whatever if host confirms it as fake they know it is a joke because it comes from a townie"
err...herp derp to Phagga not Hapa.
flooooooooood control. fuck. I'll filter this in later
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On April 13 2013 20:55 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2013 20:54 FondleMyButtocks wrote:On April 13 2013 20:50 VIVAX420 wrote:
I disagreed with kush on the mod thing confirming JM as town initially. But I've also thought a little about it and came to the conclusion that a host wouldn't show so obviously that it was a fakeclaim, if the launcher was mafia.
It's very hypothetical but I can also see where he comes from with that explanation. My explanation to hapa when we were talking about it: "here is why: if a scum says shit in thread host assumes its a plan/trap/whatever if host confirms it as fake they know it is a joke because it comes from a townie" err...herp derp to Phagga not Hapa. flooooooooood control. fuck. I'll filter this in later
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On April 13 2013 20:54 FondleMyButtocks wrote:My explanation to hapa when we were talking about it:
"here is why: if a scum says shit in thread host assumes its a plan/trap/whatever if host confirms it as fake they know it is a joke because it comes from a townie"
I really don't get this line of thinking whatsoever. You'd need to do a 'host meta' argument if you really want to start making this case and explain why artanis would or wouldn't do that. I also don't see why in thisi game where nukes are relevent that a host wouldn't try to inform as to actual and fake nukes alignment regardless.
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Yamato I assume?
basically what Dan did as a host is pretty unacceptable.His joking around with someone's fake nuke gives us mod confirmed information on it. Its like in lviii when VE was told not to rage by Kurumi, you know the host knows that the player is really raging because the player is town or, in this case, the player is joking because they are town.
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Prom I think there is a hole in your plan. According to the OP nukes can be lauched via PM to the host, so there is no need for a Mafia Duke Nukem to claim having a nuke.
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<-- not yamato I would think that our rhetoric was rather different but apparently not.
I'm not getting your reasoing for why that makes him mod confirmed town. Because he made a joke of saying "Not an actual nuke" that makes him town.
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My main man Phagga thinks that MockArmour looks scummiest but if he wants to he can make the case. I'm not seeing it yet though, for traditions sake, I almost want to case up GK.
I'd like to focus on our friends Oats and Vivax (and their partners)
The Oats/Ray thing is obvious they were here, they said nothing, they left. Its 9pm for oats right now, he is usually super active around now (though he isn't on skype so I guess he is straight up not online) and they do have three more hours left from
On April 13 2013 14:10 raynmaster wrote:
Not enough nukes.
see ya in like 10 more hours.
but as for now I have them on the scummy side
Kushix
On April 13 2013 08:40 VIVAX420 wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote MockArmor
Almost forgot that the guy found joining the pre-game banter funny but when the game started he didn't feel that much like joking. Must be discussing stuff elsewhere!
the soft calling of someone as scum through the idea of 'posting somewhere else' of course they are posting somewhere else. I got a qt in my role pm. You got a qt too. We all did, its a hydra game! Stupid way to phrase this, it feels like over justification.
His filter has a lot of posts talking about the VE?Yam?Hapa event like this one
On April 13 2013 09:32 VIVAX420 wrote:
Shotgun, VE being openly lazy and careless doesn't make him scum, I have to say that keeping to push that as only reason for thinking he's scum doesn't look good, why don't you inquire further if you have a suspicion instead of defending your argument?
but none of them provide a read on any of the three of them. A lot of looking like he is contributing. No actual contribution.
even this, supposed to be 420's concise thoughts
On April 13 2013 10:11 VIVAX420 wrote:
The Capslock thing was Kush
I don't see how the stuff i wrote was "pointless and summarizing", my opinion is very clear in those posts. Summarizing means there's no interpretation in what you write, just recaps, but there's enough interpretation in my posts.
Your and yamato's arguments: Not good.
Your arguments against VE: Bad, not scummy.
Yamato's actions: Possibly scum motivated. But I'll wait for more and especially for the non-posters to post.
only gives us null, null, null and null. He won't commit. Because he is scum.
also this:
On April 13 2013 10:26 VIVAX420 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2013 10:24 ShotgunBiceps wrote:On April 13 2013 10:21 VIVAX420 wrote:On April 13 2013 10:16 Hapahauli wrote:
Well I beat you to Kush (pretty sure vivax hasn't posted yet). He felt very uninvolved in the conversation and posting out of obligation rather than anything.
Are you reading this game wtf.... obviously we have both talked and there are huge differences between how we talk. -kush Yeah I wasn't reading very carefully whilst responding to like 4 people at once. Anyway yes you're both on, however that does reveal how little you've posted thusfar. All I see in your filter read-wise is calling VE a drama whore and soft-pushing suspicion on Yamato.  -Vivax
is the single worst reason for a town read Hapa. really?
Kush even gives us a lynchable list
On April 13 2013 20:41 VIVAX420 wrote:
I agree with having everyone nuke themselves.
Kind of exploiting game mechanics but it is a very pro town idea.
JM is confirmed town like 95%. It worries me that VE can't see this and even wants to vote him for it. I've never seen a scum VE before but I am very worried about that hydra.
So I wan't to lynch into these guys
Fivetouch (maybe)
MockArmor (Goodkarma/Mocsta)
Came in the thread, not talking about any of the important stuff. Happy to remain behind the scenes.
FondleMyButtocks (Promethelax/phagga)
joking then lurking
Raynmaster (Oatsmaster/Raynpelikoneet)
no content so far
WaveofCheesecake (WaveOfShadow + Mr.Cheesecake)
joking then lurking pretty heavily. He has tried to contribute since then but nothing he has said inspires a town read.
NeutralSrvivngBalrog (Drazerk/Strongandbig)
total lurker
-kush
6/10 of the game that isn't 420 and none of them for explicable reasons. That is one hell of a scummy list. A lot of places to leave a vote and nice and big enough to include a scum buddy or two without getting the buddy lynched.
for the moment we'll be ##Vote: VIVAX420
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On April 13 2013 21:14 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
Prom I think there is a hole in your plan. According to the OP nukes can be lauched via PM to the host, so there is no need for a Mafia Duke Nukem to claim having a nuke.
dude, I think I might be palmar. Fuck. Scrap that plan then.
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He won't commit because he's scum
Interesting, do you think I'm not committed? If I suddenly called yamato town at that point, or Raynmaster, do you think that you wouldn't remind me of what I said earlier about them? I am committed with all judgements I gave out, I'm just not sitting in a tunnel against someone, which is what you're accusing me of not doing.
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On April 13 2013 20:48 John Matrix wrote:
What marv asked, that's really strange.
Also gj marv, I was about to yell at VE for being bad/scum.
I ask because I'd like to know if he had his own thoughts on it and why, or if he was just piggybacking people.
~marv
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That case looks kinda forced mate, you also look squeaky and scared in the post where you justified yourself for being at work.
Other stuff about you:
Nuke policy talk
A post about Dan's hosting being unacceptable
This pretty bad case
Here, I'll commit.
##Unvote
##Vote FondleMyButtocks
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I was asleep but my young lady's alarm woke me up at the perfect time.
Your omgus is cute. But still terrible. y so scum?
back to sleep!
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omgus is a pretty lazy argument, it's like a little kid screaming "I did it first"
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mechanics post
whose idea is it to claim nukes? this is dumb because scum won't claim and they will wait until the defense guy is dead.
everyone nuking themselves is a good idea that no one has talked about yet for some reason. The only issue with it is that it won't work if scum can undo their in thread nuke with a pm to the host.
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Today I will try to get scumreads and narrow down who I want to lynch. Vivax and I don't agree on anything though, lol.
kush
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Can you answer my question please kush?
~marv
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because.mod wouldnt do that if he was scum. it could be some scum plan or something. dandel would be way more careful about not wanting to reveal anything.
I don't know why you expect me to have an original thought about something so straightforward.
I thought he was conf town as soon as dandel did it and that hydra said lol I'm conf town now.
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psa fucking use your hydra not your normal account. I don't care about flood control...your desire to spam up the thread does not supercede game rules. Also using your normal account,.you are hiding from the filter.
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