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ShotgunBiceps
171 Posts
On April 13 2013 11:13 FiveTouch wrote: Repeatedly referring to one's self as "confirmed town" without saying how or why, using it to strengthen his position, is not eyebrow-raising to you Hapa? It's Palmar. His early Day 1 mentality is to do random provocative stuff like that. | ||
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VIVAX420
556 Posts
You give long explanations as to why you did what you did, I don't know if you're defensive by nature, but to me, some simple "Yeah I was tunneled, yeah it was a bad point" would look townier than what you did: trying so hard to justify something that might happen to a townie. | ||
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VIVAX420
556 Posts
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
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ShotgunBiceps
171 Posts
On April 13 2013 11:16 VIVAX420 wrote: You give me the same impression of yamato neglecting his defense of VE, scared of admitting mistakes. You give long explanations as to why you did what you did, I don't know if you're defensive by nature, but to me, some simple "Yeah I was tunneled, yeah it was a bad point" would look townier than what you did: trying so hard to justify something that might happen to a townie. Who me? I think I've been pretty clear that I made a mistake *shrug* As far as "trying so hard to justify myself" - that's in the nature of defending one's self. VE's asking, and therefore I try and justify it. I wouldn't bother with any of this if people weren't suspicious of me for it. | ||
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ShotgunBiceps
171 Posts
On April 13 2013 11:18 FiveTouch wrote: Like I just don't get it. 1)Why are you so willing to invent a narrative that explains MY actions from a scum perspective but you're unwilling to make a read on anyone else. Huhwhat? What do you mean unwilling? I've been pretty darn open with my reads thusfar. Hell we're on hour 2 of this game, I can't exactly go and make a read on everrrrrryone. I'd like to think I've done quite a bit in the "read-sharing" thing, even if my read on you wasn't as justified as it should have been. | ||
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VIVAX420
556 Posts
On April 13 2013 11:19 ShotgunBiceps wrote: Who me? I think I've been pretty clear that I made a mistake *shrug* As far as "trying so hard to justify myself" - that's in the nature of defending one's self. VE's asking, and therefore I try and justify it. I wouldn't bother with any of this if people weren't suspicious of me for it. Your first interest, if you're town, should be finding scummy stuff, not trying hard to keep a good image. I don't want you to not defend yourself, but all I've seen from you so far is that VE stuff, your defense, and some quick-to-damn shit-shoveling at my posts, and yet you don't appear interested in finding out my motives. | ||
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ShotgunBiceps
171 Posts
On April 13 2013 11:22 VIVAX420 wrote: + Show Spoiler + On April 13 2013 11:19 ShotgunBiceps wrote: Who me? I think I've been pretty clear that I made a mistake *shrug* As far as "trying so hard to justify myself" - that's in the nature of defending one's self. VE's asking, and therefore I try and justify it. I wouldn't bother with any of this if people weren't suspicious of me for it. Your first interest, if you're town, should be finding scummy stuff, not trying hard to keep a good image. I don't want you to not defend yourself, but all I've seen from you so far is that VE stuff, your defense, and some quick-to-damn shit-shoveling at my posts, and yet you don't appear interested in finding out my motives. Well ever since your "middle-finger" post, I've lost interest in you. And let's be real - I've done more than any person in this game, so don't give me the whole "all I've seen from you" thing. | ||
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VIVAX420
556 Posts
On April 13 2013 11:24 ShotgunBiceps wrote: Well ever since your "middle-finger" post, I've lost interest in you. And let's be real - I've done more than any person in this game, so don't give me the whole "all I've seen from you" thing. You deserved that middle finger. First you called my posts summarizing, then I argued why they weren't, then you ignored it and put something else on top. I know when I'm arguing against people who don't want to listen, for whatever reason. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
Ugh, maybe you're right Hapa, time may be what's needed here. Like everything you're saying looks worse and worse to me, and that signals bias to me. I'll be back tomorrow with (hopefully) a new perspective. | ||
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ShotgunBiceps
171 Posts
On April 13 2013 11:26 VIVAX420 wrote: + Show Spoiler + On April 13 2013 11:24 ShotgunBiceps wrote: Well ever since your "middle-finger" post, I've lost interest in you. And let's be real - I've done more than any person in this game, so don't give me the whole "all I've seen from you" thing. You deserved that middle finger. First you called my posts summarizing, then I argued why they weren't, then you ignored it and put something else on top. I know when I'm arguing against people who don't want to listen, for whatever reason. Oh I missed a part of that explanation. Point is I thought the middle-finger thing was genuine and townie hence I'm not interested in you right now. | ||
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ShotgunBiceps
171 Posts
On April 13 2013 11:27 FiveTouch wrote: Oh GOD contribution bloating too? Tunnel VE = doing more than everyone else. That's more dismissive of what's been happening in the thread than ANYTHING I've said in this game to date. Say what you want about the content, but I think it's pretty clear that I care about finding scum. I mean I have 60 posts (including the Hapa-filter) in 2 hours. Ugh, maybe you're right Hapa, time may be what's needed here. Like everything you're saying looks worse and worse to me, and that signals bias to me. I'll be back tomorrow with (hopefully) a new perspective. Alrighty well gnite. | ||
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ShotgunBiceps
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InsertSmurfHere
288 Posts
On April 13 2013 11:32 ShotgunBiceps wrote: Yamato you around? I'm here. 'Sup? | ||
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geript
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ShotgunBiceps
171 Posts
I'm just going to get to Yamato's case and post some thoughts before I retire for tonight | ||
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WaveOfCheesecake
109 Posts
On April 13 2013 11:04 ShotgunBiceps wrote: Why no hate for CC? Because that post was made me giggle uncontrollably. His play so far also has a very different tone from his scum-games. His light-heartedness seems to indicate town. As for Palmar, that's kinda what he does. I didn't go after him for it for three reasons: 1) It's non-alignment indicative of Palmar 2) Palmar's alignment is usually fairly obvious on Day 1 based on his interest level. 3) I got caught up in 4 conversations at the time. Also keep in mind that the posts of CC and Palmar are not negative or detracting of discussion. They're just troll-posts. You're making the case that yours was as well, but we've gone over that already. What's bad about going after one player? Tunneling is the nature of the business. I'd like to think I've made why I went after your post as opposed to others pretty clear just now. I'd just like to state for the record, that all of the posts up until now have been Wave. lol. Reading up. - CC | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
So yeah, dont know when I can make a post; because I havnt seen role PM. | ||
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ShotgunBiceps
171 Posts
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ShotgunBiceps
171 Posts
Regarding Yamato's Case Bascically three points: 1) I buddied him 2) I'm "trying too hard" to buddy him 3) BS case on VE In order... 1) Buddying is a mischaracterization of my goals. I just tried to strike up a conversation with the first person I saw in the thread, which happened to be the geript-half of the hydra. Secondly, the logic of "buddying the hydra" doesn't really hold, since you are both separate entities. Me getting on good terms with geript does nothing to influence your opinion or view of me. And with all respect to geript, there are plenty of better players to buddy in this game if I were scum :3 2) As far as me "trying really hard" - it's silly early Day 1 talk. Though the read on gerpit at the time was genuine, since he seemed to be taking certain posts more seriously than they were intended, and seemed very earnest in doing so. Case in point: On April 13 2013 08:03 InsertSmurfHere wrote: That was a quick pronouncement... Why you think that? Why you reading them differently when they're one head? 3) The whole "case on VE" thing has been beaten to death. The basic point is that I thought VE was scummy at the time. As far as "hapa can't be this bad", I kinda do this all the time as town. If you don't believe me, DP and Prome can attest to my early Day 1 tunnels. | ||
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