• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:41
CEST 00:41
KST 07:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-67SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-64PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)11Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE17
StarCraft 2
General
Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 2/8 August World Ranking: Clem climbs to #2
Tourneys
Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25) SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-6 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion Data needed BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60
Tourneys
SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-6 2v2v2v2 Tournament [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The Clem Fan Club INnoVation Fan Club The Scarlett Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
What is a Gamer?
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4567 users

The Game [N] - Page 3

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 All
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 24 2013 02:05 GMT
#2584
@Ryu:

Well, if we were to assume that scum have a recruiter, then I think that VE being recruited into scum could work. It would make sense if scum tried to shoot him N1 as a town vet, he lived, claimed vet, and then scum recruited him. With how much VE kept bringing up the shot he was supposed to have taken, I could see this fitting in. That was one of the major things that VE kept using in his defense, that he took a shot. If it wasn't VE, I probably would have killed him for it, as pushing that you were supposed to have taken a shot that much would imply that there was something off about it. So, if I was the scum team, recruiting a player who survived a shot could make a lot of sense as they get a lot of free cred.

I don't think it had anything to do with BH though, unless it was a one time use, because GK flipped town. So in this scenario, VE would be a townie who took a shot, and then was recruited by scum. I'm not sure if that's what you were thinking or not. If you had something else in mind as far as conspiracy theories go, let me know, it's fun.

re: Glurio

Basically, reading Glurio, I got the impression that he was newer to the game. Looking at his history right now, that seems like a decently fair assessment. Now, when I read his posts, I don't see any hint of coaching or direction from other players. If he was scum, I would think he would be being directed by his scum team. For example, on the first day, he goes after Sandro after he made two posts. I don't think a scum team would let one of their members do something like that, because it's pretty scummy and draws a lot of attention to yourself, attacking a player with two posts, and one who is a high profile player. There's a whole lot of stuff like that in his filter, where he just sort of does whatever and acts however he feels like, that doesn't feel at all like he has a scum team behind him or someone telling him what to do.

Other than that, his train of thought is pretty apparent. He says who he thinks is scummy, and then later on, you'll see mention of the same person again with something like a vote. Also, he isn't careful about his reads. For example, he votes WoS and calls him out, WoS claims later, and this is the post he unvotes with:
On March 21 2013 05:47 glurio wrote:
Ok i believe WoS's claim and unvote him.

There's absolutely zero covering or softening. I would expect a scum player would try to make the transition slower, and make some long winded post saying about how they just only believe WoS, or that they still have their eye on him, or something to imply that they're reluctant to unvote their scum read. Here, he just unvotes him, simple as that. His posting seems quite honest to me, there's no politicking behind it, or trying to make himself look good.

Same thing with his reads post today. He just blatantly says, "Here's two guys who flipped town and their scum reads, I'm going to look at these people. I agree with these ones, and not these ones". I think a scum player would be more careful to make his reads look original, or at least not like he was blatantly using dead town players as a starting point.

So, my read on Glurio comes mostly from the tone and style of his posts. It doesn't feel like he's being deceptive about what he's doing, and it doesn't feel like he has a scum team pulling his strings. He's not working towards some scum master goal, he's just sort of doing his own thing and posting stuff to explain where his head's at each day.

Does that make sense?
you gotta dance
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 24 2013 04:29 GMT
#2593
You have my thoughts on every player left in the game as of this morning. Use that however you want. My town reads so far have been decently accurate, I read Vivax/Scib/GK all as town before they flipped. Unfortunately my scum reads have been very off. I feel that town's in a bad position, but it isn't unsalvageable. No one left in the game really feels like they have a strong hold over the course the town is taking, and with a lot of the spammers dead, someone with a good analysis can break the game open again for town. So, it's not like scum has town in a stranglehold where they're controlling all the lynches, it's just that the town's been so mediocre and disorganized that they haven't gotten their shit together enough yet to kill scum. So, while it looks pretty bad, I think if someone actually comes up with something good, they can at least even the game out a little.

@ryu:

Is there anything else you'd like to ask me or have me clarify before I hang?
you gotta dance
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 24 2013 06:12 GMT
#2609
@ryu:

Ok, if I could just flip any three players I wanted right now.

It would probably be something like:

Kitaman
VE
Cosmicomics or DP

Kitaman for reasons stated, Cosmicomics/DP for another scum suspect, and then VE because he's one of the biggest question marks in the game.
you gotta dance
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 24 2013 06:54 GMT
#2610
Farewell, cruel world!

GG, Good Luck, and Have Fun!
you gotta dance
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 30 2013 15:05 GMT
#3138
I apologize again to town for being dumb, sorry Ace.

Question though, for people in general:

Why is low posting activity linked with being scum? I'm not going to apologize for my activity, but it was silly seeing people go from calling me town to saying I'm scum because I couldn't post for a ~24 hour period. Somehow not posting got linked with being apathetic, which I don't believe to be true. I'm not saying that's the only reason people called me scum, but it was definitely a running theme, and I didn't really get it. It's also impossible to defend against without getting into off-topic arguments that serve no purpose.

Nice to see that my reads this game ended up ok, though. Shame I screwed up so badly day 2, I think things could have been different. I ended up having a whole bunch of town reads, but not having entirely strong scum reads because I find spammy people very hard to read, and I found a lot of the posters to be very forgettable when reading through the thread, so that made things harder for me.
you gotta dance
Prev 1 2 3 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 19m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft63
SpeCial 58
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 9339
Artosis 488
HiyA 49
Dota 2
420jenkins368
NeuroSwarm157
capcasts61
League of Legends
Doublelift4976
Counter-Strike
summit1g6895
tarik_tv3187
FalleN 3029
Other Games
Grubby2034
hungrybox650
C9.Mang0356
ToD212
White-Ra128
UpATreeSC83
XaKoH 74
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 45
• OhrlRock 1
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 39
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21260
Other Games
• imaqtpie957
• Shiphtur303
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
1h 19m
The PondCast
11h 19m
OSC
11h 19m
INu's Battles
12h 19m
Percival vs Cure
Classic vs Clem
Replay Cast
1d 1h
Escore
1d 11h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 12h
RSL Revival
2 days
herO vs SHIN
Clem vs Solar
Serral vs Rogue
RSL Revival
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
[ Show More ]
The Patches Monday
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
PiG Sty Festival
5 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-08-04
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
RSL Revival: Season 6
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W6
Escore Tournament S3: W7
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.