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TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 30 2013 19:09 GMT
#3649
Well another point against palmar is scum killed who he was suppose to check and then blocked his checker. That is fairly ahift since he didn't check cc anyways.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 30 2013 19:18 GMT
#3653
So, seeing as hwo you mentioned it WoS I feel the need to bring it up again when Palmar ignored the Qt, he did post this: "oh oats was always gonna flip town. I didn't really care much for reasons best left unexplained" Whch is looking more and more like a scum slip then it did before, when it looked pretty bad.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 30 2013 19:19 GMT
#3655
On May 01 2013 04:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 04:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
The final two scum were on a team with 3 inactives. Is it more likely that the remaining scum are hyperactive to kind of disassociate through perceived mindset differences or whatever, or that they're also lurking through De motivation or whatever?

I would say the latter. I think the last scum are going to be semilurky angry dudes. Palmar and yamato both fit this description.

Definitely gonna be some RNG rage after this game. VE I agree with you somewhat but I also worry that we've been tearing ourselves apart (with the help of a 3p who I'd argue MUST be active this game) and the 4/5 scum could be GiygaS/stutters or something stupid like that.

The more I think about it, the dumber a third party seems. We only have one night where a 3rd party kill was even possible, and its the same night vigis could shoot. Till we see more, not enough to go on.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 30 2013 19:20 GMT
#3656
On May 01 2013 04:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
Does that seem likely to you? Wanna lynch them before Palmar, yamato or BC?

Why is Ace not on this list VE?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 30 2013 19:43 GMT
#3658
On May 01 2013 04:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 04:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
Does that seem likely to you? Wanna lynch them before Palmar, yamato or BC?

Not necessarily since there's always that 'well why are they still alive' factor, amirite? We'll have to see where tonight takes us and continue to discuss until the flip. VE I will follow TRN's curiousity on this; what are your thoughts regarding Ace atm?

TRN I suppose it's possible for 3rd party not to be present this game but I find it unlikely; where does the 2nd night kill on N2 come from? Can you explain all the rbs/kills without the presence of 3rd party?

Mafia JOAT/2nd Vigi? We only have one kill to point at and it was when Vigis could shoot, not night 1.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 30 2013 19:48 GMT
#3660
On May 01 2013 04:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I would like to see Yamato and Ace as well as Palmar and BC engaged in Mortal Kombat.
I would also like to hear more from Stutters, on anything really.

You there! Substitute scate on through to the other side boy. What are your thoughts on these people and cases against them and why?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 30 2013 20:01 GMT
#3663
On May 01 2013 05:00 kushm4sta wrote:
what day is it?

You haven't been reading have you? Its night.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 30 2013 20:15 GMT
#3670
On May 01 2013 05:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
Guys the veterans fight it out. BC/Ace/Palmar, no-holds-barred cagematch. Loser takes yamato in a flame-war post-match to the death.

What do you think?

I would preferyou didn't try to play like ace, its unbecoming and did something useful like you tried to do the other day.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 30 2013 20:18 GMT
#3674
On May 01 2013 05:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 22:40 TheRavensName wrote:
On April 30 2013 22:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On April 30 2013 22:30 TheRavensName wrote:
On April 30 2013 22:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
OK so as I have been thinking recently.

We know there is one jailkeeper running around.
We know there are 3 dt claims(one now dead)
We know there is one mason still masoning, and one who is dead
We know we have 1 dead miller and 1 claimed miller(wos)
We know a mafia vig and a mafia framer are dead
We know a second rb happened n1. This means
a) palmar is lying
b) I am lying
c) An inactive town is a jailkeeper and has been mia for all nights since.

Given 2 millers, 1 framer. I find it extremely unlikely that we have two dts who have fucked up sanities. Insane is very easy to prove, as is insane. We know based on checks that obviousone is town, and palmar has a guilty check on him, I know I am town and he has a guilty check on me. Given that we have only been seeing 1 rb since n1 and joats can't rb as a power I am inclined to say Palmar is scum.

We know 100% that shiaopi is scum based on CC however I believe Palmar should be dealt with next at this time.

Who was the second RB night 1? I only recall seeing Palmar.


Me

Ah I see... Well that works then. Truth be told i think it fits a bit with how hes acted. Even the QT, which is probably kinda eh evidence, would lend to this: He wouldn't want to push a case that isn't being discussed actively as it would make him stand out too much no matter the flip. If he is 3rd party, he could have overlapped a shot with the mafia or taken a hit and claimed Roleblocked to safely explain both. Kinda surprised you didn't mention this before today though like on day 3 when we only had 1 roleblock and people were saying at least one cop had to be fake.


I claimed this day 2 -_-

I don't see where you specifically attack palmar on the basis of thinking his RB claim is bullshit. I see you bashing his play but not that specifically.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 30 2013 20:21 GMT
#3678
On May 01 2013 05:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
TRN I'm less than a little concerned about how you prefer I play this game. *smooches*

i know where those lips have been and I would like to request you didn't kiss me with them ever again.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 30 2013 21:03 GMT
#3700
On May 01 2013 05:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 05:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
OH PALMAR WHO'S YORU SCUMBUDDY? IS IT ARTANIS?

Make it real small so that only I can see it! Everyone will promise not to look right guys?

That'd be sick, we could have a sick back and forth going on where he calls you scum and I call you town and we derail the entire thread like that. I wish I was on a QT with Palmar now.

TRN, can you mason me next? I want to banter with him

You do realize if I mason you its just me and you right? Games with the always expanding mason list with everyone otgether is done with host controling who gets masoned/rnging it.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 30 2013 21:18 GMT
#3707
On May 01 2013 06:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 06:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 01 2013 05:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 01 2013 05:17 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On April 30 2013 23:26 Sharrant wrote:
I don't see a town jailer doing that, to be honest. My most likely scenario is:

N1:
Palmar jailed (seemed to be the towniest looking Vet in a lot of people's eyes)
BC RB'ed

N2:
Ace Jailed (Just lynched scum)
Either Ace also RB'ed or maybe RB on their shot (not sure if that messes with veteran orSK/SP protection in this game.)

N3
??? Jailed
VE RB'ed

I will be considering VE confirmed town because of this. The exception is if it was a town jailer who jailed BC, Ace was double jailed, and the jailer did not think the plan through and decided to VE because... terrible reasoning? It seems like a stretch to think of this as two town jailers.

But I would wager that Palmar and Ace were both town jailed. I guess it remains to be seen if there's another roleblocked player. But a town jailer jailing VE just does not make sense to me.


This post doesn't make sense. The only way to be roleblocked in this game is to be jailed. IE for me to be roleblocked n1 requires me being jailed. As it would with Palmar.

N2 we only had ace rb'ed and VE on n3. These all count as protections as well. I find it extremely unlikely that one jailkeeper is so inactive to not send in their power use for two night periods. Given that I doubt BH would be so much of an ass to not let mafia control an inactive member of their teams powers it means a town jailer has been mia 99% of the game or one of Palmar and I is lying about n1. I know what my pms say thus I say palmar and if he lied about that he sure as hell is lying about his claim.

Or scum JOAT, as TRN and I discussed. That would fulfill the possibility that neither of you is lying.


Except according to the OP JOATs can't roleblock.

OOOO interesting; you're right. This means if we don't have 3p with KP then scum JOAT hasn't used their 2nd night power?

Well no, we just don't have proof of them using their 2nd power.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 30 2013 21:20 GMT
#3710
On May 01 2013 06:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 06:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 01 2013 06:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also guys at what point are we going to discuss the viability of TRN as a lynch candidate considering we've flipped a town masoner already? Because I was waiting until more scum flipped, and it seems like now is a good time to bring up the subject.

Considering the possibility of 3 fucking dts isn't completely off the table (or at least the possibility that one of you didn't actually lie) I'd believe it. I dunno I've had Raven as town all game---do you have something else to go on?

Not really, just spitballin. We haven't flipped a repeat blue role yet - not saying we won't or can't, just that we haven't that I'm aware of.

Maybe I add TRN to my list of people to look over tonight. Might as well right?

Sure, why not? May want to hurry with that though, its quite likely your going to die for being the believable cop alive.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 30 2013 21:29 GMT
#3718
On May 01 2013 06:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
We don't have enough kills for there to be an SK or poisoner do we? I mean, they oculd have been hiding it on likely medic protects or something, but both SK and poisoner are compulsive and we've gone a couple nights with 1 kill right?

3rd Party pierce protection.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 30 2013 21:31 GMT
#3722
On May 01 2013 06:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 06:29 TheRavensName wrote:
On May 01 2013 06:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
We don't have enough kills for there to be an SK or poisoner do we? I mean, they oculd have been hiding it on likely medic protects or something, but both SK and poisoner are compulsive and we've gone a couple nights with 1 kill right?

3rd Party pierce protection.


except jailkeeping protection


Oh really? Huh... Well it still pierces medic protectio.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 30 2013 21:36 GMT
#3725
I got another exam starting in about twenty minuts, so I'm going to have to treck across campus in about 15, so any questions before I go for another two hours?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 30 2013 21:37 GMT
#3727
On May 01 2013 06:36 Ace wrote:
I was roleblocked again last night and its def possible I've been shot at a few times.

Your a little late on claiming this arn't you?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 30 2013 21:40 GMT
#3730
On May 01 2013 06:39 Ace wrote:
I just got home. My only other chance was being when I was here late night and voted Shiao and I went to bed immediately after. I dont see the problem with it.

You didn't post it then why?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 30 2013 21:41 GMT
#3733
On May 01 2013 06:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh wait there's not. These fast days fucking with my head.

Where does this statement go quoted with?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 30 2013 21:42 GMT
#3735
On May 01 2013 06:40 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 06:36 Ace wrote:
I was roleblocked again last night and its def possible I've been shot at a few times.

So anyone really pushing to lynch you might be mafia if you're not since they can't seem to shoot you.

Also whoever is jailing Ace, keep it up forever.

O'Doyle rules.

How can you just believe a jail claim that only comes up after hes being discussed during the next night phase when hes being discussed as a mafia suspect? And if hes the 2nd jail target, were short one somewhere and that shit doesn't add up.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
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