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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 11 2013 13:25 GMT
#801
On March 11 2013 17:14 Vivax wrote:
Well I'm wary of agreeing with VE given the dishonest way he's posting arguments for my lynch , I'll take a look at Bugs later when I'm back but one argument that comes to my mind spontaneously is that he kept pushing Kurumi after the announcement came so it looks strange to me that he would keep pushing him as scum knowing the announcement was right when the mod says otherwise to the whole thread, so that kinda put him on the town side of things.

Otherwise, if you are scum yamato then your teammates knew that the announcement was right and I'm looking at people saying Kurumi was modconfirmed without doubting the announcement, marv especially. But that's for a lot later, I'll look at your future play now.


Was just flicking through Vivax's filter to see how I felt about Foolish. Came across this bit. Just means I'm better than you bish, no hard feelings though <3

I don't particularly see what Foolish thinks he sees.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 11 2013 13:33 GMT
#802
Well I wanted to know what Mocsta thought about it considering that it could be construed as scummy

Nothing to do with Ver.
No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 11 2013 13:35 GMT
#803
Alright, that sounds fine. Your filter is full of suspicion so I'm gonna call you town at the moment. Partly because I'm fucking desperate for town-reads this game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 11 2013 13:42 GMT
#804
I suppose you have something to say about my post on Vivax marv?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 11 2013 13:43 GMT
#805
On March 11 2013 22:35 marvellosity wrote:
Alright, that sounds fine. Your filter is full of suspicion so I'm gonna call you town at the moment. Partly because I'm fucking desperate for town-reads this game.


Um Yay?

Why are you not pushing dudes considering you dont have a lot of town reads?
No gg, No skill.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 11 2013 13:44 GMT
#806
He's got a lot of 'null' reads. Duh.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 11 2013 13:45 GMT
#807
On March 11 2013 22:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
He's got a lot of 'null' reads. Duh.


VE VOTE FOR EVERYBODY!!!!!!

I dont see why WBG doesnt have like 15 votes on him. How is he town"?
No gg, No skill.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 11 2013 13:48 GMT
#808
I'm trying to vote all the scum. I'm trying very hard not to vote for townies. And no one seems to want to help except for Promethelax, who can only do so in measured meter.

Is your vote on him? I'm too lazy to look.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 11 2013 13:49 GMT
#809
On March 11 2013 22:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
I suppose you have something to say about my post on Vivax marv?


I agree with Vivax that he did push Corazon, and as I'm still quite suspicious of Corazon myself it makes me like Vivax more. At the same time I'm concerned about his lack of aggression. He took up yamato and dropped it again after the role mechanic was revealed, so now I don't know where he stands.

On March 11 2013 22:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 22:35 marvellosity wrote:
Alright, that sounds fine. Your filter is full of suspicion so I'm gonna call you town at the moment. Partly because I'm fucking desperate for town-reads this game.


Um Yay?

Why are you not pushing dudes considering you dont have a lot of town reads?


I'll be working on the game extensively today to try to figure some shit out (indeed I'm currently doing so). I'm aware I've not been a shining beacon of helpfulness so far.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
March 11 2013 13:51 GMT
#810
On March 11 2013 13:18 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 12:53 Promethelax wrote:
On March 11 2013 12:48 Stutters695 wrote:
@oats: hiro has never witnessed my greatness, that's not surprising. Interesting he hasn't said anything about it since however.


please help me young stutters
I have a plan my brother
it involves you telling me who you suspect
who do you want to get the rope 'round their neck?
I don't know who it is you want to smother.

Hiro is not the traitor we seek today. More than this I can't really say.

considering you haven't said much of anything maybe you should elaborate

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Can anyone honestly say that it looks like stutters is scum hunting? He is Not This is a great lynch and should be getting a whole lot more attention then it currently is. What are you guys going to do when im dead when i will be unable to point these obvious things out to you since i will be a prime night target.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 11 2013 13:52 GMT
#811
you've only made 14 posts, you are certainly not a prime nightkill target.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 11 2013 13:54 GMT
#812
Marv could you spell out your suspicion of Cora for me? Like, for me? I know whatever it's in your filter, but if you mean it you can just repeat it for me bish do it.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 11 2013 13:58 GMT
#813
And to add to that, I'm fully aware that you didn't answer my previous question in the slightest. So please answer this one as completely as you can.

Vivax suspicion of Cora is a joke, and Mocsta's was too. I want you to convince me that Cora is scum.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
March 11 2013 13:59 GMT
#814
On March 11 2013 22:52 marvellosity wrote:
you've only made 14 posts, you are certainly not a prime nightkill target.

implying that wity one liners are quality posts. Spam should not be encouraged and detailed analysis is the way to go. I am night kill target because of the quality of player that i am.

Also after the lynch i will tell you where all night actions should be directed. But lets stay course and maybe you could join me in killing stutters?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 11 2013 13:59 GMT
#815
On March 11 2013 22:51 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 13:18 Stutters695 wrote:
On March 11 2013 12:53 Promethelax wrote:
On March 11 2013 12:48 Stutters695 wrote:
@oats: hiro has never witnessed my greatness, that's not surprising. Interesting he hasn't said anything about it since however.


please help me young stutters
I have a plan my brother
it involves you telling me who you suspect
who do you want to get the rope 'round their neck?
I don't know who it is you want to smother.

Hiro is not the traitor we seek today. More than this I can't really say.

considering you haven't said much of anything maybe you should elaborate

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Can anyone honestly say that it looks like stutters is scum hunting? He is Not This is a great lynch and should be getting a whole lot more attention then it currently is. What are you guys going to do when im dead when i will be unable to point these obvious things out to you since i will be a prime night target.


Can anyone honestly say that it looks like Iamp is scum hunting? He is Not very much
Why is your posting so different from your town games and so alike your scum games Iamp?
No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 11 2013 14:08 GMT
#816
On March 11 2013 22:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Marv could you spell out your suspicion of Cora for me? Like, for me? I know whatever it's in your filter, but if you mean it you can just repeat it for me bish do it.


Yes, of course.

On March 11 2013 01:44 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 01:28 Kurumi wrote:
##Shoot cDgCorazon
##Nuke cDgCorazon
##Kill cDgCorazon
##DayVig cDgCorazon
##Burn cDgCorazon
##Murder cDgCorazon


Fucking hell hosts learn to balance the game...


Whether explained away as a 'joke' or not, this feels forced.

Then I don't like at all his attitude towards Oats:

On March 11 2013 06:20 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 06:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 11 2013 05:59 cDgCorazon wrote:
Hmmm...guess who has decided to lurk now that other targets are being hunted? Yamato and Acro...

##Vote: Yamato

Gonna start scumhunting?


Does this not describe your play too? Did you not just delurk to call out Yam/Acro for something you yourself were guilty of?

What do you think of the "other targets being hunted"?


I think Strongandbig's argument is very good. It's very convincing, but we are still a long time away from the deadline. Other than that, I've just seen a lot of nonsense and posts that I cannot understand.

I was the first one to start scum hunting, don't accuse me of not doing that...

Also, it's a bit frustrating to try and scumhunt and then have 5 people complain that no one has scumhunted...


Sounds like Corazon agrees a lot with the case, so Oats is probably mafia. Kinda fine I guess. But...

On March 11 2013 08:06 cDgCorazon wrote:

Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 07:08 marvellosity wrote:
On March 11 2013 06:47 Kurumi wrote:
oh I will repeat that
I AM A SCUM ROLE AND I AM TOWN ALIGNED AND I WANT TO DIE SO WE CAN AVOID THE POSSIBILITY OF ME BEING A MOLE
thanks


so, if you're intent on being lynched, why don't you tell us what your role is?

hi s&b. we're not lynching Oats today and to be honest I only barely skimmed your case. $10 says that what you said is probably valid, but it doesn't make Oats mafia.

By far the most interesting result of the case is that Corazon agrees with it, despite having played with Oats before (more than once I think?).

Corazon, why don't you tell me in your own words why you think Oats is mafia, why don't you tell me how Oats' play is different this game than in Hiro's game. thanks bish.


Dude, this shitty logic is bad for your standards Marv. Why are you attacking me for having the same view as you? We literally just said the same thing (like the case but don't want to vote for it). You are saying that you are not going to vote because it does not make Oats mafia and I said I'd rather see Yamato lynched than Oats. What is the problem with that?

The thing is, Oats' meta is not the main part of the case. BnS laid out many reasons as to why he thinks Oats is scum and I just made a comment that I liked his case and that it had a lot of valid points in it.

Let me ask you this Marv: Would you rather I...

Say "I agree with SnB" and just vote for Oats?

or

Say "I think it's a good case but I'm going to continue to scumhunt and push my top scum read"

If you prefer #1 it would be such a glaring scumtell.


Kinda everything in here is a misrepresentation. To the first bolded bit - our attitude was not the same in any way. I said the case probably made valid points but I still thought Oats was town. As per the previous Corazon quoted, this isn't what's coming across at all, it reads like he really finds Oats scummy. His equating of what I said with what he said is just totally false.

As you can see from the nested quote, I asked him how Oats' play differed from the last game we all just played together. Second bolded bit is him sidestepping the question entirely and saying it's not about meta. But he can't tell me WHY s&b's case has valid points, or HOW Oats' play is different this game. This is particularly interesting as most of Corazon's early thrust on yamato *was* meta based. Dichotomy...

The bit in red Vivax picked up on as well. It seems to indicate a concern for how he appears, for how he is viewed by others. Who cares if something is a 'glaring scumtell' if it's what you think and want to do? Do you refuse to vote for someone because you're scared of how you're perceived? Not at all.

On March 11 2013 12:31 cDgCorazon wrote:
Vivax:
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 11 2013 07:07 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 06:57 cDgCorazon wrote:
On March 11 2013 06:31 Vivax wrote:
On March 11 2013 06:20 cDgCorazon wrote:
On March 11 2013 06:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 11 2013 05:59 cDgCorazon wrote:
Hmmm...guess who has decided to lurk now that other targets are being hunted? Yamato and Acro...

##Vote: Yamato

Gonna start scumhunting?


Does this not describe your play too? Did you not just delurk to call out Yam/Acro for something you yourself were guilty of?

What do you think of the "other targets being hunted"?


I think Strongandbig's argument is very good. It's very convincing, but we are still a long time away from the deadline. Other than that, I've just seen a lot of nonsense and posts that I cannot understand.

I was the first one to start scum hunting, don't accuse me of not doing that...

Also, it's a bit frustrating to try and scumhunt and then have 5 people complain that no one has scumhunted...


[vivax]
You think his argument is very good? His case is pretty big what exactly do you think is good about it or what parts do you think are good?

If you think his argument is good why aren't you pushing Oats and say we're far away from deadline?
[/vivax]



I think he makes good points. If you're going to make me repeat what he is saying and then try to hammer me for it, it's not going to happen.

I'm not pushing Oats because I am pushing my own read (Yamato). Just because SnB's case is good doesn't give us an excuse to sit around for 24+ hours and do nothing. I've already said why Yamato is scummy and now I'm voting for him. It's pretty simple.


I don't think I said I wanted to hammer you it's just strange that you comment on someone's case as being very good without reacting to it by either voting for the guy in the case or putting it into relation with your own case.

I don't understand why you are so afraid of me I just asked you something that made me curious
Why aren't you trying to persuade me about the yamato lynch then?

You too Kurumi I only asked you to write in a way that is understandable I don't get why you react like that (also you failed to roleplay didn't I break the Chezinu role or something like that ? )


Marv:
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 11 2013 07:08 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 06:47 Kurumi wrote:
oh I will repeat that
I AM A SCUM ROLE AND I AM TOWN ALIGNED AND I WANT TO DIE SO WE CAN AVOID THE POSSIBILITY OF ME BEING A MOLE
thanks


so, if you're intent on being lynched, why don't you tell us what your role is?

hi s&b. we're not lynching Oats today and to be honest I only barely skimmed your case. $10 says that what you said is probably valid, but it doesn't make Oats mafia.

By far the most interesting result of the case is that Corazon agrees with it, despite having played with Oats before (more than once I think?).

Corazon, why don't you tell me in your own words why you think Oats is mafia, why don't you tell me how Oats' play is different this game than in Hiro's game. thanks bish.


Mocsta:
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 11 2013 12:02 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 11:34 cDgCorazon wrote:
On March 11 2013 11:18 Mocsta wrote:
On March 11 2013 11:06 cDgCorazon wrote:
On March 11 2013 10:51 Mocsta wrote:
On March 11 2013 10:43 iamperfection wrote:
On March 11 2013 10:13 Mocsta wrote:
OK. caught up.

(1) This game is super fucked with all the rhymers.

Promes are the most easily interpreted. I am happy to keep him around out of the rhymers (left)
i.e. Bugs to me reads like Chezinu in Mafia LX = White Noise....

(2) Yam shot; makes me lean scum... The guy was town TODAY, and confirmed at that... Martyr isn't a solid reason to drop our numbers down like this. The game is to lynch scum; not confirmed town.

(3) Strong and Big case on Oats reads well, and the points are valid.
But I know Oats meta/personality pretty damn well. Hes reading slightly town to me so far.

=======
I am more concerned Corazon (who has played with Oats recently in Duelist Mafia) is keeping his options open on Oats (if yam doesnt gain traction)..

Its early game, & we all know reads are subject to change...
Why keep his options open like this?
Why say, "I like the case but pushing my own reads anyways"?
Why does he even agree with the read in the first place?

Reads as over-eager ass-kissing to me.

@Corazon
Now that Yamato has taken a Day2 shot, I expect you to put your money where your mouth is, and make a judgment on his alignment and follow through accordingly.

##Vote: cDgCorazon

i dont understand this vote. You say yamatos shot makes you think he is scum yet you are coting for cor for some reason why?

I said, yam action makes me lean scum.

But in my mind, corazon handling of S/B case just read forced to me.

OK, so he confirmed he voted for Yam, but, it still doesnt go any way to explain his management of SnB Oats case?

His rebuttal is: You're lazy.


What else am I supposed to say? You didn't ask any questions, you just came to conclusions. Not only were you lazy and basically lied about my stance on a Yamato lynch, you basically said "Corazon is scum beacuse..." and put it in question form, basically saying you do not care about my answer and that you are going to sit here and use your vote on me as an excuse to not scumhunt and post silly pictures of whatever you posted before.

Your vote is fucking stupid. Asking for the same reply I give everyone else, just with a reply to your quote, is just you trying to look like you are scumhunting. Do you really think I am scummier than Yamato or anyone else who has been discussed as possible scum so far?


This is COMPLETELY different reasoning to "reads are subject to change" and is not town like.
Town will push their target for lynch until it is proven they are innocent or guilty.

You did not do this; you said, I will stick with yamato, and can then move to oats if that fails... wishy-washy and indicative of scum not giving a shit on who they vote for.


LOL
When in the world did I say I would move to oats "if it fails?" Read my fucking filter and stop putting words in my mouth...

Mocsta, your argument is ridiculously stupid and you're wasting everyone's time with this shit.


Heres your filter dive
(1) + Show Spoiler [yamato tunnel] +

On March 10 2013 13:36 cDgCorazon wrote:
Here's what I do not want to see from anyone in this town(in no particular order):

Lurking
BS
Confusing Posts
Being Scum
Lying
Decrypted Messages
Being Scum
Disagreeing with me
Being Scum.

So why do you immediately attack yamato? Surely it must be for something you put in your first list, right?

On March 10 2013 13:40 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 13:39 yamato77 wrote:
On March 10 2013 13:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
That would be...the most disappointing ever.

Wtf is this post

English too hard


Don't post stupid shit about grammar. Who is scum Yamato? Your meta tends to be that everyone should have the scum team down 100% five minutes in the game. Have you found the scumteam yet?

You're pursuing yamato for an absolutely stupid reason... Grammar & a stupid meta-hypothesis.
its a 25 player game, and about a handful had posted; why the fuck would he anyone have the scum team down pat.
This is just stupid, meaningless aggression that goes no where.
Then, there is your "question" to him: rhetorical at best, and derogatory at worst.
Exactly the type of outcome town seeks ... NOT

Lets keep chugging along please.

You then continue discourse solely with Yamato even though he is politely saying I am not entering a war of words with you; and start talking about Duel mafia (instead of the actual game).
You build lots of suspicion on yamato, and then, retreat. why... because maybe its a "personality influencing him"
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 10 2013 14:02 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 13:44 yamato77 wrote:
On March 10 2013 13:43 cDgCorazon wrote:
On March 10 2013 13:41 yamato77 wrote:
On March 10 2013 13:40 cDgCorazon wrote:
On March 10 2013 13:39 yamato77 wrote:
On March 10 2013 13:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
That would be...the most disappointing ever.

Wtf is this post

English too hard


Don't post stupid shit about grammar. Who is scum Yamato? Your meta tends to be that everyone should have the scum team down 100% five minutes in the game. Have you found the scumteam yet?

You're a buzzkill

Not fighting with aggressive people this game

just finding mafia


So you have backed off of your position on this from N0 of Duel Mafia?

What position are you talking about?

I think you've played with me once for a full game, and you think you know EXACTLY how I play?

Lol.


The position I'm talking about is when you basically accused me of having no scum reads 3 hours into Duel Mafia and basically told me that I needed to have 100% scum reads 3 hours into the game or I am scum.

I know a general feeling of how you play. You're aggressive as town. You don't give a fuck if you die or not, as long as your top scumread dies with you:

Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 12:56 yamato77 wrote:
Let the double lynch [Yamato and Hapa] happen

I doubt Hapa flipping mafia would change Adam's mind about me anyway, and I don't really want to be in another one of these things.


The fact that you have decided to back way down from posts like this and play more passive is a bit suspicious. However, I'm going to assume the personality of whoever you are is influencing your play right now. I'll take a look later to see what kind of Yamato (or whoever you are) is going to come into town.


Then you rescind to a meta argument to support the yam claim.. which is interesting.. because you dont apply a meta read to oats (with SnB case) YET you just played Duel mafia with yamato and oats
On March 10 2013 15:36 cDgCorazon wrote:
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On March 10 2013 15:29 Crossfire99 wrote:
On March 10 2013 15:16 yamato77 wrote:
You haven't done anything, precisely.

You must be walkin' on a slant if you think you dun somethin' so far.


Yamato's already playing way too far away from his town meta for me to be comfortable.


More meaningless insults that go no where.
On March 10 2013 16:19 cDgCorazon wrote:
Yamato if you were playing to anyone's town meta you would not be playing this badly.

You're just trying to stir up BS and you are calling people out for stuff that you have not done either (which basically means you called someone out for something).

You aren't scumhunting, you're just throwing shit around. There's no need to do that. We find scum and lynch them. The fact that you are murking the water up means that you are not trying to scumhunt, which would make you not town.

Why you so scummy?

Again, more living in the past of Duel Mafia as reasoning for his Yamato tunneling.
On March 10 2013 16:41 cDgCorazon wrote:
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On March 10 2013 16:39 yamato77 wrote:
Your argument is that I'm scum because I refused to argue with you.

Not exactly a strong one.


No, it's the fact that you are not playing as abrasive as your usual town meta is.

So Yamato, let me get this straight:

You called me out in Duel Mafia for not having scum reads

AND

You're calling me out now for having a scumread.

Please bow down to your King and tell me what I am missing.


Absolute stupid vote rational.
On March 11 2013 05:59 cDgCorazon wrote:
Hmmm...guess who has decided to lurk now that other targets are being hunted? Yamato and Acro...

##Vote: Yamato

Gonna start scumhunting?

So not only has this tunneling of Yamato been founded upon nothing except living in the past, and grammar.
He now votes the guy, because he wasn't around when Corazon thinks he should be around....

=============
(2) + Show Spoiler [SnB] +

CorazonWhen in the world did I say I would move to oats "if it fails?"

Here: Implicitly
On March 11 2013 06:20 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 06:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 11 2013 05:59 cDgCorazon wrote:
Hmmm...guess who has decided to lurk now that other targets are being hunted? Yamato and Acro...

##Vote: Yamato

Gonna start scumhunting?


Does this not describe your play too? Did you not just delurk to call out Yam/Acro for something you yourself were guilty of?

What do you think of the "other targets being hunted"?


I think Strongandbig's argument is very good. It's very convincing, but we are still a long time away from the deadline. Other than that, I've just seen a lot of nonsense and posts that I cannot understand.

I was the first one to start scum hunting, don't accuse me of not doing that...

Also, it's a bit frustrating to try and scumhunt and then have 5 people complain that no one has scumhunted...

(1) Says he has been scum hunting? I already proved his reasoning for targeting yamato were stupid and meaningless?
(2) Clearly says the SnB case is convincing... why mention the deadline comment? Because it would lose traction. This is implicitly stating he would support it, if it came about later in the cycle.

Yet he has the audacity to tell me, he never said anything of the sort?

On March 11 2013 06:57 cDgCorazon wrote:
I think he makes good points. If you're going to make me repeat what he is saying and then try to hammer me for it, it's not going to happen.

I'm not pushing Oats because I am pushing my own read (Yamato). Just because SnB's case is good doesn't give us an excuse to sit around for 24+ hours and do nothing. I've already said why Yamato is scummy and now I'm voting for him. It's pretty simple.

And this is where he is setting himself up to move onto Oats whenever Yam loses traction.
it reads pretty clear to me.

tl;dr
Corazon says he been scum hunting.. but the effort has been fruitless and lacking of town conviction.
He hasnt obtained any real information from his target; nor prodded yamato for meaningful discourse.

He then follows up with a vote, cos they guy might have been asleep or having a drink with mates - i.e. wasn't around for an hour.
All meek attempts to scum hunt, and indicative of scum taking the easy road.

Then with the SnB case, clearly says he likes it..but its a "townie" thing to push your own case instead so will do that. LOl
Doesnt even give reasoning to why the case is good (when others clearly do not agree with it as valid on Oats)
Again, setting himself up for an easy switch, if yam loses traction.
Again, scummy play.

##Vote: Corazon



These posts look very similar...are you sure you aren't piggybacking off of them? Kicking someone when they're down is not a very town thing to do, especially when you just rehash the arguments that knocked them down in the first place.

Not looking good for you Moc.


Why is agreeing or using other people's arguments a scumtell?

On March 11 2013 11:34 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 11:18 Mocsta wrote:
On March 11 2013 11:06 cDgCorazon wrote:
On March 11 2013 10:51 Mocsta wrote:
On March 11 2013 10:43 iamperfection wrote:
On March 11 2013 10:13 Mocsta wrote:
OK. caught up.

(1) This game is super fucked with all the rhymers.

Promes are the most easily interpreted. I am happy to keep him around out of the rhymers (left)
i.e. Bugs to me reads like Chezinu in Mafia LX = White Noise....

(2) Yam shot; makes me lean scum... The guy was town TODAY, and confirmed at that... Martyr isn't a solid reason to drop our numbers down like this. The game is to lynch scum; not confirmed town.

(3) Strong and Big case on Oats reads well, and the points are valid.
But I know Oats meta/personality pretty damn well. Hes reading slightly town to me so far.

=======
I am more concerned Corazon (who has played with Oats recently in Duelist Mafia) is keeping his options open on Oats (if yam doesnt gain traction)..

Its early game, & we all know reads are subject to change...
Why keep his options open like this?
Why say, "I like the case but pushing my own reads anyways"?
Why does he even agree with the read in the first place?

Reads as over-eager ass-kissing to me.

@Corazon
Now that Yamato has taken a Day2 shot, I expect you to put your money where your mouth is, and make a judgment on his alignment and follow through accordingly.

##Vote: cDgCorazon

i dont understand this vote. You say yamatos shot makes you think he is scum yet you are coting for cor for some reason why?

I said, yam action makes me lean scum.

But in my mind, corazon handling of S/B case just read forced to me.

OK, so he confirmed he voted for Yam, but, it still doesnt go any way to explain his management of SnB Oats case?

His rebuttal is: You're lazy.


What else am I supposed to say? You didn't ask any questions, you just came to conclusions. Not only were you lazy and basically lied about my stance on a Yamato lynch, you basically said "Corazon is scum beacuse..." and put it in question form, basically saying you do not care about my answer and that you are going to sit here and use your vote on me as an excuse to not scumhunt and post silly pictures of whatever you posted before.

Your vote is fucking stupid. Asking for the same reply I give everyone else, just with a reply to your quote, is just you trying to look like you are scumhunting. Do you really think I am scummier than Yamato or anyone else who has been discussed as possible scum so far?


This is COMPLETELY different reasoning to "reads are subject to change" and is not town like.
Town will push their target for lynch until it is proven they are innocent or guilty.

You did not do this; you said, I will stick with yamato, and can then move to oats if that fails... wishy-washy and indicative of scum not giving a shit on who they vote for.


LOL
When in the world did I say I would move to oats "if it fails?" Read my fucking filter and stop putting words in my mouth...

Mocsta, your argument is ridiculously stupid and you're wasting everyone's time with this shit.


Stuff like this, there's more of it, is irrationally angry, and he keeps attacking Mocsta rather than any of the arguments.

I'd really like to know where Corazon stands on yamato after the revelation of how his role mechanics supposedly work.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
March 11 2013 14:08 GMT
#817
On March 11 2013 22:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 22:51 iamperfection wrote:
On March 11 2013 13:18 Stutters695 wrote:
On March 11 2013 12:53 Promethelax wrote:
On March 11 2013 12:48 Stutters695 wrote:
@oats: hiro has never witnessed my greatness, that's not surprising. Interesting he hasn't said anything about it since however.


please help me young stutters
I have a plan my brother
it involves you telling me who you suspect
who do you want to get the rope 'round their neck?
I don't know who it is you want to smother.

Hiro is not the traitor we seek today. More than this I can't really say.

considering you haven't said much of anything maybe you should elaborate

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Can anyone honestly say that it looks like stutters is scum hunting? He is Not This is a great lynch and should be getting a whole lot more attention then it currently is. What are you guys going to do when im dead when i will be unable to point these obvious things out to you since i will be a prime night target.


Can anyone honestly say that it looks like Iamp is scum hunting? He is Not very much
Why is your posting so different from your town games and so alike your scum games Iamp?

Why do you have so poor critical thinking skills?

If you want to make a case maybe you should go for it instead of just floundering around not doing anything. If you read my posts you would probably see why my posting could be somewhat different to someone that spams one liners and is extremely aggressive.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 11 2013 14:11 GMT
#818
On March 11 2013 23:08 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 22:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 11 2013 22:51 iamperfection wrote:
On March 11 2013 13:18 Stutters695 wrote:
On March 11 2013 12:53 Promethelax wrote:
On March 11 2013 12:48 Stutters695 wrote:
@oats: hiro has never witnessed my greatness, that's not surprising. Interesting he hasn't said anything about it since however.


please help me young stutters
I have a plan my brother
it involves you telling me who you suspect
who do you want to get the rope 'round their neck?
I don't know who it is you want to smother.

Hiro is not the traitor we seek today. More than this I can't really say.

considering you haven't said much of anything maybe you should elaborate

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Can anyone honestly say that it looks like stutters is scum hunting? He is Not This is a great lynch and should be getting a whole lot more attention then it currently is. What are you guys going to do when im dead when i will be unable to point these obvious things out to you since i will be a prime night target.


Can anyone honestly say that it looks like Iamp is scum hunting? He is Not very much
Why is your posting so different from your town games and so alike your scum games Iamp?

Why do you have so poor critical thinking skills?

If you want to make a case maybe you should go for it instead of just floundering around not doing anything. If you read my posts you would probably see why my posting could be somewhat different to someone that spams one liners and is extremely aggressive.


Critical Thinking skills are overrated.
Seriously you arent looking like town right now and I thought that that was the thing you always do as town.
No jokes, no spam. NOTHING.
Reads kinda like dieno from Duel except now its Iamp.

No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 11 2013 14:12 GMT
#819
Like nowhere in Corazon's filter is a single line of why HE finds Oats scummy.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
March 11 2013 14:16 GMT
#820
@Yamato:

1. If you had no choice, why was there a delay in between the announcement that Kurumi was town and Kurumi was shot? That part makes no sense.

2. Do you have only one shot/check?
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