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TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 28 2013 14:03 GMT
#461
Wait, I meant to say Ray is most likely to be town. Rainbows and Jarjar are tied for the likely scums in my eyes.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 28 2013 14:23 GMT
#462
On March 28 2013 23:02 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 22:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Raven: I see you calling everyone but virtu scum without no reasoning.

Please explain this without the double negative that is aggrivating my head.

rofl sorry. With no reasoning.
table for two on a tv tray
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 28 2013 14:24 GMT
#463
On March 28 2013 23:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 23:02 TheRavensName wrote:
On March 28 2013 22:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Raven: I see you calling everyone but virtu scum without no reasoning.

Please explain this without the double negative that is aggrivating my head.

rofl sorry. With no reasoning.

I explained my reasoning. I think rainbows is right about this confirmation bias you got going.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 28 2013 14:34 GMT
#464
On March 28 2013 13:51 TheRavensName wrote:
I will post a case on Ray tomorrow, my head is hurting too much to read anymore right now. Plus I would like to see feedback first as well as any responses from him. I know that if him and Jarjar are scum its going to be impossible for me to live without Virtu coming back anyways.

On March 28 2013 14:16 TheRavensName wrote:
##Vote:JarjarDinks
Sleepy time now Point of this vote: Hope whoever checks this first votes for him and isn't one of the mafia.

On March 28 2013 15:41 TheRavensName wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Rainbows

Elaborate please. How is there reasoning and how are you not calling us all mafia?
table for two on a tv tray
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 28 2013 15:36 GMT
#465
On March 28 2013 23:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 13:51 TheRavensName wrote:
I will post a case on Ray tomorrow, my head is hurting too much to read anymore right now. Plus I would like to see feedback first as well as any responses from him. I know that if him and Jarjar are scum its going to be impossible for me to live without Virtu coming back anyways.

Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 14:16 TheRavensName wrote:
##Vote:JarjarDinks
Sleepy time now Point of this vote: Hope whoever checks this first votes for him and isn't one of the mafia.

Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 15:41 TheRavensName wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Rainbows

Elaborate please. How is there reasoning and how are you not calling us all mafia?

I posted cases on Jarjar and Rainbows, your more tehn welcomed to read them I didn't post one Virtu cause hes too difficult and I think a flip would tell us more, and I actually called you town.

Side question, did anyone get roleblocked? That would tell us alot about virtu.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 28 2013 16:15 GMT
#466
On March 23 2013 07:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't understand why Frorgon thinks Raven and JarJar are both scum given what Raven said. First of all, you can't base JarJar's alignment on what Raven says about him. It only gives us clues about Raven's alignment. It's not uncommon for mafia to soft/hard defend townies to make them look worse in case the mafia guy flips. Second of all, do not make connection cases pre-flip, that's just dumb.

So in my eyes Frorgon looks worse.

This is something that stands out to me when I look at your filter ray that I would like explained. Why have you not called out Rainbow as scummy, and I mean REALLY called him out, for defending me so hard/ Your whole early case was based on me defending Jarjar... but Rainbows gets a free pass? Not only that, outside of addressing me, you have not made very many comments at rainbows at all. I thnk theres a good chance that if Rainbows flips red, your the other red. You guys are avoiding making cases against the same people, which is rather easy sense your focused on Frorgon, Krafia, and Me, while Rainbows went after virtu, Nobodywonder, ad Jarjar... who you have defended.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
March 28 2013 18:05 GMT
#467
##Unvote
##Vote: Rainbows



While I'm still pretty sure Rainbow and Raven are the baddies, I think there's a slight chance that rainbows and ray have had me bamboozled the whole game.

So while it's possible for Rainbows to be scum and Raven to not be. I don't see any situation where Raven is scum but Rainbows isn't.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 28 2013 18:09 GMT
#468
How have you gone the entire game without making a single real case Jarjar?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 28 2013 18:33 GMT
#469
Sorry guise working alllll the days right now

At a computer soon. Good news is that judging from recent events ive pinned the scumteam. All will be clear soon enough.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 28 2013 18:37 GMT
#470
On March 29 2013 03:33 Rainbows wrote:
Sorry guise working alllll the days right now

At a computer soon. Good news is that judging from recent events ive pinned the scumteam. All will be clear soon enough.

Lovely cause it seems your the victim of note right now.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
virtu
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom147 Posts
March 28 2013 22:03 GMT
#471
Just been informed that I someone forgot to inform me that I was roleblocked again last night, so yeah that's the second time.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 28 2013 22:10 GMT
#472
I am Ron Weasley!. Oh I bet the scumteam is so fucking pissed right now. So mad. SO MAD!! Ahahaha! You have no idea how good it feels to let all this go :D

Here I was, thinking I was being so obvious with it. I thought Raven was town, but people were going at him from everywhere. I had to check him. Just check my filter. Day 2 is 'holy fuck Raven is town don't lynch him' because I had the green check.

On March 26 2013 23:43 Rainbows wrote:
TRN is so town guys -.-

Get the fuck off of him. Kill virtu / kill NW. Everyone keeps saying Raven's play is different and he's lying or whatever, but he's coming off super townie to me right now.


Like I can't believe people didn't notice it how blatantly cop I was. I was one step away from claiming right then haha.

I chose to check Raven because it would give me information nobody else had about the upcoming day 2 lynch. Also, I wasn't sure if Virtu was going to be modkilled / flipped so it may have been waste of a check. Raven was a cornerstone that needed to be checked. It made me think Ray could be scum for pushing it, and guess what? He is. We'll get to that later.

I was about to claim and prevent the Raven lynch, but luckily I was able to divert it onto someone who I thought was scum. Also fortunately, scum either don't have a roleblocker or didn't roleblock me last night, because I checked Virtu. He's town as well. Unless there's some sort of GF situation going on, I think this games in the bag for town. Got all my checks off without a hitch, and I love you guys. Can't believe the scum didn't hit me Day 1, though I can understand them keeping me alive after I drove the lynch on NW xD.

Raven = town
Virtu = (stupid) town
Me = town

JarJar / Ray scumteam. GG

##Vote: JarJarDrinks


There is only one flaw in my logic... if virtu is the GF...

+ Show Spoiler +
Cute. Your tone so far has been confident bordering on arrogant. Traits commonly found in a new player that thinks he's invincible when he gets Godfather handed to him and doesn't know what to do with it.


Like ugh. I really doubt that's the case, but even so it still means one of jarjar/ray is scum.

Happy Birthday Raven, you're about to see the gift of red blood grace your fingertips. I am going to be making cases on JarJar and Ray just to set the nail in the coffin.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 28 2013 22:15 GMT
#473
Raven you're the only person I can really trust right now.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=402424&currentpage=19#365

What do you think of the lynch at this point and forward? Me and Ray have a shouting match back and forth, JarJar votes Krafla uselessly... etc etc. I think it says alot. Ray keeps pressuring you because he knew NW would flip town, While JarJar gets on the 'wagon of justice' to separate himself from the NW lynch.

So fucking happy I got this in the bag right now. Jarjar voting with Raven who he thinks is scum is also hilariously scummy. Yeah just try to lynch me, buddy.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 28 2013 22:17 GMT
#474
On March 28 2013 10:03 JarJarDrinks wrote:
##Vote: TheRavensName


On March 28 2013 22:46 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 22:36 TheRavensName wrote:
Jarjar and you have been gunning for me for a while so killing me is a poor choice

This statement only makes sense coming from someone that knows that Ray and I are both town.


Yeah Raven definitely scum.

Raven votes rainbows... ez mislynch!

On March 29 2013 03:05 JarJarDrinks wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Rainbows



While I'm still pretty sure Rainbow and Raven are the baddies, I think there's a slight chance that rainbows and ray have had me bamboozled the whole game.

So while it's possible for Rainbows to be scum and Raven to not be. I don't see any situation where Raven is scum but Rainbows isn't.


Yeah JarJar is pretty much claiming scum at this point.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 28 2013 22:19 GMT
#475
I guess this actually makes the NK's make sense, especially Krafla.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 28 2013 22:30 GMT
#476
On March 28 2013 23:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 13:51 TheRavensName wrote:
I will post a case on Ray tomorrow, my head is hurting too much to read anymore right now. Plus I would like to see feedback first as well as any responses from him. I know that if him and Jarjar are scum its going to be impossible for me to live without Virtu coming back anyways.

Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 14:16 TheRavensName wrote:
##Vote:JarjarDinks
Sleepy time now Point of this vote: Hope whoever checks this first votes for him and isn't one of the mafia.

Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 15:41 TheRavensName wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Rainbows

Elaborate please. How is there reasoning and how are you not calling us all mafia?


Elaborate please on how Raven is confirmed town and how you are scum

Here's my original case on Ray:

On March 23 2013 00:07 Rainbows wrote:
Sup dudes.

I'd rather kill Ray right now.

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On March 22 2013 23:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 22 2013 23:03 Frorgon wrote:
What's wrong Raven? You guys trying to cover each other's ass?

If they are covering each other, why would JarJar point out Raven's suspicious actions?

- Raven "agrees with me" that JarJar is hostile. I have never implied i think JarJar is being hostile. Raven is basically saying


Show nested quote +
On March 22 2013 21:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 22 2013 12:52 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Hey all, Don't worry I wont lurk @ all once the game starts rolling. Being how I've never played against any of y'all I have nothing to base any read off so I probably wont throw down a vote untill everyone's posted a bit.

It's pretty interesting you say this. How do you propose we actually get the game going if everyone acts like this?



Show nested quote +
On March 22 2013 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why do you feel like you have to tell people you won't be lurking when nobody is even accusing you of lurking?
Why so defensive? Afraid of something?


You never implied JarJar was hostile...but you were voting him and calling him out on a bunch of shit. Apparently you had a reason to believe he is scum (hostile, yes?). Then,you proceed to sheep his quote on Raven. What were you trying to accomplish here? Because it certainly doesn't seem town-motivated to be questioning a 'scum read' and then switching bases completely when he picks up something moderately scummy in someone else.

##Vote: Ray

So, bro, tell me, what IS your stance on JarJar? Did your read on him suddenly evaporate?


Now I realize why Ray did this. A distancing attempt with JarJar, to stir up some scummy things in someone else. Dropping everything completely on his scumbuddy to pursue Raven.

They haven't really mentioned each other at all since then, up until last night I believe. He thinks him or Ray will be shot, something or other.

Also notice JarJar's day 2 play: He parked his vote on virtu to 'pressure' him, and then chastises me for not doing so. Dafaq? I don't think he was doing anything, just waiting for NW / Raven to be mislynched.
virtu
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom147 Posts
March 28 2013 22:36 GMT
#477
##Unvote
##Vote: JarJarDrinks

Nicely played Rainbows. I'm VT, and have been roleblocked twice this game, guess scum couldn't afford to kill me because I've been useless to town but were scared I was a blue. I was sure you were either Blue or Mafia by the end of D1 from your play.

Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 28 2013 22:43 GMT
#478
Plz concede scum.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 28 2013 23:07 GMT
#479
##Unvote
##Vote: JarjarDrinks

Dear god Rainbows you scared me. I was almost certain Virtu was going to be our only blue role and that it would be you and Ray scum team with Ray tunneling me while you focused on other people. The more I thought about my logic on Ray being town, the less it made sense. (At this point if its a fake blue claim, bravo... We are kind of forced to act on it at this point.)
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 28 2013 23:13 GMT
#480
Expect either a shitstorm or a hard concede. Raven, I've never played as scum but I don't think I'd defend you like that if I were red, ever. The object of the game is to lynch opposing faction not defend them T.T.

Why did you think I was scum, anyway? I thought I was pretty obviously town.
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