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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
April 07 2013 19:05 GMT
#961
If no majority is reached by 02:00 GMT (+00:00) (~7 hours from now), we'll end the day in a no-lynch.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 07 2013 19:06 GMT
#962
about axle i guess i moved on for the while. he's not clear at all but his filter is full of weird chezinuish crap and i just don't feel like deciphering that right now.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 07 2013 19:08 GMT
#963
On April 08 2013 03:59 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 03:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hey Prp,
Asking you about your past

Why did you post this,
On April 06 2013 04:49 prplhz wrote:
can anybody tell me why axlegreaser is town

sleep or something
then
On April 07 2013 02:27 prplhz wrote:
##Vote WaveofShadow

busy might post more later. palmar and marv both on this one so it's probably good. skimmed tunkeg's case and it looked alright though i didn't really get all of it.

and never talk about Axle again?
no one took notice of my initial post on axle and some people actually had town reads on axle so i asked what was up. later, i didn't have a lot of time so i skimmed the biggest case and decided it was alright.
Show nested quote +


On April 07 2013 11:39 prplhz wrote:
On April 07 2013 11:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
Prlphz: who do you find scummy right now and why?

internally debating whether i should answer that i don't really have any scum reads or just ignore the question.

On April 07 2013 11:07 prplhz wrote:
On April 07 2013 10:18 Ace wrote:
@prp what don't you understand? I think my thought process this game is easy to follow but I'll clear anything up you have questions about.

i don't see why WoS "lying" about having claimed makes him in any way scum and you seem like you want marv to vote him for just that in this and this post.

and at the same time it looks like you also know that WoS is lying here but that doesn't move you to vote him. i still don't see why WoS lying about that would make him scum and like i already pointed out, i don't think he was lying.

meh

You have no scumreads but your vote is on WoS? Am I misunderstanding something?

Also the claim was just from a weird perspective by WoS, drop it please.


Also any reads? Other than WoS who I assume is still your scumread.

Also this(your filter) looks very different from Nomination and Red Team.

keyword is "really", i'm not very confident in anything. yes my vote is on WoS he could be scum. it still is because i didn't even consider removing it, he's not in immediate danger and he could be scum.

can't really comment on the meta thing, guess that's your opinion or whatever. i'm pretty sure i was under a lot of heavy fire d1 in red team for being a lurker too so i can't really relate to what you're saying about how this isn't looking like red team. other people are obviously seeing the same thing in both filters.


Well you say all this, but you dont look interested in finding scum, you are fine with sitting back and doing jackshit, arguing with Ace about nothing. You have no reads and you DONT CARE ABOUT THAT.

Read on Ace?


(180 from earlier dooods)

No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 07 2013 19:10 GMT
#964
On April 08 2013 03:17 Ace wrote:
I didn't vote WoS yet only because I was waiting on him to come in and explain himself after the "where is the claim I can't find it?" post. I don't know if you read my last response with WoS but it's all cleared up on that end. WoS didn't understand what I was asking and I didn't understand what he meant by stating he already claimed.

The marv part was me seeing marv following the same thought process I was and not seeing the potential WoS lie. Unlike WoS who I had a misunderstanding with, marv says WoS didn't claim. If he didn't claim, but he stated he did claim then there is a lie there. Marv somehow missed that. Since marv claims to be a good player I don't see how he could have missed that. Does this make sense now? and yes the shhhh post was me hoping iamp didn't spoil a potential trap

But we've already moved past the claim thing. The issue is resolved.


Because it's irrelevant. Obviously I didn't miss WoS coming out saying he was town at the beginning, because it was my basis for voting for him, mostly. So what the fuck are you talking about?

Speaking of such things, I'd expect a player who has been playing for several years to remember if they had their vote on somebody or not:

On April 07 2013 08:45 Ace wrote:

I also believe it's possible it really was a genuine reaction. Which is why I unvoted him and asked him that question to confirm my reasoning.

However, where does the sciberbia vote come from? Can you explain that? If you believe that WoS is playing straightforward, then based on the information you have - why isn't sciberbia being afforded the same courtesy? Nothing in his play so far seem out of the ordinary so what stands out to you that warrants a vote?


For reference, in case you forgot, you did not. So you can't unvote him. But that's ok, I shouldn't expect you to remember who you have your vote on, right?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 07 2013 19:11 GMT
#965
I'm not sure I want to lynch prplhz now. He seemed like a decent lynch earlier but I don't like the idea so much after his recent spurt of activity.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 07 2013 19:13 GMT
#966
For what it's worth, I'm able to be up until the deadline that Dandel just set. I'll be kinda around all evening.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 07 2013 19:15 GMT
#967
On April 08 2013 04:06 prplhz wrote:
about axle i guess i moved on for the while. he's not clear at all but his filter is full of weird chezinuish crap and i just don't feel like deciphering that right now.


Can you tell me why you were askign the thread about Axle when you've played and shared a QT with him? I don't get this.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 07 2013 19:16 GMT
#968
On April 08 2013 02:57 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 02:26 Palmar wrote:
@marv. Write me a list of three or four names that are the scumteam. No reasoning needed at all.

Also, write me a list of 5 town reads. Use at least two one sentence to justify your read.


If you can't read me properly by now, I see little reason to dance to your tune.


I also want this to help me decide.

But whatever.

When in doubt go with my original gut read.

##vote sciberbia
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 07 2013 19:17 GMT
#969
On April 08 2013 04:16 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 02:57 marvellosity wrote:
On April 08 2013 02:26 Palmar wrote:
@marv. Write me a list of three or four names that are the scumteam. No reasoning needed at all.

Also, write me a list of 5 town reads. Use at least two one sentence to justify your read.


If you can't read me properly by now, I see little reason to dance to your tune.


I also want this to help me decide.

But whatever.

When in doubt go with my original gut read.

##vote sciberbia


You want details on my townreads to help you decide your lynch? *glares*

If you're gonna vote sciberbia you're going to have to tell me why you still feel his posting in the 2nd half of this game so far keeps him as mafia.

I would lynch Ace with you easy peasy. If you genuinely want to talk about people with me, I'll be home in 20 minutes and we can figure things out, but I'm not sure sciberbia is gonna fly unless you can point towards something that will make it fly.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 07 2013 19:19 GMT
#970
On April 08 2013 04:15 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 04:06 prplhz wrote:
about axle i guess i moved on for the while. he's not clear at all but his filter is full of weird chezinuish crap and i just don't feel like deciphering that right now.


Can you tell me why you were askign the thread about Axle when you've played and shared a QT with him? I don't get this.

i didn't remember him. can you accept this explanation or do you want me to go into my filter and find another town game where i forgot someone i had hosted a game for? because, as you might suspect by now, i can easily do that but of course it's going to be tedious so i don't want to if you can just wholly accept that explanation.

if i was scum, was it that game of BH's where i was scum and i was lynched on d1 for only writing 4 posts? because that should make it even more believable that i wasn't paying much attention.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 07 2013 19:20 GMT
#971
something will fly bro.

Ace is a possibility. How much did you agree with my seperation between townies and scum?
Computer says mafia
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 07 2013 19:23 GMT
#972
On April 08 2013 04:16 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 02:57 marvellosity wrote:
On April 08 2013 02:26 Palmar wrote:
@marv. Write me a list of three or four names that are the scumteam. No reasoning needed at all.

Also, write me a list of 5 town reads. Use at least two one sentence to justify your read.


If you can't read me properly by now, I see little reason to dance to your tune.


I also want this to help me decide.

But whatever.

When in doubt go with my original gut read.

##vote sciberbia

don't you know that you're almost always wrong on your initial d1 read?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
April 07 2013 19:37 GMT
#973
I will give this a final push now that we got a deadline. Lynch fucking WoS!

He haven't even bothered answering my call out to him, and haven't even bothered to make a singular attempt at making one good case on prplhz! He is basicly in the thread doing nothing!!!

Tell me what I can do to convince you guys that he is scum? Because I am certain he is! And frankly I am great at catching scum (no matter what you believe/I am just bad at pushing them). I very rarely have my vote on someone that isn't scum, the only exceptions are when I get agitated at someone and let my anger cloud my judgement. I am in no way angry at WoS, I have read and analysed him with an open mind, I have reevaluated my stance on him (comming to the same conclusion as before), and I am certain, 100 % that he is scum. I know some of you think I am a clown who can't play this fucking game, well, if I am wrong here you can go back to thinking I am just a shit player, but I am not, and you will credit me for this lynch. WoS is my wagon, and my lynch. Now get on it! You will thank me later!
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
April 07 2013 19:40 GMT
#974
So anyone here? Or is everyone content with a no-lynch? Because if you are, I will say fuck it, and go to bed. If not I will stick around abit longer.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 07 2013 19:42 GMT
#975
i'm here
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 07 2013 19:44 GMT
#976
On April 08 2013 04:23 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 04:16 Palmar wrote:
On April 08 2013 02:57 marvellosity wrote:
On April 08 2013 02:26 Palmar wrote:
@marv. Write me a list of three or four names that are the scumteam. No reasoning needed at all.

Also, write me a list of 5 town reads. Use at least two one sentence to justify your read.


If you can't read me properly by now, I see little reason to dance to your tune.


I also want this to help me decide.

But whatever.

When in doubt go with my original gut read.

##vote sciberbia

don't you know that you're almost always wrong on your initial d1 read?


yes I do. But what's the alternative?

I don't think Ace/Marv are scum together. After your recent contributions it's less likely you're scum. I don't think sciberbia is scum with waveofshadow, and reyn has seemed to be perfectly fine lynching both of them.

Sure, bussing is an option. Ace has attacked oats, but I'm also unsure oats is scum.

So one of ace/marv is scum, one of wos/sciberbia is scum, and the last scum can be just about anyone? That's about as much as I can gather from what has happened today.

I really don't know and sciberbia seems somewhat distant and uninterested, I also still put massive question marks to his defense of WoS.

So yes, I'm completely unsure about this one, but it's better than anything else I can think of. My second option would be to almost rng between Ace and Marv.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 07 2013 19:46 GMT
#977
Someone remind me, did sciberbia actually save WoS? as in did he not hammer him when he could have?
Computer says mafia
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
April 07 2013 19:49 GMT
#978
On April 08 2013 04:42 prplhz wrote:
i'm here


You have the vote on the right player. So help me push it!
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
April 07 2013 19:50 GMT
#979
Palmar. Do you prefer a WoS lynch over a no-lynch?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 07 2013 19:50 GMT
#980
On April 08 2013 02:39 Palmar wrote:
I think I'll start eliminating people I think are town and then just lynching into the rest of the players.

DP looks pretty towny
iamperfection looks pretty towny
I really liked Tunkeg's case so I guess I'll say he's town for now
Axle to me looks quite towny
I'm town.

This now leaves a 7 player pool I'm considering trying to lynch.

sciberbia
WoS
Ace
Marv
prplhz
Oats
slotmachinedude

Does anyone think it's unlikely that 2-3 scum are in this list?



yes to iamp, towniest guy in the game
Palmar quite townie, sincere posts
Tunkeg I had to go back and check, but his push on WoS looks good, and also this post caught my eye:

On April 08 2013 04:37 Tunkeg wrote:
I will give this a final push now that we got a deadline. Lynch fucking WoS!

He haven't even bothered answering my call out to him, and haven't even bothered to make a singular attempt at making one good case on prplhz! He is basicly in the thread doing nothing!!!

Tell me what I can do to convince you guys that he is scum? Because I am certain he is! And frankly I am great at catching scum (no matter what you believe/I am just bad at pushing them). I very rarely have my vote on someone that isn't scum, the only exceptions are when I get agitated at someone and let my anger cloud my judgement. I am in no way angry at WoS, I have read and analysed him with an open mind, I have reevaluated my stance on him (comming to the same conclusion as before), and I am certain, 100 % that he is scum. I know some of you think I am a clown who can't play this fucking game, well, if I am wrong here you can go back to thinking I am just a shit player, but I am not, and you will credit me for this lynch. WoS is my wagon, and my lynch. Now get on it! You will thank me later!


Spefically what I've bolded townies usually say. From a personal POV, for obvious reasons I'm usually much more reticent talking myself up when I'm mafia.

DP - iamp doesn't have anything to say about him, you seem to think he's townie having read our tete-a-tete, so let's go with town.

Axle leaning town but I'm not sure at all. what he's posted feels fine, but he screamed townie to me in Noir and I haven't had the same feeling here. He is right though when he said that there are more players and there are weird interactions when experienced players play together. I can understand how it looks weird looking in.

Oats I'm really quite sure is town. Like my top 3 towns are probably iamp/palmar/oats, I think in that order, but 2 and 3 are close. I've seen nothing to make me think he's mafia and I caught him super easily last time he rolled mafia.


This leaves

rayn
prplhz
Ace
WoS
sciberbia

I thought rayn was townie originally for his splurge on the thread, now i'm not so sure because he's disappeared. I don't know where to put him.

prplhz was getting scummier to me as he continud to do nothing until he came in this evening and pursued something actually worth pursuing with Ace. Seems to be putting himself at risk by taking on Ace, dunno why he'd choose Ace of all people if he was mafia.

sciberbia looks better for actively seeking out you and me to try and talk to us about things, rather than just dropping analysis posts and fucking off.

WoS I think is still a good lynch. I'm kinda inclined with the benefit of hindsight to agree with what Tunkeg said about his posts last night. What bugs me is that he made those posts, the votes moved off him, and he didn't feel the need to post again. His push on prplhz reads more as constant sniping at him rather than a sustained push, like Tunkeg is doing for example. And he's sneered at me and my abilities on 2 or 3 occasions this game despite calling himself unsure and insecure.

Ace is pushing bad lynches and bad ideas, and he's not even doing it off his own back. In Paranoia he LED the terrible lynch on me along with wbg his lapdog. And in The Game he LED the terrible lynch on VE. Here he only calls Oats suspicious after sciberbia does; he only gets on my ass after DP does, he votes Oats for being a 'distraction' and genuinely seems to use the argument "if oats is playing like his townself and his townself gets him in trouble, he must be mafia for playing exactly like he does as town because he should change his playstyle". Whatever. In addition the strange obsession with the WoS claim that has no outcome I can see, the fact he says there's no reason to unvote WoS before conceding that his posts felt genuine and that was a reason, he's constantly discrediting you (Palmar) but he's too scared to call you mafia, he just keeps jabbing at you, he's done it several times, and I can't see any reason for him to do this if he's town unless he thinks you're mafia, but he seems too scared to actually make that claim.

So yeah, the last two are who I'm looking at to lynch today.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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