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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 03 2013 16:13 GMT
#361
According to STRONGCOUNT I'm at L-2. Here, how's this?


##Unvote: Ghor
##Vote: Hopeless1der

Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 03 2013 16:18 GMT
#362
Axle do you still think I lied or was contradictory about why I started after Ghor in the first place?
Ghor
Profile Joined March 2013
Russian Federation140 Posts
April 03 2013 16:19 GMT
#363
Hopeless say what you think of sylencia instead of derping? Your reading mistakes made you look terrible, but not only, and I'm trying to get a scummier dude than you lynched, so stop martyring and start cooperating if you're town.
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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 03 2013 16:20 GMT
#364
On April 04 2013 01:19 Ghor wrote:
Hopeless say what you think of sylencia instead of derping? Your reading mistakes made you look terrible, but not only, and I'm trying to get a scummier dude than you lynched, so stop martyring and start cooperating if you're town.

HOLY SHIT HE STOPPED 3RD PERSON

##Unvote
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 03 2013 16:27 GMT
#365
Hopeless, my case on you is not meta based. Meta is generally only something I use to gather others to my case once it's been made.

My problem with you is I called you out for not caring about scum hunting quite early, and despite that you didn't give a shit about trying to up your game, while you weren't under any pressure. Nor have you claimed busy. You just straight out was lurking and never scumhunting or caring about the game.

Your only contributions were highly suspicious egging-on-from-the-shadows posts.

My impression on you which I've gotten from games I've played with you before is you're an intelligent individual. So why have an intelligent townie not given a shit about scumhunting or making cases.

Additionally later when you after ages bring up your theory. You come up with the WORST and MOST UNLIKELY possible theory for scumbuddies that only makes it seem like you're not reading the thread. Ghor have been sharper with his comments on me then anyone else in the thread. And additionally I am just about the most active player in the game.

The only possible explanations are you're scum or a townie who's not putting in any time in the game. But then why haven't you come clean and admitted you haven't given a shit about the game because that is the only other possible explanation I might had believed. But even with that your egging on posts doesn't make sense.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 03 2013 16:27 GMT
#366
tell you what, make the case on sylencia you said you might and I'll comment on that. At present Sylencia is third in line to 1-risk.nuke and 2-Ghor.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 03 2013 16:30 GMT
#367
Ghor I've been reluctant to answer the Sylencia question because I didn't want to say I have a null-read on Sylencia. But that is what I feel, I want more from him to make up my mind. There are things I like about him and there are things I don't like about him.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 03 2013 16:31 GMT
#368
@risk, you barely made a case on me in the first place. You accuse me of not scumhunting based on 3 posts just hours into the game. Your follow-up is that I'm obvious scum and that this isn't town hopeless. My OMGUS is literally to replace "hopeless" with "risk", and my argument is as strong as the one you'd presented.

risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 03 2013 16:34 GMT
#369
I've been the most active player in the thread and half of the game have revolved around me.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 03 2013 16:37 GMT
#370
On April 04 2013 01:34 risk.nuke wrote:
I've been the most active player in the thread and half of the game have revolved around me.

which is a product of you being scum, and the thread being reluctant to believe so easily.

How is that alignment indicative?
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 03 2013 16:46 GMT
#371
On April 04 2013 01:37 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 01:34 risk.nuke wrote:
I've been the most active player in the thread and half of the game have revolved around me.

which is a product of you being scum, and the thread being reluctant to believe so easily.

How is that alignment indicative?

Because while I was the talk of the entire game I played pro-town by discussing and sharing my reads and put in effort to prevent a mislynch on me.

You're just coming back with weak shit. Where my reads showed the thread I was reading and caring about the game your reads prove you're not reading or caring about the game.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Ghor
Profile Joined March 2013
Russian Federation140 Posts
April 03 2013 16:50 GMT
#372
I already wrote stuff about sylencia, not really motivated to requote things from my own filter. Most of it revolves around his early post, his strange defense of risk (=risk did odd things, but scum risk too good to draw attention early, and many votes on risk make him feel bad about the push) and his denial to talk with me about risk at the timing where hopeless attacks me and sylencia slips away

His disinterest in milking his scumreads.
He never asks hopeless or cc a question or interacts with them when they are his scumreads.

His posts looks like he cares a lot about his image in the thread, he answers most people that mention him in negative ways, he looks very defensive, tries hard to not have a bad image instead of convincing others to lynch his scumreads.
He does not seem to make an effort in taking control of thread direction, only says who he wants to lynch, mostly not with much reasoning.

These are things not easy to make a case with. I could dissect his posts, but I think it's better if others checked it for themselves. Especially the timing stuff is hard to gain from the filter alone. You have to have developed a feeling of context for this, and you only gain that with involvement and reading everything, not just filter.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 03 2013 16:55 GMT
#373
I'm back. Did I miss anything BESIDES Hopeless trying to kill himself?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Ghor
Profile Joined March 2013
Russian Federation140 Posts
April 03 2013 16:57 GMT
#374
You missed that Sylencia is a guaranteed red flip.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 03 2013 17:00 GMT
#375
Yeah I did miss that.

I looked at Sylencia yesterday and decided I don't wanna lynch. Lazer even looked super scummy to me for his case. But I had missed your case and frankly now I'm not so sure where I stand on Sylencia.

Here's my problem with Sylencia. Sylencia seems to be lynchbait - has been mislynched repeatedly for (I think) similar reasons you cite. Why guaranteed red flip to you?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
April 03 2013 17:07 GMT
#376
On April 04 2013 01:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm back. Did I miss anything BESIDES Hopeless trying to kill himself?


I made case to Lynch the third scum kenpachi?
So not really.

Are you going to be here until Lynch/Hammer?

if so and you unvote, Hopeless Then I will vote him. Id like nap...

and has he has pointed out if I put him at L-1 he could self hammer...?
and i am way to tired to guess if he might or what that would mean.
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 03 2013 17:09 GMT
#377
Yes I can do that.

##Unvote

It would mean nothing other than he's done playing this game.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Ghor
Profile Joined March 2013
Russian Federation140 Posts
April 03 2013 17:09 GMT
#378
He plays very defensively. Talks a lot about what he does and why he does it, even when talking about his scumreads. The "look, I am doing this and that cause of this and that" type of thing.

I think townies are less self-centered, sylencia seems to be very concerned about his own image. His disinterest in lashing out at scumreads is another point that confirms that. Wants to lynch hopeless without interacting with him, ever, and says in advance that I still look bad if hopeless flips town, which is a strange thing to say. He already reevaluates the read on me before a flip that would give information, that sounds to me like he wants to push me no matter what.

I don't know if he's lynch bait, but I do not think that should be a barrier to lynch people who look scummy.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 03 2013 17:11 GMT
#379
On April 04 2013 02:09 Ghor wrote:
He plays very defensively. Talks a lot about what he does and why he does it, even when talking about his scumreads. The "look, I am doing this and that cause of this and that" type of thing.

I think townies are less self-centered, sylencia seems to be very concerned about his own image. His disinterest in lashing out at scumreads is another point that confirms that. Wants to lynch hopeless without interacting with him, ever, and says in advance that I still look bad if hopeless flips town, which is a strange thing to say. He already reevaluates the read on me before a flip that would give information, that sounds to me like he wants to push me no matter what.

I don't know if he's lynch bait, but I do not think that should be a barrier to lynch people who look scummy.


This is fair, I just don't see the scummy as clearly as you do. Concerned about his image...do you have examples or are you referring to how he responds to people who mention him negatively?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 03 2013 17:21 GMT
#380
Okay looking back, I have no idea who Syl thinks is scum outside of Ghor, and his actions regarding Cheese are confusing - he seemed to have Cheese as scum, but never mentioned him again until called out - at which point he's really wishywashy about how he even feels about Cheese (Hey I didn't say he's town!)

And because he like refuses to vote, I'm not even sure who his primary candidate is (though I can assume it's Ghor.)
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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