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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 05 2013 17:18 GMT
#381
On April 06 2013 00:41 Tunkeg wrote:
So back from work and ready to play. Damn these games get alot of pages quick.

I have read through the thread once and this is how I see things:

"Lynch Ace" have been the only real discussion in game thus far. Of course we don't lynch Ace from being abit inactive in the start of day one. And while iamp is clearly overdoing his push towards Ace, I feel like he is doing it in a towny way, he is doing it to apply pressure. His case is shit, the pressure will probably be naught to Ace, but I feel his intentions are right. The rest of the votes on Ace are obvious joke votes, except WoS vote, which concerns me abit. He is just sheeping marv and giving a horrible reason for wanting to lynch him. I see more scum motive for the way WoS have handled Ace than what iamp have done.

raynpelikoneet is the one liner king of this game. I hate how he have played all the way up until his last post before leaving (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=13#254). If he hadn't posted that last one, I would have seen his play as scummy.

Besides this there isn't a whole lot to comment on. There is a bunch of players who haven't contributed much (myself included) who need to get in to the game and start playing.






I came to the same conclusions except rayne isnt scummy yet in my book. btw im waiting on a new laptop charger to be delivered . typing on TL thru a ps3 isnt good for this game.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
April 05 2013 17:20 GMT
#382
so we've established everyone is town except sciberbia and WoS?
Computer says mafia
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 05 2013 17:29 GMT
#383
On April 06 2013 02:13 sciberbia wrote:
Any thoughts on what I said about Oats? Agree/disagree with my points? Do you guys think he is scum?

right before i got to your post i felt he was putting words in ppls mouths and seeing things that are not there .
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
April 05 2013 17:30 GMT
#384
On April 06 2013 02:13 sciberbia wrote:
Any thoughts on what I said about Oats? Agree/disagree with my points? Do you guys think he is scum?


On April 06 2013 02:00 sciberbia wrote:
iamperfection
I don't think the suspicion on iamperfection is warranted. I'm leaning town on him based on the attention he drew to himself early in the game.

First of all, he drew attention to himself by consistently pushing Ace as a serious lynch and making a big deal out.

He also confronts various other people like rayn, dp, prplhz, marv
+ Show Spoiler +

On April 05 2013 10:43 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 10:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You are voting for Ace for why? I tried to see it in your filter.. Couldn't.. :E

i was pretty clear on why ace is scummy.

list right now your lack of reading comprehension is concerning but you seem interested at least so ill put you down as stupid town for now.


On April 05 2013 11:37 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 11:36 prplhz wrote:
@iamperfection don't you think you're being a little overzealous here?

so

would you rather i sit here with my thumb up my ass.

On April 05 2013 11:42 iamperfection wrote:
and if thats the case dp why did you bother to post at all?


On April 05 2013 21:42 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 20:27 marvellosity wrote:
On April 05 2013 17:21 Palmar wrote:
Alright time to see what's going on in the thread.

@marv: on a scale of 1-10 how certain are you that I'm town?

@Oats: go yell at someone please.


I have a slight townread on you, dunno how that translates into 1-10.

Looks like I'm not gonna get Ace lynched today... *serious hat*

##Unvote

why does it look like ace isnt get lynched? what has he done to make you think he is not scum?
Why are you being passive? Why are you not pushing for what you want? why am i forced to ask these questions?

are you scum?



Also, note the timestamps on his posts. Many them are multi-line, confrontational posts (which actually say something) literally written within a minute of the quote that he is responding to. Even when he is under pressure from Palmar/marv, he is very spontaneous.

According to Oats, Iamp hasn't played scum in a while, and I doubt whether he'd be confident enough in his scum play to be so spontaneous, aggressive, and attention-drawing right out the gate.

I'm not sure how I feel about the point brought up by Palmar/marv that his push on Ace feels too energetic. I agree the vigor he shows is odd, but overall I feel he is more likely to be town for it for reasons I stated above.




Oatsmaster
My best guess at scum right now is Oatsmaster.

His first three posts immediately caught my attention because they were all piggy-backing off things already said in the thread, and all contributed to a negative town-atmosphere.

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On April 05 2013 14:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
holy fucking shit like 9 pages of inane banter.

Im not treating any of rayn's posts as serious attempts to get anyone lynched.

no reads :/

On April 05 2013 14:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Rayn,

Give at least like a paragraph with reasoning before you ask others. WHY DONT YOU LYNCH WOS? HUHUHHUUH!!!.

On April 05 2013 16:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 15:57 Tunkeg wrote:
Hi, just checking in to say I won't be able to read or post until later today, after work.


WHY WOULD YOU POST THEN?
Did you at least skim the thread?



I think scum often want to promote the idea early D1 that there is nothing to go on and that town is playing badly etc, so this is a bit suspicious to me. Also, I don't like that I think each and every sentence of his first three posts was echoing a previous thought in the thread made by somebody else. Seems like a very safe way to start the game.

The rest of his filter is ok but I don't feel like he is trying especially hard to figure out the game. He's been in the thread a long time, but a lot of his posts are off-topic or don't really go anywhere.

It also bothers slightly that he originally stated he had "no reads". Then when asked to look at my filter, he said that all three of my posts looked scummy to him and now he thinks I am scum. So either he
-- just glossed over the thread before stating that he had no reads
-- changed his mind on my 3 posts from null to significantly scummy on second look

I don't think a townie is especially likely to do either. Oats, maybe you can explain which it is here.


I certantly think oats is playing a very strange game, and I find his style somewhat disruptive. I think his case on you is based off of nothing. On the other hand he is very confrontational, and is attracting alot of attention to himself. I have seen players like marv and VE do this as scum, but apart from that I have not seen many scumplayers do this. I know nothing of oats meta though, so I wouldn't know if he got the cahones to pull this of. Anyone who know him, who got an input here?
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 05 2013 17:31 GMT
#385
On April 06 2013 02:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
Dumdumdum.

I skimmed the game.

nothing stood out other than Rayns bullshit.

Palmar asked me specifically to look at Sci and Iamp

So I did
And with the absence of Rayn(so important) I saw scummy behavior in your posting.

And weird shit with Iamp.
Maybe with Hapa, his babysitter, he gets a bit cranky

Oh man im not posting 'original content' SURE SIGN OF SCUM RIGHT SCI?

do you think Palmar asking you to do that for those two specifically might have given you predetermined bias?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
April 05 2013 17:45 GMT
#386
What do you think of me ace?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
April 05 2013 17:47 GMT
#387
On April 06 2013 02:20 Palmar wrote:
so we've established everyone is town except sciberbia and WoS?


I found this too funny. Don't know why. Anyway I'll talk about shit properly later, I'm kinda just watching for now.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 05 2013 17:49 GMT
#388
On April 06 2013 02:31 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 02:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
Dumdumdum.

I skimmed the game.

nothing stood out other than Rayns bullshit.

Palmar asked me specifically to look at Sci and Iamp

So I did
And with the absence of Rayn(so important) I saw scummy behavior in your posting.

And weird shit with Iamp.
Maybe with Hapa, his babysitter, he gets a bit cranky

Oh man im not posting 'original content' SURE SIGN OF SCUM RIGHT SCI?

do you think Palmar asking you to do that for those two specifically might have given you predetermined bias?

Possibly, especially with his voting.

But I dont think so in this situation.

Sciberia IS BLINDING YOU..

Also push someone or you are scum
No gg, No skill.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 05 2013 17:49 GMT
#389
On April 06 2013 02:47 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 02:20 Palmar wrote:
so we've established everyone is town except sciberbia and WoS?


I found this too funny. Don't know why. Anyway I'll talk about shit properly later, I'm kinda just watching for now.

Funny how? Do you agree with it?
You never answered my question as to why you find me scummy marv.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
April 05 2013 17:50 GMT
#390
That'll be the "I'll talk about shit properly later" bit dear
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 05 2013 17:51 GMT
#391
Since no mention has been given to him so far, I have a scumread on prplhz.
His filter is entirely opportunistic one-liners where he offers nothing concrete in terms of scumreads, he literally poses a random question then disappears for a while. This does not constitute scumhunting to me.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 05 2013 17:53 GMT
#392
On April 06 2013 02:45 iamperfection wrote:
What do you think of me ace?

doesn't really matter right now
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 05 2013 17:53 GMT
#393
On April 06 2013 02:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
Since no mention has been given to him so far, I have a scumread on prplhz.
His filter is entirely opportunistic one-liners where he offers nothing concrete in terms of scumreads, he literally poses a random question then disappears for a while. This does not constitute scumhunting to me.


Thats what he does as either alignment dear.

You gotta have something more than that
No gg, No skill.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 05 2013 17:55 GMT
#394
On April 06 2013 02:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 02:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
Since no mention has been given to him so far, I have a scumread on prplhz.
His filter is entirely opportunistic one-liners where he offers nothing concrete in terms of scumreads, he literally poses a random question then disappears for a while. This does not constitute scumhunting to me.


Thats what he does as either alignment dear.

You gotta have something more than that

I've never played with prplhz before so I didn't know that. So in these other games he plays, does he ever do anything useful or is this how he decides to play the game and people just leave him alone?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 05 2013 17:55 GMT
#395
On April 06 2013 02:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 02:31 Ace wrote:
On April 06 2013 02:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
Dumdumdum.

I skimmed the game.

nothing stood out other than Rayns bullshit.

Palmar asked me specifically to look at Sci and Iamp

So I did
And with the absence of Rayn(so important) I saw scummy behavior in your posting.

And weird shit with Iamp.
Maybe with Hapa, his babysitter, he gets a bit cranky

Oh man im not posting 'original content' SURE SIGN OF SCUM RIGHT SCI?

do you think Palmar asking you to do that for those two specifically might have given you predetermined bias?

Possibly, especially with his voting.

But I dont think so in this situation.

Sciberia IS BLINDING YOU..

Also push someone or you are scum

I don't know if you're trolling but be serious. the random bullshit part of the day is over.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 05 2013 17:57 GMT
#396
On April 06 2013 02:55 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 02:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 06 2013 02:31 Ace wrote:
On April 06 2013 02:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
Dumdumdum.

I skimmed the game.

nothing stood out other than Rayns bullshit.

Palmar asked me specifically to look at Sci and Iamp

So I did
And with the absence of Rayn(so important) I saw scummy behavior in your posting.

And weird shit with Iamp.
Maybe with Hapa, his babysitter, he gets a bit cranky

Oh man im not posting 'original content' SURE SIGN OF SCUM RIGHT SCI?

do you think Palmar asking you to do that for those two specifically might have given you predetermined bias?

Possibly, especially with his voting.

But I dont think so in this situation.

Sciberia IS BLINDING YOU..

Also push someone or you are scum

I don't know if you're trolling but be serious. the random bullshit part of the day is over.

Keep going, I want to hear something from you regarding Opinions and not criticism
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 05 2013 19:48 GMT
#397
Ill be back in about 16 hours, dont kill each other while im gone.
No gg, No skill.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 05 2013 19:49 GMT
#398
can anybody tell me why axlegreaser is town
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
April 05 2013 19:56 GMT
#399
On April 06 2013 04:49 prplhz wrote:
can anybody tell me why axlegreaser is town


Can you actually properly tell me why he isn't?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
April 05 2013 20:03 GMT
#400
On April 06 2013 04:49 prplhz wrote:
can anybody tell me why axlegreaser is town


Well I gave him townie points for this post.

+ Show Spoiler +

On April 05 2013 13:49 AxleGreaser wrote:
@Palmar
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 10:51 Palmar wrote:
yeah scummy ace I have my eyes on you

##FoS Ace

I'll be watching you

careful or I might PUT A VOTE ON YOU


I am curious. I don't yet have any meta on you apart from memory...
Can you direct me to any game in which you ##FOS a player?
Id like to see under what conditions you normally do that?

##Fos Palmar

I'll be watching you (but doing other things)

I'd suggest you be careful or I might put vote on you...
except that you'd just ignore that, hence it would be pointless
but its the questions I ask that are the problem.




@WOS.
While the anchor you gave me here, is anice anchor and all that jazz, having had quick look at his Red team filter
Then yes your description of a headless chook seems about right.

Was there any reason you thought we should lynch a headless chook?

and yes, just before you run off here you can have your "headless chook" read back for now

I would need to see something directly scummy, rather than just noisily anti town..




He saw something that he thought was out of place with Palmar and asked him about it, and he bothered to look up one of rayn's old filters, and put some thought into the WoS/rayn storyline.

He was the first person to put some real effort into figuring out the game, when he certainly was under no pressure to do so, as everyone else was trolling or just doing nothing.




also, oats are you still around by any chacne?
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