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On April 09 2013 06:16 Rainbows wrote: Ray was everyones town read? In the previous game I was town... what does that have to do with me being scum? Sorry, I meant previous game as in the game with Ray. And um.... Ray never got a single vote on him that wasn't Me or you.... So yes. Ray was a town read I'm assuming? | ||
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On April 09 2013 06:18 Obzy wrote: That said, Ravens, if you're voting for Rainbows then cool. I think that's stupid, but *shrug* - I guess my vote's on you for a reason, at the moment. I think your vote on Jampi was stupid, I have a better track record so far. But: in the off chance I am wrong and am just hoping too much that one of these days I will read rainbows right... I will look at other cases and post back after I finish some work I have to do for school. | ||
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On April 09 2013 08:46 Obzy wrote: The fact that activity slowed is saddening. I'm heading home from work soon, but my activity will depend on how into things I get this evening. That stated - I had been uncertain as to Ravens due to his activity - that is to say, it is high. Noticing the last game - the highest activity posters were scum, so that sorta got shut down lol. Main reason for this post besides just trying to tell people "PLEASE PLEASE PLS POST"; I suddenly had a flash of insight - please try to reconcile Raven's behavior regarding Rainbows' claim (absolute disbelief, disagreement, fighting against it and is certain he is lying) with this: ... According to your behavior, Ravens, claiming will specifically not save you at all. + Show Spoiler + And why do you say you have a better track record? Yes, we mislynched, and you weren't voting for the mislynch target. This means that you have no track record; alternatively, it could be stated that you were worse at arguing your case. I'm referring to Aces Cop Vigi guide. I meant to say Cop should never claim according to Ace. Apparently neither should Vigis until they think they will get their shot off. Also PS: Yea those non rainbow cases I promised to atleast look into making last night? Fell asleep working on my paper... so that didn't happen lol, my bad. I'll start looking now sense I got about an hour and a half before I have to leave for class. | ||
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On April 09 2013 16:27 jrkirby wrote: I don't think I ever actually voted for jampi. All I ever had was unfounded suspicion. I think thats kind of the point... that you spent most of your time hounding Jampi instead of your actual vote. | ||
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On April 05 2013 09:56 Moloch wrote: You're just seeing what type of personality you can use to not be suspected, skinny guy! People who don't say a lot and just stay low take a higher priority over people that say a lot. Especially early game. If the guys who talk a lot are good, they'll be better for the town than people who don't say much, and if they do happen to be non-fatties, there's a higher chance they'll slip up sooner or later. It's difficult to slip up when you don't say anything or don't have an opinion of your own. So, in your situation probably C or D. This is one of the first things that stood out to me in Moloch's filter, even if the entire scenario rainbows ended up creatined was little silly I feel it should be asked: By this logic, why did you not at least even vote for Jarjar once? JJD STILL has a one page filter, and Jampi had a 3 page filter day 1. Even Rainbows had a 4 page filter when he made his last post of voting for me, and hes the only other person you voted for. + Show Spoiler + On April 08 2013 08:14 Moloch wrote: I'll do my best to answer both of these. I didn't particularly want to lynch JJD because, while he exhibited some of the same signs as jampi early-game (only ever talking about one person and never giving their own opinions on anything else), there wasn't nearly as many posts to go on. I realized that he might be scum lurking, but I felt there was a better chance he was just busy than he was lurking with malicious intent. As far as comparing him to Rainbows, the only thing the two of them have in common is that they each made a bad case. Overall, I felt the chance of the entire Rainbows ragequitting being legitimate was higher than being completely faked. While I've been thinking about it post-fact, I've been trying to think about Rainbows' move from a scum perspective. What would it gain them? - It gained them a non-Rainbows lynch. At the time of the explosion, I believe Rainbows was the one on track to being lynched. - It spread a lot of discord. Both of these things are obviously what they want short-term - especially if Rainbows actually is scum. BUT At the time of his declaration, they would have no way of knowing whether there's a real vigi. If there is, it's quite obvious the best thing for him to do is take out Rainbows - something the scum have no way of preventing unless they convince the doctor to protect him - which would result in good discussion and make people's alliance's easier to read. I'm going to wait until tomorrow before I read too much into anything. The scum hitting someone will give us another confirmed townie, so that will change almost every read we can make at the moment. You also completly avoided analysing the Lynch here you were part of causing, good job on that. Nor is there any analysis on the Night kill. So good job on that. Another useless post from moloch+ Show Spoiler + And on an unrelated note and something that really just kind of clicked for me: the lynch, the nightkill, and Rainbow's claimed vigi hit (me), are all people that made cases against him after the initial wave of joke vote anti spammer cases, however poor those case may be. Sorry, I know I promised I would avoid this, but I couldn't help myself ##Unvote ##Vote: Moloch | ||
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On April 09 2013 21:56 Smancer wrote: I'll do it if everyone else is willing to. How do you know who is town? scumslip?? Ah the "I will vote myself if everyone else wants to defense." If it lets Rainbows get town cred, why won't it work for you  | ||
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On April 09 2013 22:02 JarJarDrinks wrote: So jkirbys defense was pretty weak just like I expected. And looking @ Ravens last few posts, I think he may also be scum and trying to distance himself from kirbs. Here's his response to my case against kirby:He's trying to make it seem like he isn't defending kirby by saying I'm making him doubt his read while @ the same time saying that I don't really have a good argument against him because of my main point. And he's trying to apply that same argument to rainbows even though it's not really similiar @ all. And kirbys defense of jampi while earlier naming him a suspect is the strongest point in my case against him, it's certainly not the only one. Your right, it is a different arguement completly. Because looking back at it, JRK never said he thought Jampi was scum, just that his play style suggested it and he couldn't be sure he WASN'T scum; Which to be fair, most people tend to play blue like that, and as a cop it makes sense to focus on one person, check them at night, then either pile it on or swap to someone else. Mafia won't shoot you if they think they can convince people your at least a little bit scummy. So I feel like his read makes a lot of sense, looking back at it. | ||
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On April 09 2013 22:15 Smancer wrote: TRN I was trying to be sarcastic. I was saying that the logic "I'll vote for someone if everyone else does" is bad. I was not saying I would ever vote for myself. I know xD. That response was sarcastic too, I wanted to put /sarcasm in a spoiler underneath it, but I figured that it was fairly obvious anyways. | ||
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On April 10 2013 00:52 JarJarDrinks wrote: Rainbow was right in that Saraf was basically saying that "we should lynch you whether you are scum or not". And it did seem like Saraf thought Rainbows was town even if he said the words "Even if you are" as opposed to "Probably are". That's just nitpicking words and harping on semantics. If thats your logic, shouldn't rainbows be guilty for twisting the words first that caued Warent to twist his words? | ||
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On April 10 2013 00:58 Rainbows wrote: I don't think Moloch is scum btw. Then post something other than on me. PS: Obzy pulshed his vote onto Jarjar, incase you wern't paying attention. Unless you didn't actually plan on following obzy around. | ||
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On April 10 2013 01:04 Rainbows wrote: Well I'm pretty convinced you're scum, TRN. I'm still waiting for something original from you, baby. Thats okay. I'm still convinced your scum too, if nothing else your current decision on how to play is hurting you more than your blueclaim is helping. I just realize no one wants to listen to me about you anyways.Everyone except Smancer and Moloch wants to listen to obzy too much to actually care. | ||
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On April 10 2013 01:26 TheRavensName wrote: Thats okay. I'm still convinced your scum too, if nothing else your current decision on how to play is hurting you more than your blueclaim is helping. I just realize no one wants to listen to me about you anyways.Everyone except Smancer and Moloch wants to listen to obzy too much to actually care. Wait it was War who voted you,not Moloch. My mistake. | ||
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On April 10 2013 02:05 Smancer wrote: Rainbows, Crazy conspiracy theory incoming... I think you might be right with Raven. One possible explanation I have could be he is voting for Moloch because he actually knows Moloch is scum and my case was good. Then when we lynch scum tonight he can say he voted for Moloch, and why would he do that if he were scum. So to recap he knows Moloch is scum. He knows that his case against you isn't building momentum. He thinks he can survive longer by sacrificing Moloch by using it as an argument upcoming in day 3. Either way I think Raven and Moloch are scum now. I would lynch either. My vote is currently on Moloch. So I would risk killing my scum buddy, by your logic, off a SINGLE vote instead of going after any of the other single votes that arn' my scum buddy. How does that make sense? | ||
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For the Record: I won't be quoting all the questions people asked of rainbows he flat out ignored until heavily pressured, and then still mostly ignored, even though they are a part of my case, because there are simply too many of them. Nor Will I bother to go actually find the quote of Lie/Misinterpretaiton 1: The whole damn incident where Rainbows misinterpretated what was being said and blew out of proportion. Weve beaten it to death, moving on. On April 06 2013 12:12 Rainbows wrote: I hate this defense of NW. "Oh he's just bad townie, we shouldn't lynch him even if he's really scummy" Spare me, Raven. That's bullshit reasoning and you know it. Town has no reason to defend NW right now; Scum does. Scum looks good if he's town and gets lynched, or if they're both scum it's protecting his buddy. Note how he also never gives a read on NW, just calls him bad. Lie/Misinterpretation 2: How can I call him a dumb town and not give a read. On April 06 2013 14:24 Rainbows wrote: Just because someone calls you scum doesn't mean they are scum. Mafia 101. Not playing by his own logic: Go and look at all of Rainbow's votes. Its really easy, they are all on the same people. All of his votes are on people who called him scummy. His ownly Scummy read he didn't vote was NW and Jarjar, but I guess they didn't call him scum. On April 10 2013 01:59 Rainbows wrote: Obzy. Raven is convinced I'm scum. BUT HE VOTES MOLOCH. Explain. He did the same thing with NW, thinking he was scum but didn't vote him for not feeling like it. + Show Spoiler + On April 06 2013 16:02 Rainbows wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: TheRavensName This is my last post. Lie+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://media.desura.com/cache/images/members/1/393/392106/thumb_940x3000/Personal_Trollface_HD.png) Lie 3: Basically that hes been posting useful content sense the start: Thats a huge lie, go look at his filter, most of it is one liners and bitching about how people want to lynch him and generic null read posts EXCEPT for what he posts on me (Which by the way, should count as evidence sense aparently me focusing on him is evidence against me when its all hes done sense his explosion.), Jarjar,(Who got like four lines and nothing sense), and the times he OMGUSed people. I also want to put in Warant's analysis on reasons why Rainbow's claim might be bullshit, because I feel a similar way about it, I've brought it up a couple of times (before rainbow's calls this sheeping too. I'm just doing what he asked.) I would however like to add to it these couple of phrases: On April 05 2013 13:04 Rainbows wrote: I fakeclaimed as a troll move and it worked =|. Felt bad for town that game. On April 06 2013 15:28 Rainbows wrote: Dude I was blatantly trolling and being stupid... why the fuck would I do that if I'm scum I don't know rainbows... why'd you do it last time? [b]##Unvote[/b[ ##Vote: Rainbows | ||
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On April 10 2013 08:26 TheRavensName wrote: Alright guys, sorry I couldn't post this my laptop battery died during my break between classes and I had one class left so I couldn't use it till now. (I don't carry around a charger.) For the Record: I won't be quoting all the questions people asked of rainbows he flat out ignored until heavily pressured, and then still mostly ignored, even though they are a part of my case, because there are simply too many of them. Nor Will I bother to go actually find the quote of Lie/Misinterpretaiton 1: The whole damn incident where Rainbows misinterpretated what was being said and blew out of proportion. Weve beaten it to death, moving on. Lie/Misinterpretation 2: How can I call him a dumb town and not give a read. Not playing by his own logic: Go and look at all of Rainbow's votes. Its really easy, they are all on the same people. All of his votes are on people who called him scummy. His ownly Scummy read he didn't vote was NW and Jarjar, but I guess they didn't call him scum. He did the same thing with NW, thinking he was scum but didn't vote him for not feeling like it. + Show Spoiler + On April 06 2013 16:02 Rainbows wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: TheRavensName This is my last post. Lie+ Show Spoiler + Lie 3: Basically that hes been posting useful content sense the start: Thats a huge lie, go look at his filter, most of it is one liners and bitching about how people want to lynch him and generic null read posts EXCEPT for what he posts on me (Which by the way, should count as evidence sense aparently me focusing on him is evidence against me when its all hes done sense his explosion.), Jarjar,(Who got like four lines and nothing sense), and the times he OMGUSed people. I also want to put in Warant's analysis on reasons why Rainbow's claim might be bullshit, because I feel a similar way about it, I've brought it up a couple of times (before rainbow's calls this sheeping too. I'm just doing what he asked.) I would however like to add to it these couple of phrases: I don't know rainbows... why'd you do it last time? [b]##Unvote[/b[ ##Vote: Rainbows EBWOP: I want to add one thing, a little behavioral analysis thing. Rainbows starts off pretty good during the first half of the day, then vanishes again for the second half, second time now hes done that. He also hasn't seemed really to pushing cases sense his claim, and he hasn't been getting flack for it like most people, so... why is no one consiering this when trying to figure out if his claim is real or not? Its worked so far if its fake. | ||
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##Unvote: ##Vote: Rainbows | ||
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On April 10 2013 08:32 Rainbows wrote: You know if anyone else is blue, they can claim because 3 blues in a game is super rare. cop/doc/vig is stupid op. if you're a doc/jk you can claim and then lynch me? never even thougt of thaat. So that the scum would know all three blue roles? Are you sure your town because that is some pretty blatant blue fishing. | ||
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On April 10 2013 08:33 marvellosity wrote: VOTE COUNT: TheRavensname (2) Rainbows (1) jrkirby (3) JarJarDrinks, nobodywonder, Smancer, JarJarDrinks (1) Moloch (1) Fishgle (1) Fishgle Not Voting: Warent, Moloch Deadline is in just under half an hour. Voting is mandatory. Currently jrkirby is set to be lynched! If you see your vote (or anyone else') out of place please inform me or someone else on the hosting team so that we can correct it. I changed to rainbows again. | ||
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