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On March 30 2013 08:28 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 08:13 strongandbig wrote:
Sinani got autocorrected on my phine what's a phine? are you just messing with me? I think his posting remind me more of this than of this so I don't want to lynch him. I don't care that he's not around at all. There's a reason sinani206 hasn't played on this forum for a while and it probably has something to do with how other players sometimes feel about him, and I think sometimes it's even perfectly reasonable to feel that way about him (though I don't remember that he's ever ruined any game I've been in) because: sometimes sinani206 does aggravating shit for no reason. As I see it, the reason sinani206 isn't around right now is that he got bored with the game after helping to mislynch his pal and so he left. It has absolutely nothing to do with his alignment.
I don't even understand how you can type half of this stuff with a straight face.
For this reason, I have great admiration for you prplhz.
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On March 30 2013 08:34 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 08:25 marvellosity wrote:On March 30 2013 08:22 Keirathi wrote:On March 30 2013 08:19 marvellosity wrote:
ok? you have your vote on me, so let's not worry about it too much Zzzzzz. I don't want to lynch you if you are town. Quit giving up. I'm not in here yelling at everyone to vote you, and I'm trying to back off so you don't get "on tilt" or wahtever. But you're not giving us anything. What's there to say about his stupid claim at the start of the day? It's blatantly obvious to anyone who's even vaguely reading the thread what the options were, and I believe I've shown myself to be attentive to the thread multiple times (for example, easily pulling up Palmar's read on you, or Smurf's blue snipe) There's very little to say about it other than that either he's mafia, and he won't claim, or he'll claim and be counterclaimed, or he's not mafia, in which case at some stage he'll claim and not be counterclaimed. This doesn't actually require anyone bringing anything up. You're kind of missing the point. I didn't "bring it up" either. I'm not accusing you of that. But I don't see how you could see the interaction and then later still think of S&B was one of your top scum reads ("Probably sinani and s&b are my top 2 right now"). Like S&B said, that points to you not really thinking about the game critically. Which is also what you did with me on day 1: call me scum for 1 thing, to the exclusion of everything else I had done in the game. And, surprise! Your "suspicion" only stopped with the claim. Which makes some of your other stances really weird. You call Smurf scum for the entirety of day 1 and night 1. Then suddenly "He seems genuinely mad at points" so you don't want to vote him. Why this in-depth analysis for one person, but not for S&B? Not for me? It doesn't make sense to me :o
Because until he's claimed there's no reason to think he's town. I can't be arsed to log on to OMGUS right now but there's a game where I lynched palm (mafia) day 1, and had Enforced as my top scumread day 2 with coag just behind. It turned out kush had been protected by Enforced, and in my head I thought that Enforced was the only person in the game that would have protected kush instead of me (or some other dude I forget). Nonetheless I would have killed Enforced until he claimed, which he did.
You're also just bullshitting with your "to the exclusion of everything else you'd done this game". You'd done nothing, like in every game you play you're a useless shit, and had made a case in 5th place on Grack and a shit meta case on prplhz. That's literally all you did. We done here?
I also don't get how you think "he seems genuinely angry" is in-depth analysis. I'm sick of this retarded conversation with you because it's NEVER going to get either of us anywhere. Just leave me the fuck alone.
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On March 30 2013 08:39 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 08:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 30 2013 08:28 prplhz wrote:On March 30 2013 08:13 strongandbig wrote:
Sinani got autocorrected on my phine what's a phine? are you just messing with me? I think his posting remind me more of this than of this so I don't want to lynch him. I don't care that he's not around at all. There's a reason sinani206 hasn't played on this forum for a while and it probably has something to do with how other players sometimes feel about him, and I think sometimes it's even perfectly reasonable to feel that way about him (though I don't remember that he's ever ruined any game I've been in) because: sometimes sinani206 does aggravating shit for no reason. As I see it, the reason sinani206 isn't around right now is that he got bored with the game after helping to mislynch his pal and so he left. It has absolutely nothing to do with his alignment. Has somebody been rude or something to sinani? And mislynching your friend is not really a good reason to stop playing don't you think? I don't know if people have been rude to sinani206. No I don't think so. If I had any clue I'd probably know what marvellosity just said about me but I don't. That's probably fortunate.
I just think it's adorable that you read "mislynches the player he knows best and stops giving a shit about the game" as not alignment indicative.
Genuinely adorable.
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Says the guy who's swore at me multiple times this game for no reason whatsoever when I'd done nothing similar to provove it. Ok.
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why not? what kind of silly question is this?
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##Vote: InsertSmurfHere
##Vote: sinani6064935435
I don't have anything else to add to this game.
I find it especially tedious how people keep talking to me like they want some super awesome answers out of me, when I keep telling them if they want to vote me then they should just do so. These are my final 2 answers for today.
I may be around tomorrow at various points, but I won't be thinking about the game.
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On March 30 2013 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 08:47 marvellosity wrote:
why not? what kind of silly question is this? What's the point of defending me in case i am a) town, b)mafia? You must have thought about it because s&b was your scumread before his claim.
scum or town defend people all the time. ggnore
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Thanks :D
I'm old now so it'll be *relatively* quiet. I will probably still drink copiously, though.
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On March 30 2013 09:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 08:52 marvellosity wrote:On March 30 2013 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 30 2013 08:47 marvellosity wrote:
why not? what kind of silly question is this? What's the point of defending me in case i am a) town, b)mafia? You must have thought about it because s&b was your scumread before his claim. scum or town defend people all the time. ggnore My point is that as you have no idea about me, since i have not played with any of you people before (except for Palmar & prplhz, and that was 1,5 years ago), there is no reason for s&b to try to gain town credit this way. - If i am mafia with him, it would be more beneficial for us to talk about OO's case and have me post those things as they are spot on. Me gaining town-credit from OO case against me is far more better than s&b doing it. - If i am town why not let me & OO fight each other and shit up the thread? - If i am town and OO is mafia this is ridiculous from the beginning. Don't just give up please. At least try ffs.
I defend townies for no reason all the time as mafia. Much the same as I defend townies all the time as town because I believe they are town. I have literally nothing to say about this.
I've not given up, I've given my best two chances for the lynch. It's up to you guys if I'm one of the two guys who dies.
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Scum defend townies because townies defend townies. And scum do what townies do so they look like townies.
It's not a very difficult concept.
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No, you don't understand. But that's ok.
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Kei and I have 60 games between us. My reads may not always be correct, but stuff like that isn't really something you can argue about.
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On March 30 2013 09:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 09:40 marvellosity wrote:
Kei and I have 60 games between us. My reads may not always be correct, but stuff like that isn't really something you can argue about. Well there are different approaches to mafia for everyone and i do not think having a different approach is right/worng. It's all about identificating the motives behind peoples actions. Scumplay can be handled very differently and in my mind i didn't see that defence coming from scum!s&b. Maybe i was wrong or right or maybe we are both right here, idk.
This isn't a case of different approaches. It's like saying there's different approaches to climbing a hill, but shooting yourself in the face isn't one of them.
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On March 30 2013 09:55 ObviousOne wrote:
@rayn Seriously though I think we're two townies arguing with each other. Your early game struck me as incredibly townie during my re-read. Palmar gave you the green light for it as well (though he later changed his mind) and you are actively discussing things in the thread including accusations against you. I want to talk about new things with you and not re-hash old. Need to get off this couch / iPod but I really don't feel like moving at this moment.
Where are you on Acro right now? He was my third scum read N1 and you can find the reasons in my filter. Later when we started talking about it he disappeared and I felt that I remained on the right track with him.
Give me your 4 best bets for mafia. You don't have to be sure or anything, just your impressions.
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I'm sure you talked about Acro in more detail in your filter, but I've had a bit to drink - can you summarise why you find him suspicious for me?
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On March 30 2013 10:06 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 10:06 marvellosity wrote:
I'm sure you talked about Acro in more detail in your filter, but I've had a bit to drink - can you summarise why you find him suspicious for me? Pick me, pick me!
Er, I choose you? (I have no idea what for, but go for it!)
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On March 30 2013 10:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 10:06 Keirathi wrote:On March 30 2013 09:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 30 2013 09:40 marvellosity wrote:
Kei and I have 60 games between us. My reads may not always be correct, but stuff like that isn't really something you can argue about. Well there are different approaches to mafia for everyone and i do not think having a different approach is right/worng. It's all about identificating the motives behind peoples actions. Scumplay can be handled very differently and in my mind i didn't see that defence coming from scum!s&b. Maybe i was wrong or right or maybe we are both right here, idk. Fine. Here's scum S&B defending me for no reason in Chrono Trigger (it wasn't even a lynch day...we were electing a Mayor). He really had no reason to defend me. He just used the defense of me to start slinging suspicion at Hapa: On November 22 2012 04:26 strongandbig wrote:On November 21 2012 13:17 Hapahauli wrote:@ iampWelcome! As distinguishable as you are, that's not the only thing we're looking for in a party leader. I'd prefer someone with a very strong track-record of accurate D1 town reads. You're definitely someone that can be read early and be a party candidate though.
@ KeiYou're right, he is capable of pulling off big plays as scum, even day 1. But it's not like I'm giving him a town read already, nor do I plan to vote him until I do. I'm paranoid as fuck when it comes to him, but again, I'm much more confident in my ability to read him than I am any of the other vets, purely because I am extremely familiar with how marv thinks and acts. Err... but you said... On November 21 2012 12:14 Keirathi wrote:
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I said I would vote marv, barring a scummy vibe from him. And, yes, I feel I have a decent grasp of when marv is acting scummy. The key is, though, that I thoroughly trust marv's ability to make town reads. In the event that he is scum, though, even a scum marv can't afford to pick other scum without some damn good reasoning that they are town, which I believe could be seen through. Do explain good sir. ehrmagerd he was inconsistent wooooooooooooooow this is a big deal guys (no it's not) not feeling the hapa happenin right now If you still want to discuss this okay then: See the difference in defences? Most notably the difference in effort s&b put into this compared to the defence in my case.
I don't care what alignment you are, you need to drop this.
In LIX, I defended austinmcc really hard (to my detriment for a while) as mayor in LIX. We were both town.
Kei provided an example from Liquid City. I defended kush hard there, he was town and I was mafia.
I pull these examples up merely because they're convenient to my knowledge. But you'll find it in any mafia play. Mafia *love* to defend townies because it's super easy and potentially gets them town-credit (HELLO WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE)
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On March 30 2013 10:12 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 10:07 marvellosity wrote:On March 30 2013 10:06 Keirathi wrote:On March 30 2013 10:06 marvellosity wrote:
I'm sure you talked about Acro in more detail in your filter, but I've had a bit to drink - can you summarise why you find him suspicious for me? Pick me, pick me! Er, I choose you? (I have no idea what for, but go for it!) Well, I want to hear what OO has to say. But I've been thinking about Acro a bunch and he is interesting. I'll explain more in a bit.
I should have time in patches tomorrow, I'm off pretty shortly for tonight though. I'd like to talk about it with you though, so please don't keep it indefinitely.
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It's not about believing, it's about education.
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Apparently rayn is mafia in XXXIX
this makes me think considerably worse of him here (sorry man)
see you all tomorrow
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