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On March 21 2013 09:05 Ace wrote: seems like half this thread is people trying to get each other lynched off of grudges. This is very very common in games these days sir.
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Well it was pin-drop silent when DYH and I were talking...after he unvoted me the last time the thread freaked out. :/
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I didn't see any questions. If you're referring to the part about me outting the Mirror to the thread, here's what went down: I accepted his "offer" and then PM'd DocH saying I was done masoning him. Like, in the same breath basically. The reason I accepted his offer was to see if I could get any response in the thread, and I did it at a time after he had returned to the QT to respond so I knew he was around the thread. I was banking on him seeing my message and saying something in the thread that would confirm him TO ME but not to the thread BEFORE DocH sent him a message regarding my masonry being over.
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On March 21 2013 09:46 Ace wrote: Vivax, you aren't going to get support for a Coag lynch right now. Let a vigi handle it or leave it for tomorrow. We need to solve 1 problem at a time, not derail wagons. Says the guy trying to derail a Wiggles wagon.
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On March 21 2013 09:46 goodkarma wrote:@Viscera:Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 05:32 VisceraEyes wrote: Whatever I'm ignoring everything everyone says, making supercases and will post them up before the lynch. Hopefully they'll be of use to town when I flip. But please consider lynching into Wiggles, Ryu, Wade Fell, Darth Punk in my absence. Care to share your "supercases" with us? Later. I'm at work right now.
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On March 21 2013 10:07 Kenpachi wrote: ill admit, i got a general gist of it to stay up to topic so briefly read it but didn't go too much into anything.
Oh ya, wiggles was another hot topic for good reason. He's also a tricky dude to understand when he's scum because he very illusive as an experienced mafia player (Hes mafia every game) and I don't get a particularly good vibe of him. I have very limited experience with him being town so I have nothing to compare my vibe to. However, I don't like that in our conversation, all he proposed was a questionnaire so think about it. I generally think a barrage of questions is a shitty attempt to enter into the townie blend so FoS on him too. Vote for Wiggles if you feel that way, he's the only other person with a chance of being lynched today. WTF Ken?
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It's not a stunt Vivax what the FUCK?! I'm JUST TRYING TO PLAY TRANSPARENTLY AND I GET SHIT ON FOR IT THIS IS FUCKING DUMB
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KENPACHI VOTE FOR WIGGLES MAN DUDE MAN BRO LETS LYNCH SCUM BRO DUDE!!!
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If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
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Remember that I had no idea that it was a third party masoning until I was informed as much in the QT BY the Mirror.
It seems like a recruiting 3rd Party would just play off the masoning and recruit me in the night-phase like a dickhole instead of claim it to me. I think my meta is being used against me here.
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I have a town read on Coag. For what it's worth.
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I'm making a case on Wiggles. It's irrefutable I can assure you.
This is the time. OUR FREEDOM IS AT HAND!!!
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OH MY GOD I WOULD TOTALLY LYNCH ACE WHAT THE HOLY ************
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Like look at Ace's language.
"Look at it from our perspective. See things the way we see them."
Look at ideas he's promoting:
- Hunting Third Parties
- Town Sentiment Agrees With His Own Perception
But do you know who Ace thinks is scum? No? Because he doesn't mention finding scum at all, or find anything suspicious. He was "catching up" until my thing and now he's all "LYNCH VE HURRY QUICK HE CLAIMED 3P"
[rant]Like, I'm town. Regardless of what you think of the Mirror, I am town. Who cares what it says in those mason logs? They're MASON LOGS. But Ace is pushing this idea that "Oh VE has OBVIOUSLY got to be 3P now." Why? I'm not obviously 3P what kind of 3P even THINKS of posting hsi logs ADMITTING it? I declined joining his fucking cult, it doesn't matter what the logs say. SCUM SHOT ME YESTERDAY YOU FUCK[/rant]
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Wiggles why would scum shoot me? Why wouldn't they shoot you? UGH
##Unvote ##Vote: Ace
When I tried to write a case on Wiggles I found that I was just making shit up each time. I just want to live. ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif)
But I toooootes think Ace is scum. I did before Wiggles case, but I too scared
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Everyone should vote for Ace. He's definitely scum. Regardless of what you think of me or my dumbass shenanigans, scum shot me last night. They shot me for a reason. And Ace is pushing for my lynch. Why? Even if he suspects that I've joined some third party cult, the fact remains that scum wanted me dead for some reason last night. And regardless of what you think of me and my shenanigans, that means something. And Ace is also vehemently pushing for my lynch.
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Think about it. Why all of a sudden is lynching VE a priority? EVEN IF I joined some 3rd party cult why would lynching me take priority over lynching scum? That doesn't even make sense, because scum tried to KILL ME last night. Why would killing the person scum tried to kill N1 take priority over lynching OR EVEN DISCUSSING scum? Where is Ace? Who does he think is scum OUTSIDE of the whole VE thing?
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On March 21 2013 13:47 Mocsta wrote: Even if wiggles case on Ace reads well...
quite a few had a scum read on him how can you proceed to vote for your scum reads case; and not even scrutinise either the case itself, or wiggles agenda?
Best case scenario: We lynch scum Ace.. does Wiggles become confirmed town?
Worst case scenario: We lynch mislynch Ace.. what happens to Wiggles? you guys didnt critique the case, he gets to walk away scot-free.
Why are you using hypothetical scenarios as a determining factor in THIS lynch? Why can't we judge Wiggles further play and decide based on that whether he's scum or not after lynching Ace based on Wiggles case if you think it's good?
It's a good case, and I fully endorse it. Ace is scum.
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On March 21 2013 14:11 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2013 14:07 Mocsta wrote: (1) I dont think the solid makes a lot of worst-case leaps of faith
(2) Since when you do you vote for your scum reads suspect?.. YOU KNWO THIS.. IN NOMINATION MAFIA AS SCUM.. U DROPPED YOUR SCUM READ ON PALMAR, TO FOLLOW PALMAR SCUM READ: PRPLHZ
EBWOP (1) I dont htink the case is solid as it makes a lot of worst-case leaps of faith Explain
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geript: Ace is scum. The third party thing is irrelevant. Completely. The only reason I made a big deal about it was because I felt like I was being ignored. But the fact is that if I EVER had any intention of joining a third party faction, or had any inclination that I ALREADY HAD been inducted into a third party faction, I certainly wouldn't post a log that INCLUDES me accepting his offer. There's no reason for me to do that as any alignment but town.
Now, factor everything in. I was shot at last night. Ace has trouble finding scum reads. A wild anonymous mason appears. VE shits up the thread. Ace suddenly wants to lynch VE? The third party thing MEANS NOTHING. Why would Ace prioritize lynching a possible 3rd party over finding scum?
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