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On March 19 2013 16:05 DoYouHas wrote: Gotta say, that instantly makes me like a zarepath lynch much less. Im not following? Its all WIFOM right? If you want more WIFOM, Kei just caught VE in hydra.... | ||
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On March 19 2013 16:11 WaveofShadow wrote: You have, I don't know how much of a vet GK is, Mr Wiggles, Mocsta.... THnx, but i am certianly not a vet.. check my profile. Started playing in the new year 2013 | ||
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On March 19 2013 16:16 WaveofShadow wrote: More so than me and most of the other 'newbies' named on his list, Mocsta. The list just looks to me like he's looking for easy scumreads to throw out there with minimal chance of being called out if he's wrong because they're either new/bad or lurky. I think you are takign the wrong approach. Dr.H i believe on the podcast is true advocate of RNG (with no host post-hoc balance).. hence. the scum team is just as likely being 5 vets and 5 newbies. . its not out of the question for 5 newbies to be his read. I think the right approach is to ask his insight to why those people are scummy.. he doesnt need a case to explain why.. just dot point aspects of play that dont sit right. Ascertain if he is being genuine with his reads, or taking the easy road. (im still on page 20 lol so i cant do this pressure.. i can only comment on things happening in the thread live) | ||
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On March 19 2013 16:16 sciberbia wrote: I highly value Keirathi's opinion. The fact that he was town means that his opinion was in fact that zarepath is town. I still think zarepath is reasonably likely to be scum, but I'm less confident than I was 2 hours ago as a result of Keirathi's townread and flip. It was pretty fuckn clear Keir was town without a flip... | ||
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On March 19 2013 16:16 sciberbia wrote: I highly value Keirathi's opinion. The fact that he was town means that his opinion was in fact that zarepath is town. I still think zarepath is reasonably likely to be scum, but I'm less confident than I was 2 hours ago as a result of Keirathi's townread and flip. Moreso. whats peculiar here is that WoS and my reads on zarepath are influenced by knowning him. Guys like you/Kei have never played with zarepath before.. What kei picked up was NOT rocket science.. im curious how he seems to be the ?first? guy pushing those view points is odd... When i get home and do my thread read: im going to pay very careful attention to who pushed zarepath | ||
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On March 19 2013 16:20 VisceraEyes wrote: I took a hit. I'm....not sure what that implies. I'm gonna sleep on it. I love you, town. Maybe scum medic saved u? | ||
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sometimes its just the simplest solution heres a pool of guys talking sense who is the LEAST likely to be protected ahh keir.. lets shoot him | ||
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On March 19 2013 16:27 Wade Fell wrote: DYH speculating that much on night actions is typically not worthwhile. I think if you're worried about the direction town is going in you're best off rereading filters with fresh eyes and advising other to do the same rather than burrowing into WIFOM Agreed in full | ||
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i dont give a shit how tired he was... | ||
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At least we know now that the fool is a town aligned role | ||
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On March 19 2013 16:36 DarthPunk wrote: SO when you claim to be a vet after you get shot you are 100% confirmed to all of us. Gents, we are at an impasse vet is stupid to crumb VE knows this Obviously u have a vested interest because of the case; but it is 3am over in the US. Best I can offer is to comment on ya case tonight once i caught up on the thread. | ||
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So in a nutshell: You dont want to lynch BH, because he is either town or scum... you substituted blue for town, but its the same thing... And... You dont want to lynch TPS because he is null after looking at 4 Exhibits ======================== Who is your vote preference this cycle? & Delving into your read of TPS accusations about opting out of town discussion Do you think TPS parked his vote on Coag, and proceeded to beat off whilst lurking? or Do you think he was trying to pressure Coag to discern his alignment? | ||
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On March 19 2013 17:08 Mocsta wrote: Indulge me.. why are guys like Coagulation being allowed to fly under the radar? On March 19 2013 21:42 sciberbia wrote: @Mocsta While filtering you I found this. I'm actually leaning town on Coag. Hence, no need to bring him up. And I suspect the rest of the thread lives in terror of having their head bitten off if they dare try to make a read on him. Anyway, if you've played with Coag before, what say you to this: I haven't played with him before so not sure. Regardless, he hasnt slipped off my radar; and with where I am up to on the thread, I have him as a null troll. Will be keeping tabs on him this cycle; sure there will most likely be at least one or two active mafia.. but the rest typically love to lurk in the shadows. With the GreyMist mislynch as my context: my goal this cycle is to look into what/whom *Wasnt* discussed. But for now, sleep  | ||
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On March 19 2013 22:03 zarepath wrote: Since VE isn't really high priority today we can just wait a day and see if mafia kill two people or not and deal with that when we get there. I am still going through filters for a full list of reads. At first I consider BH's masoning of me to be really scummy but after reading the other convos he seems legit, so I'll be looking elsewhere. zarepath And the point of this? Kei might have given you a townish read; but Im still assessing you critically. Lets see what this post says (1) Please leave VE alone (2)I am null on BH masoning me [i](not that anyone actually asked)]/i], I want to say publicly I am contributing, but simultaneously dunno who I should look into ============== Care to explain why a townie would post a crock of shit such as that? & considering the above is a big bunch of nothing... why are you so quick to "contribute" by interjecting to prevent discussion about VE? | ||
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On March 20 2013 11:19 zarepath wrote: If Ace is so amazing why hasn't he solved this game yet And I think the butthurt isn't strong enough yet, Mocsta needs to make an appearance and hurt some butts YOLO I am ashamed to admit it.. but im still only up to page 22, been flat out @ work and real life. I can keep up with the dynamics happening since I joined, but to start considering who i want to build a case on, i need the context of Day1 (which is missing) Even though the game is low on post count.. im finding it hard to read, dunno why. *I must say* I didnt care for your approach to my questioning yesterday. yes I was overtly aggressive But you proceeded to not answer the question I wrote at the end. That response isnt scummy on its own... but considering I am sure you are aware that you are on my watch list; it is surprising the effort wasnt made to satiate my thirst for knowledge. | ||
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On March 20 2013 11:07 geript wrote: Can someone make a rational reasoned case for why we're pushing Zarepath off the block entirely as well? I've seen nothing change from him and the only real reasoning saying otherwise was Keriethi's comment. I get Keriethi but is that a reason to stop pressure entirely. In my opinion the reasoning was enough to relegate zarepath to the watch actively list. i.e. pay careful attention to his actions & concentrate filter time on other suspects. ========== What I want to know from you Is what do you think of the people that instantly said "zare must be town, cos Kei flipped town" By what do i think; I actually infer: What is your opinion of the situation? i.e. is it valid reasoning? & Is this type of reasoning; alignment indicative? If so, which direction? | ||
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On March 20 2013 11:44 WaveofShadow wrote: Meh. Since I'm honestly sick of every game going the same way for me, I'm going to have a little fun with this I think. I'll leave it up to you guys: do you a) Want me to attempt to defend myself or, b) Ignore all of this shit and make everyone on this bandwagon feel really silly tomorrrow? Sigh...I always seem to bring this upon myself...you'd think I'd learn.  WoS I havent read the case on you; nor read the game in detail to know whether i agree/disagree based on your play. What i do know for certain is: I have yet to see a non-newbie town WoS keel over like this. If I contrast the above with your past 3 games - all of which I have been involved
I actually believe what you say "you're sick of every game going this way" - i.e. being cast under suspicion in non-newbie games. The problem here is the pattern of a town WoS.. when under threat, WoS says "fuck u, im town... *THIS* is the scum you should be voting for. Instead, we get a limp "Can I have permission to defend myself, or if I have to by request, I will build an alternative case". Yes frustrated town can say what you did. but. i did not read the above as a post filled with frustration. I read the post as carrying tone exemplified as more indicative of demoralization. something i would naturally correlate with scum.; in particular given your town patterns when cornered. So yes, I havent read the case, or the game in detail to judge your play.. But I have seen enough of you to sufficiently judge your response. ##Vote: WaveofShadow | ||
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On March 20 2013 11:59 sciberbia wrote: Hi all. I plan to be here for the next several hours. I agree with the general sentiment that lynching either BH or VE is dumb today as a matter of general strategy. here is no really strong evidence that either of them is scum. I don't think they should be lynch candidates. Sci.. the above is interesting.. so far the only case I noticed on VE is from DarthPunk. Henceforth, the corollary is that the DP case on VE is rubbish (i..e not really strong) Lets get context here: DP is a strong player.. after all DP does have the highest win ratio on the TL Database. And has had scum and town games that have all resulted in the same outcome.. victory With that context: Do you expect more substance from a town DP? If the case is "not strong' as you suggest, what impact does this have on your DP read? | ||
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