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Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 26 2013 17:46 GMT
#321
Ray has fair potential to be scum. He's tunneled my town read (or at least, not an entirely scummy guy) the entire game.

His aggressive posting style i like but it seems that hes heading in the opposite direction i am with it.

If virtu doesnt post or just pulls a krafla i will vote him in seconds. I'll be more than happy to take full credit for lynching that dude.

It seems like people this game hate taking stances... Who the heck are you guys' biggest scumreads, with, you know, good reasons?
Krafla
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom104 Posts
March 26 2013 18:11 GMT
#322
On March 27 2013 02:46 Rainbows wrote:
Ray has fair potential to be scum. He's tunneled my town read (or at least, not an entirely scummy guy) the entire game.

His aggressive posting style i like but it seems that hes heading in the opposite direction i am with it.

If virtu doesnt post or just pulls a krafla i will vote him in seconds. I'll be more than happy to take full credit for lynching that dude.

It seems like people this game hate taking stances... Who the heck are you guys' biggest scumreads, with, you know, good reasons?


Right OK here's what I think, we've got two scum in nw and TRN. They've both voting for each other to cover and spread their votes. If there's another scum in the game I believe it's between virtu and JarJar. Here are my reads.


Rainbows - I think you're town, but I think you're wrong to defend TRN.

ray - I think you're town, you started off aggressive but you've calmed down and you seem to have the town's best interest at heart.

JarJar - I'm on the fence with JarJar. You seem about as clueless as me when it comes to trying to make a reasonable read on anyone.

nw - I don't like the fact he got away without voting in D1, where I put myself in a compromising position to avoid not voting.

virtu - Same goes for virtu as nw however we've got the roleblock claim which no-one has commented on. I believe his claim partially because no one else claimed an RB. What is there in it for him to fake claim an RB. He wasn't the killer because we had a kill. Where does this leave us. His lack of posting is not helping us at all.

Right, I'm going to go drive home so I'll be away for an hour or so...


Oh I almost forgot TRN!! If you're town do me a favour and tell me who you cop checked on the first day and I'll move my vote off you.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 26 2013 18:23 GMT
#323
On March 27 2013 03:11 Krafla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 02:46 Rainbows wrote:
Ray has fair potential to be scum. He's tunneled my town read (or at least, not an entirely scummy guy) the entire game.

His aggressive posting style i like but it seems that hes heading in the opposite direction i am with it.

If virtu doesnt post or just pulls a krafla i will vote him in seconds. I'll be more than happy to take full credit for lynching that dude.

It seems like people this game hate taking stances... Who the heck are you guys' biggest scumreads, with, you know, good reasons?


Right OK here's what I think, we've got two scum in nw and TRN. They've both voting for each other to cover and spread their votes. If there's another scum in the game I believe it's between virtu and JarJar. Here are my reads.


Rainbows - I think you're town, but I think you're wrong to defend TRN.

ray - I think you're town, you started off aggressive but you've calmed down and you seem to have the town's best interest at heart.

JarJar - I'm on the fence with JarJar. You seem about as clueless as me when it comes to trying to make a reasonable read on anyone.

nw - I don't like the fact he got away without voting in D1, where I put myself in a compromising position to avoid not voting.

virtu - Same goes for virtu as nw however we've got the roleblock claim which no-one has commented on. I believe his claim partially because no one else claimed an RB. What is there in it for him to fake claim an RB. He wasn't the killer because we had a kill. Where does this leave us. His lack of posting is not helping us at all.

Right, I'm going to go drive home so I'll be away for an hour or so...


Oh I almost forgot TRN!! If you're town do me a favour and tell me who you cop checked on the first day and I'll move my vote off you.

Wait... my defense as town is to fake a blue claim? You better lynch me now then, I am not that stupid. Your either the cop and are trying to bait me into fake claiming so you can call me on it sense out of 9 people there is no way I can be the cop, or your trying to find out if I am cop, lynch someone else and then make me useless the rest of the game.

On the side note: Why would me and NW keep this voting thing up if we were both mafia? We have been both set to be lynched today, and could have swapped to virtu to make it so he would by lynched over us right now. I think the fact that jarjar changed so quickly to someone that it is extremly unlikely to get enough votes (No one is going to swap off me for Virtu as long as I am the confirmed lynch, especially assuming at least two of them are mafia, and the only person who can break the tie to save me is Virtu himself.) should be viewed as suspicious. I am willing to bet NW and Jarjar are both mafia, and this is Jar jar's way of causing a myslynch and saving NW.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 26 2013 18:24 GMT
#324
On March 27 2013 02:45 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 02:33 Krafla wrote:
JarJar who is your biggest read?
I can't really decide between the 2 vote leaders (NW and TRN). I'm gonna reread the thread again and see if I can pick anything new up.

If you couldn't decide why would you have voted for NW, and why didn't you do that before you swapped toVirtu?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 26 2013 18:26 GMT
#325
On March 27 2013 03:23 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 03:11 Krafla wrote:
On March 27 2013 02:46 Rainbows wrote:
Ray has fair potential to be scum. He's tunneled my town read (or at least, not an entirely scummy guy) the entire game.

His aggressive posting style i like but it seems that hes heading in the opposite direction i am with it.

If virtu doesnt post or just pulls a krafla i will vote him in seconds. I'll be more than happy to take full credit for lynching that dude.

It seems like people this game hate taking stances... Who the heck are you guys' biggest scumreads, with, you know, good reasons?


Right OK here's what I think, we've got two scum in nw and TRN. They've both voting for each other to cover and spread their votes. If there's another scum in the game I believe it's between virtu and JarJar. Here are my reads.


Rainbows - I think you're town, but I think you're wrong to defend TRN.

ray - I think you're town, you started off aggressive but you've calmed down and you seem to have the town's best interest at heart.

JarJar - I'm on the fence with JarJar. You seem about as clueless as me when it comes to trying to make a reasonable read on anyone.

nw - I don't like the fact he got away without voting in D1, where I put myself in a compromising position to avoid not voting.

virtu - Same goes for virtu as nw however we've got the roleblock claim which no-one has commented on. I believe his claim partially because no one else claimed an RB. What is there in it for him to fake claim an RB. He wasn't the killer because we had a kill. Where does this leave us. His lack of posting is not helping us at all.

Right, I'm going to go drive home so I'll be away for an hour or so...


Oh I almost forgot TRN!! If you're town do me a favour and tell me who you cop checked on the first day and I'll move my vote off you.

Wait... my defense as town is to fake a blue claim? You better lynch me now then, I am not that stupid. Your either the cop and are trying to bait me into fake claiming so you can call me on it sense out of 9 people there is no way I can be the cop, or your trying to find out if I am cop, lynch someone else and then make me useless the rest of the game.

On the side note: Why would me and NW keep this voting thing up if we were both mafia? We have been both set to be lynched today, and could have swapped to virtu to make it so he would by lynched over us right now. I think the fact that jarjar changed so quickly to someone that it is extremly unlikely to get enough votes (No one is going to swap off me for Virtu as long as I am the confirmed lynch, especially assuming at least two of them are mafia, and the only person who can break the tie to save me is Virtu himself.) should be viewed as suspicious. I am willing to bet NW and Jarjar are both mafia, and this is Jar jar's way of causing a myslynch and saving NW.

I want to add something while I'm thinking about it: If your clueless at making reads, why did you vote for me? Because Ray said so? You didn't jump on me with Ray before andhis case hasn't changed much at all. Instead you took the time to vote for yourself, which is still being called QUESTIONABLE AT BEST AND SCUM AT A MUCH MORE LIKELY SHOT.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
March 26 2013 18:29 GMT
#326
@krafla, what the heck was that post? or you really clueless with reads or just mafia?

you have a lot of hypothetical situations, saying that TRN and me are voting against each other to spread the votes. that doesn't make any sense - that just means one of us is going to get lynched and as a scum tactic, it's simply stupid. now also i know that TRN and me are not both scum, because for one I'm not scum, though I think TRN is scum.

and why the hell are you suggesting that TRN is cop and that he should cop-claim? do you want our cop to die? this is unacceptable
i want nobody nobody but you! *clap* *clap*- wonder girls
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
March 26 2013 18:33 GMT
#327
On March 27 2013 03:24 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 02:45 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On March 27 2013 02:33 Krafla wrote:
JarJar who is your biggest read?
I can't really decide between the 2 vote leaders (NW and TRN). I'm gonna reread the thread again and see if I can pick anything new up.

If you couldn't decide why would you have voted for NW, and why didn't you do that before you swapped toVirtu?
I made my case on NW. Ray then pointed out a flaw in it which I acknowledged. So while it doesn't negate my whole case against him, he's probably not my top suspect anymore.
nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
March 26 2013 18:35 GMT
#328
so JarJar, who is your top scumread of an active poster? a vote on virtu, just doesnt cut right now since its rather useless at this point. We can always switch votes and get virtu later today if unnecessary.
i want nobody nobody but you! *clap* *clap*- wonder girls
nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
March 26 2013 18:36 GMT
#329
^EBWOP if necessary
i want nobody nobody but you! *clap* *clap*- wonder girls
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 26 2013 18:36 GMT
#330
On March 27 2013 03:33 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 03:24 TheRavensName wrote:
On March 27 2013 02:45 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On March 27 2013 02:33 Krafla wrote:
JarJar who is your biggest read?
I can't really decide between the 2 vote leaders (NW and TRN). I'm gonna reread the thread again and see if I can pick anything new up.

If you couldn't decide why would you have voted for NW, and why didn't you do that before you swapped toVirtu?
I made my case on NW. Ray then pointed out a flaw in it which I acknowledged. So while it doesn't negate my whole case against him, he's probably not my top suspect anymore.

You also said you didn't think Virtu was scum either so.... Again this brings the question of why Virtu to the table.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 26 2013 18:40 GMT
#331
One final note about Krafia, I can't decide if hes lazy and stupid or scum and I would like some input on this. He has been trying to make a connection case sense day 1, first on me and Jarjar, now hes trying to jam one about me and NW, while also posting things (Like the vote on himself and his big useless list post.) That give me the impression he isn't even reading the thread, or at the very least hes skimming it till he can find something that he can piece together to look like hes playing when hes not. Combind this with last game, where he basically did the same thing while also making the mistake of role claiming and then getting RBed the entire game, which is what hes trying to get me to walk into, and it just... feels wrong, but I cant figure out if its bad townie that hsould probably be lynched but wont be, or scum play.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
March 26 2013 18:45 GMT
#332
On March 27 2013 03:36 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 03:33 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On March 27 2013 03:24 TheRavensName wrote:
On March 27 2013 02:45 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On March 27 2013 02:33 Krafla wrote:
JarJar who is your biggest read?
I can't really decide between the 2 vote leaders (NW and TRN). I'm gonna reread the thread again and see if I can pick anything new up.

If you couldn't decide why would you have voted for NW, and why didn't you do that before you swapped toVirtu?
I made my case on NW. Ray then pointed out a flaw in it which I acknowledged. So while it doesn't negate my whole case against him, he's probably not my top suspect anymore.

You also said you didn't think Virtu was scum either so.... Again this brings the question of why Virtu to the table.

Because I don't want to give him a pass on lurking. I thought allowing people to lurk was bad. If he's scum and can get away w/ lurking then why wouldn't he? Unless he thinks he's gonna be lynched, he really has no reason to even post anything.

And I didn't say I didn't think he was scum? I said he wasn't a top suspect of mine. It's not like I can get any type of read on him if he's not posting.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
March 26 2013 18:49 GMT
#333
And yeah, I'd really like to hear Kraflas explaination of his Cop statement because I really can't figure that one out.
Krafla
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom104 Posts
March 26 2013 19:24 GMT
#334
Wait... my defense as town is to fake a blue claim? You better lynch me now then, I am not that stupid. Your either the cop and are trying to bait me into fake claiming so you can call me on it sense out of 9 people there is no way I can be the cop, or your trying to find out if I am cop, lynch someone else and then make me useless the rest of the game.


Ooh I'm glad you said this! So you're definitely not a cop then. Excellent. Please explain your first post;


On March 22 2013 12:16 TheRavensName wrote:
Hello guys... I'm going to use my opening post to say One thing and one thing only:


I haven't read any of the books after Chamber of Secrets or Watched a movie sense Goblet of fire. Am I going to have to wikipedia Dumbledores Army to get most the flavor text?


I believe this is a scum slip right from the start. You throw down a fake blue breadcrumb, that you're a 1shot watcher, to give you something to come back to later in the game. But hang on a minute, this game doesn't have any 1-shot roles. Whoops, guess I can't carry on this charade, lets hope no one spots it.
Krafla
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom104 Posts
March 26 2013 19:25 GMT
#335
Top quote from TRN obviously. Posting from my phone
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 26 2013 19:27 GMT
#336
Krafla.. What is this i dont even....

And people wonder why i dont like raven cases.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 26 2013 19:30 GMT
#337
On March 27 2013 04:24 Krafla wrote:
Show nested quote +
Wait... my defense as town is to fake a blue claim? You better lynch me now then, I am not that stupid. Your either the cop and are trying to bait me into fake claiming so you can call me on it sense out of 9 people there is no way I can be the cop, or your trying to find out if I am cop, lynch someone else and then make me useless the rest of the game.


Ooh I'm glad you said this! So you're definitely not a cop then. Excellent. Please explain your first post;


Show nested quote +
On March 22 2013 12:16 TheRavensName wrote:
Hello guys... I'm going to use my opening post to say One thing and one thing only:


I haven't read any of the books after Chamber of Secrets or Watched a movie sense Goblet of fire. Am I going to have to wikipedia Dumbledores Army to get most the flavor text?


I believe this is a scum slip right from the start. You throw down a fake blue breadcrumb, that you're a 1shot watcher, to give you something to come back to later in the game. But hang on a minute, this game doesn't have any 1-shot roles. Whoops, guess I can't carry on this charade, lets hope no one spots it.


Read the role listing, we don't even have a watchman! And a watcher and a Cop are VASTLY diferent roles. Considering you didn't even realize you were bread crumbing last game when it was so obvious you were, you should know better. And if you THOUGHT I was Bread crumbing Watcher, why would you force me to claim it or die? If I claim it I am unable to use those powers for the rest of the game, and the first post also doesn't say there are any 1 shots I don't see why you would assume I was one. And if I was one shot, I wouldn't waste it day 1 when there is not enough evidence to figure anything out, I would wait till tonight with this nice sample of posts I have to work with.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 26 2013 19:32 GMT
#338
On March 27 2013 04:27 Rainbows wrote:
Krafla.. What is this i dont even....

And people wonder why i dont like raven cases.


Rainbows, do you think this is a very poor town play from Krafia combined with him voting himself, or is this scum play trying to bait out a blue?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
March 26 2013 19:44 GMT
#339
Honestly Raven, i have no fucking clue. A town being this stupid is probably more likely than scum flailing his arms around trying to influence the lynch.

Like, its just so.... Bad....
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 26 2013 19:51 GMT
#340
On March 27 2013 04:44 Rainbows wrote:
Honestly Raven, i have no fucking clue. A town being this stupid is probably more likely than scum flailing his arms around trying to influence the lynch.

Like, its just so.... Bad....


I was thinkng so too but... then why wasn't I targeted at all? If he was sure I breadcrumbed day 1... wouldn't he have been pushing my shot or roleblocking? I was a victim of neither. Maybe I'm putting too much faith in Krafia but I still am leaning towards NW or Jarjar personally.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
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