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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-19 12:28:12
March 19 2013 12:27 GMT
#16
/in

My team will lose, consider that in the balance considerations.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 19 2013 12:30 GMT
#18
On March 18 2013 07:08 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 06:41 Nisani201 wrote:
How many people will be in this game?

Will be away for Friday and Saturday, if the game starts after that then I'll probably accept.

Around 15, We might start next week - Monday for an example.

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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 19 2013 12:40 GMT
#20
OKAY
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-19 18:13:27
March 19 2013 18:12 GMT
#30
red team is actually blu team.

Daaaaaaaaaaym.

Obzy is the observer of observers.
He has been here before the dawn of time.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 22 2013 01:06 GMT
#58
You can only sit out one game at a time.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 24 2013 19:53 GMT
#76
My money's on thrawn.

On March 25 2013 04:35 yamato77 wrote:
Why would I smurf?

Why WOULDNT you?
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 25 2013 23:05 GMT
#100
Dam son I rolled a sick role.

Love it.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 25 2013 23:06 GMT
#104
On March 26 2013 08:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What's with the ninja vote marv?

he scum
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 25 2013 23:07 GMT
#105
On March 26 2013 08:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What's with the ninja vote marv?

Also, your name is too complacted and I already call you rainpelikan in my mind, so you're now stuck with that.

It's offical, and won't be changed.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 25 2013 23:10 GMT
#107
On March 26 2013 08:09 Hapahauli wrote:
2) My name is Hapa.

On March 26 2013 08:09 Hapahauli wrote:

Hi thar, pink unicorn.

Or maybe your parents really called you Hapa, in which case, my condolences.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 25 2013 23:12 GMT
#109
What a scummy bandwagon of scum.

Hey Acro, come over here. Let's tunnel marv. It'll be fun.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 25 2013 23:23 GMT
#114
On March 26 2013 08:19 cDgCorazon wrote:
Rayn goes back to the shadows when he is called out on his argument.

Why are you scummy Rayn?

Is he, though?

Maybe that's all just in your head.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 25 2013 23:25 GMT
#116
On March 26 2013 08:24 cDgCorazon wrote:
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On March 26 2013 08:23 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 26 2013 08:19 cDgCorazon wrote:
Rayn goes back to the shadows when he is called out on his argument.

Why are you scummy Rayn?

Is he, though?

Maybe that's all just in your head.


Maybe this is all in our head.

I know what's in mine and you're not in it.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 25 2013 23:26 GMT
#118
[QUOTE]On March 26 2013 08:25 Hapahauli wrote:
[QUOTE]On March 26 2013 08:22 sinani206 wrote:
Hello everyone, looks like an action-packed first hour of play. I am posting in prplhz's one hour time limit to not get lynched, as dying day 1 is not fun.[Quote]

Did you really think he was serious about that?

[quote]The conversation on this page with the 3 statements, 2 are true thing looks pretty useless, and maybe even scummy.[/QUOTE]

How is it useless/scummy to get discussion going? Like I totally hate Obvious right now as well, but for different reasons. [/QUOTE]
Maybe cuz he's trying to be brown even tho personality is over.

hint hint.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 25 2013 23:27 GMT
#121
On March 26 2013 08:26 Hapahauli wrote:
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On March 26 2013 08:22 sinani206 wrote:
Hello everyone, looks like an action-packed first hour of play. I am posting in prplhz's one hour time limit to not get lynched, as dying day 1 is not fun.


Did you really think he was serious about that?

Why wouldn't he be?

That's how I plan on finding scum.

The scum besides marv, that is.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 25 2013 23:28 GMT
#123
On March 26 2013 08:27 Hapahauli wrote:
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Maybe cuz he's trying to be brown even tho personality is over.

hint hint


Didn't read personality.... wat?

wat wat?

hes doing a chez impersonisation even tho he doesn't have to.
I question the wisdom of that decision.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 25 2013 23:29 GMT
#124
cuz you know, in personality you play other people. And shit.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 25 2013 23:36 GMT
#128
On March 26 2013 08:30 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 26 2013 08:28 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 26 2013 08:27 Hapahauli wrote:
Maybe cuz he's trying to be brown even tho personality is over.

hint hint


Didn't read personality.... wat?

wat wat?

hes doing a chez impersonisation even tho he doesn't have to.
I question the wisdom of that decision.


I'm curious how you find yourself in the position to question the wisdom of anything, given you know how Personality went down, and the fact you seem intent on needlessly provoking me at the start of this game. If you're town, that's pretty evidently not a 'wise' decision.

How can you question my wisdom then?
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 25 2013 23:37 GMT
#129
On March 26 2013 08:30 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 26 2013 08:28 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 26 2013 08:27 Hapahauli wrote:
Maybe cuz he's trying to be brown even tho personality is over.

hint hint


Didn't read personality.... wat?

wat wat?

hes doing a chez impersonisation even tho he doesn't have to.
I question the wisdom of that decision.


I'm curious how you find yourself in the position to question the wisdom of anything, given you know how Personality went down, and the fact you seem intent on needlessly provoking me at the start of this game. If you're town, that's pretty evidently not a 'wise' decision.

I don't see how I'm supposed to be provoking you either, I'm just calling you scum.

If you get mad cause I'm so correct and awesome, not much I can do about that.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 25 2013 23:40 GMT
#130
[image loading]
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 25 2013 23:42 GMT
#132
On March 26 2013 08:42 sinani206 wrote:
Can we talk about something that people who didn't play personality can understand please?

You're free to bring up any topic you like.

I don't see anything holding you back.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 26 2013 00:13 GMT
#142
On March 26 2013 09:09 cDgCorazon wrote:
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On March 26 2013 09:08 sinani206 wrote:
On March 26 2013 09:07 cDgCorazon wrote:
On March 26 2013 09:04 sinani206 wrote:
On March 26 2013 09:00 Keirathi wrote:
Friends. Romans. Countrymen. Lend me your ears.

The hour of the scum is past. It is OUR time now. Let us take what is rightfully ours. This world is full of liars and deceivers. We must root them out, flay the skin from their bodies, and show the whole world that no one dare trifle with us.

We. Are. Legion.

P.S. If any man dies with a clean sword, I will fuck your corpse.

P.P.S: What the hells is this?

On March 26 2013 08:22 sinani206 wrote:
Hello everyone, looks like an action-packed first hour of play. I am posting in prplhz's one hour time limit to not get lynched, as dying day 1 is not fun. The conversation on this page with the 3 statements, 2 are true thing looks pretty useless, and maybe even scummy.


Nothing is "maybe" scummy. It either is, or it isn't. Which is it?


Considering Obvious decided to "introduce" himself, and then leave, apparently without reading his role PM, it is.


Do you really believe Obvious didn't read his role pm?


If he didn't he's lying about lying, which is pretty dumb.


It's null right now. I don't believe it but right now the non-reading role PM claim is null to me.

But you heavily imply you don't believe he's not read it.

If that is the case, you shouldn't lean null, you should lean scum.
cuz It's null to not read it.
but It's scum to lie about it.

So you think he's lying, but without the calling-scum part.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 26 2013 00:14 GMT
#143
On March 26 2013 09:12 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 08:12 Dandel Ion wrote:
What a scummy bandwagon of scum.

Hey Acro, come over here. Let's tunnel marv. It'll be fun.

My name is Acro and I am a Vanilla Townie.

Marv, however, is scum!

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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 26 2013 00:26 GMT
#149
On March 26 2013 09:24 Keirathi wrote:
Acro, I think you are misunderstanding what's being said. No one is arguing that its bad play not to read your role PM.

Dandel said "If obvious read his PM, then came to the thread and said he didn't, then he's a liar therefore scum", and Grack asked what the scum motivation for doing that was.

No, I was saying that should be his (Cora's) reasoning.

I'm gullible and actually believe people when they say they don't read their role.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 26 2013 00:30 GMT
#153
On March 26 2013 09:28 Nisani201 wrote:
I highly doubt that there are people who haven't read their role PMs.

1) post "I haven't read my role PM"
2) actually read your role PM right after saying that
3) it's not a lie and you you still know your alignment

I had thought everybody does it like that....
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 26 2013 01:34 GMT
#193
On March 26 2013 10:31 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 10:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And given that you don't (at least you should not) know prplhz's alignment how exactly is it not beneficial to see how he reacts to the case first?

No. There is NEVER a reason to allow bad reasoning to run rampant in the thread.

That's such a generalization.
I'd say it borders on discrimination. Not every Bad Logic is a dirty illegal immigrant, even though they all speak and look like dumb.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 26 2013 01:38 GMT
#195
On March 26 2013 10:34 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 10:16 Acrofales wrote:
On March 26 2013 08:09 Hapahauli wrote:
On March 26 2013 08:05 ObviousOne wrote:
Hi guys! I'm ObviousOne!

Since some of us are strangers I think we should get to know one another a little better.

Let's introduce ourselves to each other! List three things, only let two of them true!

1. I have a list of my games in my profile.
2. I have played newbie games on TL.
3. I have read my role PM.


1) I policy lynch people who don't read their role PM because it's incredibly anti-town.
2) My name is Hapa.
3) I am a pink unicorn.

##Vote ObviousOne


Wait. This is something I do NOT understand. Why is not reading your role PM anti-town? It is stupid. Yes. But:

If town, you are, at worst, missing out on a blue role. Given that town should never rely on blue roles (they are helpful, but what should win the game for town is the lynch) and assuming you play as a townie, if you haven't read your role PM, you are still contributing your most important contribution to town.

If scum, you are not town. Therefore, if you are playing like a townie, you are (potentially) playing against your own wincon. That is fucking fantastic for town. The downside, of course, is that you are not playing like scum, and it is therefore hard for townies to find you. But a D1 policy lynch sounds pretty stupid.

If 3P, you are not town, so if you are playing like a townie, that is great for town, and possibly not so great for you (depending on wincon)

Therefore, if Hapa BELIEVES OO is not reading his role PM, then he should NOT be trying to lynch him. The reason for wanting to lynch someone who claims not to have read his role PM, is because you don't believe him (and the only reason to lie about not having read your role PM is because you're scum trying to spread chaotic misinformation).

Hapa should know this. Hapa, explain why you are policy voting OO?


Sure it is.

It means that you can post without being held accountable for anything that you post. It provides a ton of misleading information and promotes people trolling for the hell of it. I've had to deal with this in the last few games I've played and quite frankly I'm sick of it.

I detect unnecessarily large quantities of mad.

Might be colored in red. Or purple. Maybe a dash of yellow in there.
Can not be sure yet.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 26 2013 01:44 GMT
#199
On March 26 2013 10:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 10:34 Keirathi wrote:
On March 26 2013 10:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And given that you don't (at least you should not) know prplhz's alignment how exactly is it not beneficial to see how he reacts to the case first?

Because it doesn't matter a single bit how he reacts because the case was built on false information. Hell, if I was scum, I would love nothing more than for someone to make a case on me that I could so easily refute just by posting a few quotes from my previous games that wouldn't even be hard to find.

The point of making "cases" isn't to convince the person they are scum. They are to convince everyone else that someone is scum.

Plus, S&B was asking for opinions about his case.

The problem with meta in this prplhz case is that it's the easiest thing in the world to fake. Even the dumbest idiot could probably fake their "town meta" by posting some general advice as their first post.

Other than that part, you are right.

It is entirely irrelevant how "easy" something is to do.

What matters are the hard things.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 26 2013 01:56 GMT
#205
On March 26 2013 10:54 Keirathi wrote:
##Vote: Palmar

Explain.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 26 2013 01:59 GMT
#210
On March 26 2013 10:58 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 10:56 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 26 2013 10:54 Keirathi wrote:
##Vote: Palmar

Explain.

What is there to explain? He randomly voted for someone for no reason, so I did too.

okay

let's form a line.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 26 2013 02:00 GMT
#212
On March 26 2013 10:58 Acrofales wrote:
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On March 26 2013 10:53 Palmar wrote:
Hello thread.

I have concluded that Grackaroni is scum. Please lynch him.

##Vote Grackaroni

I don't believe you.

##vote Palmar

I cancel my fusion dance.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 26 2013 02:01 GMT
#213
Palmar clearly modconfirmed town, dunno what you guys doing.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 26 2013 02:03 GMT
#221
On March 26 2013 11:02 Palmar wrote:
Okay let's play a game. There's one main reason why I think Grackaroni is scum, his filter is very short. Whoever can figure out why I think he's scum gets to be my second in command.

sry i dont read filters.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 26 2013 02:16 GMT
#227
All hail Palmer

Palmer!
Palmer!
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 26 2013 02:20 GMT
#230
NEWBIE CARD DETECTED
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 26 2013 02:21 GMT
#232
Lurking mode: ON

Only one can turn it OFF again
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 26 2013 12:28 GMT
#337
Smurf dude is scum and his case is a scum case.
He's not interested in figuring out my alignment, he's just interested in making me look like scum. Which is what scum do.
Cool thing about it is, since he won't get me lynched cause I'm so awesome (and also he won't try cause then my mislynch would be all on him and he scared), he has set up to have an easy "scumread" for the rest of the game, so he'll easily look like he's doing something for the ages to come!

Note how
1) his case is shit, and the scum kind of shit
2) he's not doing anything about it
3) he's not doing anything else

Hapa already answered the case for me, which is rad. Thanks for helping a brother out.
Not sure why you're so certain you can read me, given you read me 100% wrong in our last 2 games, but heeeey.


In other news, marv still scum (not sure why people think i'm trolling, this is srs read)
So is Keirathi

Oats stop being bad.

##Vote Smurfdude
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 26 2013 12:34 GMT
#341
On March 26 2013 21:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey Dandel, why do you think marv is scum?

Absence of towntells is the biggest reason.
Well apart from one really minor one, but that's easy to fake and I already know he's at least rudimentarily aware of it, so I can't read much into that one, realistically.

He's also not doing shit.

And on top of that I looked into his soul and it's red. I drew a picture of that result, too. For TRANSPERANCY
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 26 2013 12:37 GMT
#343
Also, I just noticed I will miss the deadline, so I'll probably just sheep Palmar in the end. Just putting that out there.

Funny thing is that then, what scumsmurf said about me sheeping palmar will be true, only 2 days later. It's still a lie atm.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 26 2013 12:38 GMT
#344
On March 26 2013 21:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 21:34 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 26 2013 21:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey Dandel, why do you think marv is scum?

Absence of towntells is the biggest reason.
Well apart from one really minor one, but that's easy to fake and I already know he's at least rudimentarily aware of it, so I can't read much into that one, realistically.

He's also not doing shit.

And on top of that I looked into his soul and it's red. I drew a picture of that result, too. For TRANSPERANCY


Come on, I used the 'marv doesnt look townie, therefore he is scum' argument in Duel. It wasnt true.

In all seriousness, who are your scumreads?

I just said that my reads are serious.
I dunno why you think they are not serious.


I'd like to point to Personality, where I identified the dude as town ~halfway into d1 or so, when I replaced in.
So obviously, my towntells actually work.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 26 2013 12:44 GMT
#348
On March 26 2013 21:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On March 26 2013 21:38 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 26 2013 21:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 26 2013 21:34 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 26 2013 21:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey Dandel, why do you think marv is scum?

Absence of towntells is the biggest reason.
Well apart from one really minor one, but that's easy to fake and I already know he's at least rudimentarily aware of it, so I can't read much into that one, realistically.

He's also not doing shit.

And on top of that I looked into his soul and it's red. I drew a picture of that result, too. For TRANSPERANCY


Come on, I used the 'marv doesnt look townie, therefore he is scum' argument in Duel. It wasnt true.

In all seriousness, who are your scumreads?

I just said that my reads are serious.
I dunno why you think they are not serious.


I'd like to point to Personality, where I identified the dude as town ~halfway into d1 or so, when I replaced in.
So obviously, my towntells actually work.

Thats not the point.
The point is that absence of town tells doesnt mean the existence of scum.
Which is proven by Duel.

I think they arent serious cause
1. You are dandel Ion
2. Marv isnt getting lynched day 1
3. You have to have more than 1 read right?

It is clearly a futile exercise to even try and explain anything to you.
So I'll stop trying to.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 26 2013 12:46 GMT
#350
On March 26 2013 21:42 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 21:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 26 2013 21:34 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 26 2013 21:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey Dandel, why do you think marv is scum?

Absence of towntells is the biggest reason.
Well apart from one really minor one, but that's easy to fake and I already know he's at least rudimentarily aware of it, so I can't read much into that one, realistically.

He's also not doing shit.

And on top of that I looked into his soul and it's red. I drew a picture of that result, too. For TRANSPERANCY


Come on, I used the 'marv doesnt look townie, therefore he is scum' argument in Duel. It wasnt true.

In all seriousness, who are your scumreads?

It was also completely wrong there, because Marv looked townie in Duel. But I still advocate prudence. Getting into a tunnelfest with Marv is not going to help town. A better argument is that he didn't look townie in MTG 2 and DI and I tunneled him into oblivion, when he was actually town.

DI, why are you convinced he's scum THIS game?

I have my reasons.

I know I'm not a cool enough kid to get him lynched d1, so I'm not going to talk much about marv anymore.
I may have to deal with him like I did in Themed, when it comes to it.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 26 2013 14:54 GMT
#400
I'm glad people see how scum Smurfdude is.

Cause that dude is scum. Guaranteed.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 26 2013 14:59 GMT
#405
On March 26 2013 23:53 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
No, I was specifically told that I ignored all of Dandel's town games, which I did not. Nor did I ever claim to be the authority on his meta, I simply found similarity between his most recent scum game and this game and drew a hasty conclusion that I have since seen as faulty.

Like I said, my experience with town Dandel is that he does make decent reads that have some sort of logic behind them. I had seen none of that at that point, so I made known my suspicion of him. The jury is still out on that one, but he looks better for having some reason for attacking Marv than he did before.

Horseshit.

You were doing this: "let's see how scum Dandel normally opens his games!
Oh my that looks similar to this game!
I won't even check any of his town games and call him scum just for the hell of it hey guys look how protown and scumhunting I am!"

Now you do this: "Oh shit I made a terrible case on a townie BACKPEDALBACKPEDAL"
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Dandel Ion
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March 26 2013 15:01 GMT
#407
On March 26 2013 23:56 Acrofales wrote:
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On March 26 2013 23:46 strongandbig wrote:
On March 26 2013 21:16 Acrofales wrote:
Because he takes some stuff which is not indicative of alignment at all and calls it scummy.


+ Show Spoiler [keirathi's case post] +
On March 26 2013 15:08 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, I'm much more interested in Grack right now.

I wasn't particularly awed by Palmar's vote/case and Hapa's input, but his interactions afterward have been much worse IMO.


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On March 26 2013 10:56 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 26 2013 10:53 Palmar wrote:
Hello thread.

I have concluded that Grackaroni is scum. Please lynch him.

##Vote Grackaroni

Any reason in particular?


He doesn't call out the bullshit vote. He panics, and questions it to figure out what he did wrong. I don't know any townie who reacts to a random vote on themselves by saying "OH GOD WHAT DID I DO?" Some get mad at the 'bad' play, some ignore it completely, and some vote the person back.

But, even more than that:

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On March 26 2013 11:24 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 26 2013 11:19 Palmar wrote:
If you're town I'm about to mislynch you grack. Do something to convince me you're not scum.

I really don't think you will. Give me something in the thread you want me to respond to and I will give you my opinion. (not much has stood out to me so far).

By the way I'm just curious. Do you remember me from any other games?

He's looking for a way out. He doesn't volunteer information, he wants to know what information Palmar wants, so that he can give the "right" answer, rather than a "real" answer.

And finally:

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On March 26 2013 11:37 Grackaroni wrote:
You are problably town. This is the most interest I've seen you take in scumhunting in a long time. (even though I haven't played recently I've tried to keep reading games.)

I can see why that post may have looked scummy. I didn't make my message clear and it looked like I wasn't giving any opinion. I intended for it to be directed at Sinani because I believe him using that as a reason to push the lynch onto OO is much scummier than OO actually not reading his role PM.

the only hesitation I have (and it's a small one) is that in Werewolves I walked into the pm chat and you (as scum) just said that I was scummy after one line and used pushing me as your way of contributing to the thread. (it's possible that you are looking for me to omgus in a fit of anger and dig my own grave)

Despite this hesitation I do believe your posting is townie and I think you want to scumhunt but some past experiences with you do scare me.


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On March 26 2013 12:56 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 26 2013 12:49 strongandbig wrote:
On March 26 2013 12:45 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't like the case on Dandel Ion. He seems to troll regardless of alignment so there's nothing in there that points to him being scum this game as opposed to just anti-town.

@ISH Why didn't you bother to look up a town game of Dandel Ion?


u scum bro?

No..... I know what you dislike. I didn't say anything about what I think of Dandel Ion or ISH in that post. But I wasn't intending to because I haven't drawn any conclusions on them from it. All i am saying is that I dislike the case and for good reason.


The bolded points feel like more "oh crap, I re-read my posts and realize I made some mistakes. Time for damage control". Like, he was already looking back at his posts to see how they LOOKED. His first reaction was to apologize for how they were perceived. THEN he explains himself better. It betrays his mindset of caring about his appearance.



How can you say that this stuff is not alignment indicative? "Caring more about looking townie than actually helping town" is like the *definition* of alignment indicative.

I'm seeing a lot I don't like from acro at the moment.

Also yeah I've been getting uber shat on but it would be cool if prplhz showed up sometime in the next few hours and posted some stuff. There's quite a lot that he could actually comment on now productively and without unnecessarily cluttering the thread again.


Because that's not at all the way I read those posts.

1.
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On March 26 2013 10:56 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 26 2013 10:53 Palmar wrote:
Hello thread.

I have concluded that Grackaroni is scum. Please lynch him.

##Vote Grackaroni

Any reason in particular?

Keirathi says this is a scummy response. I don't see why. Palmar places an unjustified vote, and Grack asks why. Null.

2.
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On March 26 2013 11:24 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 26 2013 11:19 Palmar wrote:
If you're town I'm about to mislynch you grack. Do something to convince me you're not scum.

I really don't think you will. Give me something in the thread you want me to respond to and I will give you my opinion. (not much has stood out to me so far).

By the way I'm just curious. Do you remember me from any other games?

By focusing only on the second sentence, Keirathi transforms the meaning imho. I read it as "BRING IT. Anything in particular you want to talk about?" This doesn't mean he won't talk otherwise. Anyway, insecure people looking for guidance from their town reads is not a scumtell.

Hence: null.

3. Admitting failure. Yeah, still not scum. It's simply an approach to playing the game. Seen plenty of townies, and scummers, do this. Null tell.

And that was the entirety of Keirathi's fantabulous case. Big fucking load of bunk.

I like u

But I still won't give you back the fusion dance. That has to be earned properly.
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Dandel Ion
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March 26 2013 15:10 GMT
#412
On March 27 2013 00:08 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
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On March 26 2013 23:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 26 2013 23:53 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
No, I was specifically told that I ignored all of Dandel's town games, which I did not. Nor did I ever claim to be the authority on his meta, I simply found similarity between his most recent scum game and this game and drew a hasty conclusion that I have since seen as faulty.

Like I said, my experience with town Dandel is that he does make decent reads that have some sort of logic behind them. I had seen none of that at that point, so I made known my suspicion of him. The jury is still out on that one, but he looks better for having some reason for attacking Marv than he did before.

Horseshit.

You were doing this: "let's see how scum Dandel normally opens his games!
Oh my that looks similar to this game!
I won't even check any of his town games and call him scum just for the hell of it hey guys look how protown and scumhunting I am!"

Now you do this: "Oh shit I made a terrible case on a townie BACKPEDALBACKPEDAL"

In my case on you I clearly said I expected better from you, Dandel. My experience from the first British and Personality is that you aren't just a troll, but as I see you just need time to flower.

And why did you need to make a shitty case to realize this "experience"?
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March 26 2013 15:18 GMT
#421
On March 27 2013 00:13 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
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On March 27 2013 00:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 27 2013 00:08 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
On March 26 2013 23:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 26 2013 23:53 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
No, I was specifically told that I ignored all of Dandel's town games, which I did not. Nor did I ever claim to be the authority on his meta, I simply found similarity between his most recent scum game and this game and drew a hasty conclusion that I have since seen as faulty.

Like I said, my experience with town Dandel is that he does make decent reads that have some sort of logic behind them. I had seen none of that at that point, so I made known my suspicion of him. The jury is still out on that one, but he looks better for having some reason for attacking Marv than he did before.

Horseshit.

You were doing this: "let's see how scum Dandel normally opens his games!
Oh my that looks similar to this game!
I won't even check any of his town games and call him scum just for the hell of it hey guys look how protown and scumhunting I am!"

Now you do this: "Oh shit I made a terrible case on a townie BACKPEDALBACKPEDAL"

In my case on you I clearly said I expected better from you, Dandel. My experience from the first British and Personality is that you aren't just a troll, but as I see you just need time to flower.

And why did you need to make a shitty case to realize this "experience"?

Because there are times when you call people out for posting like idiots at the start of the game, and this was one of them. I initially thought it might be alignment indicative but I've since been proven wrong. You can fault me for not doing more research, but I did think I was more familiar with you than I was.

Yes, in fact I do fault you for that. Thanks.
Your reasoning being "I'm dumb and arrogant at the same time" doesn't help at all.


Cora, I'm unimpressed. Very unimpressed.
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Dandel Ion
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March 26 2013 15:27 GMT
#429
On March 27 2013 00:20 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 27 2013 00:11 cDgCorazon wrote:

In all honesty this thread has still been ridiculously chaotic. After the tragedy that was Personality Mafia, I'm trying to only post when I have thoughts and cases to make. Right now we are just switching from one lynch target to the other and not really getting anything done besides calling each other scum. As much as the hosts love to troll, I don't think that they made everyone scum. Sorry guys.



I agree with you Dandel, although I'm not sure for the same reasons. This part of the post reads particularly weirdly to me; this is not my impression of the game so far at all. While we're still missing a few players posting in earnest, what we've had so far is actually pretty productive and cogent for this stage of the game.

That's a bad sign.

For either of us.

I hope you know that.
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Dandel Ion
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March 26 2013 16:43 GMT
#449
On March 27 2013 01:31 strongandbig wrote:
There needs to be more pressure on dandel ion.

Keeping the thread clear, readable, and coherent (AKA "not spamming") has been a major topic of discussion. It has reverberated in offhand comments, in the way players have said they are interacting with the game, and explicitly in pressure put on various players.

The only player to completely ignore this and keep to his "spammy meta" has been dandel. At this point, for him not to notice the difference between how he is interacting with the thread and how everyone else is would have to take a conscious effort.

The scum motivation for this is obvious. Long, unreadable, spammy threads hurt the town.

Dandel is choosing to play in a way that hurts town and helps scum. That's not okay.

Hey, I totally didn't post half the posts I originally wanted to post/typed out.
I'm trying really hard over here.
Go find scum. Your post is completely useless, and the hypocricy hurts my brain.
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Dandel Ion
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March 26 2013 16:46 GMT
#450
On March 27 2013 01:43 Dandel Ion wrote:
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On March 27 2013 01:31 strongandbig wrote:
There needs to be more pressure on dandel ion.

Keeping the thread clear, readable, and coherent (AKA "not spamming") has been a major topic of discussion. It has reverberated in offhand comments, in the way players have said they are interacting with the game, and explicitly in pressure put on various players.

The only player to completely ignore this and keep to his "spammy meta" has been dandel. At this point, for him not to notice the difference between how he is interacting with the thread and how everyone else is would have to take a conscious effort.

The scum motivation for this is obvious. Long, unreadable, spammy threads hurt the town.

Dandel is choosing to play in a way that hurts town and helps scum. That's not okay.

Hey, I totally didn't post half the posts I originally wanted to post/typed out.
I'm trying really hard over here.
Go find scum. Your post is completely useless, and the hypocricy hurts my brain.

I would also like to add that I tend to get mislynched if I don't spam, so I'm actually pro-town in doing it.

And my filter is barely 3 pages.
I mean, that's so little.
I really don't get your problem.
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Dandel Ion
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March 26 2013 16:51 GMT
#453
On March 27 2013 01:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On March 27 2013 01:46 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 27 2013 01:43 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 27 2013 01:31 strongandbig wrote:
There needs to be more pressure on dandel ion.

Keeping the thread clear, readable, and coherent (AKA "not spamming") has been a major topic of discussion. It has reverberated in offhand comments, in the way players have said they are interacting with the game, and explicitly in pressure put on various players.

The only player to completely ignore this and keep to his "spammy meta" has been dandel. At this point, for him not to notice the difference between how he is interacting with the thread and how everyone else is would have to take a conscious effort.

The scum motivation for this is obvious. Long, unreadable, spammy threads hurt the town.

Dandel is choosing to play in a way that hurts town and helps scum. That's not okay.

Hey, I totally didn't post half the posts I originally wanted to post/typed out.
I'm trying really hard over here.
Go find scum. Your post is completely useless, and the hypocricy hurts my brain.

I would also like to add that I tend to get mislynched if I don't spam, so I'm actually pro-town in doing it.

And my filter is barely 3 pages.
I mean, that's so little.
I really don't get your problem.


I would like to add that quoting your own posts makes it seem like you are talking to yourself, and that confuses me...
Lotta stuff has been thrown around but who is the n1 candidate people want to lynch?

ANYBODY?

See, snb, like that.

I already had a post written out that said
"I really don't think you need any incentive to be confused"

But then I decided that it was useless and didn't need posting so I didn't post it only now i post it so you know i could have posted it but decided against it even though i did in the end but only to make a point.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
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March 26 2013 18:26 GMT
#477
On March 27 2013 02:38 Acrofales wrote:
Some updates.

I like Smurf's more recent participation. Pressure on Cora feels good. Still don't like his stance on DI, and it depends on how good a player Smurf is, whether this is something that can be excused, or is an obvious scumtell. I want to know who he is.


It's yamato.
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Dandel Ion
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March 26 2013 19:22 GMT
#491
On March 27 2013 04:14 strongandbig wrote:
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On March 27 2013 01:59 marvellosity wrote:
On March 27 2013 01:57 strongandbig wrote:
On March 27 2013 01:36 marvellosity wrote:
On March 27 2013 01:31 strongandbig wrote:
There needs to be more pressure on dandel ion.

Keeping the thread clear, readable, and coherent (AKA "not spamming") has been a major topic of discussion. It has reverberated in offhand comments, in the way players have said they are interacting with the game, and explicitly in pressure put on various players.

The only player to completely ignore this and keep to his "spammy meta" has been dandel. At this point, for him not to notice the difference between how he is interacting with the thread and how everyone else is would have to take a conscious effort.

The scum motivation for this is obvious. Long, unreadable, spammy threads hurt the town.

Dandel is choosing to play in a way that hurts town and helps scum. That's not okay.


What 'pressure' do you propose exactly? He's either mafia or he is not mafia. Whether you approve of his play or not, do you think he's mafia? If so, why? If not, what are you trying to achieve here?


Right now, I'm null on his alignment. I want him to change the way he's posting. The longer he continues without changing it, the more likely that he's doing it because he's scum trying to mess up our thread. So the 'pressure' is less of a "I SAY YOU ARE MAFIA NOW REACT/DANCE FOR ME" and more of a "you are doing this thing that has a clear scum motivation and no town motivation, stop doing it or I will be forced to conclude you're doing it because of the scum motivation rather than without thinking about it."


"Your town meta is scummy and I will want to lynch you if you continue playing like you normally do as town"

ok s&b.


What's wrong with this logic?
Spam is bad for town.
Everyone else is making an effort to interact meaningfully with the thread rather than spam.
Why can't we ask him to change his methodology and play in a way that is better for town?

Why can't you look for actual scum instead? That'd be real good for town.

For all your big and "protown" words, you are not doing "better" in any way.
I wish people would stop being such hypocrites.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 26 2013 19:32 GMT
#499
Are nisani and sinani actually the same person, or buttbuddies or something like that?

that's vitally important for me to know and not a joke.
+ Show Spoiler +
I should start adding that last line to all my posts, mb it'd help.
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Dandel Ion
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March 26 2013 19:48 GMT
#505
On March 27 2013 04:45 Nisani201 wrote:
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On March 27 2013 04:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Nisani: Why does Smurf look town now?

He never looked scum. The case he made was scumbait, it didn't catch anyone, he backpedaled, and now he's contributing to the thread.

Well that's your interpretation and I gotta say, I disagree with it.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
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March 26 2013 19:56 GMT
#509
On March 27 2013 04:53 Palmar wrote:
I think reyn is town

yeah same, but I'm not as unhappy about it.
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Dandel Ion
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March 26 2013 20:06 GMT
#522
Don't y'all just love how pro-town snb is being right now?
Dude totally tries to find scum. totally.
pro-town guys.
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Dandel Ion
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Austria17960 Posts
March 26 2013 22:05 GMT
#585
On March 27 2013 06:51 Acrofales wrote:
Actually, the whole think-before-you-post thing is coming to me now. If Smurf is Yamato, then based on Personality 2, he should have some idea of how DI plays as town, and therefore his question is an insincere coverup for the shitty case.

That is a good point.

I "trolled" a bit less at my entrance in Personality, for reasons (mainly that I was replacing).

I am, however, still sure that smurf is both yamato and scum.
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Dandel Ion
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March 26 2013 22:07 GMT
#587
On March 27 2013 07:06 marvellosity wrote:
Dandel, how are you so sure it's yamato?

does it matter?
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Dandel Ion
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March 26 2013 22:11 GMT
#591
On March 27 2013 07:09 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 27 2013 07:07 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 27 2013 07:06 marvellosity wrote:
Dandel, how are you so sure it's yamato?

does it matter?


Yes, because knowing it was yamato would help my read on him, but as it is I'm not sure in the slightest it's him. So if it is, I'd like to know how/why you think so.

It'd be an awesome opportunity to free yourself from the shackles of meta though.

You could be free.
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Dandel Ion
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March 26 2013 22:20 GMT
#595
On March 27 2013 07:13 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 27 2013 07:11 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 27 2013 07:09 marvellosity wrote:
On March 27 2013 07:07 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 27 2013 07:06 marvellosity wrote:
Dandel, how are you so sure it's yamato?

does it matter?


Yes, because knowing it was yamato would help my read on him, but as it is I'm not sure in the slightest it's him. So if it is, I'd like to know how/why you think so.

It'd be an awesome opportunity to free yourself from the shackles of meta though.

You could be free.


I'm not looking on advice on how to play. Are you going to tell me or not?

That's not a good attitude bro.

You should always look to improve.


I guess that means I won't tell you. I only mentioned it because acro said something stupid about how he needs to know who smurfdude is to get a read - a ridiculous notion.

It's not really a meaningful topic to talk about - I think it's yam, that should be enough. Anything further is clutter.

You'll either take my "read" on his person as is, and if you don't, then you wouldn't if i explained it either.
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Dandel Ion
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March 26 2013 22:48 GMT
#606
On March 27 2013 07:35 Hapahauli wrote:
Btw, can we just end the "who is the smurf" stuff? It's the most pointless converation ever. I want to talk about scum-reads, and not htis crap.

That's what I'm saying.
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Dandel Ion
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March 26 2013 22:55 GMT
#610
So, about lynching smurf.

We should totally do it.
Sheep me.
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Dandel Ion
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March 27 2013 12:31 GMT
#828
Okay CAN WE FUCKING LYNCH SMURF NOW

Dude is obvious scum. I dunno why there's like no votes on him. wtf.
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Dandel Ion
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March 27 2013 12:32 GMT
#830
Also I won't be around for the deadline, so if y'all could decide now that we indeed lynch yamato, that'd be rad.
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Dandel Ion
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March 27 2013 12:36 GMT
#832
Alternatively, I could also lynch snb with pleasure.

I'm fine with prpl too.
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Dandel Ion
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March 27 2013 12:36 GMT
#833
Seriously, snb.

What a scummer.
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Dandel Ion
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March 27 2013 12:36 GMT
#834
On March 27 2013 21:36 Dandel Ion wrote:
Alternatively, I could also lynch snb with pleasure.

I'm fine with prpl too.

I should add "BUT I'D PREFER SMURF OR SNB"
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Dandel Ion
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March 27 2013 12:37 GMT
#835
On March 27 2013 21:36 Dandel Ion wrote:
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On March 27 2013 21:36 Dandel Ion wrote:
Alternatively, I could also lynch snb with pleasure.

I'm fine with prpl too.

I should add "BUT I'D PREFER SMURF OR SNB"

else it might sound confusing.
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Dandel Ion
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March 27 2013 12:45 GMT
#838
On March 27 2013 21:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On March 27 2013 21:37 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:31 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:19 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2013 20:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 20:26 Palmar wrote:
Strange the shot didn't get claimed huh?

I'd imagine both factions would want to take credit for the kill, seeing as I was putting pressure on Grack. Since no one claimed the shot I'm going to assume it's a scum-shot. I don't think any townie would be this stupid, and there is a clear scum motivation to shooting Grack.


Which is?

A townie motivation would be to use this lynch to lynch someone else instead of Grack and cause more discussion bla bla.

Scum motivation would be to cause confusion? I dont know, please elaborate


Grack was the preliminary lynch, rarely does the person put under pressure on day 1 actually end up on the chopping block. I could give you multiple examples of this. There is no proper townie motivation to shoot the dude who gets put under pressure early in the game.


So you didnt think he was scum?
You dont sound like you were gonna push Grack today.

Now who would you lynch after that weird nk?

And yeah with anonymous vig, scum probably shot but thats not really the point.


No no, at the time I thought Grack was scum, or he was my best read. But I also re-evaluate the actual lynch on the second half of day 2 every time I play. Again, if you want me to I can point you to multiple instances of this.


Lol meta eh?

So do you want to push Dandel Ion's target today? Or someone else?


I haven't decided.

Why are all the influential people so tightfisted with their reads. WHY? ??? ??
Dandel Ion, im sorry this doesnt include you. Or me. Or anyone except palmar and marv

I wish I was influential.. Then people would actually vote scum-mato.

And usually it just means that they don't have any. Super ez to just say e.g. "I HAVE A READ ON KEIRATHI!" and then not say what read it is so it sounds like you have a read when you really don't. pro plays.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
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March 27 2013 12:46 GMT
#839
btw I have tons of great and incredibly correct speculation about the grack daydeath.

But I won't tell anybody.
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Dandel Ion
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March 27 2013 12:46 GMT
#840
Now vote smurf.
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Dandel Ion
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March 27 2013 12:55 GMT
#843
On March 27 2013 21:53 Acrofales wrote:
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On March 27 2013 21:36 Dandel Ion wrote:
Alternatively, I could also lynch snb with pleasure.

I'm fine with prpl too.

No longer think Marv is scum? Explain.

It's still the truth that trying to lynch marv d1 is a futile effort because of the fanboy hordes. Not much changed there.
As I already said, I won't be around the ~5 hours leading up to the lynch, so even if I wanted to push him, I couldn't.

Whatcha thinking bout snb?
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Dandel Ion
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March 27 2013 12:59 GMT
#845
Also I'm glad I didn't share my awesome daydeath spec.

Acro, why are you pushing Palmar for being "insincere" or w/e, when you see yourself that it would be a really damn bad shot for scum to take, and the explaination for palmar shooting him pretty much only make sense from a town-palm standpoint.
You're blu hunting for no reason. If he did it and wanted to claim, he would have. If you (apparantly) think he's blu, what's the rationale in calling him out on it?
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Dandel Ion
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March 27 2013 13:11 GMT
#849
marv tell me why you think snb is town.
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Dandel Ion
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March 27 2013 13:16 GMT
#853
On March 27 2013 22:12 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 27 2013 22:11 Dandel Ion wrote:
marv tell me why you think snb is town.


I don't particularly

You call his early case scumbait. No sense scumbaiting as scum, is there.

In case you get all hairsplitting on me now, because you can't converse like a normal human being, let me ask differently: Why don't you think he's scum?
cuz he totally is.
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Dandel Ion
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March 27 2013 13:27 GMT
#862
On March 27 2013 22:22 Acrofales wrote:
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On March 27 2013 21:55 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:53 Acrofales wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:36 Dandel Ion wrote:
Alternatively, I could also lynch snb with pleasure.

I'm fine with prpl too.

No longer think Marv is scum? Explain.

It's still the truth that trying to lynch marv d1 is a futile effort because of the fanboy hordes. Not much changed there.
As I already said, I won't be around the ~5 hours leading up to the lynch, so even if I wanted to push him, I couldn't.

Whatcha thinking bout snb?

I think that SnB qualified his meta quite well:
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On March 26 2013 23:34 strongandbig wrote:
On March 26 2013 14:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 26 2013 14:15 Hapahauli wrote:
On March 26 2013 14:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Dudes.

Why are you ignoring SnB's horrible case on Prp?

##Vote: strongandbig


What makes it scummy as opposed to a stupid townie thing?


Because it was stupid and SnB isnt stupid.

Like somethings you can brush away by saying that this dude is dumb, but some you cant.

It looked like he wanted to try and mislynch prp and now its gone HORRIBLY WRONG.
So he disappears.

Insertsmurfhere is not scum I think although dandel is null for me.
(YAY RANDOM READS OUTTA NOWHERE)

So oats I'm glad you think I'm smart. I'm pretty good at atomic physics, it's true. Seven years ago I also got 36/36 on the ACT and 1600 on the real part of the SAT (fucking writing section). So okay suppose I'm smart.

Do you really think that means I can't make a bad case? Or that I can't think a case is good for reasons that other people disagree with? If you really want me to I can point you to past games where I've made cases that everyone else said were bad. I was town in those games. When I'm sum I don't make bad cases, I just don't make cases.

Do you really think I was settin up to "try to push a prplhz lynch" singlehandedly, in a game with people who have much more "mafia rep" than I do, and who have much more time to put in than I have? That doesn't sound like a "smart" thing to do.

(Pro tip if you look in my filter you can even find out what I was actually doing and why! Treasure hunt!)


While knowing his meta can mean he is changing his meta, as scum he has always been completely disengaged (except WLIIA where he played a pretty damned good scum game). So far I'm not getting that feeling from his filter.

Also regarding Smurf: I have no fucking clue what to say about Smurf at the moment. I thought his case on you was terrible, and it could be terrible scummy. However, he has continued to prove that he has no fucking clue on how to play this game. Does that make him scum? I don't know. Hopefully I'll figure it out soon, but for the moment:

et tu, brute

Fine, we'll lynch Nisani today and worry about Marv tomorrow.

I don't understand where you're going with your meta town(?) read on snb.

Protip: He ISN'T making any cases - not even really bad ones.
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Dandel Ion
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March 27 2013 13:31 GMT
#867
On March 27 2013 22:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On March 27 2013 22:25 Acrofales wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:51 Acrofales wrote:
On March 27 2013 11:01 marvellosity wrote:
Hi Acro, I need you to explain something for me. This in particular.

On March 27 2013 05:08 Acrofales wrote:

There are a bunch of people I think could be scum as well. Cora, Sinani and OO are currently vying for second spot. I just looked over OO's town meta in Fruity and LX and it is very different from his play this game. Far more engaged and discussing things with people, less over-analysing and vague reads.


I played in Fruity and Obvious made a grand total of about 10 posts on Day 1 there. Most of them trolling in a nonsensical fashion and in fact not engaging with people at all. I also found him scummy in LX on Day 1 (OO can verify this). You seem to be asserting the opposite, why?

Like... what the hell am I reading. You are defending Marv based on a meta read that he DIRECTLY contradicts. You can see Marv thinking this game is more similar because OO is more active here, when his OWN impression of Fruity was that OO was an inactive, unengaged troll.


Marv was questioning your meta read on OO from fruity and LX

Marv saw uninterested, scummy looking OO from Fruity and LX
You didnt.

He wanted to know where you are coming from, because he didnt see what you saw on day 1 of those games.


1. That's not what I asked.
2. You're not who I asked.
3. You haven't said what you think of Marv.

WHY THE FUCK DID YOU BOTHER MAKING THIS POST?


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March 27 2013 13:35 GMT
#870
Since we're now 15, we only need 8 people to lynch, correct?
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March 27 2013 14:44 GMT
#894
On March 27 2013 23:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On March 27 2013 23:36 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2013 23:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 23:30 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2013 23:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 23:21 Palmar wrote:
I can fight my own battles marv.

Oats, you're smarter than this. The shot was a scumshot, any townie would claim it by now. I doubt we have a multi-shot day-vig that also happens to be retarded enough to shoot early day 1.

So assume I'm scum, and explain to me the thought process behind the shot. I could've probably ridden the Grack lynch out the day as scum, and all this does is cast doubt on me as someone got shot based on an early read by me.

So the only logical scenario where I'm scum is that some random townie decided to test my read and proceed to not claim the shot.

Dudes are stupid in mafia, shit happens.

If you were a JOAT with a dayvig and you wanted to kill Grack.(I have extra info ^_^)
WHY IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD WOULD YOU CLAIM??

If you are scum with anonymous dayvig, WHY WOULD YOU SHOOT LYNCHBAIT INSTEAD OF MARV.
WHAT THE FUCK PALMAR.

WHY IS YOUR DEFENSE HINGING ON THE GRACK SHOT.


actually sure, that works. I forget that while a multi-shot day vig is OP a joat could work.

Whatever guess I'm scum in your eyes then. But who cares really.

Can you tell us how to proceed?


By lynching you, and by SnB answering my question and not being a dick.
Mostly SnB answering my question.
I dont like dickish behaviour.
grr.


You don't actually have to lynch me if you want me dead, that's a completely different issue.

Assume you cannot get me lynched, or well... since you cannot get my lynched, who else should we go after?

Why you gotta be so mean.

The problem is that I dont really have any strong scummy opinions on anyone else.

Now that I think about it, Acro in Personality was a lot more 'flowy'(went with the flow) than here so I dont really think he is scum even if he is rude.

Nisani seems like lynchbait/noob scum, do you want to try and change my mind?
Prp is town.

Umm.
yeah.

how about we lynch marv then.
he real rude and dickish always.
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March 27 2013 15:02 GMT
#908
On March 27 2013 23:59 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 27 2013 23:56 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2013 23:44 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 27 2013 23:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 23:36 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2013 23:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 23:30 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2013 23:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 23:21 Palmar wrote:
I can fight my own battles marv.

Oats, you're smarter than this. The shot was a scumshot, any townie would claim it by now. I doubt we have a multi-shot day-vig that also happens to be retarded enough to shoot early day 1.

So assume I'm scum, and explain to me the thought process behind the shot. I could've probably ridden the Grack lynch out the day as scum, and all this does is cast doubt on me as someone got shot based on an early read by me.

So the only logical scenario where I'm scum is that some random townie decided to test my read and proceed to not claim the shot.

Dudes are stupid in mafia, shit happens.

If you were a JOAT with a dayvig and you wanted to kill Grack.(I have extra info ^_^)
WHY IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD WOULD YOU CLAIM??

If you are scum with anonymous dayvig, WHY WOULD YOU SHOOT LYNCHBAIT INSTEAD OF MARV.
WHAT THE FUCK PALMAR.

WHY IS YOUR DEFENSE HINGING ON THE GRACK SHOT.


actually sure, that works. I forget that while a multi-shot day vig is OP a joat could work.

Whatever guess I'm scum in your eyes then. But who cares really.

Can you tell us how to proceed?


By lynching you, and by SnB answering my question and not being a dick.
Mostly SnB answering my question.
I dont like dickish behaviour.
grr.


You don't actually have to lynch me if you want me dead, that's a completely different issue.

Assume you cannot get me lynched, or well... since you cannot get my lynched, who else should we go after?

Why you gotta be so mean.

The problem is that I dont really have any strong scummy opinions on anyone else.

Now that I think about it, Acro in Personality was a lot more 'flowy'(went with the flow) than here so I dont really think he is scum even if he is rude.

Nisani seems like lynchbait/noob scum, do you want to try and change my mind?
Prp is town.

Umm.
yeah.

how about we lynch marv then.
he real rude and dickish always.


Except he isn't right now. Which is what worries me.

As marv himself recognized I'm taking the "sit back but watch" approach to looking at him, but we're closing in on lynch time and he doesn't really seem to care how the lynch goes.


I've made it pretty clear who I want to lynch, and your response "I'm ignoring that player" doesn't help.

I'm going to say this only once, so you guys can take it or leave it. I had a horrible experience in Personality where I spammed way too much, got overemotional, got tunnelled, and got blinded. So much so that I barely read more than a couple of filters that game. This game I'm trying to turn my back on all that and take a bird's eye view. Is this a possibly convenient excuse for an uninvested mafia-marv? Sure. But it's not the case. Anyway, I'm not going to mention it again.

Funny how this post reminds me of themed.
You'll find it funny when I'll remind you of themed too :D


Okay, so I like, gotta bounce.
Of current candidates I still think yamato is by and far the best one. So I'm keeping my vote on him in hopes that you guys see his incredible redness and spill his blood and drink it and shit.
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Dandel Ion
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March 28 2013 00:55 GMT
#1304
Hey guys.

Should have lynched yamato.

That is all.
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March 28 2013 14:17 GMT
#1393
Tomorrow's lynch is between yam and snb.
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March 28 2013 15:10 GMT
#1404
Hapa/palmar/etc can be kept for later.

Tomorrow's lynch is between yam and snb.
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Dandel Ion
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March 28 2013 15:11 GMT
#1405
Also I don't understand how people have so many town reads in that game, I have a grand total of 2....
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March 28 2013 15:35 GMT
#1410
On March 29 2013 00:11 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
Hey Acro, now that you're here, and I'm here, I want to talk to you about some things that I don't like in your "case" on me.

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1.
On March 26 2013 12:37 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
Is he an idiot as town, too?

From your filter, that is what I surmise is your opinion of him already. If that's the case, I guess you're content to let him lurk away the rest of day 1 as he intends?

Or...?

If Smurf is Yamato, he has played at least 2 games with a town DI (British 1 and Personality 2) and thus cannot simply claim ignorance of how DI plays as town. Even if he can be forgiven the remarkable oversight of not looking at DI's townplay, his excuse of ignorance here is a lie.


This is bullshit, and quite obviously evidence that you're not reading my filter. I specifically mentioned that I have not played with Dandel from the very beginning of the game, and that my experience with town Dandel is not that he's an idiot. If you looked into either of those games, you would realize that he was a replacement in both, and a troll in neither. Given this, how do you think that I'm lying?

So you say you havn't played with me, but you still have experience with my townplay.

....

scum lies are scum lies.
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Dandel Ion
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March 28 2013 18:14 GMT
#1476
OO is almost certainly town.
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March 28 2013 19:47 GMT
#1519
On March 28 2013 14:17 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
When I get home from work, I'm going to lay out the scum team for you guys.

Too easy.

On March 29 2013 04:19 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
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On March 29 2013 04:18 cDgCorazon wrote:
Yamato you are digging such a hole for yourself here.

Basically you are tunneling me and Kei is scum "by proxy". It's not hard to see what you're doing here.

You still haven't given any reason that Kei is scum. I'd love to hear an actual one.

[...]

I'm trying my best NOT to "tunnel" you, because I have enough reason to doubt myself.

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Dandel Ion
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March 28 2013 19:53 GMT
#1521
On March 29 2013 03:38 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
Dandel looked better to me earlier, but his general disinterest in town's affairs and his lackadaisical mafia read of me concerns me. At first it felt like he was just OMGUSing me out of surprise, but he's stuck with it and not done much else, which is quite bad. Under no pressure, he fails to even engage in the thread beyond one-liners and calling me/snb scum, so the possibility exists that he is just lurky mafia riding off the back of everyone calling him likely-town in response to my case on him.

Cool beans. Guess you found a way to fabricate a reason to push me again. gj.

I dunno how else you expect me to engage in the thread apart from pushing my primary scumreads, which are you and snb.


And I don't OMGUS people out of surprise. That's just straight bs and I dunno where you got that shit.
It's just easier for me to read people on which basis they are trying to attack me, and I can't reconcile your basis with a town mindset. So you're scum. It's real easy.

I don't need to do much else, I already found two scum, and I'll seriously look for more once I get those lynched.
Starting with you.
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Dandel Ion
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March 28 2013 21:50 GMT
#1573
On March 29 2013 06:48 sinani206 wrote:
Hapa, please stop encouraging people to post vital information at night time. We have 48 hours to discuss the next lynch.

Sure let's not talk, that'll catch them scum.
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Dandel Ion
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March 28 2013 22:01 GMT
#1591
Oh hey I can lynch both scum.

Thanks Palmar, you a bro.
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March 28 2013 22:05 GMT
#1596
On March 29 2013 06:59 Keirathi wrote:
There's just one little nagging thing that makes me question my read: why did he, as scum, come in attacking me+cora? If he's scum, he knows that we are (at least, very very very likely that we are) telling the truth. And thread sentiment is that we are probably town. So why is he attacking us? That feels more like townie paranoia than idiot scum.

First time I rolled scum I attacked blueclaims like shit.

Then I was real sad nobody wanted to lynch them for me.

Meaningless imo.
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March 28 2013 22:12 GMT
#1606
On March 29 2013 03:14 Dandel Ion wrote:
OO is almost certainly town.

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March 28 2013 23:06 GMT
#1646
oh yeah lets lynch marv, shall we.

vote n stuff.
Only mine is actually in voting thread.
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Dandel Ion
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March 29 2013 12:30 GMT
#1708
On March 29 2013 17:12 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
why is hapa pushing marv over me when he said I am in the "kill it with fire" category>

sense, it makes none

That's not what's happening, but at this point I'm used to you bullshitting. So, go on.


On March 29 2013 20:17 Acrofales wrote:
In other news, Rayn probably scum. I have no time to explain and am posting from my iPad and will be utnil Sunday (away for Easter weekend). Kill Sinani and Smurf before him anyway.

Probably true maybe. Who knows, maybe he'll be nice and get himself modkilled.


Anyways I'm also out today and will also be out tomorrow and inbetween need to sleep so I'm not gonna post much either. have fun all.
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March 29 2013 12:30 GMT
#1709
On March 29 2013 21:30 Dandel Ion wrote:
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On March 29 2013 20:17 Acrofales wrote:
In other news, Rayn probably scum. I have no time to explain and am posting from my iPad and will be utnil Sunday (away for Easter weekend). Kill Sinani and Smurf before him anyway.

Probably true maybe. Who knows, maybe he'll be nice and get himself modkilled.

Or not...
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March 29 2013 23:37 GMT
#1843
Even I stopped pushing snb after his not-so-softclaim.

And I missed the mason claim business for, like, 2 days straight.

Even I.

There's literally no excuse.
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Dandel Ion
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March 29 2013 23:40 GMT
#1846
marv I'd like to officially invite you to join ego mini mafia once it goes up.
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Dandel Ion
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March 30 2013 12:19 GMT
#1979
On March 30 2013 20:09 ObviousOne wrote:
Lol
I'm re-reading from after the Nisani lynch to see what sticks out to me so I'll get back to it eventually.

Where in the sweet tits is Dandel?

I'm afk a lot cause it's easter weekend. Pretty sure I already said so.

was out with friends yesterday, am working today for like 20 hours straight, starting now.

Depending on how busy this shit is I might post a bit later, don't count on it tho. I will probably get around to reading the thread, there's not much there.

Luckily lynching smurf will hard-confirm me town beyond any doubt, so I don't even need to spam the thread, which is cool cause I don't have the time to do that. Funny how that works out. Cheers.
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March 30 2013 12:35 GMT
#1981
On March 30 2013 21:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On March 30 2013 21:19 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 30 2013 20:09 ObviousOne wrote:
Lol
I'm re-reading from after the Nisani lynch to see what sticks out to me so I'll get back to it eventually.

Where in the sweet tits is Dandel?

I'm afk a lot cause it's easter weekend. Pretty sure I already said so.

was out with friends yesterday, am working today for like 20 hours straight, starting now.

Depending on how busy this shit is I might post a bit later, don't count on it tho. I will probably get around to reading the thread, there's not much there.

Luckily lynching smurf will hard-confirm me town beyond any doubt, so I don't even need to spam the thread, which is cool cause I don't have the time to do that. Funny how that works out. Cheers.


So it doesnt actually matter what smurf flips?

Explain this cool way of confirming yourself as town.

Also double lynch today, DO YOU STILL WANT TO LYNCH MARV?

Sure it matters.
He's gonna flip scum.

Sure I want to. Not yet sure if there's a smarter/better lynch, but that doesn't stop me from wanting to kill it with fire.
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Dandel Ion
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March 30 2013 12:42 GMT
#1982
On March 30 2013 10:38 marvellosity wrote:
That leaves Acro/Dandel/Rayn/OO

From my POV 2 of them are gonna be mafia. I'm not sure on any of them. Dandel has threatened to shoot me twice (check out his references to Themed where he NKed me as town). OO maybe seems townie? I dunno. All these players I can give vague reasons for being town. Maybe i'll find time tomorrow to check into it, maybe i won't. But that's how i basically view the game right now.

And that makes me mafia or what, lol?

I just threatened a shot in a barely obscure enough fashion so that not any random scummer could guess it so I'd see if I'd get roleblocked or not. Since you would clearly understand the reference. I didn't, but I can't recall anybody claiming a roleblock (or mb I just missed it dunno), so I can't draw anything alignment-y from it.

now I said that I can also say that I SADLY don't actually have a gun or righteous fire would rain down on the infidels.
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March 30 2013 12:47 GMT
#1986
Last mafia peoples could be marv, could be sinani, could very well be acro, could be rayn, could still be keir and/or Cora too.

I kinda want to lynch either marv or acro alongside smurf today.
Still preferring marv, but acro is looking real bad too. And he's doing his "push scum with words but not with actions" shizzle he did in Personality too. In this case it's smurf, in Pers it was ver/dp.
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March 30 2013 12:49 GMT
#1987
On March 30 2013 21:44 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 30 2013 21:42 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 30 2013 10:38 marvellosity wrote:
That leaves Acro/Dandel/Rayn/OO

From my POV 2 of them are gonna be mafia. I'm not sure on any of them. Dandel has threatened to shoot me twice (check out his references to Themed where he NKed me as town). OO maybe seems townie? I dunno. All these players I can give vague reasons for being town. Maybe i'll find time tomorrow to check into it, maybe i won't. But that's how i basically view the game right now.

And that makes me mafia or what, lol?

I just threatened a shot in a barely obscure enough fashion so that not any random scummer could guess it so I'd see if I'd get roleblocked or not. Since you would clearly understand the reference. I didn't, but I can't recall anybody claiming a roleblock (or mb I just missed it dunno), so I can't draw anything alignment-y from it.

now I said that I can also say that I SADLY don't actually have a gun or righteous fire would rain down on the infidels.


no, it gave you town points. Which is why I mentioned it.

Well you made it not sound like it. Since it's pretty much the only thing you say about me, and I'm in your cool list.
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March 30 2013 12:53 GMT
#1989
On March 30 2013 21:51 marvellosity wrote:
Because I'm entirely uninterested in conversing with you, as I've made clear already.

I didn't see the point if you were mafia of threatening to shoot me like that, I don't understand what you'd be trying to gain. It's not a massive point but it's been enough not to worry about you.

But it's not conversing with me. It's conversing about me.

So you put me on your scumlist, with only a sentence on why you think I'm town.
Makes total sense bro.
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March 30 2013 12:55 GMT
#1991
I'm pretty hungover maybe that's why.
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March 30 2013 12:58 GMT
#1994
On March 30 2013 21:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
Dandel you said you 'caught' marv because of the similarity in behavior to themed right?

Care to point out a few specific points?

Marv, thoughts on Keir's case and Acro/sinani association?
What does Keir say that isnt very strong about that association?

Nah I said that to fake my shot-threatening stuff mainly.

He just trolled in themed there's not much to draw from it. Tho he was about equally useless and unwilling to actually do anything, so there's that.
He's not being nice to me, which would be a huge scumtell for him, but since I already shot him once on that basis, he wouldn't have to pretend to actually be a pleasant person, so that doesn't mean much either.
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March 30 2013 12:59 GMT
#1995
On March 30 2013 21:57 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 30 2013 21:55 Dandel Ion wrote:
I'm pretty hungover maybe that's why.


I'm not calling you mafia, I'm just eliminating flipped people/claims/strong reads, eliminating connections that I can't see, and I'm left with the 4 names that you're on. It doesn't have much reflection on anything apart from that.

well then you eliminated too many people, looks like.

Still pretty sure OO is town too.
I'd get modkilled for explaining it properly, BUT YOU CANT STOP ME FROM THINKING IT HAHA
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March 30 2013 13:00 GMT
#1996
Okay my boss is coming in for realz, I gotta stop now for realz too.
later
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March 30 2013 19:54 GMT
#2078
Hi.
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March 30 2013 22:01 GMT
#2092
lolol

gg
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#2953
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April 04 2013 13:17 GMT
#3013
On April 04 2013 22:16 prplhz wrote:
marv said it pretty well, only have one thing to add.

i think it should be a lot clearer how my role works. after the vanillas-with-one-shot claimed i still had no idea if i could give them a gun. like, i claimed my role, they claimed their role, i still had no idea if i could use my power on them.

gg guys and thanks for hosting.

They quite clearly claimed "VT with a oneshot power".

Read the thread.


€: also I still can't believe scum didn't pick up on keir's very early lover 'crumbs'.
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#3016
On April 04 2013 22:18 prplhz wrote:
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On April 04 2013 22:17 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 04 2013 22:16 prplhz wrote:
marv said it pretty well, only have one thing to add.

i think it should be a lot clearer how my role works. after the vanillas-with-one-shot claimed i still had no idea if i could give them a gun. like, i claimed my role, they claimed their role, i still had no idea if i could use my power on them.

gg guys and thanks for hosting.

They quite clearly claimed "VT with a oneshot power".

Read the thread.

that's why i call them

"vanillas-with-one-shot"

it's because they're vanilla townies with oneshot powers

read the thread

You can give guns to Vanilla.

Guy claims Vanilla.

You don't think he is Vanilla.

???
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