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nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
April 09 2013 22:10 GMT
#681
@Moloch goatwhore, thats an interesting name lol... haha btw you should post drunk. perhaps the drunken rage will lead us to the scum
i want nobody nobody but you! *clap* *clap*- wonder girls
nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
April 09 2013 22:14 GMT
#682
On April 10 2013 07:09 jrkirby wrote:
Fishgle was never a strong scumread for me. Maybe 3-4 at some points in time when I read over his filter I think he hasn't done much so he's probably scum. Other times I just get the feeling that he's town. I don't know why.


Also, my post messed up.

##VOTE: JarJarDrinks


@jrkirby :/ thats a disappointing reply on fishgle... I expected more. anyways this is an exciting time for you jarjardrinks, can you pull the nobodywonder (see reference to Newbie XXXIIX) besides jarjardrinks, what do you read (scummy/townie) on your current voters?
i want nobody nobody but you! *clap* *clap*- wonder girls
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
April 09 2013 22:15 GMT
#683
Warent seems a lot less scummy to me after his post against rainbows. I don't think it's right, but he has provided a logical reasons why he's voting for rainbows.
Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
April 09 2013 22:20 GMT
#684
I'll talk about it a little, sure. I need to get working- been reading and feeling sort of... worried about a kirby lynch lol, I still think he's our best bet at the moment that's actually been discussed and cases made for, though.

So on Warent, he's felt scummy the entire game (did I already say that? ehn) to me, with moments of ... less scumminess.


I don't know. It's just a feeling. If I could put it in words, I'd vote for him instead of kirby. It feels like Warent says things that sound smart, and then nothing ever comes of them, or he lacks conviction in his words or something. He's still going on about Rainbows, which sort of feels like a copout to the current situation. Given the way he had been speaking, it feels like he should be voting JarJar, not Rainbows. The Rainbows vote comes sort of out of nowhere. I feel bad about voting kirby even though I'm almost certain that you, Smancer, and I on his lynch are town, and your case was excellent. Jarjar's was good, and got things rolling. But people have been rejecting Jarjar's case and not rejecting yours iirc (that's how it feels), other than Moloch who carefully stepped through your case and pointed out a few inconsistencies, making me doubt the lynch on kirby a bit more. Ravens disappeared with his vote sitting still on Moloch, I want him to come back because it feels rather clear to me now that Moloch is town due to the nature of his discussion.

My read against Warent is because other people sound townie and he sounds scummy, but he's playing in a pro-town manner most of the time so it's just a stupid hunch and I refuse to bet my vote on it. Ramble ramble ramble this is frustrating
I have nothing to put here. Obzy#1821 on Bnet.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
April 09 2013 22:22 GMT
#685
Nobodywonder reads townie. He has a good case against me, it's well written,and he's been acting townie all game.

Smancer I'm not confident on. Sometimes I read his filter it seems town, somethimes it seems scum. More scum lately, but that's because Idon't agree with any of his votes, not because he hasn't reasons for them. I really wish he hadn't voted jampi, then I'd have a good townread on him.

Obzy - I hope he's town. If he's not, I really doubt we'll win. He reads town, acts town, and smells town.

Jarjar - obviosly I have scumread on him, because he's been tunneling me hard and hasn't posted substantive evidence against me.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
April 09 2013 22:24 GMT
#686
Obzy - you think smancers case was excellent, not nobodywonder's?
Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
April 09 2013 22:25 GMT
#687
Rainbows is not a horrible person to be voting on but I feel like he's missing the feel of the thread if he decides to jump back onto him. There's more than just one scum.

More random thoughts;
Warent - he said that there's no real case against Moloch which I totally disagree with there definitely was a case on him - it's just that he is showing that the cases were flawed, I don't think they were inherently flawed. He says that Rainbows should be dead today and I outright disagree, he shouldn't be under basically any circumstances.
Rainbows - where'd he go? -_- So troublesome. sec I see some responses talking to me so this post will be short.
I have nothing to put here. Obzy#1821 on Bnet.
Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
April 09 2013 22:26 GMT
#688
Kirby - I think nobodywonder's case was very strong. I nodded along with Jarjar's because it sounded reasonable given a field of 'everyone is scummy' - at least, I think so now. I think at the time I was pretty convinced and nobodywonder's case was just icing on the cake, it was convincing and it looked like it came from a very town-oriented mindset.
I have nothing to put here. Obzy#1821 on Bnet.
Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
April 09 2013 22:30 GMT
#689
Regarding you bringing up smancer's case (presumably against you), I'll be honest, the first thought that entered my mind was "Case? :l"
I have nothing to put here. Obzy#1821 on Bnet.
jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
April 09 2013 22:30 GMT
#690
I really hope I'm not wrong on jarjar. If I am, and you lynch me, then we've pretty much lost this game.
Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
April 09 2013 22:31 GMT
#691
Please give a logical breakdown, as long as you can, with your argument specifically against Jarjar's case on you and why he is scum.
I have nothing to put here. Obzy#1821 on Bnet.
Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
April 09 2013 22:35 GMT
#692
I feel like we're on a route to losing right now because I don't have confidence in lynching you in the same way I had confidence in lynching jampi. Jampi flipped town so my confidence was clearly misplaced, but I am not happy with things right now. I feel like we've basically got three guaranteed town, maybe up to four or five but they aren't here or playing properly, but that's not enough given that we've only got a pair of mislynches left, and we haven't answered the Rainbows/Ravens question to my absolute satisfaction.

Moloch has provided a reasonable summary, enough to introduce doubt into nobodywonder's case, and it is the one I really liked. But there's no better lynch with reasonable evidence than you. If you are going to accuse Jarjar, then I would like you specifically to break apart his case and prove to me that he is scum - because I don't think nobodywonder or Moloch are, and nobody else is really a reasonable person that I could vote on without feeling like I was absolutely absolutely jumping the gun if that makes sense don't even bother responding to this post with a 'yeah okay i'll go look into his filter but don't expect much' or 'i'll see what i can do' just go do it. I'll consider moving my vote onto Jarjar instead of you, but I need you to occupy that same place that nobodywonder and Moloch occupy right now, and you don't!
I have nothing to put here. Obzy#1821 on Bnet.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 22:54:21
April 09 2013 22:46 GMT
#693
VOTE COUNT:


TheRavensname (1) Obzy, Rainbows

Rainbows (1) Smancer, TheRavensName, warent

jrkirby (4) JarJarDrinks, nobodywonder, Smancer, Obzy

JarJarDrinks (1) Obzy jrkirby

Moloch (1) Smancer, TheRavensName, Obzy

Not Voting: Warent, Fishgle, Moloch

Deadline is in 1.25 hours. Voting is mandatory.

Currently jrkirby is set to be lynched!

If you see your vote (or anyone else') out of place please inform me or someone else on the hosting team so that we can correct it.



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jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
April 09 2013 22:47 GMT
#694
1) Jarjar has only ever said bad things about me and warent. He hasn't ever given his reads on everyone.
2) Jarjar has lurked quite a bit, especially day 1 and night 1.
3) He doesn't even seem to mind that we lynched the wrong dude day 1.
4) First, his case against me was me voting rainbows; I have already explained why this is weak: no one had much information at that point, and rainbows was my highest scumread, didn't last too long.
5) Then he hates me for my FOS on jampi which I never act upon. I never claimed it was particularly founded suspicion, just suspicion. Everyone has suspicions like this, it's just townies choose not to act on them until there's evidence. I just wanted people to know I was suspicious, and maybe bait a little scumslip if I was right.
6) Then he AFKs while we lynch jampi.
7) Never takes his vote off me, and never votes anyone else.
8) Never defends himself, always on the offensive. Like maybe he has a couple scumbuddies to help him if things get too rough. (Maybe this one's a stretch)
9)he says: "Reading rainbows as town mostly but that's due in part to believing that you're scum. He's talking alot which I like." But has less pages than anyone else alive (I'm pretty sure). (Kinda same as 2)
10) He doesn't offer any insights as to why things happen, no logical posts saying why (for example) saraf was shot.

I might have more on him if he actually said anything significant.
nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
April 09 2013 22:49 GMT
#695
btw, where is raven? i find it also interesting that so far according to the vote count that he seems to be following smancer.

hey promethelax, you dun goofed on obzy's vote, he switched to jrkirby. and also warent has his vote on rainbows

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Moloch
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada222 Posts
April 09 2013 22:52 GMT
#696
I really don't like Smancer's case for kirby either. After the lynch, he admits that kirby looks good (presumably he meant townie)

On April 07 2013 10:44 Smancer wrote:
Damn it.

Jkirby this makes you look really good.


He votes/unvotes Rainbows a ~36 hours later.

He builds a case against me ~ 24 hours after that.

He hasn't mentioned Kirby again until

On April 09 2013 21:56 Smancer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 14:30 jrkirby wrote:
Smancer smells bad to me. I will vote for him if I think that the town is on my side.


I'll do it if everyone else is willing to. How do you know who is town? scumslip??


But he claims he was being sarcastic about the scumslip part, and just pointing out the bad logic.

He then does his crazy conspiracy theory (his words) about Raven and me.

This is where it starts getting interesting. He quotes kirby's three one-liners that imply Smancer is scum, and does a complete turnaround and goes aggressive on kirby. Then he ridicules kirby because kirby doesn't want to lynch me.

An hour later, he says he likes how I addressed his case against me, but he's still voting for kirby.

The only thing he's going on is that kirby has been "posting garbage reads" and that he doesn't seem to have a sense of urgency to find scum.

To me, it feels like Smancer is just doing voting for kirby because kirby made a weak case against him.
Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
April 09 2013 22:54 GMT
#697
Moloch who would you want to vote for if not kirby? nobody do you have any insights or are you still convinced?
I have nothing to put here. Obzy#1821 on Bnet.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
April 09 2013 22:55 GMT
#698
On April 10 2013 07:49 nobodywonder wrote:
btw, where is raven? i find it also interesting that so far according to the vote count that he seems to be following smancer.

hey promethelax, you dun goofed on obzy's vote, he switched to jrkirby. and also warent has his vote on rainbows



you saw nothing
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jrkirby
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1510 Posts
April 09 2013 22:55 GMT
#699
If TRN had the same logic as Warent when he was against rainbows a while ago, I'd have a somewhat strong townread on him. As it is, I'm unsure on him. He could be with jarjar if jarjar is scum... I could definately see that.
Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
April 09 2013 22:59 GMT
#700
kirby - why did you use percentages in that one read awhile back? Why didn't you just do a read like this?
On April 10 2013 07:22 jrkirby wrote:
Nobodywonder reads townie. He has a good case against me, it's well written,and he's been acting townie all game.

Smancer I'm not confident on. Sometimes I read his filter it seems town, somethimes it seems scum. More scum lately, but that's because Idon't agree with any of his votes, not because he hasn't reasons for them. I really wish he hadn't voted jampi, then I'd have a good townread on him.

Obzy - I hope he's town. If he's not, I really doubt we'll win. He reads town, acts town, and smells town.

Jarjar - obviosly I have scumread on him, because he's been tunneling me hard and hasn't posted substantive evidence against me.
I have nothing to put here. Obzy#1821 on Bnet.
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