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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 24 2013 02:05 GMT
#2584
@Ryu:

Well, if we were to assume that scum have a recruiter, then I think that VE being recruited into scum could work. It would make sense if scum tried to shoot him N1 as a town vet, he lived, claimed vet, and then scum recruited him. With how much VE kept bringing up the shot he was supposed to have taken, I could see this fitting in. That was one of the major things that VE kept using in his defense, that he took a shot. If it wasn't VE, I probably would have killed him for it, as pushing that you were supposed to have taken a shot that much would imply that there was something off about it. So, if I was the scum team, recruiting a player who survived a shot could make a lot of sense as they get a lot of free cred.

I don't think it had anything to do with BH though, unless it was a one time use, because GK flipped town. So in this scenario, VE would be a townie who took a shot, and then was recruited by scum. I'm not sure if that's what you were thinking or not. If you had something else in mind as far as conspiracy theories go, let me know, it's fun.

re: Glurio

Basically, reading Glurio, I got the impression that he was newer to the game. Looking at his history right now, that seems like a decently fair assessment. Now, when I read his posts, I don't see any hint of coaching or direction from other players. If he was scum, I would think he would be being directed by his scum team. For example, on the first day, he goes after Sandro after he made two posts. I don't think a scum team would let one of their members do something like that, because it's pretty scummy and draws a lot of attention to yourself, attacking a player with two posts, and one who is a high profile player. There's a whole lot of stuff like that in his filter, where he just sort of does whatever and acts however he feels like, that doesn't feel at all like he has a scum team behind him or someone telling him what to do.

Other than that, his train of thought is pretty apparent. He says who he thinks is scummy, and then later on, you'll see mention of the same person again with something like a vote. Also, he isn't careful about his reads. For example, he votes WoS and calls him out, WoS claims later, and this is the post he unvotes with:
On March 21 2013 05:47 glurio wrote:
Ok i believe WoS's claim and unvote him.

There's absolutely zero covering or softening. I would expect a scum player would try to make the transition slower, and make some long winded post saying about how they just only believe WoS, or that they still have their eye on him, or something to imply that they're reluctant to unvote their scum read. Here, he just unvotes him, simple as that. His posting seems quite honest to me, there's no politicking behind it, or trying to make himself look good.

Same thing with his reads post today. He just blatantly says, "Here's two guys who flipped town and their scum reads, I'm going to look at these people. I agree with these ones, and not these ones". I think a scum player would be more careful to make his reads look original, or at least not like he was blatantly using dead town players as a starting point.

So, my read on Glurio comes mostly from the tone and style of his posts. It doesn't feel like he's being deceptive about what he's doing, and it doesn't feel like he has a scum team pulling his strings. He's not working towards some scum master goal, he's just sort of doing his own thing and posting stuff to explain where his head's at each day.

Does that make sense?
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 24 2013 04:29 GMT
#2593
You have my thoughts on every player left in the game as of this morning. Use that however you want. My town reads so far have been decently accurate, I read Vivax/Scib/GK all as town before they flipped. Unfortunately my scum reads have been very off. I feel that town's in a bad position, but it isn't unsalvageable. No one left in the game really feels like they have a strong hold over the course the town is taking, and with a lot of the spammers dead, someone with a good analysis can break the game open again for town. So, it's not like scum has town in a stranglehold where they're controlling all the lynches, it's just that the town's been so mediocre and disorganized that they haven't gotten their shit together enough yet to kill scum. So, while it looks pretty bad, I think if someone actually comes up with something good, they can at least even the game out a little.

@ryu:

Is there anything else you'd like to ask me or have me clarify before I hang?
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 24 2013 06:12 GMT
#2609
@ryu:

Ok, if I could just flip any three players I wanted right now.

It would probably be something like:

Kitaman
VE
Cosmicomics or DP

Kitaman for reasons stated, Cosmicomics/DP for another scum suspect, and then VE because he's one of the biggest question marks in the game.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 24 2013 06:54 GMT
#2610
Farewell, cruel world!

GG, Good Luck, and Have Fun!
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 30 2013 15:05 GMT
#3138
I apologize again to town for being dumb, sorry Ace.

Question though, for people in general:

Why is low posting activity linked with being scum? I'm not going to apologize for my activity, but it was silly seeing people go from calling me town to saying I'm scum because I couldn't post for a ~24 hour period. Somehow not posting got linked with being apathetic, which I don't believe to be true. I'm not saying that's the only reason people called me scum, but it was definitely a running theme, and I didn't really get it. It's also impossible to defend against without getting into off-topic arguments that serve no purpose.

Nice to see that my reads this game ended up ok, though. Shame I screwed up so badly day 2, I think things could have been different. I ended up having a whole bunch of town reads, but not having entirely strong scum reads because I find spammy people very hard to read, and I found a lot of the posters to be very forgettable when reading through the thread, so that made things harder for me.
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