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iamperfection
United States9642 Posts
On April 06 2013 01:24 Tunkeg wrote: iamperfection: Who do you want to lynch besides Ace? Please provide some reasoning why as well. Sigh I already did............ | ||
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Tunkeg
Norway1235 Posts
On April 06 2013 01:17 marvellosity wrote: Here's an idea Oats. Tell him why you want to lynch scib, and ask him if he agrees or disagrees, and why. Go! :> On April 06 2013 01:22 Oatsmaster wrote: By your command Marv. This is why I want to lynch scib Do you agree/disagree and WHY? I am null on you, as I said to people earlier, prove why this is not noob town and in fact is scum. No one has done that and everyone has dropped it. Earlier, I said that again, Im null on Ace, as far as I know he does this with both alignments, but the longer he goes without a coherent push in any direction, the more solid my read gets on him. So if I follow you you want to lynch sciberbia for: - Trying to start a discussion on optimal town strategy regarding length of days - Posting a couple of questions to marv and rayn This because you lable both these posts as useless and fillers. My take is: His posts are made early on day one, and I don't see that his posts are any worse or any better than other posts made at the same time. I can't read any allignement indicative things from his posts thus far. So I would say I disagree with you. He is a null read to me. He needs to post more, thats all. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
And while I have mentioned I don't want to entertain rayn in any way, my desire to assist the town by forming coherent reads on me trumps my dislike for him. Plus it's technically answering a question from marv anyway. The first half of Rayn's ridiculous filter where he talks about how scummy I am is literally him saying "LOOK AT HOW SCUMMY HE IS DID YOU JUST READ HIS POST HERP DERP" without even offering any explanation of his own. I don't know in what world people seem to think spamming of that sort is actually useful or town-aligned in any way, but whatever. Like, he switches from scib to me to iamp and back to me to Axle AND THEN BACK TO ME in the span of 3 hours and offers no proper explanation for ANY of those switches. Clearly he doesn't expect us to take him seriously, but that in itself isn't exactly town-aligned---as town you want your votes and reasoning to be heard and recognized as scumhunting, not seen as useless spam. The second half of his filter is him picking a line or two from my posts and saying "THIS IS SCUMMY, HEY EGO MM PLAYER #XX, WHAT DO YOU THINK?" Useless, shitposting, means nothing once again. With that rationale anyone can take any line from anyone's filter, point it out and ask someone better than them what they think and call that scumhunting. This is the best thing Rayn has posted to date: On April 05 2013 20:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: There is no need to say this. This doesn't say shit. General information, doesn't say anything. First he is saying he's going with marv. So he is voting for Ace because marv is voting for Ace? Another "reason" for Ace vote is "because Ace is scary as scum". roflskates. So we should kill every strong player because if they are scum they are scary? If this is a pressure vote it's like the worst pressure vote i have ever seen because the reasons are so terrible. WoS is not even taking responsibility from his own vote, as he is just "sheeping marv". Other than that his posts are about me "shitposting". Yes i might have not reasoned why i think some people are scum, but at least i am telling i think some people are scum. And i think you are one. His reasoning where he compares himself to me at the end is laughable since as I pointed out earlier his earlier scumreads are based on literally NOTHING. This is the only 'case' of any real substance he has posted thus far so having the balls to call someone scum means absolutely nothing to me coming from him. As far as his reasoning to why I'm scummy for voting Ace? I stand by it. I have been told that Ace is one of those players who you're apparently supposed to just kill if he's still alive at some point. Ok, maybe this doesn't mean we kill him D1 but it does mean that if he is scum, as a fairly new player who has barely played with Ace I should be afraid of him. As far as Rayn suggesting that I'm saying we kill every strong player because if they're scum they are scary, I don't say that anywhere, but it does seem to be the rationale on which some later lynches on strong players are based. Maybe Rayn should look up the people he's playing with a little. As far as sheeping Marv goes, good for you, Rayn, you pointed out what I already pointed out. Want a cookie? Basing a scumread he has pushed so crazily on 3 posts 3 hours into D1 is not a strong scumread by any means and it just shows Rayn's ability to critically think essentially amounts to him reading some sort of 'Scum for Dummies' guide, pointing out some seemingly obvious tells and frantically screaming at everyone else to look at his seemingly obvious tells he pointed out. I'm not going to go so far as OMGUS on Rayn because I as well find it really difficult to believe scum would play this awfully, but I guess we'll see if a more coherent Rayn enters the thread. I am not concerned by his 'scumread' of me in the slightest, but I am more concerned by others,' however. Marv why is it you said you wanted to kill me based on Rayn's posts? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On April 06 2013 01:38 Tunkeg wrote: So if I follow you you want to lynch sciberbia for: - Trying to start a discussion on optimal town strategy regarding length of days - Posting a couple of questions to marv and rayn This because you lable both these posts as useless and fillers. My take is: His posts are made early on day one, and I don't see that his posts are any worse or any better than other posts made at the same time. I can't read any allignement indicative things from his posts thus far. So I would say I disagree with you. He is a null read to me. He needs to post more, thats all. DID YOU EVEN READ THE POSTS? The point is that the 'discussion' he started was horrible, of course longer days are better and of course too long days are bad although with non newbies I dont really think thats an issue. So he is scum cause he wants to LOOK like he is contributing but he didnt actually want to help town. The questions are not even meant to elicit a proper response, they are questions to try and get the subject, in this case, marv angry and DISRUPT the thread like BH. When this is his only contribution, Its looking really bad. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On April 06 2013 01:42 WaveofShadow wrote: As far as his reasoning to why I'm scummy for voting Ace? I stand by it. I have been told that Ace is one of those players who you're apparently supposed to just kill if he's still alive at some point. Ok, maybe this doesn't mean we kill him D1 but it does mean that if he is scum, as a fairly new player who has barely played with Ace I should be afraid of him. Wait what? Still alive at some point means day 1? Where do you get this? Why dont you pressure marv too? He is a scary good scum player as well. Why Ace if you want to kill the 'players to policy lynch if still alive'? Why should you be afraid of dudes? huuuuh? Did you suddenly lose ALL SELF CONFIDENCE, to kill people who are scary rather than scum? What. ? | ||
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Tunkeg
Norway1235 Posts
On April 06 2013 01:50 Oatsmaster wrote: DID YOU EVEN READ THE POSTS? The point is that the 'discussion' he started was horrible, of course longer days are better and of course too long days are bad although with non newbies I dont really think thats an issue. So he is scum cause he wants to LOOK like he is contributing but he didnt actually want to help town. The questions are not even meant to elicit a proper response, they are questions to try and get the subject, in this case, marv angry and DISRUPT the thread like BH. When this is his only contribution, Its looking really bad. Wow I wish I could read the game like you do, I can see it clearly, sciberbia is totally scum now............ NOT. While I agree that the discussion he attempted to start is useless, I have seen more townies try to start a random discussion to get the thread going than scumies. I see just as much town motivation for trying to starrt up a discussion as that as scum motivation. The question are reasonable questions, I don't see them as clearly scummotivated. The only thing that is the slightest scummy about sci is his lack of follow up... | ||
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sciberbia
United States1359 Posts
I don't think the suspicion on iamperfection is warranted. I'm leaning town on him based on the attention he drew to himself early in the game. First of all, he drew attention to himself by consistently pushing Ace as a serious lynch and making a big deal out. He also confronts various other people like rayn, dp, prplhz, marv + Show Spoiler + On April 05 2013 10:43 iamperfection wrote: i was pretty clear on why ace is scummy. list right now your lack of reading comprehension is concerning but you seem interested at least so ill put you down as stupid town for now. On April 05 2013 11:37 iamperfection wrote: so would you rather i sit here with my thumb up my ass. On April 05 2013 11:42 iamperfection wrote: and if thats the case dp why did you bother to post at all? On April 05 2013 21:42 iamperfection wrote: why does it look like ace isnt get lynched? what has he done to make you think he is not scum? Why are you being passive? Why are you not pushing for what you want? why am i forced to ask these questions? are you scum? Also, note the timestamps on his posts. Many them are multi-line, confrontational posts (which actually say something) literally written within a minute of the quote that he is responding to. Even when he is under pressure from Palmar/marv, he is very spontaneous. According to Oats, Iamp hasn't played scum in a while, and I doubt whether he'd be confident enough in his scum play to be so spontaneous, aggressive, and attention-drawing right out the gate. I'm not sure how I feel about the point brought up by Palmar/marv that his push on Ace feels too energetic. I agree the vigor he shows is odd, but overall I feel he is more likely to be town for it for reasons I stated above. Oatsmaster My best guess at scum right now is Oatsmaster. His first three posts immediately caught my attention because they were all piggy-backing off things already said in the thread, and all contributed to a negative town-atmosphere. + Show Spoiler + On April 05 2013 14:06 Oatsmaster wrote: holy fucking shit like 9 pages of inane banter. Im not treating any of rayn's posts as serious attempts to get anyone lynched. no reads :/ On April 05 2013 14:10 Oatsmaster wrote: Rayn, Give at least like a paragraph with reasoning before you ask others. WHY DONT YOU LYNCH WOS? HUHUHHUUH!!!. On April 05 2013 16:33 Oatsmaster wrote: WHY WOULD YOU POST THEN? Did you at least skim the thread? I think scum often want to promote the idea early D1 that there is nothing to go on and that town is playing badly etc, so this is a bit suspicious to me. Also, I don't like that I think each and every sentence of his first three posts was echoing a previous thought in the thread made by somebody else. Seems like a very safe way to start the game. The rest of his filter is ok but I don't feel like he is trying especially hard to figure out the game. He's been in the thread a long time, but a lot of his posts are off-topic or don't really go anywhere. It also bothers slightly that he originally stated he had "no reads". Then when asked to look at my filter, he said that all three of my posts looked scummy to him and now he thinks I am scum. So either he -- just glossed over the thread before stating that he had no reads -- changed his mind on my 3 posts from null to significantly scummy on second look I don't think a townie is especially likely to do either. Oats, maybe you can explain which it is here. | ||
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Tunkeg
Norway1235 Posts
My bad. You want to lynch marv for being lazy and apathic. Pure meta. I think that one is way worse than your Ace push. It adds nothing to the game. The reasoning is thin, and it don't pressure marv to do anything. It adds nothing for the rest of us to take a stance on. It is just nothingness. Son, you let me down... :/ | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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iamperfection
United States9642 Posts
On April 06 2013 02:04 Tunkeg wrote: My bad. You want to lynch marv for being lazy and apathic. Pure meta. I think that one is way worse than your Ace push. It adds nothing to the game. The reasoning is thin, and it don't pressure marv to do anything. It adds nothing for the rest of us to take a stance on. It is just nothingness. Son, you let me down... :/ No your not reading sigh | ||
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iamperfection
United States9642 Posts
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iamperfection
United States9642 Posts
On April 05 2013 22:33 iamperfection wrote: i could kill kim dont like how he talked about rayn a lot in this post and leads to no conclusion on what he thinks. Cries about activity but doesn't look like he cares to figure out his alignment. don't see that likely coming from a townie. here you go tunkeng | ||
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Tunkeg
Norway1235 Posts
Will you help an illiterate by sumarize it then? | ||
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Tunkeg
Norway1235 Posts
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sciberbia
United States1359 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
I skimmed the game. nothing stood out other than Rayns bullshit. Palmar asked me specifically to look at Sci and Iamp So I did And with the absence of Rayn(so important) I saw scummy behavior in your posting. And weird shit with Iamp. Maybe with Hapa, his babysitter, he gets a bit cranky  Oh man im not posting 'original content' SURE SIGN OF SCUM RIGHT SCI? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On April 06 2013 02:13 sciberbia wrote: Any thoughts on what I said about Oats? Agree/disagree with my points? Do you guys think he is scum? Read this (or a couple of pages at least) and get back to me with your opinion on Oats. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On April 06 2013 02:09 iamperfection wrote: i like that marv pressured me by the way just a tid bit for you guys. Iamp giving townreads for no reason. TOWN IAMP | ||
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sciberbia
United States1359 Posts
On April 06 2013 02:16 marvellosity wrote: Read this (or a couple of pages at least) and get back to me with your opinion on Oats. Alrighty. Have to go in 10 minutes though so I'll get back to you in a few hours. | ||
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