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On March 09 2013 03:05 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:I don't think scum is in Thrawn. I'm infinitely paranoid of Prom, but we'll see who gets NK if we mislynch. Scum is either Artanis or Dandel. There's not much of a case to be made for Dandel, mainly because he hasn't done anything. He didn't vote for Jay, and Jay wouldn't vote for him (only talk smack about him) He was, however, super willing to get the vivax lynch going. There are a few nuances that make me think Dandel is scum: Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 10:46 Dandel Ion wrote:On March 05 2013 10:43 Hapahauli wrote:On March 05 2013 10:42 Dandel Ion wrote:
Hmm, should the second blue be a named VT too, it might be worth it to claim now.
Twice as likely it's a real blue though. So, meh. Nah not worth it. If there's a 2nd one about, you want to keep scum paranoid about a doctor or cop as long as possible. If there's a second named, scum already know the setup in the first place, right? Since they'd have a roleblocker, and one named is already claimed. So of two rb setups, they already know the real one. At this point, having a "confirmed" town might be better. Also, if it then turns out there's a power-blue left over, we'd have easy pickings. I want the easy way. + Show Spoiler +this assuming drh is actually named vt. Which is... likely. Coincidence scum had a roleblocker, mayber, but it seems like Dandel knew the setup. Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 06:47 Dandel Ion wrote:On March 06 2013 06:44 Vivax wrote:
Prom is actually fine when people are all casual and never post something useful on their own.
What a coincidence.
Dandel, why is DrH supposed to be something else from what he claimed? It's not that he's supposed to be. Named VT fakeclaim is just possible as mafia. Not too risky either. Real blues won't counterclaim, named vt will still think it's a real setup. Not discreditin' DrH here, tho it prolly sounded like that. w/e. Why the heck would Dandel even think about this? Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 06:51 Dandel Ion wrote:On March 06 2013 06:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On March 06 2013 06:46 Promethelax wrote:
yes it is, look at LIX for an example of his insane but town play vs fruity or lviii for his calm demeanor scum play. I'd say Vivax is one of the best scum players I've seen develop recently.
His recent town play in NMM IV was pretty decent and not totally nuts but I still find his meta deeply indicative of a sum vivax. I want to see Artanis push his reads more though. I hate this kind of play. @Dandel Ion There are too many traps for a counterclaim. I'm not 100% confirmed unless I die, of course, but it would be a real bonehead move and my scum play is very careful regarding my own posting. I like to bus the shit out of my teammates and never claim. That, imo depends on the setup. I can see a 2goon team fakeclaiming NamedT. Again, I'm not disbelieving YOUR claim atm, that was a bit too stupid to be scum, but it's healthy to not completely forget about that stuff. He believes the claim, but he's speculating on whether or not the claim could be scum motivated...?? HERE'S WHERE IT GETS INTERESTING :3Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 09:12 Dandel Ion wrote:
Going to sleep, guess I should unvote..
I'm still down for lynching vivax or jay.
Toodles.
##Unvote ^ "Hey guys I want to lynch Vivax or Jay soon" Next post, after he wakes up: Show nested quote +On March 07 2013 08:28 Dandel Ion wrote:
Bah, Prom is spouting nonsense.
I am town, so is CC.
I nominate vivax, prome and thrawn as the Triumvirate of Lynch. Preferrably starting with Vivax. ^ "Hey guys I want to lynch Vivax, prom, or Thrawn!" WHERE'D JAY GO? :3 After the red flip: Show nested quote +On March 08 2013 01:27 Dandel Ion wrote:On March 08 2013 01:21 Vivax wrote:
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His preference of lynch choice is scummy cause it doesn't coincide with what other people thought would be the more likely to be scum, pretty obviously I think it's cause he didn't want to lynch his scumbuddy over me. wat sry for not sheeping others enough I guess. I did want to lynch you over jay tho. I was down for jay too but by the time I came back to the thread, jay has been lynched for hours already. What's a brother to do. He was NOT in the triumvirate of lynches Dandel posted. He never wanted to lynch Jay. ##Unvote:
##Vote: Dandel IonBecause scum. Time to claim town roleblocker, Dandel.
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I'm town Roleblocker!
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On March 06 2013 10:22 jaybrundage wrote:
Vivax last posts seem geniune. Also i respect Hapa's opinion alot.
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##Vote Thrawn
Thrawn's scum meta is lurking HARD. So far he has fit the bill perfectly. As i can recall he said at the beginning that he didn't look at his role pm. And when he does look at it he starting his lurking marathon. If you look at Normal Mini IV Iamp called out thrawn on it. And lo and behold thrawn was scum.
Jay's second scumread was Dandel. He stops suspecting Vivax, says nothing about Dandel and joins the bus on Thrawn
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On March 06 2013 13:37 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 13:23 Hapahauli wrote:On March 06 2013 13:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On March 06 2013 13:06 Hapahauli wrote:
Need m0ar non-Jay reads CC You know how this works Hapa. You ask me to give reads. I goof off and tunnel Yamato (or vice versa) Ok well anyway regardless of Jay, there is still at least one other scum afoot. Who do you think that scum is and why? UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUgh you make me do things. Idk. I'll shine a great beam of light on the situation later. I'll be happy with any lynch that is Vivax / Jay / Artanis (maybe?) / Prom. Basically half the thread, which is cool. Jay is the optimal starting point. I get most of my information from people pressuring me, which sucks because nobody has. I just want to get into an 'loluscum' match with Jay which will be fun. Hey Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay, tunnel me bro you think I'm suspicious don'tcha?
What changed your mind?
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That was on day 1.
You know, events in the thread changed my mind.
Vivax has fipped. Jay has flipped. Prom is prolly town because everyone( including Hapa) said he was and he looks like he actually gives two shits. You... if Dandel isn't scum then you are.
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But cheese, most of the posts you quoted in your analysis there are from Day 1, yet you went from calling half the thread more suspicious than him to calling him more suspicious than the person that hammered a townie, which you found a very compelling argument just a bit ago. Do you feel the new posts warrant this high level of suspicion or were you just too lazy to read properly before?
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Or, the third option could be that you realized after Prome's post that hammering me was going to be more difficult than you thought and you know you need two mislynches, killing Dandel today, shooting Prome at night then convincing Thrawn to lynch me wouldn't be a bad plan for scum.
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It's all WIFOM if you think I'm scum, but whatever.
I never looked chronologically at Dandel's posts, in fact, I barely read them. I had Dandel written off as troll town since the Dr.H votes. Taking them all into consideration makes sense. He keeps saying he wanted to lynch Dandel, but you can clearly see that was never his intention at all.
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In regards to me being lazy or not doing anything this game. I work 2 jobs and go to school full time, shits hard to fit in but I like playing so I make time. I had to drop out of coaching for the newbie partly because of this.
I don't have much time, but in short we should totes lynch Dandel today.
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Like seriously Dandel, how many shits have you given about towns anything so far? Even when you're trolling as town you usually give some sort of direction or are somewhat pushing reads.
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On March 09 2013 03:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
In regards to me being lazy or not doing anything this game. I work 2 jobs and go to school full time, shits hard to fit in but I like playing so I make time. I had to drop out of coaching for the newbie partly because of this.
I don't have much time, but in short we should totes lynch Dandel today.
No offense, but if you don't have the time to put in more effort than you really shouldn't be playing.
That said, I like the posts you've made. They feel genuine. I'm going to wait for Prome to return and read Day1 back again before I attach conclusions to it though.
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I try to dedicate as much time as possible, because I enjoy playing. In nomination I was going to the library every day just to keep posting as scum.
As town, I can usually get away with posting less. I've never been lynched, oddly enough, as either alignment (barring one newbie game where I claimed VT d1 lol)
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On March 09 2013 03:57 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Like seriously Dandel, how many shits have you given about towns anything so far? Even when you're trolling as town you usually give some sort of direction or are somewhat pushing reads.
Round about 3, I'd wager.
give or take one.
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On March 09 2013 02:14 Promethelax wrote:
I'm pretty sure you are green Artanis. Your meta suggests it strongly. As hapa said in haunted and in LI you were lurker extraordinaire where as here you care and are trying to find scum, you are active, interested and for now I'm sticking with my green read on you.
I have some rules for today.
1) No one gets to hammer until I say so, we're not having a day without discussion again. I thought I was going to have to fight tooth and nail for the Vivax lynch yesterday but instead he got hammered while I was writing the second part of my case.
2)The lynch is between Dan and CC. Thrawn, you and I are having a long talk post game about your reads.
3) Dan and CC, you both need to make a case on the other one.
4) I will provide my case on the one I feel is scummier in 15-16 hours when I get back from work.
all hail the mighty prom who bet his love life that vivax was scum
prom how's this? we lynch artanis today, then dandel next if artanis is green? i might be persuaded to do it the other way around but it's not likely
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prom is there anything about artanis' play other than meta that makes you think he's town? lets look at his actions thus far:
D1: doesn't talk about jay except for his last post in D1, which basically said "jay looks bad but lets give him time to imrpove"
D2: had a town read on vivax, hammered vivax
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##Vote: Artanis
if this is a mislynch, whoever is left DO NOT lynch prom or CC. DON'T DO IT!
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D1 I wanted to give him a chance to spill some reads and try to give us leads whether he's town or scum, how is that in any way scummy? I was happy to lynch him if it turned out to be nothing.
D2 I explained that already. I got frustrated with Vivax and Prome appealing to my emotions as well as the FoS thing I pointed out in D1 still in the back of my mind triggered me into a fuck it vote.
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And you still fail to explain how my play makes sense from a scum perspective in any way.
HOW DOES MY PLAY MAKE SENSE FOR A SINGLE SCUM THAT NEEDS TO SURVIVE TWO MORE LYNCHES
protip: it doesn't.
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Artanis, who do you actually want to lynch? You seem to be coasting along and agreeing with other people's arguments while not putting much forth yourself? Who is your top scumread?
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Dandel is my top read at the moment. My first post on this page and last post on the last page are main reasons. Also process of elimination. Prome seems certain you're not scum and I'm too lazy to bother.
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You can lynch me tomorrow if I'm wrong, whatever.
But today we should lynch Artanis.
Hue.
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