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slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
March 14 2013 00:11 GMT
#2661
On March 14 2013 09:07 Acrofales wrote:
I still think Marv is town, and am uncomfortable voting Foolish as well after that giant post. Why the hell does it have to be between them? I think Cora is scum. And you trying to shut down discussion is pretty fucking suspicious too.

Because scum get off 2~3 more shots off today, confirmed town supersoft is no longer here to help us and clearly there's not that much in the rest of town that inspires confidence. That's why we talk about them today. I'm not shutting down discussion, I'm shutting down irrelevant talk. It's like if someone started talking about lynching lurkers.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
March 14 2013 00:13 GMT
#2662
On March 14 2013 09:11 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 09:07 Acrofales wrote:
I still think Marv is town, and am uncomfortable voting Foolish as well after that giant post. Why the hell does it have to be between them? I think Cora is scum. And you trying to shut down discussion is pretty fucking suspicious too.

Because scum get off 2~3 more shots off today, confirmed town supersoft is no longer here to help us and clearly there's not that much in the rest of town that inspires confidence. That's why we talk about them today. I'm not shutting down discussion, I'm shutting down irrelevant talk. It's like if someone started talking about lynching lurkers.


people on my trustlist earned their spots. Do not doubt them.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18217 Posts
March 14 2013 00:14 GMT
#2663
On March 14 2013 09:07 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 09:04 Acrofales wrote:
Sloosh, was that a voluntary use of your power and if so, why in god's name Cora?

Of course not, who the heck would give their vote away? It was not compulsory either, i.e. someone used it on me. And again, why are you getting distracted about little things?

How is that a little thing? It needed answering and you answered. There is clearly a politician fucking around with prplhz and sloosh.

I can't really see that power being town or at least this use of it being town, so for what it's worth, Cora is hard after Yamato (despite the unvote), which seems to mean that scum is okay with us killing Yamato.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 14 2013 00:16 GMT
#2664
i haven't a clue what's going on really

i feel the same way as acro and i don't want to lynch marv at all

cora would be an interesting lynch if we're really waiting for whatever with foolishness
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
March 14 2013 00:17 GMT
#2665
@Prom obviously the absence is no bueno but otherwise I don't see where you're getting a difference in my play.

Since you mentioned vivax also, I also haven't read that normal game you're talking about but this feels way more town than like his scum play in YANMM.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
March 14 2013 00:18 GMT
#2666
SlOosh I suppose your nukes are not duds and you really have the power to stop or not stop them then?

Cause then we can discuss other lynch choices than yamato/marv. But first I need to know how you will decide so I reread the right parts.

Anyway since I don't seem to need to make massive cases any more I'd like to quote some strange reasoning from yamato as a snack:

Taken from this post:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=400204&currentpage=39#778

Oats' response is exactly the response I want to give, as well. What scum has a detective role that mod confirms people as town, and then shoots them? Makes no sense from a mafia perspective.


This is really bad reasoning.

1: Some functions of Kurumi's role didn't make sense from town perspective either (he could frame people) and he should know it.
2. A flipped townie is modconfirmed so it doesn't really make a difference if there's an announcement saying they're town before they get shot.

As in, arguing you're town for having such a role is really weak.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
March 14 2013 00:27 GMT
#2667
Vivax, the nukes I gave out were all fake - "the power to stop them" was part of a further trap.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18217 Posts
March 14 2013 00:39 GMT
#2668
On March 14 2013 09:13 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 09:11 slOosh wrote:
On March 14 2013 09:07 Acrofales wrote:
I still think Marv is town, and am uncomfortable voting Foolish as well after that giant post. Why the hell does it have to be between them? I think Cora is scum. And you trying to shut down discussion is pretty fucking suspicious too.

Because scum get off 2~3 more shots off today, confirmed town supersoft is no longer here to help us and clearly there's not that much in the rest of town that inspires confidence. That's why we talk about them today. I'm not shutting down discussion, I'm shutting down irrelevant talk. It's like if someone started talking about lynching lurkers.


people on my trustlist earned their spots. Do not doubt them.

How did Cora get there? Frankly, just because you're confirmed town, doesn't make you right.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
March 14 2013 00:40 GMT
#2669
Well that's sad :| but would have been pretty strong so makes sense. Well played actually.

1. If Foolish was scum he would have shot marv since he's more threatening than yamato if he was town.So he shot a genuine scumread and it makes sense for him to shoot like that with his fail vig story (when no one really asked why he nuked yamato so promptly he still explained it)
2. If I was scum or town in danger of being lynched I would have shot...well marv, so it isn't really alignment indicative for me.
3. And Crossfire..Well he shot a guy who was main lynch candidate who's dangerous for scum when he's town and just had done something that confirmed him as town (1). Also he shot without reading the thread and testing for reactions like I did.

Anyway lynch yamato, crossfire or marv today the latter might be hard cause he has so many fanboys, some of them might just be scum though.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22183 Posts
March 14 2013 00:42 GMT
#2670
Also put Acro up there cause he's constantly asking the wrong questions while not contributing anything meaningful and I have to assume he's doing it on purpose.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 14 2013 00:45 GMT
#2671
oops, sorry super, meant to do that before I went away
though I disagree with his read his post did, my thoughts, sway
##UnvoteI'll look elsewhere for lynches
why do you say thats Cora is no grinch?
I was his scum coach so I might have something to say

Now of the list you posted in red
ver is the only one I might want dead
but why do that when he is at worst null
he has done nothing, been dull
I don't really see scum making that bed.

my thoughts are in turmoil
my cogs need some oil
please come help me decide
in you I confide
and so now, back to my toil
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
March 14 2013 00:45 GMT
#2672
<3 Vivax you are after my heart. But yea we can nail him later. Gotta focus today.

I want to lynch marv first because we have the most clout today and he is hardest to lynch today, but I assume Foolishness has a good reason to go in that order.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
March 14 2013 00:46 GMT
#2673
On March 14 2013 09:45 Promethelax wrote:
oops, sorry super, meant to do that before I went away
though I disagree with his read his post did, my thoughts, sway
##UnvoteI'll look elsewhere for lynches
why do you say thats Cora is no grinch?
I was his scum coach so I might have something to say

Now of the list you posted in red
ver is the only one I might want dead
but why do that when he is at worst null
he has done nothing, been dull
I don't really see scum making that bed.

my thoughts are in turmoil
my cogs need some oil
please come help me decide
in you I confide
and so now, back to my toil


just reread wbgs lynch, foolishs post, marvs claim and vote and foolishs opinion on vivax.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18217 Posts
March 14 2013 00:49 GMT
#2674
On March 14 2013 09:42 Vivax wrote:
Also put Acro up there cause he's constantly asking the wrong questions while not contributing anything meaningful and I have to assume he's doing it on purpose.

So risk.nuke and SnB have magically disappeared back off your list, while Xfire has made it on (and me apparently).

I'm going to ignore everything you say until I decide whether you're scum or town (and then just keep on ignoring it, but either push for your lynch or not).
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 14 2013 00:51 GMT
#2675
on the subject of 'ax
why gives his softclaims pass?
he won't listen to me
but you're green as can be
make him explain that.

I will do so again
so glad we could be friends
is this in answer about cDg
or something else entirely
I'll reread, but to what end?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 14 2013 01:00 GMT
#2676
You are all being very, very stupid. ONE post from Foolish and you behave like this? Two things.

On March 14 2013 08:41 supersoft wrote:
sloosh I LOVE it!

good job. You gave to nukes to the right people. Really well played. Seriously.
Okay my new circle of trust:

Prom, sloosh, Foolishness, vivax, cDgCorazon.
You don't vote each other.


On March 14 2013 09:01 supersoft wrote:
issue is between these guys today:

crossfire
Oatsmaster
Marv
Yamato
Ver


if you weren't confirmed town and dead, I'd lynch you for being really stupid. sorry supersoft.

The most important thing of all is this. This is the most important part of Foolish's post.

On March 14 2013 08:07 Foolishness wrote:

Can you summarize your post cause I don't have enough time to read this?
yamato, crossfire, marvellosity are all mafia, and should be killed in that order. The remaining two I don't know, maybe Ver or prphlz, maybe stutters or mocsta, not really sure.



yamato, crossfire, marvellosity, in that order. Ask yourself. Why in that order?

marvellosity-scum is a mafia leader. He's a mafia organiser, he's a mafia motivator. marvellosity-scum holds teams together. I am the head of any team, the danger. I have the best mafia record on the whole of TL for good reason. Check my profile.

marvellosity-scum is fucking shitting up the thread, throwing false accusations around, and town are prone to following marvellosity-scum. marvellosity-scum is far more destructive to the thread than crossfire-scum or yamato-scum.

marvellosity-scum SHOULD BE DYING TODAY. Not in 3 days.

Now ask yourself this. You know everything I have just said is true. it should be ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE that you cut off the head now.

Why has foolishness not called for my death today? Because he knows that it will be very, very, very hard to win a 1v1 with me. Even though you're all fawning over one mega-post. He's taking the easy way out.

To repeat, and it's in his filter, Foolishness is 100% sure I'm mafia. I should be the only lynch for today.

I on the other hand, am town, and am not taking the easy way out. Today, it is either me or Foolish. Make your beds and lie in it town. No-one else. Him. Me.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
March 14 2013 01:06 GMT
#2677
He is also 100% sure that yamato is scum so that's a null point.

Instead of pointing out the (what should be) obvious gaping logical holes of scum Foolishness' "case" in determining the three reads, you go after something inane. C'mon - rip it apart marv!

There is actually plenty of reason to lynch yamato first - him flipping red does a lot to the current playing field, which is why I'm waiting on supersoft / Foolishness.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
March 14 2013 01:07 GMT
#2678
On March 14 2013 10:00 marvellosity wrote:
The most important thing of all is this. This is the most important part of Foolish's post.

And this is obviously not true. If Foolishness is obv scum as you makes him out to be, then his whole case should scream it. Not the little footnote conclusion. Sick of your cherry picking marv. Sick of it.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
March 14 2013 01:08 GMT
#2679
On March 14 2013 10:06 slOosh wrote:
He is also 100% sure that yamato is scum so that's a null point.

Instead of pointing out the (what should be) obvious gaping logical holes of scum Foolishness' "case" in determining the three reads, you go after something inane. C'mon - rip it apart marv!

There is actually plenty of reason to lynch yamato first - him flipping red does a lot to the current playing field, which is why I'm waiting on supersoft / Foolishness.


no marv is right we gots to cut off the head
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 14 2013 01:15 GMT
#2680
On March 14 2013 10:06 slOosh wrote:
He is also 100% sure that yamato is scum so that's a null point.

Instead of pointing out the (what should be) obvious gaping logical holes of scum Foolishness' "case" in determining the three reads, you go after something inane. C'mon - rip it apart marv!

There is actually plenty of reason to lynch yamato first - him flipping red does a lot to the current playing field, which is why I'm waiting on supersoft / Foolishness.

I would like to expand this request, marv.

Adress the other two reads fool posted in there too.
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