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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 17 2013 05:14 GMT
#341
It has nothing to do with my role and everything to do with finding and destroying the scum.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 17 2013 05:16 GMT
#343
Wade you misspelled "##Join: SAST"
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 17 2013 05:16 GMT
#344
Still there? I just joined it! LMAO My reasoning is explicit.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 17 2013 05:21 GMT
#350
On March 17 2013 14:18 TestSubject893 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 14:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
It has nothing to do with my role and everything to do with finding and destroying the scum.


So you wouldn't mind if people apply without the bold ## command then?

It's bolded for my convenience, but I filter ## so it will pull up regardless.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 17 2013 05:21 GMT
#352
On March 17 2013 14:20 Wade Fell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 14:10 TestSubject893 wrote:
BH, I'd appriciate it if you boosted your ego through winning instead of making easy meta calls.


Gee I'm sorry how many scum did I lynch during the first 2 days of the last game

To be fair, I lynched scum D1 last game. You helped, and your support was appreciated.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 17 2013 05:23 GMT
#355
Wade just got told DAAAAAYUM
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 17 2013 05:24 GMT
#358
I was the other and I disagree. It was easy as fuck. But then, I died N1 so...

Anyway BH I'm intrigued by your ideas and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. Tell me more about TestScum so that I may be a believer.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 17 2013 05:25 GMT
#360
Oh don't be like that BH Test did exactly what he had to do to win. Bitter. I am disappoint.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 17 2013 05:34 GMT
#367
I'd rather he give us his reasoning for geript and zare "lynch preference" (read: not scum reads).
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 17 2013 05:36 GMT
#369
On March 17 2013 14:33 DoYouHas wrote:
What I find suspicious about zarepath is that his suspicions and opinions feel shallow. It doesn't seem to me like he has a desire to delve into scumhunting. The one exception I found to this was when zarepath was questioning Coag in this post.

What I did learn from reading zarepath's filter is that he doesn't like people who townclaim, people who discuss the setup, and people who talk about policy (specifically SAST). Almost all of his suspicions so far (Coag exception) are people that have fallen into one of those categories.

I'm waiting on zarepath to come out strongly for a lynch candidate and provide his own reasoning, something beyond shuffling the candidate into one of those categories. He almost got there with one of his more recent posts on GK, but backed off it and then left the thread.

I agree with Scib's impression of zarepath's first post and how zarepath's dealing with TPS seems inconsistent.

I'll be around for the next hour or so reviewing GK's meta before I go to bed, let's talk.

##Join: SAST


Did you notice how he's suspicious of sandroba but agrees with sandroba that Grey is suspicious?

Like if he were town you'd think he'd mention that fact and explain his thought process on being suspicious of both.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 17 2013 05:37 GMT
#370
On March 17 2013 14:35 Wade Fell wrote:
I mean, I _assume_ a "lynch preference" is the same as a scumread, unless of course he is scum and would prefer to lynch town

Right, it's just funny how he's all about lynching Coag even if he's town to "punish" him, and simultaneously doesn't call his lynch preferences scum (or give any reasoning for them).

Just a nitpicky psychological thing. May not mean anything.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 17 2013 05:40 GMT
#373
Hey Grey is here! Whatchoo think of TestSubject Grey? One of The Team has a hardon for him and I'm looking him over now.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 17 2013 05:40 GMT
#375
On March 17 2013 14:40 DoYouHas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 14:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 17 2013 14:33 DoYouHas wrote:
What I find suspicious about zarepath is that his suspicions and opinions feel shallow. It doesn't seem to me like he has a desire to delve into scumhunting. The one exception I found to this was when zarepath was questioning Coag in this post.

What I did learn from reading zarepath's filter is that he doesn't like people who townclaim, people who discuss the setup, and people who talk about policy (specifically SAST). Almost all of his suspicions so far (Coag exception) are people that have fallen into one of those categories.

I'm waiting on zarepath to come out strongly for a lynch candidate and provide his own reasoning, something beyond shuffling the candidate into one of those categories. He almost got there with one of his more recent posts on GK, but backed off it and then left the thread.

I agree with Scib's impression of zarepath's first post and how zarepath's dealing with TPS seems inconsistent.

I'll be around for the next hour or so reviewing GK's meta before I go to bed, let's talk.

##Join: SAST


Did you notice how he's suspicious of sandroba but agrees with sandroba that Grey is suspicious?

Like if he were town you'd think he'd mention that fact and explain his thought process on being suspicious of both.


Are you talking about GK or zare?

GK, in his most recent Reads post.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 17 2013 05:42 GMT
#378
On March 17 2013 14:40 TestSubject893 wrote:
Ok, VE, I can go into a little detail.

geript:
The RNG stuff doesn't seem very indicative to me, but the tarot card speculation rubbed me the wrong way. It seems like he's posting just to post. I really don't think anyone could think that speculating about similarities to tarot cards could get us anything, so it stuck out to me as scummy.

zare:
Zare's post here basically just seems like a summary. It struck me as an attempt to just blend into the crowd. He doesn't add anything to the discussion really, but takes 3 paragraphs to do it. Very much a feigning contribution kind of post.

If I had to pick right this second I'd vote to lynch zare.

How about you give me your thoughts on the overwhelming vote leader right now, GoodKarma? Thank you for providing your lynch preferences, but those points seem a little weak and the case on GK grows stronger with every post he makes. I'd like your thoughts on why the majority of voters are wrong and we should vote for one of your guys.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 17 2013 05:46 GMT
#385
Wait wait that doesn't look the same at all. He gives a shitty summary of their play in this game and in that post he goes into detail explaining why he thinks the way he does.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 17 2013 05:50 GMT
#388
Okay, how about his blatant misrepresentation of my post, which is the only reasoning I even gave? What about his attempt to discredit my vote as "joke lynching" and "OMGUS"?

BH...BH bro I need you on the right lynch. And the right lynch is GK right now.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 17 2013 05:52 GMT
#389
On March 17 2013 14:49 Wade Fell wrote:
I will note one deviation from meta, though, and that is that town GK typically is asking questions of people and prodding a lot in thread, and this one is not. Still, though, his slow-movingness indicates town GK to me and not the quick-drawing scum GK from LVII


On March 17 2013 13:58 goodkarma wrote:
@Viscera:

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 17 2013 13:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay here's where it gets interesting. I've labeled the points and address them below.
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 17:33 goodkarma wrote:
Let's look at Viscera's "policy post." I disagree with pretty much everything he has to say in his attempt at starting a circle.:

On March 16 2013 17:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Tenets of the Super Awesome Scumhunting Team
  • Attendance
    All members of the Super Awesome Scumhunting Team are required to post at least FIVE times per phase, a total of TEN times per cycle. This is a half a page of filter per day. Failure to meet this standard will result in immediate expulsion from the team.

    #1 I'd rather have one good post than five shitty ones. Quantity =/= to quality.

  • Logistics
    All members of the Super Awesome Scumhunting Team will be expected to fill out nightly reports, due before the following Dawn phase, outlining all of his findings for the day and his most recent "Lynch List". Failure to submit this report will result in immediate expulsion from the team.

    #2 In other words: "Let's outline who we should lynch when town has no power whatsoever to lynch"... While sometimes situationally okay, it's a pretty dumb policy. Mafia can use this information better than town.

  • Compliance
    All members of the Super Awesome Scumhunting Team will be expected to vote with the Super Awesome Scumhunting Team at the end of each day unless directly specified otherwise by VisceraEyes. Failure to do so will result in immediate expulsion from the team.

    #3 Let's not blindly sheep people...



Here at the Super Awesome Scumhunting Team, we're out to find and destroy Mafia. We have a variety of programs designed to help you, the aspiring scumhunter, attain your goals of a safe and secure future for the town. Not a member of the SAST? It's easy! Just apply here in the thread using the command "##Apply: SAST"!



Anyhow, going to bed. Will be back tomorrow. I humbly request we focus on scumhunting.

Thank you and good night.


1) I now have ~5 posts this cycle. What I asked for was NOT a high volume of posts. This notion that I was somehow asking applicants to spam the thread with nonsense posts rather than high quality posts is ridiculous, and not even close to what this point was designed to inspire. So strike one.

2) Again, a complete misrepresentation of what I was asking for from applicants. What I'm asking for is a last will post, preferably just before dawn but whenever over the course of the night because players in the SAST will be prime night-hits as they'lll all be obviously town and all voting together. I'm not asking to discuss lynches exclusively at night. Strike 2.

3) A complete misrepresentation of what I was asking. The SAST is an elite core of scumhunters who will no doubt have reached a consensus on who to lynch by the end of the phase. I'm asking no one to sheep, I'm asking for players willing to discuss and agree upon a lynch before the deadline. The last line referring to myself is in case there's any cause to worry about last minute shennanigans and it's necessary to move votes - but I vow that I will be completely transparent in my thought process around this caveat, and it shouldn't be an issue anyway. Strike 3 sir.

Now what I find interesting about his disagreement post wasn't even the fact that he completely misrepresents everything I posted about. The most interesting part of this is how vehemently he disagrees with my idea, yet comes to no conclusion about my alignment based upon it. He doesn't even say it's suspicious - only that he disagrees with everything about it.

##Vote: goodkarma

He's not only actively refusing to show any evidence that he's looking for scum (in the form of reads) but he's also against my super awesome idea of a Super Awesome Scumhunting Team for misconstrued interpretation of my objectives.

Now, the really important part of my post.

The following players are being extended an open invitation to join the SAST based on their performance in the thread.

Mr. Wiggles
DoYouHas
ThePeaShooter
Wade Fell


If your name is in the above list, simply use the command ##Join: SAST in the thread and you'll immediately enjoy the benefits of a full fledged Super Awesome Scumhunter!


Is this an OMGUS vote? I find this hard to take seriously. It's one thing to be trolly in the beginning, but "joke lynching" someone is hardly appropriate or at the level of play that apparently you are capable of. I'm guessing there's more to it than this, so please elaborate.

if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 17 2013 05:55 GMT
#392
On March 17 2013 14:53 GreYMisT wrote:
TestSubject really hasn't said much of anything (hypocritical from me right?). The main thing that stands out to me about him is that a significant exchange between him and Wade Fell took place regarding punishing bad town play. TestSubject supports this argument with his main entrance post, calling for pressure against Coag. However, He doesnt attempt to pressure him at all, and really fails to significantly mention him.

I can see where he is coming from with his read on zare, but overally Test doesnt seem like the best lynch candidate to me at the moment.


I got this too. Aside from participating in a little dick waggling with BH I haven't seen much scummy from him either.

What do you think about Sandroba? He thinks you're mightily suspicious apparently.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 17 2013 06:01 GMT
#402
No he joined that pack of n00bs with Kita.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
March 17 2013 06:09 GMT
#408
On March 17 2013 15:05 Wade Fell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 15:02 TestSubject893 wrote:
On March 17 2013 14:46 TestSubject893 wrote:
On March 17 2013 14:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 17 2013 14:40 TestSubject893 wrote:
Ok, VE, I can go into a little detail.

geript:
The RNG stuff doesn't seem very indicative to me, but the tarot card speculation rubbed me the wrong way. It seems like he's posting just to post. I really don't think anyone could think that speculating about similarities to tarot cards could get us anything, so it stuck out to me as scummy.

zare:
Zare's post here basically just seems like a summary. It struck me as an attempt to just blend into the crowd. He doesn't add anything to the discussion really, but takes 3 paragraphs to do it. Very much a feigning contribution kind of post.

If I had to pick right this second I'd vote to lynch zare.

How about you give me your thoughts on the overwhelming vote leader right now, GoodKarma? Thank you for providing your lynch preferences, but those points seem a little weak and the case on GK grows stronger with every post he makes. I'd like your thoughts on why the majority of voters are wrong and we should vote for one of your guys.


Honestly, I totally null on him right now, not because of anything he's posted but because I don't really remember any of his posts and didn't take any notes on him. I guess I'll take this opportunity to look closer and get back to you.


Ok, so I was looking through his posts, feeling pretty good about him, saying to myself "I could see him being town. I'm sceptical of all this SAST stuff too.", but then BAM.

On March 17 2013 14:09 goodkarma wrote:
I would say that my stance on VE has been that he was being silly. That coag attempted to go into the group though convinced me that I needed to be sure it didn't gain momentum as it was not a very pro-town plan. I'm not against "town circles," however, if they're done right.


This doesn't make sense as town to me. Even if he thinks its dumb "being sure it doesn't get momentum" is a waste of time for anyone but scum.


Almost as much of a waste of time as your setup speculation on Ve's role in a normal game


Do you disagree with his point? What town motivation is there to "make sure it doesn't get momentum"? If it's a waste of time, it's MY waste of time, not his. Commenting on it and discrediting it does nothing to find scum, especially if he doesn't find me scummy for it.
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