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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
March 11 2013 08:55 GMT
#781
On March 11 2013 17:51 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 17:39 supersoft wrote:
that shot and check was completely unreasonable... This hasty usage of blue powers looks suspicious to me.
Don't really get, why marv thinks that move was good.

It was not unreasonable.

Perhaps, as Kurumi suggested, I could have aimed it at someone like Ver, but the risk of losing a potential town asset over the guy fucking up the thread while I was at work seemed a little too high.


is your ability a one time thing or can you do it more often?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
March 11 2013 08:55 GMT
#782
Well if u had the role as scum... U have no choice but to mod confirm a townie for the kill to go through.

Why do u need a DT check?

That argument is moot yamato.

I'm still figuring out if u day vigged just like chezinu in Mafia LX... There is percent for ya play.. U was under some heat and maybe decided to use the power while u could on someone u hoped no one would care much about..

If u agreed with prom that kurumi was greener than bugs... Why scan kurumi.

This makes no sense and is a big flaw in your story.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
March 11 2013 09:00 GMT
#783
On March 11 2013 17:51 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 17:48 Mocsta wrote:
Lol.. U herded sheep?

Are u suggesting yam actions are a direct by product of your wisdom and guidance?


tell me, oh wise one: does your toilet flush in the right direction?

If a man were to announce to all:

I am telling the truth: I am Mocsta. My name is my identity. The Australians are the best.

What would you smell? For I, if I were the Mocsta, I would smell rat.

In most situations I would agree.

But darthpunk is the highest tl win rate in the database, so yes. Australians are the best according to statistics.no rat smelt there.


Can I ask if u targeted kurumi due to role pm requirements?

yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 11 2013 09:08 GMT
#784
On March 11 2013 17:55 Mocsta wrote:
Well if u had the role as scum... U have no choice but to mod confirm a townie for the kill to go through.

Why do u need a DT check?

That argument is moot yamato.

I'm still figuring out if u day vigged just like chezinu in Mafia LX... There is percent for ya play.. U was under some heat and maybe decided to use the power while u could on someone u hoped no one would care much about..

If u agreed with prom that kurumi was greener than bugs... Why scan kurumi.

This makes no sense and is a big flaw in your story.

I agree with Prom that there existed a dichotomy.

The things that made him see Kurumi green happened after the shot had been decided.

Don't go too deep thinking about this, it's really simple. I used my role on Kurumi knowing that he might die, because him dying might have actually been a good thing for town today. Thread atmosphere was extremely anti-scumhunt for a good part of the last day. It is now pro-scumhunt. Mission accomplished.

Also, I think that Foolish needs to die. One useless post calling a weak player scum is basically a mafia claim for him as far as I'm concerned.
Writer@WriterYamato
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
March 11 2013 09:35 GMT
#785
On March 11 2013 18:08 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 17:55 Mocsta wrote:
Well if u had the role as scum... U have no choice but to mod confirm a townie for the kill to go through.

Why do u need a DT check?

That argument is moot yamato.

I'm still figuring out if u day vigged just like chezinu in Mafia LX... There is percent for ya play.. U was under some heat and maybe decided to use the power while u could on someone u hoped no one would care much about..

If u agreed with prom that kurumi was greener than bugs... Why scan kurumi.

This makes no sense and is a big flaw in your story.

The things that made him see Kurumi green happened after the shot had been decided.

Don't go too deep thinking about this, it's really simple. I used my role on Kurumi knowing that he might die, because him dying might have actually been a good thing for town today. Thread atmosphere was extremely anti-scumhunt for a good part of the last day. It is now pro-scumhunt. Mission accomplished.

Yeah I am not so sure on the bolded part.

Considering @ 05:18
Prome votes bugs.
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On March 11 2013 05:18 Promethelax wrote:
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On March 11 2013 02:46 wherebugsgo wrote:
On March 11 2013 02:22 prplhz wrote:
Kurumi's personality is Chezinu.

wherebugsgo's personality is Kurumi who is always acting Chezinuish anyway.

I solved it.


the chicken has pondered, but it seems the result is the product of the ingestion of feces.

As the dog it is my duty to lead the sheep away from danger, but the shepherd must know. Look at me, master. I will point you in the right direction.


I see bugs thinks it is the New Years
but his posting, in me, instils fear.
This bugs is useless and dumb
his posts do not attempt to find scum;
this man does not deserve to be here.

I say our WBG is corrupted
his blood, when it flows, will be red.
I say we must hang him,
many people harangue him.
He should end up dead.

So I lay down my vote to elect this thug
though I've read the thread slow as a slug,
for the moment I think he is our best flip
this man is scum, though he hasn't scum-slipped.
So for now I say ##Vote: Bugs



@ 07:06 we receive your scan check announcement (1hr30min after prome WBG vote)

@ 7.09 Prome releases:
That one is good, one is bad [in his opinion].
Obviously with a vote on bugs, the infer is that Kurumi is good.
Obviously to make this post, enough content was warranted prior for prome to update the read publically.
The timing of the post, indicates the thought process was conceived before the announcement was made as well.

So its just not adding up with why you would choose kurumi >> bugs.

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On March 11 2013 07:09 Promethelax wrote:
These two opponents
are both looking for rodents
while not scum hunting like they could
I'd take a gamble and say that one is no good.
No wonder of lynching each other they are proponents.

Now marv, my good friend
the day will soon come to an end.
Who is it you'd most like to swing?
Which lad do you must want to sing?
You aren't shy, don't pretend.

I get that the specific dichotomy comment didnt come till when the kill was already going to be executed.

But im still struggling to swallow why you would rationalise taking this gamble on Kurumi > Bugs.

Now, if you had referred to this
On March 11 2013 06:47 Kurumi wrote:
oh I will repeat that
I AM A SCUM ROLE AND I AM TOWN ALIGNED AND I WANT TO DIE SO WE CAN AVOID THE POSSIBILITY OF ME BEING A MOLE
thanks

Which conveniently occurs about 15min before your scan announcement, I would consider the situation a lot more as a town motivated scan. Because, that was indeed shitting up the thread and creating massive WIFOM bombs.

But, you never pointed this out in your arguments for shooting Kurumi.

Like I said, the story isn't selling itself that well for me - even when I am trying to keep it simple
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 11 2013 10:18 GMT
#786
We should absolutely lynch Crossfire today.
This is scum Crossfire.

##vote Crossfire
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 11 2013 11:10 GMT
#787
Guys, Why you ignore my Hiro and Austin case
Spoilered for your convience.

+ Show Spoiler +

On March 11 2013 12:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 10:52 austinmcc wrote:
THIS IS ME


Hello everyone! I think you should vote austinmcc for Mayor. Or any other elected office. But mainly mayor.

As mayor, I'll aim to keep a healthy thread environment. We have a lot of heavily-themed roles it seems, and a couple posting restrictions or flavor-lovers. Limericks and rats are nice, but there are a lot of other things that get lost when there is too much creativity and not enough scumhunting. So please be judicious with your silly posts.

But the real benefit to electing me mayor is that I will lynch scum. For now, that means lynching slOosh or crossfire. I like those better than oats, although I agree that oats doesn't look very green here. But iirc I'm not particularly good at putting oats's actions together with his alignment.

slOosh is a good townie, and generally active. scumslOosh is inactive. slOosh this game is...

But the stronger lynch today is crossfire. I like the idea that some scum will attempt to hide within personalities, allowing them to play the game from a less-than-town angle and pass it off as part of the game. crossfire has done just that. He has talked his nonsense, and I enjoyed reading his posts. But the posts contain little/nothing. bugs's post had some logic in them. Others are roleplaying within the context of scumhunting. crossfire is just posting nonsense. At best he called hiro out for voting for "non-alignment reasons," but he hasn't called out any other bad votes and he didn't go anywhere with hiro. Call out his vote, blink away.


Austin here wants to lynch 'lynchbait' basically, Sloosh has posted nothing, crossfire has also posted nothing. But here Austin is saying that posting nothing is scummy.

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On March 11 2013 11:12 austinmcc wrote:
snb, three things

what are those BHs in the Foolishness pic holding?

wbg's posts may ramble, but they rambled while making townie points (at times). Read his post about how rats work. It's not the most insightful thing ever, but it gave me a strong townie vibe on him, because he was still playing mafia while filling the thread with nonsense (unlike crossfire).

oats does look bad. I like the point on reads more than the point on not following his own advice, especially within a game where everyone is playing as someone else. For starts, you look at the iamperfection/mocsta pushes from oats, but you miss this:
On March 11 2013 02:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
LYNCH IAMP.

Why Hiro and not the other numerous people with 1/2/3 posts?

Also Hiro never pushed that idea as it was never brought up again.
Oats still pushing iamp, before you post, in response to iamp finding hiro scummy based on hiro's wanting claims. Specifically, iamp made a case, and oats immediately jumps all over iamp. I dislike that, because he's not actually seeking discussion on those questions, he starts off with the all caps LYNCH IAMP, which makes it feel like the questions don't matter. He just wants to lynch iamp, for...making a case and scumhunting.

There's also his posts on ver. Check these out:
On March 10 2013 22:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
I do not use the word expound.

Mocsta start playing the damn game.

What do you think about Ver's unimpressive entry and subsequent no posts. Also what do you think of marv.
Who is your top scumread.
Ver's entrance is "unimpressive" and he has no posts after. Reads like Oats finds this scummy
On March 10 2013 23:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 10 2013 23:04 Acrofales wrote:
**VER'S POST WAS HERE**
Only scum or Drazerk ever tries to pull this stunt.

##vote Ver


Thats a horrible reason to think someone is scum.

Seriously do you think he is serious?

Also arent you of the opinion that vets shouldnt be lynched day 1 unless scum claim in thread?
But now acro finds Ver scummy for the same post, and Oats thinks it's a horrible reason for a vote.
On March 10 2013 23:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 10 2013 23:51 Acrofales wrote:
That's stupid. Ver dropped in to tell us he hasn't read his role pm. Now you can believe him, in which case he is probably worth keeping around. However the chance is bigger that he is NOT rping Drazerk and HAS read his pm. Now that means he is lying and giving himself an excuse to act any way he chooses.

Who needs excuses like that? Scum. I was looking forward to playing with Ver, but if he's scum, we should kill him.


Or he was kidding, and roleplaying.

Its one fucking post. Is he really the scummiest person so far?
Acro responds, and Oats downplays Ver's post. Ver has a whopping one post. And yet Oats still manages to have 3 different thoughts about it. Weird interaction, and weirdly inconsistent.



Austin says I want to lynch Iamp for making a case. So he assumes scum never make a case which is blatantly wrong.

He also focuses on the 'lynch Iamp', instead of the actual questions in order to make it seem like my post is useless.

The best part is about my opinion on Ver.
Show nested quote +
Ver's entrance is "unimpressive" and he has no posts after.

Is this scummy? Its just a factual representation of what Ver has done, There are no opinions in this line other than 'unimpressive' which I dont feel is me saying that Ver is scummy.

Then he tries and says that I contradict myself.
Show nested quote +
But now acro finds Ver scummy for the same post, and Oats thinks it's a horrible reason for a vote.

Is this wrong? According to Austin, this makes me scum even though I am right because it somehow is different from the question I asked Mocsta.
Show nested quote +

Or he was kidding, and roleplaying.

Its one fucking post. Is he really the scummiest person so far?

Again, this is a different thought according to Austin. Is it? No, it isnt.
Keep in mind Im asking all these questions about Ver in order to discern Acro's and Mocsta's alignment, nothing else.

So
##Unvote
##Vote: Austinmcc


+ Show Spoiler +

On March 11 2013 12:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
shlong. Lol.

Anyway I also think that HiroPro is scum.
Yes I am using the same quote I attacked Iamp for, so sue me.

Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 16:55 HiroPro wrote:
btw I think everyone should just say who they are. since there apparently aren't any risks to doing so and I don't fancy having to determine whether or not people are acting fake because of their personality or because they're mafia.

On March 08 2013 21:59 kitaman27 wrote:
The OP has been updated. I've removed the following statement:

Warning: I heavily advise you to think twice before roleclaiming.

As with any game, role claiming will have consequences, however this statement kind of contradicts with the spirit of the game, hindering role playing if you are worried about revealing your personality. There will not be a conditional vig based on role identities present in this game.



Same thing as Iamp, focusing people on personalities isnt good because its like rolehunting and not alignment hunting, so it distracts town from the real objective. Super simple stuff.

Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 03:01 HiroPro wrote:
yo, unless one of them admits they were lying right now, we should be lynching between kurumi and bugs today. both of them have claimed chezinu - bugs's anagram is a an anagram for brown brotherhood.

at the moment, i'm leaning towards kurumi. in particular notice what kurumi says after he has gotten his role (but before his alignment), "this sucks". kurumi is a player who likes to play around and troll frequently. it's very unlikely that he would be unhappy about receiving chezinu as a role. the logical conclusion is that kurumi is a faker.

##Vote Kurumi

also to the people who don't understand why i would ask everyone to just flat out say who they are. this is in part because my personality dislikes shennanies like what's going on right now. it's not something that i care about personally much.

Here Hiro is using the personality in order to finger someone as scum. He doesnt say anything about Kurumi's actions and supposed scummy posts but just hypothesized that since Kurumi is trolling this game, and he likes to troll and that he appeared to not like his personality at the start. Too many assumptions. So its scummy for trying to lynch Kurumi off absolutely nothing.

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On March 11 2013 08:52 HiroPro wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Stutters695


Forget about kurumi. if he's confirmed town then there is no point in talking about him.

lynch the commentator. his filter is short so i will not bother even quoting. all he can do is ask meaningless questions and complain about how people treat him. he has no opinions on anything of value.

Going after an easy target here, Hiro summarizes Stutters filter but neglects to mention the fact that stutters almost always does this as town too.

Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 11:18 HiroPro wrote:
On March 11 2013 10:58 strongandbig wrote:
After oats, wbg is pretty clearly the next best lynch target. His rambling aside, the resolution to this kurumi thing do not make him look good at all.


man what does this even mean. you thought kurumi was suspicious also right? so why does kurumi flipping a bastard town role make you more suspicious of bugs?

Not reading the thread where it was stated more than once by more than 1 player that either Kurumi or Bugs were scum.

Hiro doesnt try to convince people that Stutters is scum, just asks them HEY YOU IS STUTTERS SCUM? NO? aww.



No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 11 2013 11:28 GMT
#788
On March 11 2013 17:39 supersoft wrote:
that shot and check was completely unreasonable... This hasty usage of blue powers looks suspicious to me.
Don't really get, why marv thinks that move was good.


where did i say it was good?

also ##unvote for now although apparently i forgot to use the voting thread last night anyways.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
March 11 2013 11:39 GMT
#789
oh shit i misread that somewhere...
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 11 2013 12:03 GMT
#790
On March 11 2013 14:07 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 08:38 kitaman27 wrote:
Player List
...
12. Kurumi as wherebugsgo, killed day one
...

Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 13:27 kitaman27 wrote:
It is now day two. You have approximately 45.5 hours to determine the day two lynch. The deadline is currently set as 03:00 GMT (+00:00). Please take note that daylight savings will shorten the cycle by one cycle. Any quotes in the role pms are purely for flavor. Sorry for the delay (those quotes take forever!). Please address all questions to myself and greymist via pm. Good luck!


is it currently day one or day two


NOBODY CARES
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 11 2013 12:07 GMT
#791
yamato77 isn't scum because he's an anonymous dayvig who chose to shoot Kurumi over Foolishness/Ver/TakeYourPick.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
March 11 2013 12:13 GMT
#792
How can u justify a day vig on someone with one or zero posts?

if yam is town for u.. Who is ya top read so far?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 11 2013 12:15 GMT
#793
you missed the 'anonymous', Mocsta.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
March 11 2013 12:22 GMT
#794
Oohhh so yam didnt have to claim the scalp. Got it.

I see. Interesting point actually. Makes me feel a lot better about prplhz. (& yam)

I cant see scum making a comment like that.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
March 11 2013 12:25 GMT
#795
On March 11 2013 21:07 prplhz wrote:
yamato77 isn't scum because he's an anonymous dayvig who chose to shoot Kurumi over Foolishness/Ver/TakeYourPick.

not 100% anonymous but I agree with your conclusion.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 11 2013 13:00 GMT
#796
On March 11 2013 21:22 Mocsta wrote:
Oohhh so yam didnt have to claim the scalp. Got it.

I see. Interesting point actually. Makes me feel a lot better about prplhz. (& yam)

I cant see scum making a comment like that.


I don't really agree. And there's precious little else in prplhz's filter to go on.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 11 2013 13:04 GMT
#797
Marv/Mocsta Opinions on Hiro and Austin?
No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 11 2013 13:11 GMT
#798
austin's far too absent but I'm kinda ok with Hiro so far. Subject-to-change TM

Flicking through austin's filter, can you tell me why you felt the need to ask other people about Ver's 'unimpressive' entrance if you didn't find it scummy yourself?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 11 2013 13:11 GMT
#799
Screw hiro and austin we should lynch crossfire today.

Why are you scrubs not voting him yet?

VE even unvoted him, why the flying fuck would you do that.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18408 Posts
March 11 2013 13:20 GMT
#800
THIS THREAD IS MOVING TOO FAST FOR ME!!!

CALM THE FUCK DOWN AND STOP POSTING NONSENSE!!!
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