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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 12 2013 17:31 GMT
#1781
Vivax.
Do you note the difference in time?

So he votes for yamato at
9.40.

Then SnB asks him why, he explains.
at 9.44
Then his next post on the subject is 18.20.

Also inbetween, he is doing his nonsensical defense of you.
I do not call that pushing.

No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 12 2013 17:32 GMT
#1782
On March 13 2013 02:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, I'm back. I'll shower tonight, this is IMPORTANT!

My problem with yamato has always been the fact that I wasn't certain he was town really fast. Look at the scumQT in Nomination: in spite of slOosh and some other townie, I advised AGAINST going after yamato because he was, by my estimation, the greenest player in the game. Granted, I knew he was town, but based on what I saw in the thread, I knew that if he were put under pressure, he would bring the fucking pain...and he did...to my chagrin. But this game I have had no such certainty of his alignment. I don't know how much of that has to do with roleplaying, or the circumstances in the game, but that's the core of my problem with Yamato this game: he's not obviously town to me.


what do you think of his play this night phase? I think it's been much better and has made me feel better about yamato.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 12 2013 17:33 GMT
#1783
Same. Although to be fair, it's not hard to look good when you've got this Foolish/Vivax thing going on.

But yeah, I'm feeling better about yamato too. What I don't get is slOosh' certainty of Yamato's guilt. What's that about?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22106 Posts
March 12 2013 17:34 GMT
#1784
On March 13 2013 02:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
Vivax.
Do you note the difference in time?

So he votes for yamato at
9.40.

Then SnB asks him why, he explains.
at 9.44
Then his next post on the subject is 18.20.

Also inbetween, he is doing his nonsensical defense of you.
I do not call that pushing.



Tell me the time intervals he should have between his posts for you to be considered pushing.

Oats please don't be town, please.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18160 Posts
March 12 2013 17:35 GMT
#1785
On March 13 2013 02:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 02:24 Acrofales wrote:
On March 13 2013 02:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 13 2013 02:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oats what are your thoughts on the hyperveterans? I'm referring here to BC, Ver and Foolishness. Just your objective, gut response is all I'm after here, I'm not asking you to reread them and give me full reads.


Ver is town I think, cause I think as scum he would give more of a fuck
Like his activity goes beyond lurking, this is just inactivity.

BC is also town same as ^^, also he seems to want to pick fights with everyone when he does post.
I wish he would play the game though :/


Foolishness is probably scum for lying about Marv and 180ing in a horrible way.
Also defended Vivax for no reason.


How the hell do you have a meta town read on Ver. Like... HOW IN THE WORLD DOES THAT HAPPEN?

SOO MUCH STUPID IN THIS GAME!!!


Go and explain why the 'vettiest' player in TL mafia ups and posts less than 5 posts as scum. Go on, do it.

Go and explain that same for town. Go on, do it. While Ver is known as a "sit back and analyse" scumhunter, he is fucking good at it and nails scum left right and center. Where has he done that this game?

He also pushes his reads. Where has he done that this game?

Anyway, my first post read of Ver still stands. Ver is scum because he is trying to dodge any responsibility. He has not done any of the fabled scumhunting he is so famed for. How the fuck can you have a town read on him?

If you think inactivity is a town tell you are too stupid to talk to. Did you not JUST get done playing Duel mafia with Keirathi the inactive? And CT with Sandroba the inactive? And for that matter, Parallel Universe with Foolishness the inactive?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 12 2013 17:35 GMT
#1786
On March 13 2013 02:34 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 02:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
Vivax.
Do you note the difference in time?

So he votes for yamato at
9.40.

Then SnB asks him why, he explains.
at 9.44
Then his next post on the subject is 18.20.

Also inbetween, he is doing his nonsensical defense of you.
I do not call that pushing.



Tell me the time intervals he should have between his posts for you to be considered pushing.

Oats please don't be town, please.


The point is there is no continuation with his vote.

He votes yamato and forgets about it.

Also you only gave 1 scum read.
Stop fucking ignoring it or give reasons why Foolishness is town other than he buddied you.


No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 12 2013 17:35 GMT
#1787
On March 13 2013 02:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
Same. Although to be fair, it's not hard to look good when you've got this Foolish/Vivax thing going on.

But yeah, I'm feeling better about yamato too. What I don't get is slOosh' certainty of Yamato's guilt. What's that about?


Completely torn. Remember when he was so certain you were mafia in NMM2 that he actually misrepresented your posts coming up to deadline to ensure your lynch? It was so tunnelled and braindead (sorry slOosh) but he was town there.

It's like what Hiro just asked really. If slOosh is only gonna talk about yamato, that's obviously a problem.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 12 2013 17:38 GMT
#1788
On March 13 2013 02:35 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 02:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 13 2013 02:24 Acrofales wrote:
On March 13 2013 02:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 13 2013 02:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oats what are your thoughts on the hyperveterans? I'm referring here to BC, Ver and Foolishness. Just your objective, gut response is all I'm after here, I'm not asking you to reread them and give me full reads.


Ver is town I think, cause I think as scum he would give more of a fuck
Like his activity goes beyond lurking, this is just inactivity.

BC is also town same as ^^, also he seems to want to pick fights with everyone when he does post.
I wish he would play the game though :/


Foolishness is probably scum for lying about Marv and 180ing in a horrible way.
Also defended Vivax for no reason.


How the hell do you have a meta town read on Ver. Like... HOW IN THE WORLD DOES THAT HAPPEN?

SOO MUCH STUPID IN THIS GAME!!!


Go and explain why the 'vettiest' player in TL mafia ups and posts less than 5 posts as scum. Go on, do it.

Go and explain that same for town. Go on, do it. While Ver is known as a "sit back and analyse" scumhunter, he is fucking good at it and nails scum left right and center. Where has he done that this game?

He also pushes his reads. Where has he done that this game?

Anyway, my first post read of Ver still stands. Ver is scum because he is trying to dodge any responsibility. He has not done any of the fabled scumhunting he is so famed for. How the fuck can you have a town read on him?

If you think inactivity is a town tell you are too stupid to talk to. Did you not JUST get done playing Duel mafia with Keirathi the inactive? And CT with Sandroba the inactive? And for that matter, Parallel Universe with Foolishness the inactive?


The point is keirathi tried to post. Failed.
Sandro tried to post, got caught out early.
Didnt read parallel, though I would imagine its the same thing.

Ver has done no pushing of any sort.

OK I might have said that wrongly, I dont have a strong town read on him, but I dont think there is anyway Ver is flipping scum.

How many times do I have to say that his first post was a joke? Or if it wasnt, its not alignment indicative ANYWAY cause he didnt read his fucking role pm.
No gg, No skill.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22106 Posts
March 12 2013 17:38 GMT
#1789
On March 13 2013 02:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 02:34 Vivax wrote:
On March 13 2013 02:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
Vivax.
Do you note the difference in time?

So he votes for yamato at
9.40.

Then SnB asks him why, he explains.
at 9.44
Then his next post on the subject is 18.20.

Also inbetween, he is doing his nonsensical defense of you.
I do not call that pushing.



Tell me the time intervals he should have between his posts for you to be considered pushing.

Oats please don't be town, please.


The point is there is no continuation with his vote.

He votes yamato and forgets about it.

Also you only gave 1 scum read.
Stop fucking ignoring it or give reasons why Foolishness is town other than he buddied you.




There is a continuation with his vote you quoted it yourself he comes in several hours later still backing a yamato lynch.
Foolishness IS pushing yamato, he's pushing scumreads and townreads your whole argument is paper.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 12 2013 17:39 GMT
#1790
On March 13 2013 02:35 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 02:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
Same. Although to be fair, it's not hard to look good when you've got this Foolish/Vivax thing going on.

But yeah, I'm feeling better about yamato too. What I don't get is slOosh' certainty of Yamato's guilt. What's that about?


Completely torn. Remember when he was so certain you were mafia in NMM2 that he actually misrepresented your posts coming up to deadline to ensure your lynch? It was so tunnelled and braindead (sorry slOosh) but he was town there.

It's like what Hiro just asked really. If slOosh is only gonna talk about yamato, that's obviously a problem.


Conversely, my utter manipulation of him in Nom may be factoring into his play too if he's town. :/

Yeah I agree...so don't lynch tomorrow then is basically where slOosh stands for me. If he refuses to contribute anything but a yamato tunnel tomorrow, feel free to open fire or lynch D3. Agreed?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 12 2013 17:41 GMT
#1791
Crossfire. Who has links for me? I'm not familiar with his play, and I don't know what games he's played.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 12 2013 17:42 GMT
#1792
He pushed 1 town read.

Apathetically watched WBG get lynched with his vote on yamato.

Is this inaccurate?
No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 12 2013 17:42 GMT
#1793
On March 13 2013 02:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 02:35 marvellosity wrote:
On March 13 2013 02:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
Same. Although to be fair, it's not hard to look good when you've got this Foolish/Vivax thing going on.

But yeah, I'm feeling better about yamato too. What I don't get is slOosh' certainty of Yamato's guilt. What's that about?


Completely torn. Remember when he was so certain you were mafia in NMM2 that he actually misrepresented your posts coming up to deadline to ensure your lynch? It was so tunnelled and braindead (sorry slOosh) but he was town there.

It's like what Hiro just asked really. If slOosh is only gonna talk about yamato, that's obviously a problem.


Conversely, my utter manipulation of him in Nom may be factoring into his play too if he's town. :/

Yeah I agree...so don't lynch tomorrow then is basically where slOosh stands for me. If he refuses to contribute anything but a yamato tunnel tomorrow, feel free to open fire or lynch D3. Agreed?


If he's still only tunnelling yamato 3/4 way through Day 2 he might be a good lynch, but generally yea.

slOosh is very capable of looking townie as town, and conversely he finds it very very hard to do so as mafia. So I don't think there's gonna be a slOosh 'problem'.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
March 12 2013 17:43 GMT
#1794
On March 13 2013 02:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Crossfire. Who has links for me? I'm not familiar with his play, and I don't know what games he's played.


He played in Aperture 2, it was kind of a weird game and he was a member of a hidden 2nd scum team.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 12 2013 17:45 GMT
#1795
On March 13 2013 02:43 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 02:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Crossfire. Who has links for me? I'm not familiar with his play, and I don't know what games he's played.


He played in Aperture 2, it was kind of a weird game and he was a member of a hidden 2nd scum team.


Whose Line Is It Anyway - town
Themed Mafia - mafia
MTG 2 - mafia

the main reason I (we? everyone?) didn't lynch him was because his last minute pop in to the thread seemed genuine. Now I'm not so sure about that at all.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 12 2013 17:46 GMT
#1796
Going to sleep, Ill be up at deadline to see what else you monkeys post.

No gg, No skill.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22106 Posts
March 12 2013 17:47 GMT
#1797
On March 13 2013 02:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
He pushed 1 town read.

Apathetically watched WBG get lynched with his vote on yamato.

Is this inaccurate?


He didn't spam up the thread asking for a yamato lynch, that would be accurate. But you initially said he didn't push anything, now you admit he did, so you should know that part of your argument for him being scum doesn't hold, don't you?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 12 2013 17:49 GMT
#1798
On March 13 2013 02:47 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 02:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
He pushed 1 town read.

Apathetically watched WBG get lynched with his vote on yamato.

Is this inaccurate?


He didn't spam up the thread asking for a yamato lynch, that would be accurate. But you initially said he didn't push anything, now you admit he did, so you should know that part of your argument for him being scum doesn't hold, don't you?


this is really dumb nitpicking. stop it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18160 Posts
March 12 2013 17:49 GMT
#1799
On March 13 2013 01:55 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 01:52 Acrofales wrote:
Oh, and one other thing. What "balance" reason can anybody come up with for giving a scum a modconfirmed DT check? If the DT check was also Yamato, how the fuck does that work as scum? And if he got it, why in god's name would he EVER use it?


foolishness or radfield role is town powers but scum aligned, they're well known for being amazing as town but both terrible as scum and hating to play scum.

like how wbg role was town powers but scum aligned

the day vig would have been the hidden "beneficial" side of the power, he wouldn't have been told about it until after the public dt check happened.

I thought you were pretty levelheaded and townie at the time, but this post is not making sense to me.

WBG's role was survivor, not scum aligned. His powers were meh. Unless you are talking about Kurumi, in which case he was town aligned, not scum aligned at all.

The impression I got from Yamato is that he knew all along what his power would do. Now, why would scum get a DT check? It makes no sense. Even if it is combined with a dayvig. Either Yamato is lying about how his power works, or he is town. The role makes NO sense for scum.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 12 2013 17:51 GMT
#1800
On March 13 2013 02:45 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 02:43 HiroPro wrote:
On March 13 2013 02:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Crossfire. Who has links for me? I'm not familiar with his play, and I don't know what games he's played.


He played in Aperture 2, it was kind of a weird game and he was a member of a hidden 2nd scum team.


Whose Line Is It Anyway - town
Themed Mafia - mafia
MTG 2 - mafia

the main reason I (we? everyone?) didn't lynch him was because his last minute pop in to the thread seemed genuine. Now I'm not so sure about that at all.

This describes my feelings too. I've had lingering doubts about Crossfire based on how he was roleplaying early on - then he came back and it looked like he was going to contribute, but then roleplayed some more. Then he came back and was suprsrsmode - and he was on the block.

Like, everyone has a vested interest in not getting lynched, but it just seems to me that we wouldn't have been in a position where Xfire was up for lynch if he'd played the way he was playing at lynch time like, all day.

I'm gonna go peruse those games, let me know your thoughts on his meta (since you seem to be familiar already) while I'm gone.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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