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On April 04 2013 09:45 WaveofShadow wrote: /in on the off the chance this actually starts in the next 2 weeks or so. looks like it did | ||
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On April 05 2013 03:42 Dandel Ion wrote: Yes. Did I yet mention he's also not self-aware? Yeah you did | ||
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On April 05 2013 04:39 Dandel Ion wrote: He will have a town-aligned target that he needs to get lynched in order to win. so he loses if the guy is night killed? can the lynch target be a lightning rod? | ||
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On April 05 2013 09:55 AxleGreaser wrote: In my reality, I am Still pregame... + Show Spoiler [LOL] + On April 05 2013 04:35 WaveofShadow wrote: Whass mean 3rd party 'lyncher?' Neva hoid of it. Google is your friend, well he is my friend. Also i might suggest that the existence of some aspects of this setup mean that doing whatever it is you normally do when night one ends... (that is if you are lucky/good/bad enough to still be alive...) may no longer be the wisest course of action. I would suggest that as Dandel presumably knows the set-up... his advice of "Please consult your brain if you want advice on playing the game." may be the best you're going to get. Even if some people 'soft claim' it is not that useful in their case. On April 05 2013 08:41 iamperfection wrote: im trying a new style by the way just going to throw that out there and ill be gone for a few hours before we start. hey that was my schtick.... get yer own... damn you Iamp. Axle: hey Skip stop fetching meta, Skip: Woofity Woof woof woff. Axle: Oh what!! you've been chasing rabbits... bad dog. Axle: I suppose that is fair enough though I was counting sheep. Axle: Skip; Fetch me a new Schtick Skip: Woof! Skip: schtick + Show Spoiler + see next post, schtick starts there. "don't mind me, i don't have an alignment" spoilered useless advice annoyance at iamperfection for being first to use an excuse to make reads on him harder ##Vote AxleGreaser | ||
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palmar's gonna get it wrong because he's always wrong about me | ||
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On April 05 2013 10:15 iamperfection wrote: what does that have to do with anything has to do with the argument the lynch-super-scum-ace-argument that palmar and marv are having. | ||
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On April 05 2013 10:18 iamperfection wrote: how about the argument that ace bothered to show that he was here but didn't do anything of use therefore he is scummy argument? while neither is any good, yours is probably the better. | ||
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On April 05 2013 10:24 Palmar wrote: I distinctly remember hard defending a few times (steamship?) when you were town. But that was before you stopped trying on day 1. "HEY I GOT YOU RIGHT THAT ONE TIME TWO YEARS AGO" | ||
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On April 05 2013 10:52 Palmar wrote: well soon after that you became too cool to actually do anything on the only day of mafia I'm actually decent at, so what the fuck do you expect? you really think i'm cool? cool | ||
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On April 05 2013 11:37 iamperfection wrote: so would you rather i sit here with my thumb up my ass. i don't know when an alternative suddenly had to include you having part of your hand up your rectum | ||
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On April 05 2013 11:39 DarthPunk wrote: LOL. Such a spammy game already. I am here but I don't have any reads yet. Carry on. you don't have any reads or you didn't read the game yet? | ||
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On April 05 2013 11:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: okay kill WoS and iamp ok? no mention of the guy you are currently voting for? | ||
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On April 05 2013 11:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: He is voting for Ace because if Ace is scum he is scary... Does it make him scum? What more do you need?? isn't marv doing the exact same thing? | ||
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busy might post more later. palmar and marv both on this one so it's probably good. skimmed tunkeg's case and it looked alright though i didn't really get all of it. | ||
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WoS is apparently being unvoted because he did something when he was about to get lynched, alright. btw, i think the claim he was referring to was his claim in the beginning of the game, when he claimed town. | ||
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On April 07 2013 10:20 Ace wrote: I don't want to misunderstand here. Are you surprised that WoS didn't get lynched? well if i think about it i'm a little surprised. i didn't think so before considering it now that you just asked me though. | ||
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On April 07 2013 10:18 Ace wrote: @prp what don't you understand? I think my thought process this game is easy to follow but I'll clear anything up you have questions about. i don't see why WoS "lying" about having claimed makes him in any way scum and you seem like you want marv to vote him for just that in this and this post. | ||
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On April 07 2013 11:12 WaveofShadow wrote: Prlphz: who do you find scummy right now and why? internally debating whether i should answer that i don't really have any scum reads or just ignore the question. On April 07 2013 11:07 prplhz wrote: i don't see why WoS "lying" about having claimed makes him in any way scum and you seem like you want marv to vote him for just that in this and this post. and at the same time it looks like you also know that WoS is lying here but that doesn't move you to vote him. i still don't see why WoS lying about that would make him scum and like i already pointed out, i don't think he was lying. meh | ||
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On April 07 2013 09:11 Ace wrote: I don't know, maybe I'm not good at explaining my thoughts here. I completely understand he made no claim. He said he did. Which is why I asked right after for him to point it out to me. Does this part make sense? can you please explain why this is in any way interesting | ||
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i just don't understand why this claim thing is in any way interesting to you and it must be because you've spent a great deal of time with it. | ||
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On April 08 2013 02:54 Ace wrote: I posted this yesterday to explain my requested roleclaim of WoS. I don't see what's uninteresting about this, or why you just pulled this one post out of no where. Where are you going with this? here's the timeline the way i see it: WoS does his silly town claim huh WoS says he's already claimed muh you ask WoS where it is bah marv said that he never claimed you attack marv for not voting for WoS even though marv should know that WoS is a liar oof you never vote WoS despite saying that marv should vote WoS because marv thinks that WoS is a liar (i still don't see how the lie has anything to do with his alignment). at the same time it's pretty clear that you also know that WoS is lying meh. i don't understand why this whole claim thing is interesting, i already pointed out that he was talking about his town claim and nobody else thought he had actually claimed (people would of course have noticed if he had). can you explain to me why it is interesting because i can't really explain why it's uninteresting, i just simply don't see how this will help us deduce any alignment at all that some dude posted an offhand remark about something he said earlier. i don't see why you think i'm pulling this out of nowhere since i complained about it yesterday after you told me to ask you questions if i didn't understand your play and you never answered my question. the place i am going with this is the place where you answer me why this is in any way interesting, what were you hoping to get out of this? it seems to me from you "shhhh" post that there was some sort of semisecret plan here so maybe tell me about that. | ||
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On April 08 2013 03:17 Ace wrote: I didn't vote WoS yet only because I was waiting on him to come in and explain himself after the "where is the claim I can't find it?" post. I don't know if you read my last response with WoS but it's all cleared up on that end. WoS didn't understand what I was asking and I didn't understand what he meant by stating he already claimed. The marv part was me seeing marv following the same thought process I was and not seeing the potential WoS lie. Unlike WoS who I had a misunderstanding with, marv says WoS didn't claim. If he didn't claim, but he stated he did claim then there is a lie there. Marv somehow missed that. Since marv claims to be a good player I don't see how he could have missed that. Does this make sense now? and yes the shhhh post was me hoping iamp didn't spoil a potential trap  But we've already moved past the claim thing. The issue is resolved. how did we move past it? aren't we discussing it now or something? can you be past something that you're discussing right now? you just attacked marv for not voting WoS while he thought that WoS was lying and at the very moment you are not voting WoS even though you obviously think that WoS was lying that's just complete bullshit you knew WoS had not claimed because your entire trap relies on the fact that he had not claimed. also, if you don't want someone to ruin your trap you probably shouldn't quote a post and write "SSHHH ABOUT THAT IT'S A BIG SECRET". it all seems really phony and completely useless. nobody should be voting WoS anyway for a "lie" like that, that doesn't show in any way that WoS is scum. either he was kidding around or he thought he had claimed (or like it really was, he had claimed but people failed to notice it) but none of those scenarios point at him being scum. | ||
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On April 07 2013 05:11 Ace wrote: I've been busy WoS. I actually don't think you should be lynched at the moment, as I think Oats is a far bigger distraction. Marv is just talking nonsense as always. WoS since you're at L-2 right now don't hesitate to claim when the next person votes.I'm not gonna hammer you unless that situation resolves itself. For now tho: ##vote: Oatsmaster what you mean by that? marv wins a lot of his town games and usually has great reads, i think you're the only one in this game who thinks that marv is just talking nonsense, and surely the only one who think that that's what he always does. | ||
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On April 08 2013 03:51 Oatsmaster wrote: no one took notice of my initial post on axle and some people actually had town reads on axle so i asked what was up. later, i didn't have a lot of time so i skimmed the biggest case and decided it was alright.Hey Prp, Asking you about your past Why did you post this, sleep or something then and never talk about Axle again? You have no scumreads but your vote is on WoS? Am I misunderstanding something? Also the claim was just from a weird perspective by WoS, drop it please. Also any reads? Other than WoS who I assume is still your scumread. Also this(your filter) looks very different from Nomination and Red Team. keyword is "really", i'm not very confident in anything. yes my vote is on WoS he could be scum. it still is because i didn't even consider removing it, he's not in immediate danger and he could be scum. can't really comment on the meta thing, guess that's your opinion or whatever. i'm pretty sure i was under a lot of heavy fire d1 in red team for being a lurker too so i can't really relate to what you're saying about how this isn't looking like red team. other people are obviously seeing the same thing in both filters. | ||
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On April 08 2013 04:15 marvellosity wrote: Can you tell me why you were askign the thread about Axle when you've played and shared a QT with him? I don't get this. i didn't remember him. can you accept this explanation or do you want me to go into my filter and find another town game where i forgot someone i had hosted a game for? because, as you might suspect by now, i can easily do that but of course it's going to be tedious so i don't want to if you can just wholly accept that explanation. if i was scum, was it that game of BH's where i was scum and i was lynched on d1 for only writing 4 posts? because that should make it even more believable that i wasn't paying much attention. | ||
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On April 08 2013 04:16 Palmar wrote: I also want this to help me decide. But whatever. When in doubt go with my original gut read. ##vote sciberbia don't you know that you're almost always wrong on your initial d1 read? | ||
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dp, scib, iamp on axle marv, wos, oats, palm on ace | ||
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he seriously thinks that, when it comes to a claim, WoS is banking on not a single one of the many town players in this game will gloss over his filter and fact check it. i just cannot wrap my head around that line of thought. a lie in itself doesn't mean anything though, ace never explains why on earth scum would lie about this. "because he knows they will not catch him" is simply not a reason to lie. technically, all fits. ace could have seen it as a lie and then he could lynch him because townies don't lie. but that's the laziest excuse i have seen in as long as i can remember and ace isn't even recanting or anything, he's dead serious about it. i simply don't get it. | ||
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On April 08 2013 08:38 Palmar wrote: to clarify, by good I mean less bad than he used to. and since I have no clue who is scum whatever. I just want to lynch someone and I don't want it to be axle. Sciberbia, Ace, prplhz, reyn, WoS, marv are all fine by me. why not axle? you said earlier that you had no idea about his chezinuish posting and someone else would have to figure him out, but ever since you've been town on him? | ||
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On April 08 2013 08:38 Palmar wrote: to clarify, by good I mean less bad than he used to. and since I have no clue who is scum whatever. I just want to lynch someone and I don't want it to be axle. Sciberbia, Ace, prplhz, reyn, WoS, marv are all fine by me. are you leaning scum on me or do you just want to get rid of me? | ||
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On April 08 2013 09:00 iamperfection wrote: this may be the most retarded thing posted in the history of tl mafia is that a no? | ||
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On April 08 2013 09:02 Palmar wrote: whatever we can deal with Ace later, this is just day 1, not as if the game is fucked if we mislynch prplhz and marv and wos, please just hammer this so I can go to sleep. you're asking half your list to remove their votes from your list and consolidate outside of your list | ||
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On April 08 2013 10:04 iamperfection wrote: why should the medic hold that seems stupid wow you've been pissed off for hours now | ||
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On April 08 2013 10:08 Ace wrote: when are you going to stop tunneling me? I've answered all your questions and you still see whatever you want to see when did i ever tunnel you? i'm not used to self pity from you this is really weird. | ||
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On April 08 2013 11:45 Ace wrote: normally I'd laugh but knowing the kinds of WIFOM and meta games people around here like to play not surprised if it fools you then why not go for it | ||
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On April 08 2013 11:54 Ace wrote: you're right. He could definitely fool me with that play, but what about everyone else? well i, for one, am way too dumb to be fooled | ||
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why is town palmar pretending? | ||
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##Vote marv no wait a second, he already flipped town lol | ||
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iamp why aren't you voting ace? | ||
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i think i'm going to ask him what he thinks. hey prplhz, how do you feel about the way ace answered your questions? | ||
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On April 09 2013 10:18 prplhz wrote: okay i need to prove that some guy thinks that you didn't answer his questions in a satisfying degree. i think i'm going to ask him what he thinks. hey prplhz, how do you feel about the way ace answered your questions? not satisfactory | ||
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thanks man there's your proof. now why on earth do you want me to prove this? this isn't a hard question. | ||
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On April 10 2013 09:29 iamperfection wrote: prplhz why should we not kill you? This is a serious question. is this a serious question? | ||
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On April 10 2013 11:23 sciberbia wrote: prplhz you still around? I have some questions for you. hey | ||
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2 nobody reacted to my observation on axle but people voted all sorts of other things, i wanted to hear why everybody was actively ignoring axle. later, i was referring to this post axle town read 3 ace and axle my biggest scum reads at the time with a trailing wos. axle since the beginning of the game and his filter since then just seemed like he was really disconnected with the game and he didn't care about lynch or anything at all. seemed like he was perfectly happy being the weird kid that everybody was ignoring. ace because of his weird trap thing that made absolutely no sense and still doesn't make any sense. palmar has it right that ace sometimes do these things but i also know that ace can find scum on day1 in a rather spectacular fashion if he just puts his mind to it but he didn't do anything at all. yes, i could have put my vote on ace but i put it on axle. | ||
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if i said that to oats then i might have been mixing stuff together and thinking that later explicit town reads on axle came before that particular post where i asked why axle is town. i wasn't correct if i said that to oats "can anybody tell me why axle is town?" wasn't at all aimed at somebody particular and didn't require any town reads on axle, explicit or otherwise. it was simply to get people to focus on axle more because he had been pretty much ignored by everybody up until then. i might as well just have said "hey, how does people feel about the stuff i said about axle?" | ||
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On April 11 2013 00:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: What has Palmar done other than sheeped marv? well just to mention one thing (which disproves you "nothing" hypothesis), he voted for and pushed axle when him and marv were on ace and marv was pushing ace hard. | ||
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@iamp are you the vig? dp seemed to think so. | ||
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you? hardly | ||
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dp because he spearheaded axle lynch iamp because he shot tunkeg WoS because then he would have been pushed by his two scumbuddies who had no reason to do this. it's very unlikely and i'm going to follow marv's advice not to consider crazy conspiracy theories so it's rayn, palmar, oats rayn's early game looks quite different from red prize where i think he was a lot more composed. it would be a crazy gamble do suddenly go with this hugely spammy style in this game. his style doesn't feel feigned at all though and he gives reads all over the place. i also think he's put in a good deal of effort. so it's palmar or oats. i don't actually care much who we lynch of these two guys. i didn't read oats because marv said he was town but i should really reevaluate since a lot of thing happened since marv said that. so yea. palmar's performance has been lacklustre but meh, people have bad games. i think the most useful information comes around the axle vote switch. i initially thought he played a bigger part in it but rereading it looks worse. rayn is right that both him and me showed signs that we were most likely to vote axle right before palmar vote change. oats already pointed this out but palmar changed his opinion on axle very fast. from here it looks the worst. palmar says that he doesn't want to lynch axle twice in two minutes. then rayn makes a big post about how he doesn't like marv's notes on axle being town and i make a post where i start changing my focus from ace to axle. suddenly palmar changed his vote. the way i remembered it was that palmar helped the lynch much more earlier on but rereading it looks like he's just reacting to how the thread is turning rapidly against a lurker. palmar's first big analysis post also looks off to me. he is clearly favoring both tunkeg and axle more than he should. tunkeg is labeled as a lurker he can't say anything about and ace as someone who hasn't done anything to show his alignment, but for some reason he still says he'd lynch ace over tunkeg. it's the same with axle, he's labeled as a weird chezinuish poster that palmar can't read, but somehow he is leaning town on him? later it's even worse when axle is suddenly quite towny. palmar says that he cannot read axle but yet he keeps pushing the idea that axle is looking towny right up until the point where he is suddenly on three votes with me and rayn changing our opinion. in his vote post palmar again says that he has no idea how to read axle. palmar just doesn't seem like a guy who would repeatedly push the idea that axle is town when he has no idea how to read him. On April 08 2013 08:38 Palmar wrote:[...] I just want to lynch someone and I don't want it to be axle. [...] this here is really weird to me, if he just wants to lynch someone, then why not the person that he cannot read? also after the lynch he makes this post where he obviously has some idea that he needs to reconsider everything and come up with something new. he has no idea how long it will take so obviously it's a big project. yet his next contribution is this post "i actually think oats might be the best lynch today", that post didn't take 2 minutes to come up with and write. doesn't look at all like the big contribution he obviously had in mind when he said he'd reevaluate. palmar also does townie things though, the "lets hammer axle fast i want a flip before i go to bed" thing looked very townie to me (scum obviously don't care about flips) and the hanging around after the lynch anyway to help figure things out. i honestly haven't a clue but i'm 85% sure that palmar is the best idea today. i'll read up on oats and post some more tomorrow. | ||
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##Vote Oatsmaster lets see what happens | ||
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