Personality Mafia 2 - Page 228

On March 20 2013 01:05 austinmcc wrote:
Just got through obs QT, BC too baws. BC, can I ask why you were scummy on me before D3? I would agree that we all went wonky going for the flawless and did a bad job of outing ourselves, but you were on my case before that? I feel like I absolutely didn't comment on my teammates, which may have outed me, and also that I posted things like thread police posts, but didn't fully back them up by trying to organize town. D3 and beyond I don't think I scummed well, but I thought I'd been alright before that point.

<3 reading gonzaw's obs posts. Really wish gonzaw or BH would have been real roles, they'd have been quite fun to get.

sorry kita for not following through and going full troll at the end of D3. But at least I stayed true to your personality and SOMEHOW DID NOT GET ELECTED WHILE RUNNING FOR MAYOR UNOPPOSED. It was almost too perfect

Also, I gotta know whether crossfire actually got his rb message or not. I was so proud to FINALLY get to post that video, because the stupid commercial song plays in my head every time I read a post of his.

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Overall, I guess enough has been said of how this game played out. From D2 onwards, we really just sat back and did some very minor pushing of buttons and let the thread go where it was going. I'm not certain whether that was a great call from us, would be interested in hearing thoughts from folks who weren't mafia this game. Apart from us all getting lazy D3 and pushing for the flawless, anything MAJOR that we slipped up in doing as a team?

On March 20 2013 04:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I forget which post originally tipped me to you but It had a feeling of "off"

Then I watched you and acro move through the thread doing near nothing but fueling the fire that vivax/marv had created. Given that You have been playing for awhile I was like "huh, even if austin was having an off game as town, hes not tunneling people and thus has no reason to only be looking into these obvious townies / ignoring the possibility DP/ver was red off of marvs check"

From there it was a every post you made the more sure I was as you kept doing the same thing. However its extremely hard to catch what you were doing given near no townie was looking at any reads aside from marv's basically. Everyone sheeped and no one added real new content at any regular interval or attempted to really stop the spam. Gave mafia the perfect way to blend in without ever really being caught unless someone sat back and took a fresh perspective on the thread.

On March 20 2013 04:22 Keirathi wrote:
I haven't clicked the link, but if its not Gilbert Gottfried, I am going to be sorely disappointed in you Prom.

On March 20 2013 04:41 austinmcc wrote:
Ah, thanks. Fueling the fire was definitely what I was trying to do, will have to work on hiding it better or just doing more than only that.

This was the first game where I've had a scumteam to interact with and worry about, not yet comfortable with how to play around scumbuddies. Especially the DP/ver bit (I don't think I even MENTIONED DP, and certainly not after a point, because I didn't see any way around calling him scum and it seemed like we could win without having to lynch him).

On March 20 2013 04:48 BloodyC0bbler wrote:



It is a hard thing to realize you could be doing more when the tactic your using is doing so well. Again it was something near no one noticed so you did extremely well at it. I think it was only obvious to me given that I was dead and able to take more time thinking about posts people made compared to the slaving through it that everyone else had to.

On March 20 2013 04:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


I forget which post originally tipped me to you but It had a feeling of "off"

Then I watched you and acro move through the thread doing near nothing but fueling the fire that vivax/marv had created. Given that You have been playing for awhile I was like "huh, even if austin was having an off game as town, hes not tunneling people and thus has no reason to only be looking into these obvious townies / ignoring the possibility DP/ver was red off of marvs check"

From there it was a every post you made the more sure I was as you kept doing the same thing. However its extremely hard to catch what you were doing given near no townie was looking at any reads aside from marv's basically. Everyone sheeped and no one added real new content at any regular interval or attempted to really stop the spam. Gave mafia the perfect way to blend in without ever really being caught unless someone sat back and took a fresh perspective on the thread.

On March 20 2013 04:56 austinmcc wrote:
You note that I've played for a bit now (and have off games). I know I feel that I have particularly bad reads when looking at new players, or some players that I've been in a few games with but just can't a good feel for. Would this just be less-telling-but-probably-scummy had I been newer?

On March 20 2013 05:10 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


Its something I would have had to analyze more had you been newer. Much like you I find players who have established themselves in a way easier to read as they don't change their style as much. They might get better reads / analytical skills but overall once you have say 10ish games under your belt of mafia or town you tend to have a "style" you gravitate towards. It was overall that your play to my eye felt not at all like the town you I expect to see. Quality of reads doesn't bother me so much as we all have good / bad ones. However seeing someone sheep marv so hard when marv was so obviously on tilt is odd.

On March 20 2013 05:07 Acrofales wrote:


Yeah, that's kinda what I was going for. I thought I had more of a balance of scumhunting going, but really I was happy to poke Vivax and question Marv about why exactly Foolishness was scum for most of the game. I will immediately admit that austin did a better job than I did. But then again, I always get called by some people, so I wasn't too worried.

Oh, and @Promethelax: I do respect you, otherwise I wouldn't say that.

EDIT: Also, I knew my position on DP in D3 was not gonna hold up under scrutiny for long. I had him as my primary scumspect for almost the whole game, but never actually wanted to lynch him. If DP had ever gotten lynched I may well have gotten caught on that, but we did a good job of stalling the lynch. I can't believe HiroPro's roleclaim actually worked. I was quite angry at him in the QT for screwing with the status quo.

On March 20 2013 05:12 austinmcc wrote:
All makes sense.

Thanks for the advice here, and for the posts from both you and foolishness in obs.

On March 20 2013 05:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I give you guys insane props though. You guys really did do a good job keeping the few players that could stomp on you preoccupied / shot the ones who could potentially have nailed you. Rb on me was not what I expected in the least. Figured i had goaded a bullet out of you but not the rb ;p

On March 20 2013 05:14 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


not a problem. I find playing as scum a very fun change of pace given my style. I know its not the easiest thing for everyone to do but I really enjoy taking control of the town and getting them to move at my pace / will for as long as possible. You guys did this differently then I would have likely but the end result and the willingness to try and improve are what matters in the long run.

On March 20 2013 05:21 austinmcc wrote:
I didn't make the long journey back to the start of scum QT, but I feel like we laid out a couple options and ended up just wanting you dead. Bus driver was not expected, but we wanted to shut down anything your role might have as far as keeping you up.

Yeah, some lessons learned. My only scum games before were Aperture 2 with HiroPro, where we lost our third member on the first day with Hiro providing a key vote to lynch him, so I never had to deal with a scummy-looking teammate, and then CT where I replaced in and things were already going way downhill for scum.

I know it's a bit different in a themed game than a normal, but nice to get a more full idea of what it's like playing from the start with a full team.