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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 03 2013 21:21 GMT
#421
Case not necessary. Bullet points will suffice, reference thread events if you want.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 03 2013 21:21 GMT
#422
I'm asking to engage you on the matter, not simply list off reasons and me go "yep" or "nope" at the end.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 03 2013 21:24 GMT
#423
Ghor I wouldn't hammer VE either because VE is a townread. I would hammer a null-read rather then to see a no-lynch. Can you not see the difference in that?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 03 2013 21:27 GMT
#424
Ew why do you people keep calling me a townread. Jesus it's like saluting officers on the field in battle, do you WANT me to die?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 03 2013 21:31 GMT
#425
but you're so townie, VE.

in the interest of self preservation: ##Vote: Sylencia
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 03 2013 21:32 GMT
#426
On April 04 2013 06:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm curious to know what the things you dislike about Syl are. You say there are things. What are they?

Mainly his reluctance to take a stand about the lynch and his relationship with Ghor. He's pretty much the only one he's taken a stance on and it in a way looks like tunneling hidden behind a claimed general dislike for Ghors writing. However I'm also not sure if a scum Syl would tunnel a person so blatantly poorly while being passive about voting him. If he was scum he should have had a teammate to tell him he's playing awefully and give him some advice.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
April 03 2013 21:36 GMT
#427
HOST COUNT



risk.nuke ( 0): Mr. Cheesecake, VisceraEyes, RebirthOfLeGenD, Hopeless1der
VisceraEyes ( 0 ): RebirthOfLeGenD
Sylencia ( 3 ): AxleGreaser, Ghor, Lazermonkey, Ghor, Hopeless1der
Mr. Cheesecake ( 1 ): Sylencia, RebirthOfLeGenD
Ghor ( 0 ): Hopeless1der , Hopeless1der
Hopeless1der ( 3 ): VisceraEyes, risk.nuke, Mr. Cheesecake, Ghor, Hopeless1der, AxleGreaser

Not Voting ( 3 ): Sylencia, VisceraEyes

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch. This is instant majority lynch. If you see a mistake please notify us.

~25 minutes until no-lynch.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 03 2013 21:37 GMT
#428
But don't you think that the teammate argument is stepping too far out of the context of the game? Like, the same could be argued about any scum that make mistakes no? So scum never make mistakes because scum always have teammates to correct them?

He has also stated interest in hammering Hopeless, and it seemed to come out of left field. What do you think of that?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
April 03 2013 21:38 GMT
#429
Where is RoL -.-...
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 03 2013 21:39 GMT
#430
Same place RoL always is. Where he wants to be. Clearly that's not here. Sucks to be us.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 03 2013 21:40 GMT
#431
I'm at work hiding my phone under the table... this is exciting! Is there no convincing you guys of a hopeless lynch instead?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
April 03 2013 21:41 GMT
#432
Well that sucks. I'm willing to swap over to Hopeless if we need to. No lynch is worst lynch...
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 03 2013 21:41 GMT
#433
On April 04 2013 06:38 Lazermonkey wrote:
Where is RoL -.-...

While he's gone Lazer, how about you tell me what you think of his case on Cheese? He seemed pretty sure that Cheese should be the lynch, and if he's gone for the lynch he'll undoubtedly be furious that we didn't jump onboard. If you're so interested in what RoL has to say, why not comment on what he's said?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 03 2013 21:41 GMT
#434
On April 04 2013 06:40 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I'm at work hiding my phone under the table... this is exciting! Is there no convincing you guys of a hopeless lynch instead?

stop that plox, im not scum. come lynch sylencia with the cool kids.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 03 2013 21:43 GMT
#435
Unfortunately Hopeless it doesnt work that way... but omfg i want a flip.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 03 2013 21:43 GMT
#436
On April 04 2013 06:40 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I'm at work hiding my phone under the table... this is exciting! Is there no convincing you guys of a hopeless lynch instead?

I'm on fence Cheese, do what you gotta do to convince me sir. I'm giving everyone a chance to pipe up. I'm even listening to arguments for lynching you! ^^
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
April 03 2013 21:46 GMT
#437
On April 04 2013 06:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 06:38 Lazermonkey wrote:
Where is RoL -.-...

While he's gone Lazer, how about you tell me what you think of his case on Cheese? He seemed pretty sure that Cheese should be the lynch, and if he's gone for the lynch he'll undoubtedly be furious that we didn't jump onboard. If you're so interested in what RoL has to say, why not comment on what he's said?
To be fair, I didn't analyze the case on CC very much as he was not a realistic lynch by that time. I do however, have a some bad vibes about CC because of his wierdo flip flop on Syl...
Ghor
Profile Joined March 2013
Russian Federation140 Posts
April 03 2013 21:46 GMT
#438
Somewhat chronologically:

  • In the big read post sylencia shows something I would call self-centeredness, and not working towards achieving established goals.
    Take for example my trolling. Sylencia talks lengthy about the justification for disappreciating it, mentions an example from an earlier game, but he says I'm a wildcard. From my point of view, this is absolutely not true. While I formulated my posts in weird manner, my intentions and opinions always shined through them, and most agree on this.

    Then he mentions "flaws" in risk's play, but he does not attribute any interpretation to them. He only describes them, with no conclusion, moving into "but I feel that the votes are early"-defense, and saying he disappreciated CC's vote the most. That is no conclusion or comment on risk's play, that is only a description of people's reactions to risk.

    My battery is running out so I will summarize the rest of the post like this:
    It's summarizing, shows no clear direction. Not the engagement of a townie in pursuing his reads, but a huge "look, I'm making reads post, leave me alone. His vote on CC feels like a policy vote on a guy who pressure voted risk.

  • When I call him out for not commenting on risk's play or alignment, he says this:
    Ghor, since it's looking more trollish by the second, you could probably drop the third person at least or I'm not really going to be able to read your posts seriously enough. I don't even follow what you mean regarding what I said about risk + CC. As for why I haven't said if I thought risk's actions were scummy or not, that's because it's not exactly clear which way it goes. On one hand, you can say it's scummy because he says it was just looking for reactions but it looks more like no one followed what he was alluding to so he gave it up, but on the other hand it's hard to say he'd give it up so quickly and deny it as soon as he is questioned about it if he was scum because it's a lot more legit if you follow through with the case. Instead, he retracted it and it left him looking weak but that doesn't mean he's town. Happy?


    Start with telling me how to write (but he seems to understand it pretty well). He first says an argument for risk being scummy, then mentions the same argument risk used, but ends up saying, that doesn't mean he's town. Well, why mention it then if it's the argument that's meant to say that he's not scum, to head over and say it doesn't mean it's town?

  • Next he says this:
    And at this point, no, he's played enough games where I don't see him making himself look suspicious 3 hours into the game. The case on him has its merits however I would rather first see more from the two I've heard least from today (Hopeless and CC) - moreso Hopeless because there's ever so slightly more from CC.

    Ghor - now that I've said it what are your thoughts on risk then? Would you say he is scum or not? Would you end up backing a vote on him if the time came for it?


    The defense "scum do not look suspicious, so risk is not scum". Then he asks me what I think of risk (along with hopeless) and I point out my earlier posts where I already said it.

  • When his scumreads hopeless and CC were around, sylencia wasn't there to milk information from them. He did attack me though.

  • Sylencia was basically first to say that it's scummy to push for him with risk as scumread, when I also laid that out in the post where I talk about risk.

  • Next point is: Except for his big, diluted read post, sylencia hardly writes about his reads on his own, but replies to a lot of people. He doesn't try to push the thread into a direction or let himself be heard. His posts are all: "I do this cause that and I stand here cause that, I would lynch this guy and this guy.
    He says I'm scum, but never made a case,only complained about me trolling.
    He says he would lynch CC, but never interacted with CC or made his change of read public before retreating from his lynch.
    He says he would lynch hopeless, but didn't interact with him or push for his lynch.

  • High tendency to justify himself, summarizing posts, reactive, not active play. No spontaneous lashing out at and questioning of his scumreads.

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AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
April 03 2013 21:48 GMT
#439
wtf
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
April 03 2013 21:48 GMT
#440
You could lynch me, that would be epic fail.

This fucking sucks its like a coin flip ATM.

But V.E you of all people should realize hopelesses scummy actions like that clarity post... i cant get it out if my head grrrrr.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
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