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On April 13 2013 11:42 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2013 11:08 Keirathi wrote:
Something I've been pondering:
BM says his role was renamed to Injustice Vig. What does that imply?
A justice vig can only shoot scum, or he dies. Can an Injustice Vig only shoot town, or he dies? If he's town, that's a terrible "character theme" power. But it could make the JV role pickable for scum, if they were thorough enough to ask about it before the picking phase ended. Thats the biggest bunch of WIFOM malarkey I have read this game.
It's not WIFOM, it's speculation.
Something is weird about BM, you can't deny that.
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Ok, so Kei, can you understand why I could be suspicious of you?
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On April 13 2013 11:59 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2013 11:42 Mocsta wrote:On April 13 2013 11:08 Keirathi wrote:
Something I've been pondering:
BM says his role was renamed to Injustice Vig. What does that imply?
A justice vig can only shoot scum, or he dies. Can an Injustice Vig only shoot town, or he dies? If he's town, that's a terrible "character theme" power. But it could make the JV role pickable for scum, if they were thorough enough to ask about it before the picking phase ended. Thats the biggest bunch of WIFOM malarkey I have read this game. It's not WIFOM, it's speculation. Something is weird about BM, you can't deny that.
It is, but I investing time to ponder that situation is ridiculous.
I put in a lot of time yesterday going through his filter, to come to the conclusion.
If BM wasnt JV; as town, he would call out Yam as lying.
So either, both are town; or both are scum.
So i find the endeavor pointless because we all know, the JV role is self-fulfilling. We will know Day 2 which of the above 2 possibilities is validated.
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So mocsta, what did you think of my points?
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On April 13 2013 12:02 geript wrote:
Ok, so Kei, can you understand why I could be suspicious of you?
Of course I can.
I said so in my filter like 2 days ago.
But you only got suspicious of me because I refuse to call you confirmed town and argued with you about sn0. So lol.
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On April 13 2013 12:04 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2013 11:59 Keirathi wrote:On April 13 2013 11:42 Mocsta wrote:On April 13 2013 11:08 Keirathi wrote:
Something I've been pondering:
BM says his role was renamed to Injustice Vig. What does that imply?
A justice vig can only shoot scum, or he dies. Can an Injustice Vig only shoot town, or he dies? If he's town, that's a terrible "character theme" power. But it could make the JV role pickable for scum, if they were thorough enough to ask about it before the picking phase ended. Thats the biggest bunch of WIFOM malarkey I have read this game. It's not WIFOM, it's speculation. Something is weird about BM, you can't deny that. It is, but I investing time to ponder that situation is ridiculous. I put in a lot of time yesterday going through his filter, to come to the conclusion. If BM wasnt JV; as town, he would call out Yam as lying. So either, both are town; or both are scum. So i find the endeavor pointless because we all know, the JV role is self-fulfilling. We will know Day 2 which of the above 2 possibilities is validated.
It becomes less self-fullfilling when he claims he doesn't have to shoot every night. And claims that he isn't called a Justice Vigilanted, but is called an Injustice Vigilante. I wasn't making that shit up, but you apparently missed that part of the thread because you came back AFTER HE CLAIMED wondering why he didn't claim yet.
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I saw he called himself Injustice Vig.
U want me to burn a check on him instead then?
Mine is role check after all.
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That might be a good idea, no?
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Oh, I misremembered exactly what you said:
On April 12 2013 20:40 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 11:19 Caller wrote:Alright guys just kidding we kill ObviousOne. I threw the vote on artanis because mafia love bandwagons. Now that we've gotten one, it seems pretty obvious to me that people we should be looking for are on the lower parts of the bandwagon list. But not the last one. Given that, who we we have? + Show Spoiler + Oatsmaster ##Vote: Artanis As a rule I usually try to lynch the 3rd or 4th person on the bandwagon. Since I was the 3rd person on the bandwagon, that leaves Monsieur Oatsmaster as a rather fishy hanger-on to the bandwagon. I already made a case on why I wanted to lynch him, but I don't see him as a threat right now. Still keep dis in mind plox. Meapak_Ziphh Vote: Artanis[XP] Meapak_Ziphh? Who knows. I don't care enough right now to find out. deconduo ##Vote: Shelvocke Null tell. Vivax ##Vote Sno_Man Null tell. Artanis[Xp] ##Vote: Shelvocke I don't really know what Artanis is due to lack of effort, but this follow-on vote to deconduo is pretty scummy. Palmar ##Vote Artanis[Xp] :| Shelvocke ##Vote Artanis[Xp] ah, the typical OMGUS. Normally could be a townie war, except that this is a bandwagon. Very Scummy. Keirathi ##Unvote Hmm. You want to make my life interesting, do you? 8 times out of 10 that I see this, it is a mafia trying to get town cred for not voting for obvious day 1 townie lynch. Vewy Intewesting. ObviousOne ##Vote Artanis[XP] Ah, and we get to the core of the matter. This guy has done nothing but throw ambivalency around. Yet now he's so sure that he will hop-on the bandwagonn. If you were really not sure about this and you were town, you'd be like "HANG ONS GUYS I THINKS HE MIGHT BE OKAY" and then watch helplessly as the bandwagon gains infinite momentum and lynches innocent townie #1. But nope, instead you're like "but wait guys i read his meta and came out with some random conclusions that don't actually mean anything because meta is stupid especially among players that have played this game more than three days." I actually went ahead and read his filter for those games, and I think that your conclusions are bullshit that can easily be construed as whatever you want.. Given that he explicitly stated that as mafia he would be "next time" more involved, but that he simply got lost due to large amount of posts, do you expect any credence that his behaving similar to the previous game is any true indication of his alignment this game? No. You shouldn't. And it's a dumb reason for going on a dumb bandwagon, but it makes you look nice! VOTE THIS GUY. yamato77 ##Vote Artanis I'm fairly satisfied that yamato is town as it stands. I'll still jump on him in a heartbeat but I don't think he's mafia. Restraining Order ##Vote: Artanis Strangely enough, I think RO is town. Are you gonna get a reason for it? Nope. Why the fuck would "scum" caller try to divert the lynch from "assassin" artanis to "cpr medic" ObviousOne. The only benefit of assassin is day kill; CPR doesnt need role claim, so its possibly more valuable. Caller was town. Full Stop.BM is certainly not JusticeVig. He still *may* be town. Yamato is 100% confirmed scum. Why?Palmar makes sense as emperor; and Rayn was too high up the draft to risk it all on the dreamflower. Now we know BM is not JV; how is Yam a VT. Simple.. he is not. ]
That was the weird post, because BM already hard claimed JV. I guess you did decide later that he was JV.
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On April 13 2013 12:15 Mocsta wrote:
I saw he called himself Injustice Vig.
U want me to burn a check on him instead then?
Mine is role check after all.
Not necessary.
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On April 13 2013 12:18 Keirathi wrote:Oh, I misremembered exactly what you said: Show nested quote +On April 12 2013 20:40 Mocsta wrote:On April 08 2013 11:19 Caller wrote:Alright guys just kidding we kill ObviousOne. I threw the vote on artanis because mafia love bandwagons. Now that we've gotten one, it seems pretty obvious to me that people we should be looking for are on the lower parts of the bandwagon list. But not the last one. Given that, who we we have? + Show Spoiler + Oatsmaster ##Vote: Artanis As a rule I usually try to lynch the 3rd or 4th person on the bandwagon. Since I was the 3rd person on the bandwagon, that leaves Monsieur Oatsmaster as a rather fishy hanger-on to the bandwagon. I already made a case on why I wanted to lynch him, but I don't see him as a threat right now. Still keep dis in mind plox. Meapak_Ziphh Vote: Artanis[XP] Meapak_Ziphh? Who knows. I don't care enough right now to find out. deconduo ##Vote: Shelvocke Null tell. Vivax ##Vote Sno_Man Null tell. Artanis[Xp] ##Vote: Shelvocke I don't really know what Artanis is due to lack of effort, but this follow-on vote to deconduo is pretty scummy. Palmar ##Vote Artanis[Xp] :| Shelvocke ##Vote Artanis[Xp] ah, the typical OMGUS. Normally could be a townie war, except that this is a bandwagon. Very Scummy. Keirathi ##Unvote Hmm. You want to make my life interesting, do you? 8 times out of 10 that I see this, it is a mafia trying to get town cred for not voting for obvious day 1 townie lynch. Vewy Intewesting. ObviousOne ##Vote Artanis[XP] Ah, and we get to the core of the matter. This guy has done nothing but throw ambivalency around. Yet now he's so sure that he will hop-on the bandwagonn. If you were really not sure about this and you were town, you'd be like "HANG ONS GUYS I THINKS HE MIGHT BE OKAY" and then watch helplessly as the bandwagon gains infinite momentum and lynches innocent townie #1. But nope, instead you're like "but wait guys i read his meta and came out with some random conclusions that don't actually mean anything because meta is stupid especially among players that have played this game more than three days." I actually went ahead and read his filter for those games, and I think that your conclusions are bullshit that can easily be construed as whatever you want.. Given that he explicitly stated that as mafia he would be "next time" more involved, but that he simply got lost due to large amount of posts, do you expect any credence that his behaving similar to the previous game is any true indication of his alignment this game? No. You shouldn't. And it's a dumb reason for going on a dumb bandwagon, but it makes you look nice! VOTE THIS GUY. yamato77 ##Vote Artanis I'm fairly satisfied that yamato is town as it stands. I'll still jump on him in a heartbeat but I don't think he's mafia. Restraining Order ##Vote: Artanis Strangely enough, I think RO is town. Are you gonna get a reason for it? Nope. Why the fuck would "scum" caller try to divert the lynch from "assassin" artanis to "cpr medic" ObviousOne. The only benefit of assassin is day kill; CPR doesnt need role claim, so its possibly more valuable. Caller was town. Full Stop.BM is certainly not JusticeVig. He still *may* be town. Yamato is 100% confirmed scum. Why?Palmar makes sense as emperor; and Rayn was too high up the draft to risk it all on the dreamflower. Now we know BM is not JV; how is Yam a VT. Simple.. he is not. ] That was the weird post, because BM already hard claimed JV. I guess you did decide later that he was JV.
I dotn know what he is. Will find out when this cycle is over.
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Day 3
i am dead
sn0_man as Margaret Thompson is also dead (Town Inventor)
Meapak_Ziphh as Al Capone is dead too (Town America)
The Holy Hand Grenade has been invented.
48 hours, 12KST day ends, sorry for the delay
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I'm feeling a nuke on BM incoming
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oh wait... 
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I checked BM.
He is scum.
##Vote: Bill Murray
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Well that makes this easy...
Throw the Holy Hand Grenade at Bill Murray
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Kills him if he's not town otherwise...
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Event
Bill Murray as Richard Harrow was killed. (Mafia Injustice Vigilante)
see you later i am sleepy and goats
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