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On March 11 2013 12:36 Mocsta wrote:
Why would I have a read on oats from the start? Course reads can flip flop prome. You know Day1 early reads are meaningless and subject to change.
It's shit like this that really makes me wonder if lynching Yamato D1 is a good idea...
So you just basically called me scum for being flip-floppity about Oats and now you're being flip-floppity about Oats? Scum logic?
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shlong. Lol.
Anyway I also think that HiroPro is scum.
Yes I am using the same quote I attacked Iamp for, so sue me.
On March 10 2013 16:55 HiroPro wrote:btw I think everyone should just say who they are. since there apparently aren't any risks to doing so and I don't fancy having to determine whether or not people are acting fake because of their personality or because they're mafia. Show nested quote +On March 08 2013 21:59 kitaman27 wrote:The OP has been updated. I've removed the following statement:Warning: I heavily advise you to think twice before roleclaiming.
As with any game, role claiming will have consequences, however this statement kind of contradicts with the spirit of the game, hindering role playing if you are worried about revealing your personality. There will not be a conditional vig based on role identities present in this game.
Same thing as Iamp, focusing people on personalities isnt good because its like rolehunting and not alignment hunting, so it distracts town from the real objective. Super simple stuff.
On March 11 2013 03:01 HiroPro wrote:
yo, unless one of them admits they were lying right now, we should be lynching between kurumi and bugs today. both of them have claimed chezinu - bugs's anagram is a an anagram for brown brotherhood.
at the moment, i'm leaning towards kurumi. in particular notice what kurumi says after he has gotten his role (but before his alignment), "this sucks". kurumi is a player who likes to play around and troll frequently. it's very unlikely that he would be unhappy about receiving chezinu as a role. the logical conclusion is that kurumi is a faker.
##Vote Kurumi
also to the people who don't understand why i would ask everyone to just flat out say who they are. this is in part because my personality dislikes shennanies like what's going on right now. it's not something that i care about personally much.
Here Hiro is using the personality in order to finger someone as scum. He doesnt say anything about Kurumi's actions and supposed scummy posts but just hypothesized that since Kurumi is trolling this game, and he likes to troll and that he appeared to not like his personality at the start. Too many assumptions. So its scummy for trying to lynch Kurumi off absolutely nothing.
On March 11 2013 08:52 HiroPro wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Stutters695
Forget about kurumi. if he's confirmed town then there is no point in talking about him.
lynch the commentator. his filter is short so i will not bother even quoting. all he can do is ask meaningless questions and complain about how people treat him. he has no opinions on anything of value.
Going after an easy target here, Hiro summarizes Stutters filter but neglects to mention the fact that stutters almost always does this as town too.
On March 11 2013 11:18 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2013 10:58 strongandbig wrote:
After oats, wbg is pretty clearly the next best lynch target. His rambling aside, the resolution to this kurumi thing do not make him look good at all. man what does this even mean. you thought kurumi was suspicious also right? so why does kurumi flipping a bastard town role make you more suspicious of bugs?
Not reading the thread where it was stated more than once by more than 1 player that either Kurumi or Bugs were scum.
Hiro doesnt try to convince people that Stutters is scum, just asks them HEY YOU IS STUTTERS SCUM? NO? aww.
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bugs call K-room a scum
but when he is killed and confirmed a-1
bugs disappears
he says nothing here
his mislynch has been undone
when I show my cat a playerlist
it is at bugs which she begins to hiss
her reads are astute
my kitty is cute
she says that bugs is a bish
WBG has hidden in his role
he pretends to search for the mole
but when his chosen townie is shot
his contributions are less than not
now WBG's sharp wit has gone null
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On March 11 2013 12:33 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2013 12:30 Mocsta wrote:On March 11 2013 12:18 Promethelax wrote:
maybe the structure of my posts is hard for you
but by "..." I meant Bugs said nothing, and nothing which he would later rue Maybe you dont realise.. but bugs last or second last post says "rat..." It was pretty easy to misinterpret what you wrote.. and hence, why all this rhyming is bullshit as I have already been saying. Didn't realise it was scummy to keep up with the thread and struggle to figure out what you rhymists are saying... Sounds to me, your writing what ever agenda is easiest to rhyme with... P.S. the "..." means extended pause for accentuation, not nothing. marv, let me present exhibit d why Mocsta is scummy he herein calls me a greenie but also calls me scum, what a weanie so I say: moc is scum q.e.d.
More rhymes for the sake of rhymes, with little to context.
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On March 11 2013 12:40 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2013 12:31 cDgCorazon wrote:Vivax: + Show Spoiler +On March 11 2013 07:07 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2013 06:57 cDgCorazon wrote:On March 11 2013 06:31 Vivax wrote:On March 11 2013 06:20 cDgCorazon wrote:On March 11 2013 06:04 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 11 2013 05:59 cDgCorazon wrote:
Hmmm...guess who has decided to lurk now that other targets are being hunted? Yamato and Acro...
##Vote: Yamato
Gonna start scumhunting? Does this not describe your play too? Did you not just delurk to call out Yam/Acro for something you yourself were guilty of? What do you think of the "other targets being hunted"? I think Strongandbig's argument is very good. It's very convincing, but we are still a long time away from the deadline. Other than that, I've just seen a lot of nonsense and posts that I cannot understand. I was the first one to start scum hunting, don't accuse me of not doing that... Also, it's a bit frustrating to try and scumhunt and then have 5 people complain that no one has scumhunted... [vivax] You think his argument is very good? His case is pretty big what exactly do you think is good about it or what parts do you think are good? If you think his argument is good why aren't you pushing Oats and say we're far away from deadline? [/vivax] I think he makes good points. If you're going to make me repeat what he is saying and then try to hammer me for it, it's not going to happen. I'm not pushing Oats because I am pushing my own read (Yamato). Just because SnB's case is good doesn't give us an excuse to sit around for 24+ hours and do nothing. I've already said why Yamato is scummy and now I'm voting for him. It's pretty simple. I don't think I said I wanted to hammer you it's just strange that you comment on someone's case as being very good without reacting to it by either voting for the guy in the case or putting it into relation with your own case. I don't understand why you are so afraid of me I just asked you something that made me curious  Why aren't you trying to persuade me about the yamato lynch then? You too Kurumi I only asked you to write in a way that is understandable I don't get why you react like that (also you failed to roleplay didn't I break the Chezinu role or something like that ?  ) Marv: + Show Spoiler +On March 11 2013 07:08 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2013 06:47 Kurumi wrote:
oh I will repeat that
I AM A SCUM ROLE AND I AM TOWN ALIGNED AND I WANT TO DIE SO WE CAN AVOID THE POSSIBILITY OF ME BEING A MOLE
thanks so, if you're intent on being lynched, why don't you tell us what your role is? hi s&b. we're not lynching Oats today and to be honest I only barely skimmed your case. $10 says that what you said is probably valid, but it doesn't make Oats mafia. By far the most interesting result of the case is that Corazon agrees with it, despite having played with Oats before (more than once I think?). Corazon, why don't you tell me in your own words why you think Oats is mafia, why don't you tell me how Oats' play is different this game than in Hiro's game. thanks bish. Mocsta: + Show Spoiler +On March 11 2013 12:02 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2013 11:34 cDgCorazon wrote:On March 11 2013 11:18 Mocsta wrote:On March 11 2013 11:06 cDgCorazon wrote:On March 11 2013 10:51 Mocsta wrote:On March 11 2013 10:43 iamperfection wrote:On March 11 2013 10:13 Mocsta wrote:
OK. caught up.
(1) This game is super fucked with all the rhymers.
Promes are the most easily interpreted. I am happy to keep him around out of the rhymers (left)
i.e. Bugs to me reads like Chezinu in Mafia LX = White Noise....
(2) Yam shot; makes me lean scum... The guy was town TODAY, and confirmed at that... Martyr isn't a solid reason to drop our numbers down like this. The game is to lynch scum; not confirmed town.
(3) Strong and Big case on Oats reads well, and the points are valid.
But I know Oats meta/personality pretty damn well. Hes reading slightly town to me so far.
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I am more concerned Corazon (who has played with Oats recently in Duelist Mafia) is keeping his options open on Oats (if yam doesnt gain traction)..
Its early game, & we all know reads are subject to change...
Why keep his options open like this?
Why say, "I like the case but pushing my own reads anyways"?
Why does he even agree with the read in the first place?
Reads as over-eager ass-kissing to me.
@Corazon
Now that Yamato has taken a Day2 shot, I expect you to put your money where your mouth is, and make a judgment on his alignment and follow through accordingly.
##Vote: cDgCorazon i dont understand this vote. You say yamatos shot makes you think he is scum yet you are coting for cor for some reason why? I said, yam action makes me lean scum. But in my mind, corazon handling of S/B case just read forced to me. OK, so he confirmed he voted for Yam, but, it still doesnt go any way to explain his management of SnB Oats case? His rebuttal is: You're lazy. What else am I supposed to say? You didn't ask any questions, you just came to conclusions. Not only were you lazy and basically lied about my stance on a Yamato lynch, you basically said "Corazon is scum beacuse..." and put it in question form, basically saying you do not care about my answer and that you are going to sit here and use your vote on me as an excuse to not scumhunt and post silly pictures of whatever you posted before. Your vote is fucking stupid. Asking for the same reply I give everyone else, just with a reply to your quote, is just you trying to look like you are scumhunting. Do you really think I am scummier than Yamato or anyone else who has been discussed as possible scum so far? This is COMPLETELY different reasoning to "reads are subject to change" and is not town like. Town will push their target for lynch until it is proven they are innocent or guilty. You did not do this; you said, I will stick with yamato, and can then move to oats if that fails... wishy-washy and indicative of scum not giving a shit on who they vote for. LOL When in the world did I say I would move to oats "if it fails?" Read my fucking filter and stop putting words in my mouth... Mocsta, your argument is ridiculously stupid and you're wasting everyone's time with this shit.
Heres your filter dive (1) + Show Spoiler [yamato tunnel] +On March 10 2013 13:36 cDgCorazon wrote:
Here's what I do not want to see from anyone in this town(in no particular order):
Lurking
BS
Confusing Posts
Being Scum
Lying
Decrypted Messages
Being Scum
Disagreeing with me
Being Scum. So why do you immediately attack yamato? Surely it must be for something you put in your first list, right? On March 10 2013 13:40 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 13:39 yamato77 wrote:On March 10 2013 13:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
That would be...the most disappointing ever. Wtf is this post English too hard Don't post stupid shit about grammar. Who is scum Yamato? Your meta tends to be that everyone should have the scum team down 100% five minutes in the game. Have you found the scumteam yet? You're pursuing yamato for an absolutely stupid reason... Grammar & a stupid meta-hypothesis. its a 25 player game, and about a handful had posted; why the fuck would he anyone have the scum team down pat.This is just stupid, meaningless aggression that goes no where. Then, there is your "question" to him: rhetorical at best, and derogatory at worst. Exactly the type of outcome town seeks ... NOTLets keep chugging along please. You then continue discourse solely with Yamato even though he is politely saying I am not entering a war of words with you; and start talking about Duel mafia (instead of the actual game).You build lots of suspicion on yamato, and then, retreat. why... because maybe its a "personality influencing him" + Show Spoiler +On March 10 2013 14:02 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 13:44 yamato77 wrote:On March 10 2013 13:43 cDgCorazon wrote:On March 10 2013 13:41 yamato77 wrote:On March 10 2013 13:40 cDgCorazon wrote:On March 10 2013 13:39 yamato77 wrote:On March 10 2013 13:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
That would be...the most disappointing ever. Wtf is this post English too hard Don't post stupid shit about grammar. Who is scum Yamato? Your meta tends to be that everyone should have the scum team down 100% five minutes in the game. Have you found the scumteam yet? You're a buzzkill Not fighting with aggressive people this game just finding mafia So you have backed off of your position on this from N0 of Duel Mafia? What position are you talking about? I think you've played with me once for a full game, and you think you know EXACTLY how I play? Lol. The position I'm talking about is when you basically accused me of having no scum reads 3 hours into Duel Mafia and basically told me that I needed to have 100% scum reads 3 hours into the game or I am scum. I know a general feeling of how you play. You're aggressive as town. You don't give a fuck if you die or not, as long as your top scumread dies with you: Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 12:56 yamato77 wrote:
Let the double lynch [Yamato and Hapa] happen
I doubt Hapa flipping mafia would change Adam's mind about me anyway, and I don't really want to be in another one of these things. The fact that you have decided to back way down from posts like this and play more passive is a bit suspicious. However, I'm going to assume the personality of whoever you are is influencing your play right now. I'll take a look later to see what kind of Yamato (or whoever you are) is going to come into town. Then you rescind to a meta argument to support the yam claim.. which is interesting.. because you dont apply a meta read to oats (with SnB case) YET you just played Duel mafia with yamato and oatsOn March 10 2013 15:36 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 15:29 Crossfire99 wrote:On March 10 2013 15:16 yamato77 wrote:
You haven't done anything, precisely. You must be walkin' on a slant if you think you dun somethin' so far. Yamato's already playing way too far away from his town meta for me to be comfortable. More meaningless insults that go no where. On March 10 2013 16:19 cDgCorazon wrote:
Yamato if you were playing to anyone's town meta you would not be playing this badly.
You're just trying to stir up BS and you are calling people out for stuff that you have not done either (which basically means you called someone out for something).
You aren't scumhunting, you're just throwing shit around. There's no need to do that. We find scum and lynch them. The fact that you are murking the water up means that you are not trying to scumhunt, which would make you not town.
Why you so scummy? Again, more living in the past of Duel Mafia as reasoning for his Yamato tunneling. On March 10 2013 16:41 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 16:39 yamato77 wrote:
Your argument is that I'm scum because I refused to argue with you.
Not exactly a strong one. No, it's the fact that you are not playing as abrasive as your usual town meta is. So Yamato, let me get this straight: You called me out in Duel Mafia for not having scum readsAND You're calling me out now for having a scumread. Please bow down to your King and tell me what I am missing. Absolute stupid vote rational. On March 11 2013 05:59 cDgCorazon wrote:
Hmmm...guess who has decided to lurk now that other targets are being hunted? Yamato and Acro...
##Vote: Yamato
Gonna start scumhunting? So not only has this tunneling of Yamato been founded upon nothing except living in the past, and grammar.
He now votes the guy, because he wasn't around when Corazon thinks he should be around....============= (2) + Show Spoiler [SnB] +CorazonWhen in the world did I say I would move to oats "if it fails?" Here: Implicitly On March 11 2013 06:20 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2013 06:04 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 11 2013 05:59 cDgCorazon wrote:
Hmmm...guess who has decided to lurk now that other targets are being hunted? Yamato and Acro...
##Vote: Yamato
Gonna start scumhunting? Does this not describe your play too? Did you not just delurk to call out Yam/Acro for something you yourself were guilty of? What do you think of the "other targets being hunted"? I think Strongandbig's argument is very good. It's very convincing, but we are still a long time away from the deadline. Other than that, I've just seen a lot of nonsense and posts that I cannot understand. I was the first one to start scum hunting, don't accuse me of not doing that... Also, it's a bit frustrating to try and scumhunt and then have 5 people complain that no one has scumhunted... (1) Says he has been scum hunting? I already proved his reasoning for targeting yamato were stupid and meaningless? (2) Clearly says the SnB case is convincing... why mention the deadline comment? Because it would lose traction. This is implicitly stating he would support it, if it came about later in the cycle. Yet he has the audacity to tell me, he never said anything of the sort? On March 11 2013 06:57 cDgCorazon wrote:
I think he makes good points. If you're going to make me repeat what he is saying and then try to hammer me for it, it's not going to happen.
I'm not pushing Oats because I am pushing my own read (Yamato). Just because SnB's case is good doesn't give us an excuse to sit around for 24+ hours and do nothing. I've already said why Yamato is scummy and now I'm voting for him. It's pretty simple. And this is where he is setting himself up to move onto Oats whenever Yam loses traction. it reads pretty clear to me. Corazon says he been scum hunting.. but the effort has been fruitless and lacking of town conviction. He hasnt obtained any real information from his target; nor prodded yamato for meaningful discourse. He then follows up with a vote, cos they guy might have been asleep or having a drink with mates - i.e. wasn't around for an hour. All meek attempts to scum hunt, and indicative of scum taking the easy road. Then with the SnB case, clearly says he likes it..but its a "townie" thing to push your own case instead so will do that. LOl Doesnt even give reasoning to why the case is good (when others clearly do not agree with it as valid on Oats) Again, setting himself up for an easy switch, if yam loses traction. Again, scummy play. ##Vote: Corazon These posts look very similar...are you sure you aren't piggybacking off of them? Kicking someone when they're down is not a very town thing to do, especially when you just rehash the arguments that knocked them down in the first place. Not looking good for you Moc. Right... Corazon lets make this clear. The posts you quoted, are general comments in the thread. Did they call you scum? The answer is no. Did they vote you? The answer is no. Did I call you scum and vote you? The answer is yes. I dont see any piggy backing + I was asleep when those posts were made regardless. Using your logic, the only people who can be town: are the ones who are first to raise an issue Thats dumb. And you know it.
I have a problem when you piggyback off other people's arguments and then you can't even admit that you are piggybacking off of them.
You're completely taking their momentum and just using it to run me into the ground...where's the town motivation behind that? Bring something new to the scum hunt.
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On March 11 2013 12:41 Promethelax wrote:
bugs call K-room a scum
but when he is killed and confirmed a-1
bugs disappears
he says nothing here
his mislynch has been undone
when I show my cat a playerlist
it is at bugs which she begins to hiss
her reads are astute
my kitty is cute
she says that bugs is a bish
WBG has hidden in his role
he pretends to search for the mole
but when his chosen townie is shot
his contributions are less than not
now WBG's sharp wit has gone null
Agreed, I would be down with a WBG lynch.
Hehe kitties.
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Bugs is good at Mafia. He prides himself on being good at this game, and being recognized as being good.
I'll admit that I was personally null on Kurumi, but Bugs spent all his time focused on trying to discredit/lynch Kurumi. Regardless of what he thought of Kurumi, the fact that he spent all his time and energy roleplaying just to lynch someone who ended up being modconfirmed town...it's bad town play, and play that Bugs finds abhorrent as town.
He's hiding behind this roleplay, and that's fucking scummy. This is still a game of Mafia, and he's not playing Mafia. He's playing "I'm Chezinu". The only people who play that form of Chezinu are fucking scum. Chezinu is also a good town player, and Bugs knows this, and would be trying to own that kind of play. This Bugs is weak - hiding behind a great man's mask.
This Chezinu is an imposter. A lie. He must be purged with fire. Vote for wherebugsgo.
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On March 11 2013 12:40 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2013 12:36 Mocsta wrote:
Why would I have a read on oats from the start? Course reads can flip flop prome. You know Day1 early reads are meaningless and subject to change.
It's shit like this that really makes me wonder if lynching Yamato D1 is a good idea... So you just basically called me scum for being flip-floppity about Oats and now you're being flip-floppity about Oats? Scum logic?
LOL. completely different situation.
How can you not tell?
Entering conversation with Oats, I had a null read on him.
I decided to prod him on some items, that actually gave me slight alignment reads on him.
Thats a huge difference between what you and yamato did.
I demonstrated in my case on you, how u just tunnel him with no care to find out more about yamato.
I demonstarted in my case on you, how u liked SnB Oats case and set yourself up to jump shit as required.
There is no similarity in our approach to the game Corazon.
You are the one who exhibits scum logic.
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@oats: hiro has never witnessed my greatness, that's not surprising. Interesting he hasn't said anything about it since however.
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On March 11 2013 12:46 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2013 12:40 cDgCorazon wrote:On March 11 2013 12:36 Mocsta wrote:
Why would I have a read on oats from the start? Course reads can flip flop prome. You know Day1 early reads are meaningless and subject to change.
It's shit like this that really makes me wonder if lynching Yamato D1 is a good idea... So you just basically called me scum for being flip-floppity about Oats and now you're being flip-floppity about Oats? Scum logic? LOL. completely different situation. How can you not tell? Entering conversation with Oats, I had a null read on him. I decided to prod him on some items, that actually gave me slight alignment reads on him. Thats a huge difference between what you and yamato did. I demonstrated in my case on you, how u just tunnel him with no care to find out more about yamato. I demonstarted in my case on you, how u liked SnB Oats case and set yourself up to jump shit as required. There is no similarity in our approach to the game Corazon. You are the one who exhibits scum logic.
Once again, I have my reasons for voting Yamato. Read my filter...
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On March 11 2013 12:42 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2013 12:40 Mocsta wrote:On March 11 2013 12:31 cDgCorazon wrote:Vivax: + Show Spoiler +On March 11 2013 07:07 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2013 06:57 cDgCorazon wrote:On March 11 2013 06:31 Vivax wrote:On March 11 2013 06:20 cDgCorazon wrote:On March 11 2013 06:04 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 11 2013 05:59 cDgCorazon wrote:
Hmmm...guess who has decided to lurk now that other targets are being hunted? Yamato and Acro...
##Vote: Yamato
Gonna start scumhunting? Does this not describe your play too? Did you not just delurk to call out Yam/Acro for something you yourself were guilty of? What do you think of the "other targets being hunted"? I think Strongandbig's argument is very good. It's very convincing, but we are still a long time away from the deadline. Other than that, I've just seen a lot of nonsense and posts that I cannot understand. I was the first one to start scum hunting, don't accuse me of not doing that... Also, it's a bit frustrating to try and scumhunt and then have 5 people complain that no one has scumhunted... [vivax] You think his argument is very good? His case is pretty big what exactly do you think is good about it or what parts do you think are good? If you think his argument is good why aren't you pushing Oats and say we're far away from deadline? [/vivax] I think he makes good points. If you're going to make me repeat what he is saying and then try to hammer me for it, it's not going to happen. I'm not pushing Oats because I am pushing my own read (Yamato). Just because SnB's case is good doesn't give us an excuse to sit around for 24+ hours and do nothing. I've already said why Yamato is scummy and now I'm voting for him. It's pretty simple. I don't think I said I wanted to hammer you it's just strange that you comment on someone's case as being very good without reacting to it by either voting for the guy in the case or putting it into relation with your own case. I don't understand why you are so afraid of me I just asked you something that made me curious Why aren't you trying to persuade me about the yamato lynch then? You too Kurumi I only asked you to write in a way that is understandable I don't get why you react like that (also you failed to roleplay didn't I break the Chezinu role or something like that ? ) Marv: + Show Spoiler +On March 11 2013 07:08 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2013 06:47 Kurumi wrote:
oh I will repeat that
I AM A SCUM ROLE AND I AM TOWN ALIGNED AND I WANT TO DIE SO WE CAN AVOID THE POSSIBILITY OF ME BEING A MOLE
thanks so, if you're intent on being lynched, why don't you tell us what your role is? hi s&b. we're not lynching Oats today and to be honest I only barely skimmed your case. $10 says that what you said is probably valid, but it doesn't make Oats mafia. By far the most interesting result of the case is that Corazon agrees with it, despite having played with Oats before (more than once I think?). Corazon, why don't you tell me in your own words why you think Oats is mafia, why don't you tell me how Oats' play is different this game than in Hiro's game. thanks bish. Mocsta: + Show Spoiler +On March 11 2013 12:02 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2013 11:34 cDgCorazon wrote:On March 11 2013 11:18 Mocsta wrote:On March 11 2013 11:06 cDgCorazon wrote:On March 11 2013 10:51 Mocsta wrote:On March 11 2013 10:43 iamperfection wrote:On March 11 2013 10:13 Mocsta wrote:
OK. caught up.
(1) This game is super fucked with all the rhymers.
Promes are the most easily interpreted. I am happy to keep him around out of the rhymers (left)
i.e. Bugs to me reads like Chezinu in Mafia LX = White Noise....
(2) Yam shot; makes me lean scum... The guy was town TODAY, and confirmed at that... Martyr isn't a solid reason to drop our numbers down like this. The game is to lynch scum; not confirmed town.
(3) Strong and Big case on Oats reads well, and the points are valid.
But I know Oats meta/personality pretty damn well. Hes reading slightly town to me so far.
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I am more concerned Corazon (who has played with Oats recently in Duelist Mafia) is keeping his options open on Oats (if yam doesnt gain traction)..
Its early game, & we all know reads are subject to change...
Why keep his options open like this?
Why say, "I like the case but pushing my own reads anyways"?
Why does he even agree with the read in the first place?
Reads as over-eager ass-kissing to me.
@Corazon
Now that Yamato has taken a Day2 shot, I expect you to put your money where your mouth is, and make a judgment on his alignment and follow through accordingly.
##Vote: cDgCorazon i dont understand this vote. You say yamatos shot makes you think he is scum yet you are coting for cor for some reason why? I said, yam action makes me lean scum. But in my mind, corazon handling of S/B case just read forced to me. OK, so he confirmed he voted for Yam, but, it still doesnt go any way to explain his management of SnB Oats case? His rebuttal is: You're lazy. What else am I supposed to say? You didn't ask any questions, you just came to conclusions. Not only were you lazy and basically lied about my stance on a Yamato lynch, you basically said "Corazon is scum beacuse..." and put it in question form, basically saying you do not care about my answer and that you are going to sit here and use your vote on me as an excuse to not scumhunt and post silly pictures of whatever you posted before. Your vote is fucking stupid. Asking for the same reply I give everyone else, just with a reply to your quote, is just you trying to look like you are scumhunting. Do you really think I am scummier than Yamato or anyone else who has been discussed as possible scum so far? This is COMPLETELY different reasoning to "reads are subject to change" and is not town like. Town will push their target for lynch until it is proven they are innocent or guilty. You did not do this; you said, I will stick with yamato, and can then move to oats if that fails... wishy-washy and indicative of scum not giving a shit on who they vote for. LOL When in the world did I say I would move to oats "if it fails?" Read my fucking filter and stop putting words in my mouth... Mocsta, your argument is ridiculously stupid and you're wasting everyone's time with this shit.
Heres your filter dive (1) + Show Spoiler [yamato tunnel] +On March 10 2013 13:36 cDgCorazon wrote:
Here's what I do not want to see from anyone in this town(in no particular order):
Lurking
BS
Confusing Posts
Being Scum
Lying
Decrypted Messages
Being Scum
Disagreeing with me
Being Scum. So why do you immediately attack yamato? Surely it must be for something you put in your first list, right? On March 10 2013 13:40 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 13:39 yamato77 wrote:On March 10 2013 13:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
That would be...the most disappointing ever. Wtf is this post English too hard Don't post stupid shit about grammar. Who is scum Yamato? Your meta tends to be that everyone should have the scum team down 100% five minutes in the game. Have you found the scumteam yet? You're pursuing yamato for an absolutely stupid reason... Grammar & a stupid meta-hypothesis. its a 25 player game, and about a handful had posted; why the fuck would he anyone have the scum team down pat.This is just stupid, meaningless aggression that goes no where. Then, there is your "question" to him: rhetorical at best, and derogatory at worst. Exactly the type of outcome town seeks ... NOTLets keep chugging along please. You then continue discourse solely with Yamato even though he is politely saying I am not entering a war of words with you; and start talking about Duel mafia (instead of the actual game).You build lots of suspicion on yamato, and then, retreat. why... because maybe its a "personality influencing him" + Show Spoiler +On March 10 2013 14:02 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 13:44 yamato77 wrote:On March 10 2013 13:43 cDgCorazon wrote:On March 10 2013 13:41 yamato77 wrote:On March 10 2013 13:40 cDgCorazon wrote:On March 10 2013 13:39 yamato77 wrote:On March 10 2013 13:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
That would be...the most disappointing ever. Wtf is this post English too hard Don't post stupid shit about grammar. Who is scum Yamato? Your meta tends to be that everyone should have the scum team down 100% five minutes in the game. Have you found the scumteam yet? You're a buzzkill Not fighting with aggressive people this game just finding mafia So you have backed off of your position on this from N0 of Duel Mafia? What position are you talking about? I think you've played with me once for a full game, and you think you know EXACTLY how I play? Lol. The position I'm talking about is when you basically accused me of having no scum reads 3 hours into Duel Mafia and basically told me that I needed to have 100% scum reads 3 hours into the game or I am scum. I know a general feeling of how you play. You're aggressive as town. You don't give a fuck if you die or not, as long as your top scumread dies with you: Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 12:56 yamato77 wrote:
Let the double lynch [Yamato and Hapa] happen
I doubt Hapa flipping mafia would change Adam's mind about me anyway, and I don't really want to be in another one of these things. The fact that you have decided to back way down from posts like this and play more passive is a bit suspicious. However, I'm going to assume the personality of whoever you are is influencing your play right now. I'll take a look later to see what kind of Yamato (or whoever you are) is going to come into town. Then you rescind to a meta argument to support the yam claim.. which is interesting.. because you dont apply a meta read to oats (with SnB case) YET you just played Duel mafia with yamato and oatsOn March 10 2013 15:36 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 15:29 Crossfire99 wrote:On March 10 2013 15:16 yamato77 wrote:
You haven't done anything, precisely. You must be walkin' on a slant if you think you dun somethin' so far. Yamato's already playing way too far away from his town meta for me to be comfortable. More meaningless insults that go no where. On March 10 2013 16:19 cDgCorazon wrote:
Yamato if you were playing to anyone's town meta you would not be playing this badly.
You're just trying to stir up BS and you are calling people out for stuff that you have not done either (which basically means you called someone out for something).
You aren't scumhunting, you're just throwing shit around. There's no need to do that. We find scum and lynch them. The fact that you are murking the water up means that you are not trying to scumhunt, which would make you not town.
Why you so scummy? Again, more living in the past of Duel Mafia as reasoning for his Yamato tunneling. On March 10 2013 16:41 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 16:39 yamato77 wrote:
Your argument is that I'm scum because I refused to argue with you.
Not exactly a strong one. No, it's the fact that you are not playing as abrasive as your usual town meta is. So Yamato, let me get this straight: You called me out in Duel Mafia for not having scum readsAND You're calling me out now for having a scumread. Please bow down to your King and tell me what I am missing. Absolute stupid vote rational. On March 11 2013 05:59 cDgCorazon wrote:
Hmmm...guess who has decided to lurk now that other targets are being hunted? Yamato and Acro...
##Vote: Yamato
Gonna start scumhunting? So not only has this tunneling of Yamato been founded upon nothing except living in the past, and grammar.
He now votes the guy, because he wasn't around when Corazon thinks he should be around....============= (2) + Show Spoiler [SnB] +CorazonWhen in the world did I say I would move to oats "if it fails?" Here: Implicitly On March 11 2013 06:20 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2013 06:04 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 11 2013 05:59 cDgCorazon wrote:
Hmmm...guess who has decided to lurk now that other targets are being hunted? Yamato and Acro...
##Vote: Yamato
Gonna start scumhunting? Does this not describe your play too? Did you not just delurk to call out Yam/Acro for something you yourself were guilty of? What do you think of the "other targets being hunted"? I think Strongandbig's argument is very good. It's very convincing, but we are still a long time away from the deadline. Other than that, I've just seen a lot of nonsense and posts that I cannot understand. I was the first one to start scum hunting, don't accuse me of not doing that... Also, it's a bit frustrating to try and scumhunt and then have 5 people complain that no one has scumhunted... (1) Says he has been scum hunting? I already proved his reasoning for targeting yamato were stupid and meaningless? (2) Clearly says the SnB case is convincing... why mention the deadline comment? Because it would lose traction. This is implicitly stating he would support it, if it came about later in the cycle. Yet he has the audacity to tell me, he never said anything of the sort? On March 11 2013 06:57 cDgCorazon wrote:
I think he makes good points. If you're going to make me repeat what he is saying and then try to hammer me for it, it's not going to happen.
I'm not pushing Oats because I am pushing my own read (Yamato). Just because SnB's case is good doesn't give us an excuse to sit around for 24+ hours and do nothing. I've already said why Yamato is scummy and now I'm voting for him. It's pretty simple. And this is where he is setting himself up to move onto Oats whenever Yam loses traction. it reads pretty clear to me. Corazon says he been scum hunting.. but the effort has been fruitless and lacking of town conviction. He hasnt obtained any real information from his target; nor prodded yamato for meaningful discourse. He then follows up with a vote, cos they guy might have been asleep or having a drink with mates - i.e. wasn't around for an hour. All meek attempts to scum hunt, and indicative of scum taking the easy road. Then with the SnB case, clearly says he likes it..but its a "townie" thing to push your own case instead so will do that. LOl Doesnt even give reasoning to why the case is good (when others clearly do not agree with it as valid on Oats) Again, setting himself up for an easy switch, if yam loses traction. Again, scummy play. ##Vote: Corazon These posts look very similar...are you sure you aren't piggybacking off of them? Kicking someone when they're down is not a very town thing to do, especially when you just rehash the arguments that knocked them down in the first place. Not looking good for you Moc. Right... Corazon lets make this clear. The posts you quoted, are general comments in the thread. Did they call you scum? The answer is no. Did they vote you? The answer is no. Did I call you scum and vote you? The answer is yes. I dont see any piggy backing + I was asleep when those posts were made regardless. Using your logic, the only people who can be town: are the ones who are first to raise an issue Thats dumb. And you know it. I have a problem when you piggyback off other people's arguments and then you can't even admit that you are piggybacking off of them. You're completely taking their momentum and just using it to run me into the ground...where's the town motivation behind that? Bring something new to the scum hunt. So instead of dispelling my case..
you try to trump it by saying I piggy backed people.
Classic Scum strat Cora: attack the player, not the argument
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VE my brother of the face hair
how is it that you as scum do bugs declare
when your vote is otherwise in use
attacking yamato, who is silent like refuse
which one do you think is evil, like those from the lair.
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Oh Mocsta, discrediting everyone who attacks you as scum? I thought better of you.
What's your beef with Promethelax? I'm serious, I want to know. I'm taking what he says at face value right now because I'm able to follow his thought process based on his posts - but if I should be suspicious then convince me rather than just trying to paint his rhyming as scummy.
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On March 11 2013 12:48 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2013 12:46 Mocsta wrote:On March 11 2013 12:40 cDgCorazon wrote:On March 11 2013 12:36 Mocsta wrote:
Why would I have a read on oats from the start? Course reads can flip flop prome. You know Day1 early reads are meaningless and subject to change.
It's shit like this that really makes me wonder if lynching Yamato D1 is a good idea... So you just basically called me scum for being flip-floppity about Oats and now you're being flip-floppity about Oats? Scum logic? LOL. completely different situation. How can you not tell? Entering conversation with Oats, I had a null read on him. I decided to prod him on some items, that actually gave me slight alignment reads on him. Thats a huge difference between what you and yamato did. I demonstrated in my case on you, how u just tunnel him with no care to find out more about yamato. I demonstarted in my case on you, how u liked SnB Oats case and set yourself up to jump shit as required. There is no similarity in our approach to the game Corazon. You are the one who exhibits scum logic. Once again, I have my reasons for voting Yamato. Read my filter...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=400204¤tpage=34#669
Already commented on the whole situation in my case on you.
Your reasons for voting yamato were stupid and a weak attempt at justification.
"I am voting for yam, because I expected him to comment right now"
This is stupid.. and satisfies your weak reasoning for tunneling him in the first place (attacking a grammar post...)
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On March 11 2013 12:48 Stutters695 wrote:
@oats: hiro has never witnessed my greatness, that's not surprising. Interesting he hasn't said anything about it since however.
please help me young stutters
I have a plan my brother
it involves you telling me who you suspect
who do you want to get the rope 'round their neck?
I don't know who it is you want to smother.
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On March 11 2013 12:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh Mocsta, discrediting everyone who attacks you as scum? I thought better of you.
What's your beef with Promethelax? I'm serious, I want to know. I'm taking what he says at face value right now because I'm able to follow his thought process based on his posts - but if I should be suspicious then convince me rather than just trying to paint his rhyming as scummy.
???
Where do I call Prome scum
I am saying, he is making arguments that are easy to rhyme >> making rhymes that explain his perspective in full context
I said prior, out of all the rhymers, I liked prome the most.
My request on him was simple (for ppl not posting in limericks)
If bugs was scum, give more reasons than just.. because his filter is unreadable.
The combination of his last limerick, and what you said, is starting to make some kind of sense.
but.. i still prefer corazon. His unwillingness to address any points I raise to him by throwing ad-hominem comments around is very concerning.
My vote remains on corazon.
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u kids so bad
a) yamato uses mod-confirm check day one on kurumi
b) yamato then day vigs mod-confirmed town kurumi
c) people complain and call yamato bad but don't vote him
d) yamato is getting away with shooting mod-confirmed town
e) yamato is getting away with shooting mod-confirmed town
f) yamato is getting away with shooting mod-confirmed town
srsly if anybody doen't realize this and considers themselves good, well, maybe you need to bend over to see just how low you really are.
##Vote: yamato
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On March 11 2013 13:04 slOosh wrote:
u kids so bad
a) yamato uses mod-confirm check day one on kurumi
b) yamato then day vigs mod-confirmed town kurumi
c) people complain and call yamato bad but don't vote him
d) yamato is getting away with shooting mod-confirmed town
e) yamato is getting away with shooting mod-confirmed town
f) yamato is getting away with shooting mod-confirmed town
srsly if anybody doen't realize this and considers themselves good, well, maybe you need to bend over to see just how low you really are.
##Vote: yamato
Tell me why scum would modconfirm a townie? Please?
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What is your point on him? That his reaction to someone else's case on someone else was forced? What are you even trying to say with this point? Why does what you're saying he's doing about someone else's case about someone else make him scum necessarily?
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On March 11 2013 13:04 slOosh wrote:
u kids so bad
a) yamato uses mod-confirm check day one on kurumi
b) yamato then day vigs mod-confirmed town kurumi
c) people complain and call yamato bad but don't vote him
d) yamato is getting away with shooting mod-confirmed town
e) yamato is getting away with shooting mod-confirmed town
f) yamato is getting away with shooting mod-confirmed town
srsly if anybody doen't realize this and considers themselves good, well, maybe you need to bend over to see just how low you really are.
##Vote: yamato
I noticed it. Just sayin.
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