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On March 15 2013 21:58 prplhz wrote:
marv what's your opinion of vivax
I think he's mafia. This is his opinion on supersoft. He obviously likes him a lot:
On March 13 2013 23:05 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2013 23:03 Mocsta wrote:On March 13 2013 22:57 Vivax wrote:
Ok ok I'll keep the calm I'm again rushing too much, I missed that thing you wrote marv and the Foolishness thingy is recent.
My bad didn't read properly sorry.
Anyway.
I want to lynch Ver in that case. I have no clue about Foolish currently but it's insane to favour him for lynch over a guy who doesn't move a finger after announcing he would. Also we can't be sure about Foolish until we see yamato flip.
Additionally, we need to wait for SlOosh's actions. SlOosh should tell us who he targeted though. What happened to crossfire and corazon? Didn't see marv got opposite checks back when I said I would want to lynch them. We should probably follow supersoft's advice though and wait how Foolish's action resolves while deciding over other candidates. Prplhz is also an awesome candidate for lynch.
On March 14 2013 01:06 Vivax wrote:Supersoft actually gets worked up over something reasonable. No reason to keep this marv alive though 
On March 14 2013 01:25 Vivax wrote:
That said for advice on how to support me into playing properly this game consult supersoft and Mocsta and some others who ask questions and get them without talking shit.
On March 15 2013 03:46 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 03:33 supersoft wrote:
Vivax is a player, that will always be unreadable for me. His decisionmaking is different from everyone else in this forum. He's as special as chezinu and I will probably never be able to read him.
This made me go awwww. But actually I'm just surprised you're not calling me insane but special lol (cause I'm not until I reach a computer and start playing mafia).
And yet, he won't listen to him at all. He won't even ENGAGE him in conversation on his townread on me. This is beyond insane Vivax. This is a mafia Vivax, not listening to a confirmed town supersoft who he likes, refusing to engage in conversation with him about me. Vivax didn't even ask supersoft WHY he found me town. He literally didn't care!
Now post-flip Vivax's opinions suddenly flip-flop around totally and completely. It's totally manufactured.
Vivax.
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Marv, why is Vivax totally sheeping foolishness though?
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As in the reason I see in the supersoft thing, is that he thought that foolishness was town.
Which has been the case throughout his whole filter. Like if foolishness flips scum, ALL his reads are wrong and such. Isnt that a bit too much for scum?
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On March 15 2013 22:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
As in the reason I see in the supersoft thing, is that he thought that foolishness was town.
Which has been the case throughout his whole filter. Like if foolishness flips scum, ALL his reads are wrong and such. Isnt that a bit too much for scum?
Nope. If Fool and Vivax are mafia together, I imagine Fool told Vivax just to be completely insane.
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On March 15 2013 22:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
As in the reason I see in the supersoft thing, is that he thought that foolishness was town.
Which has been the case throughout his whole filter. Like if foolishness flips scum, ALL his reads are wrong and such. Isnt that a bit too much for scum?
Bear in mind as well, supersoft had Foolish down as confirmed mafia. Wouldn't talk to him about that either.
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On March 15 2013 22:09 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 22:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
As in the reason I see in the supersoft thing, is that he thought that foolishness was town.
Which has been the case throughout his whole filter. Like if foolishness flips scum, ALL his reads are wrong and such. Isnt that a bit too much for scum? Bear in mind as well, supersoft had Foolish down as confirmed mafia. Wouldn't talk to him about that either.
After foolishness's big post. Super had him as town.
The thing is, Vivax isnt insane, he is just so wrong and so 'linked' with scum that he looks scummy as a result right?
Like I dont see the Vivax who shot his team members not distancing himself.
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Why are you talking about when he had him as town? I'm talking about when he had him as mafia and both Vivax and supersoft were in the thread. What happened earlier is irrelevant.
I don't care who he's linked with, that's the point. I don't care about that. I care about how he refused to engage a confirmed town who he clearly likes on the reads he disagrees with.
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Thanks Oats but don't defend me. Let things happen let marv push me whatever, he's wrong.
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You have no answer to the point though, do you Vivax?
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I do. I'm just not easily influenced by others just cause of what I think of them and prefer pushing my own thoughts.
My whole personality as town is basically anti-sheep except for rare occasions (I like the prospect of being right when everyone else was wrong lol)
So I think you mentioning me not getting influenced by supersoft isn't a good reason to claim I'm scum.
As for my reads, I am too afraid as scum to end up on the wrong wagon/side usually. They were wrong mostly cause I started from the scum yamato town Foolish premise (I still can't believe yamato could be town tbh) and then made connections from that point on.
However don't let me stop you rallying people for my lynch.
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On March 15 2013 22:23 Vivax wrote:
I do. I'm just not easily influenced by others just cause of what I think of them and prefer pushing my own thoughts.
My whole personality as town is basically anti-sheep except for rare occasions (I like the prospect of being right when everyone else was wrong lol)
So I think you mentioning me not getting influenced by supersoft isn't a good reason to claim I'm scum.
As for my reads, I am too afraid as scum to end up on the wrong wagon/side usually. They were wrong mostly cause I started from the scum yamato town Foolish premise (I still can't believe yamato could be town tbh) and then made connections from that point on.
However don't let me stop you rallying people for my lynch.
Scum.
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On March 15 2013 22:23 Vivax wrote:
I do. I'm just not easily influenced by others just cause of what I think of them and prefer pushing my own thoughts.
My whole personality as town is basically anti-sheep except for rare occasions (I like the prospect of being right when everyone else was wrong lol)
So I think you mentioning me not getting influenced by supersoft isn't a good reason to claim I'm scum.
As for my reads, I am too afraid as scum to end up on the wrong wagon/side usually. They were wrong mostly cause I started from the scum yamato town Foolish premise (I still can't believe yamato could be town tbh) and then made connections from that point on.
However don't let me stop you rallying people for my lynch.
There's a big difference between not being easily influenced and totally refusing to engage at all.
Preferably if town has more than one KP you'll be shot at night after Foolishness is dealt with.
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Evidence for the second point is LX where I gave Prom a null read with a point making me doubt he's scum and then giving up on defending him so easily when it was clear he was going to be lynched.
When Chezinu shot Milkman I basically went sheep mode with town cause I knew BH had gotten back some sort of check.
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On March 15 2013 22:26 Vivax wrote:
Evidence for the second point is LX where I gave Prom a null read with a point making me doubt he's scum and then giving up on defending him so easily when it was clear he was going to be lynched.
When Chezinu shot Milkman I basically went sheep mode with town cause I knew BH had gotten back some sort of check.
You also say you change your meta every game. This entire argument you're making is totally invalid because of this.
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It's not me who you gotta persuade that I'm scum, marv.
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On March 15 2013 22:30 Vivax wrote:
It's not me who you gotta persuade that I'm scum, marv.
It is useful to demonstrate, however, that you try to use your meta to defend yourself when you specifically say you change your meta every game. That's worth other people seeing.
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Your case is built up on me not following supersoft when I had other reads than him just cause I commented positively on other things.
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Problem?
Is now every guy scum who agrees with someone on some points but doesn't follow him in his reads?
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That is my non-meta explanation.
I also don't try consciously to change my meta every game (although many aspects change apparently cause people keep saying they never know if I'm scum or town), so far I never had a lurky town meta, but I had a lurky scum meta, that's a consequence of motivation to play the game.
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On March 15 2013 22:37 Vivax wrote:
Your case is built up on me not following supersoft when I had other reads than him just cause I commented positively on other things.
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Problem?
Is now every guy scum who agrees with someone on some points but doesn't follow him in his reads?
Nope, that's not what I said. What I said was a complete refusal to engage at all. I don't mind you disagreeing with his reads. I don't mind you being wrong, Vivax. I expect you to be eternally wrong. What I do mind is you not trying, even one little bit, to understand where supersoft was coming from.
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