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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 14 2013 23:27 GMT
#3181
On March 15 2013 08:25 Vivax wrote:
Is convincing supersoft enough to lynch you?


I'm just curious why, when there is a confirmed, strong town running around the place who has a townread on me, you wouldn't discuss with him why this is the case?

You literally know that his intentions are pure, and he is good, and he thinks I'm town - why wouldn't you talk to him about that?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9649 Posts
March 14 2013 23:46 GMT
#3182
For anyone having lingering doubt's he de lurked and didn't try hard to push anything one again. This is the right lynch
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 14 2013 23:48 GMT
#3183
I still want to cover all my bases by having a couple of people voting for Corazon, though.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18486 Posts
March 14 2013 23:48 GMT
#3184
On March 15 2013 07:51 Foolishness wrote:
Also, I just found this out, but apparently instead of me not getting lynched the person with the second most votes gets lynched instead.

Just for the very remote possibility this is true:

##unvote
##vote Cora


I want the second highest vote to be my strongest scumread.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
March 14 2013 23:52 GMT
#3185
On March 15 2013 08:48 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 07:51 Foolishness wrote:
Also, I just found this out, but apparently instead of me not getting lynched the person with the second most votes gets lynched instead.

Just for the very remote possibility this is true:

##unvote
##vote Cora


I want the second highest vote to be my strongest scumread.


Err. What the fuck? why were you NOT voting for your strongest town read before?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18486 Posts
March 14 2013 23:55 GMT
#3186
On March 15 2013 08:52 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 08:48 Acrofales wrote:
On March 15 2013 07:51 Foolishness wrote:
Also, I just found this out, but apparently instead of me not getting lynched the person with the second most votes gets lynched instead.

Just for the very remote possibility this is true:

##unvote
##vote Cora


I want the second highest vote to be my strongest scumread.


Err. What the fuck? why were you NOT voting for your strongest town read before?

Because he wasn't getting lynched. I think Foolishness is scum too. Foolishness is more dangerous than Cora. You could... read my filter?
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
March 14 2013 23:59 GMT
#3187
On March 15 2013 08:55 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 08:52 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 15 2013 08:48 Acrofales wrote:
On March 15 2013 07:51 Foolishness wrote:
Also, I just found this out, but apparently instead of me not getting lynched the person with the second most votes gets lynched instead.

Just for the very remote possibility this is true:

##unvote
##vote Cora


I want the second highest vote to be my strongest scumread.


Err. What the fuck? why were you NOT voting for your strongest town read before?

Because he wasn't getting lynched. I think Foolishness is scum too. Foolishness is more dangerous than Cora. You could... read my filter?


Yeah. I could read your filter but it would have to get behind 120 pages of thread I still need to read and several more filters before I get to yours I am afraid.

But fair enough I guess.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
March 15 2013 00:03 GMT
#3188
Look at what I found in this pile of shitspam here:

Marv calling out prplhz on something he couldn't have known and then "forgetting" about it (more likely covering up)

On March 14 2013 05:21 prplhz wrote:
how did plexa know prior to the first nuke launching what sloosh had done?


On March 14 2013 05:21 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 05:21 prplhz wrote:
how did plexa know prior to the first nuke launching what sloosh had done?


The message came after the nukes were launched?


On March 14 2013 05:21 prplhz wrote:
i mean plexa knew before dawn, and i don't think most people knew about the nukes before kita confirmed fool's nuke


On March 14 2013 05:22 prplhz wrote:
oh wasn't it with daypost?


On March 14 2013 05:22 marvellosity wrote:
... pay attention, prplhz. No it came 4 or 5 hours ago. something like that.


On March 14 2013 05:27 marvellosity wrote:
New question prplhz: how do you even know Plexa sent a message when you don't even know when and where it was posted? How is that possible?


On March 14 2013 05:29 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 05:27 marvellosity wrote:
New question prplhz: how do you even know Plexa sent a message when you don't even know when and where it was posted? How is that possible?

bah

i read it and i forgot when and where.



Oh look marv forgot about prplhz's slip:


On March 14 2013 06:02 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 05:39 Foolishness wrote:
And now marvellosity is acting like wherebugsgo when he's mafia. Yawn too predictable.


I want my case. I want you to go through the large effort of making it so I can laugh at you as you die. Please go ahead and make the case. I implore you.


Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
March 15 2013 00:04 GMT
#3189
Marv never pursued prplhz over this, the last post there is the post after prplhz claimed he read it "somewhere" when it doesn't make any fucking sense. We have a 1A scumslip here.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
March 15 2013 00:05 GMT
#3190
On March 14 2013 05:21 prplhz wrote:
i mean plexa knew before dawn, and i don't think most people knew about the nukes before kita confirmed fool's nuke


Explain this, 1st of all, who the fuck is plexa? Two, whoever this plexa is, why are you arguing that someone, whoever it was, knew about the nukes before dawn?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
March 15 2013 00:06 GMT
#3191
Can one of you two:

10. austinmcc
21. Acrofales

compare stutters current game to former games. He plays scared; Unnecessary roleclaim; i don't get a scumfeeling tbh.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 15 2013 00:07 GMT
#3192
On March 15 2013 09:05 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 05:21 prplhz wrote:
i mean plexa knew before dawn, and i don't think most people knew about the nukes before kita confirmed fool's nuke


Explain this, 1st of all, who the fuck is plexa? Two, whoever this plexa is, why are you arguing that someone, whoever it was, knew about the nukes before dawn?

lol
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
March 15 2013 00:14 GMT
#3193
Nevermind now I remember.
Plexa was the dude sending out the russian stuff.

And you talk about Plexa sending out the message before dawn.
So you know who Plexa is and how his role works.

So yeah, scumslip marv didn't go after.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
March 15 2013 00:25 GMT
#3194
THAT MEANS WE LYNCH PRPLHZ TODAY
YAAAY

##Unvote
##Vote prplhz


Supersoft this is your last day here be a good cheerleader.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 15 2013 00:25 GMT
#3195
Good news Vivax, I've finally come to a conclusion I'm happy with on your alignment! More news after the lynch.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18486 Posts
March 15 2013 00:30 GMT
#3196
On March 15 2013 09:06 supersoft wrote:
Can one of you two:

10. austinmcc
21. Acrofales

compare stutters current game to former games. He plays scared; Unnecessary roleclaim; i don't get a scumfeeling tbh.

Day 1 I thought he could very well flip scum, mainly based on meta. Stutters has only played town games, and he ALWAYS lurks. However, when he delurks, he usually posts some reads (not a lot, but some). He wasn't doing that. He claimed Kenpachi in rather an obvious manner and then claimed he was playing even lurkier than usual for roleplaying reasons, which was terrible.

However, he has since cleared up his play and is looking more like he did in MTG 2. I don't really get scumvibes from his posts. He was sticking his neck out to get Xfire lynched. Not exactly a very dangerous lynch to put your neck on the block for, but if this was his first game, I would not even expect this from him. Obviously the lack of a scum meta makes it hard, but I've been hosting some newbie games and you can generally tell newbie scum from a mile away.

Also, his reads just seem right. This looks like he considered Foolishness' post and made up his own mind. Yes, it took him forever to come in and make the post, but it was somewhat against the flow of the game at the time, when I know I at least was considering Foolishness could be town and the post sincere, so this was going (somewhat) against the grain at the time.

On March 15 2013 02:07 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 13:53 Acrofales wrote:
Also, the following people have dropped off the face of the game: risk.nuke, HiroPro and Stutters.

@all 3: give me your thoughts on foolishness, marv, yamato and cora.

Ver's absense is going beyond just lurking and into complete inactivity. He's cruising for a modkill. Giving up on even trying with him. If he makes another minimal throwaway effort today, we lynch him tomorrow as the scum he is: If he doesn't then he gets replaced/modkilled. No point worrying about him now.


I'm awake now and caught up.

Foolishness: I'm going to read some of his past games but I'm not sure I buy his trap. It's really his only post of value (aside from his meta analysis on Vivax based off of one of his scum games). He makes decent points but essentially all he said on Yamato was the vig shot was anti-town and so was the disappearing. His crossfire case is a bit better but again his whole case is based around an action and associations. If Yamato or cross flips town then everything in that post is random conjecture without any proof and he'll still have contributed nothing. He might make these types of cases all the time but I need to check it. I'm leaning scum but not my first choice.

My gut tells me town on Marv. He saw the same things on Cross that I saw d1 and really seemed to be the only other person really pushing for Cross when it was headed towards WBG around 24h in. Through his filter I don't see nearly as much jumping around as people say (he's jumped between his top targets which i don't remember him doing quite so much but he's got reasoning behind it).


Post on the other two coming up.

Also, he is bothering enough to answer my questions in full, because he actually followed up on this.

Finally:
On March 15 2013 07:08 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 05:55 marvellosity wrote:
On March 15 2013 05:53 Acrofales wrote:
On March 15 2013 05:11 Stutters695 wrote:
Arco can you expand on why you think if Foolishness is scum cross must be town? I'm not following that leap.

Xfire fired a nuke at Foolish. Xfire didn't know the nuke was fake (unless Xfire, Sloosh and Foolish are all scum together and this was a GIANT TRAP).

Therefore, if Foolish is scum, and Xfire is scum, then Xfire fired a nuke at his scumbuddy... out of nowhere and for no apparent reason. Not a likely scenario.


Yes, it's pretty obvious, the most interesting thing about it is that Stutters couldn't work out this logic for himself. It's not a leap... is Stutters just not reading? Crossfire's filter isn't very long to miss ##Nuke Foolishness

Obviously I saw the nukes.
I was thinking it wouldn't be too far of a stretch that if both were scum they'd obviously both know they both got nukes and assumed they were fake but if one happened to be real he'd get crazy town cred for it. Additionally given foolishness' post about not liking busses when he's scum it seemed like a distinct possibility to me. I'm probably just being paranoid though.

This just doesn't sound like scum. Even if he is scum, this kind of conspiracy wifom does not sound like something a first-time scum comes up with.

Is it a conclusive town read? No. This is a game with oodles of veterans and he might be getting heavy coaching. He has no scum meta to compare it to, so it is also possible he is just naturally good at scum (some players are... DarthPunk for instance, is fairly new and yet his scumplay has continuously fooled everybody in all his games).

However, for now I don't see any reason to worry about him.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 15 2013 00:32 GMT
#3197
Announcement: this is important!

Corazon is currently controlling two votes, and he's placed them both on himself. If Foolishness is telling the truth and he has a one-time shot at not being lynched (I am assuming it would only be one time, the game would be broken otherwise), we need about FOUR votes on Corazon, apart from his own and slOosh's, to prevent him moving both votes to someone else with 1 vote.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
March 15 2013 00:34 GMT
#3198
On March 15 2013 09:32 marvellosity wrote:
Announcement: this is important!

Corazon is currently controlling two votes, and he's placed them both on himself. If Foolishness is telling the truth and he has a one-time shot at not being lynched (I am assuming it would only be one time, the game would be broken otherwise), we need about FOUR votes on Corazon, apart from his own and slOosh's, to prevent him moving both votes to someone else with 1 vote.

Announcement
marvellosity is misleading you all and Corazon is town!

And sorry bro, it's not one-time, you'll have to stack some hits to get rid of me tonight.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
March 15 2013 00:37 GMT
#3199
prplhz knew how Plexa's role worked. He said Plexa has to send his actions in before dawn. He said he read it somewhere but forgot, it can't have been himself cause he wouldn't post this


On March 14 2013 05:21 prplhz wrote:
how did plexa know prior to the first nuke launching what sloosh had done?


##Vote prplhz
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 15 2013 00:37 GMT
#3200
On March 15 2013 09:34 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 09:32 marvellosity wrote:
Announcement: this is important!

Corazon is currently controlling two votes, and he's placed them both on himself. If Foolishness is telling the truth and he has a one-time shot at not being lynched (I am assuming it would only be one time, the game would be broken otherwise), we need about FOUR votes on Corazon, apart from his own and slOosh's, to prevent him moving both votes to someone else with 1 vote.

Announcement
marvellosity is misleading you all and Corazon is town!

And sorry bro, it's not one-time, you'll have to stack some hits to get rid of me tonight.


I'm kinda tempted to believe that you're telling the truth and that the 2nd placed player does get lynched; which makes it all the more important for you right now that Corazon doesn't die and expose you even further.

I'm glad you came in to have a sarcastic pop at me rather than read the posts that I politely gave to you, though, that warms my heart.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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