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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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marvellosity
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
There's no way I've been the least productive player this game. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On March 14 2013 06:14 marvellosity wrote: I am paranoid as shit about yamato's disappearance though not alignment indicative imo. | ||
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Vivax
22296 Posts
2. I think that SlOosh's role works this way: He has to give three nukes to townies, but can only pick one shot to go through, this involves him being scum. If he lets the shot against yamato go through in consistency with his earlier case, this possibility is dismissed and we can finally go on without that WIFOMY dude around who has been obviously defended by mafia. 3. I laughed frantically at this. Again, this is really important. Someone stole his vote. HIS VOTE. There's that stupid line in some of the OPs or the PMs when you'e a VT about how all you have is your voice and your vote. His vote is gone. | ||
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Vivax
22296 Posts
We're back to scratch thanks to SlOosh's stuff. Ver hasn't shown himself. Super good Ver hasn't show himself. Marv didn't post his statistics about "lynched as town=0%" for Ver but wants to lynch Foolish who is writing about 3000 % more than super good townie Ver. on weak reasons arguing that Foolish would post more and would not be under suspicion if he was town. Marv defends yamato who doesn't play like town yamato, shot a townie roleplaying a fake Chezinu and has to have been defended by scum by virtue of numbers when he could have been an awesome target for scum given his actions with Kurumi. 2 of the people on his wagon were townie, + everything I already posted about him earlier: + Show Spoiler + On March 13 2013 00:49 Vivax wrote: Your role is more anti-town than anything. Already using it so early in the day on a player looking so bad at the time is scummy and only convenient for you. You were willing to bet a townie life against a check that no one would believe cause it would have been a D1 check. If you were town you'd be seriously stupid, but I know you aren't. Neither of both. On March 13 2013 00:59 Vivax wrote: Had VE as scumread before the shot, but didn't shoot him. Proof that yamato is scum Yamato announces that the problem will be solved when he doesn't know if he gets a check back or Kurumi dies. Yamato knew Kurumi would die and says he doesn't have to announce the shot in the thread but claimed it on his own - despite not knowing if he'll get a check back he says that "The problem will be solved". The actual announcement comes later His reaction after knowing Kurumi would die as town: On March 13 2013 01:08 Vivax wrote: Now, aside from the fact that yamato didn't shoot his "scumread", he didn't play as if he expected to get a check back on Kurumi no, he posted as if he knew he would get shot. What if he had the chance to get a check back from Kurumi (like he should believe), why announce something beforehand when you don't know the outcome? Let's assume he expected to get a red check back on Kurumi, would he announce it in the thread or wait for the outcome and only claim the shot if he hit green? In case he hit red he could simply push Kurumi or claim the check afterwards. In case of green he could have stayed silent or claimed it or whatever he wanted to, but he chose the stupid way, why? Explanation: For his role to work he had to play the shot like MZ played it. He had to announce that he would shoot someone in the thread for his role to work, but refuses to admit it. Every other explanation doesn't make sense unless he's a massive derp. On March 13 2013 01:29 Vivax wrote: ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ He chose to shoot Kurumi for martyring over his "scumread" VE in the arc of 13 minutes. Bugs was martyring, too but he pumps out a 5 guy list instead of going for Bugs who does the same as Kurumi. Kurumi martyring is a good enough reason to shoot him but Bugs doing that isn't a good enough reason to lynch him over 4 others? Inconsistent reasons, terrible role usage, indications of him knowing Kurumi's flip beforehand ( + general subjective scumminess). ##Vote yamato77 | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On March 14 2013 03:34 slOosh wrote: Sup dudes, caller here. Oh wat? The Plan Give various people NUKEs. Two reasons a) See how people use it. Do they treat it carefully? Do they trust it? Do they just shoot whatever? b) If multiple scum members received it, there will be information leak. They know that multiple NUKEs were given. Information pump yea? c) My last night post was designed in a way where it seemed like they had to fire the NUKEs or it blows up on themselves. Dunno how well this worked or not, but there is more information if people use it rather than if people don't. d) I have ANTI NUKE countermeasures so it doesn't matter if I hand them to scum - in fact it is better because we see true motives come out. e) (for him who knows) You town. I'm glad. I'm saying this all now because enough information has passed and we need time to properly look over it (I'm still doing it myself). p.s. Vivax please cut back on the spam. I understand where you are coming from, I really do, but it is disrupting what we are doing here. The way that marv is handling this NUKE business is one of the most sensible of the lot. Leave him alone for this day cycle please. sloosh, you scum? look at viv's crumb is clear he knew nukes = at least two whats this gambit you're trying to run? On March 14 2013 00:23 Vivax wrote: I know you got it just like I did. There's an inventor out there who can pick something to distribute. Either the nukes get distributed randomly or following a pattern. Maybe some of them are fake and some aren't. | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
Twenty pages of spam and nothing has really changed at all. Marv should know better than to pay attention to scum Foolish and his WIFOM. | ||
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Vivax
22296 Posts
1. Arguing some dude is town cause he would give up as mafia. Says he provides contributions and points when he's around when mafia does that too as matter of survival, not commenting on the quality or purpose of these contributions, just on the number apparently. Also Ver doesn't do exactly that and marv still doesn't think he's scum. strongandbig - I think he's probably town. I know recently he's had a massive motivation problem with mafia in general, and I think if he rolled mafia this game he'd just have completely given up. Lurkier than I like but is actually providing some contributions and points when he's around. This is the guy marv thinks is town right now: 2. Ver. Really absent. Maybe he should be in somewhat scummy. I just don't know. confuses the fuck out of me. + Show Spoiler + On March 13 2013 11:59 marvellosity wrote: OK this is going to be a bit of a ramble and possibly unstructured. This corresponds to how I feel about the game. I guess it's only night 1 but i'm less certain on so many people than I like. I'm going to start with the wishy washy (my thoughts that is, not how they've played necessarily) middle. risk, prplhz, BC, Stutters, slOosh, Mocsta, Ver (ugh), Acrofales, supersoft. ok quick rundown. I like risk when he's around, it feels like town risk. But he's not around enough, and that's more mafia risk. prplhz. super lurky, although a decent case on BC. Some posts feel like town prplhz, but the lurkiness, oh the lurkiness. I'm banking on his weird anger towards me being genuine, but i'm not sure. BC. Weird roleplaying thing that he's trying to excuse how he's playing. I don't like it. I don't like how he said I outright lied about him, when it clearly wasn't the case, as per what VE and I wrote. I'm pretty clearly town to most people reading the thread properly, BC has a brain, so I should be pretty clearly town to him too. Instead he's baselessly attacking me. Not good. But I don't think he should be a focus tomorrow. Stutters - super lurky and bad, called out, did some stuff, disappeared. Don't know what to make of him. his contributions seemed ok when he stopped RPing. bleh. slOosh. absent. bad. maybe his push on yamato is genuine. maybe his role thing up there is genuine. wait and see. could well be mafia, but could still be town. Mocsta. Snipey and unhelpful, but isn't shitting up the thread. don't know where i stand with him. Ver. Really absent. Maybe he should be in somewhat scummy. I just don't know. confuses the fuck out of me. Acrofales. wasn't sure what he has been trying to achieve so far this game. but reads post that he just made looks decent at first glance. i expect him to be stepping it up and helping day 2 if he's town. supersoft, not getting mafia vibes. but really, really unproductive, which is unlike supersoft. bleh. [u]People I'm town on to varying degrees Hiro. Too lurky I guess, but his posts feel genuine when he makes them. I'm not sure, but I'm kinda leaning town here. I don't see why he should be a focus tomorrow at all. VE. Has backed me up, whether on purpose or not, on several occasions. So he's seeing the game the way i am. I hope to god he's town. I think he's town, no reason at all not to at this stage. Dandel. His play really does feel nothing like British II that he just came out of as mafia. He's more helpful and productive, even if still trolly, but he'll always be that way. I liked his catch on Acro's sheeping at the end of day 1, which may or may not mean anything. austin. seems to be thinking about the game and caring about the game, engaging people in conversation. I have no real reason to think austin is mafia at this point. Oatsmaster. Suspicious of a lot of people, that's how he plays town. He is always all over the place, he asks stupid questions, and apparently contradicts himself quite a bit. this doesn't make him mafia. Oats plays SCARED as mafia. Posts like these are not scared: strongandbig - I think he's probably town. I know recently he's had a massive motivation problem with mafia in general, and I think if he rolled mafia this game he'd just have completely given up. Lurkier than I like but is actually providing some contributions and points when he's around. iamp - posting less than I like, but some posts give me a warm and fuzzy vibe. don't see a reason to look at him right now. especially as he made me a giggle. good towntell ;D Promethelax - despite posting in limericks, seems to have a clear plan and idea to his play. he was all over the shop as mafia in LX, his limerick posts actually make more sense than his awful posts here. MAYBE he's hiding behind it? but i don't think so right now. yamato - his posting today makes me feel better about him. i still think he's town, i'm not certain, but I don't want to lynch him right now either. More interesting things [b]Vivax! Not actually certain Vivax is mafia at all. Here's the thing about Vivax. He's absolutely batshit insane. This is usually a pretty solid town tell for Vivax. However there are a few specific things that make me worry about using this broadbrush read. 1) a really weird slight town read on Crossfire 2) calling Foolishness town and attacking me, despite having not read either filter and missing TWO things in Foolishness' under one page filter 3) asking me to ragequit like in LVIII. He knows I was town there, and he also probably knows that I only genuinely really rage when I'm town. I don't like this at all. So Vivax, I don't know. Crossfire Nothing in his filter says town. At all. The reason we didn't lynch him is because he conveninently showed up as the votes were piling on him, and was like "oh lol is it deadline lol daylights saving time" and it seemed kinda genuine. What the fuck has he done with this reprieve? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Looks like mafia. Corazon I think he's mafia. I'm running out of time so I can't quote posts, but his push on yamato feels really forced. If I'm dead, go read back through his filter. Look at how he talks about his push on yamato. It continuously reads that he's going to keep pushing yamato until he doesn't have to anymore. He refuses to do anything else, but he basically says "yeah I'm just going to tunnel yamato". He's not active or engaged with anything else. When yamato was in the thread earlier talking with austin, corazon came back to the thread to tunnel yamato some more, and disappeared, deciding not to take the time to make conversation with his main scumread. Looks like mafia. Foolishness Apparently he's short of time because he's doing jack shit. He got caught in a lie by saying that he always finds me scummy, even though that's impossible, everything he said about that, our games together, my smurf game, has been disproved. He's kinda around but not doing anything. I'm quoting this post for length He had the time to make a post like this, but not do anything more than skim the thread for a read he'd later recant? Why not spend that fucking time writing the post doing something useful? This fucking REEKS of mafia making some kinda post to make it look like they're doing something. But he wasn't. I've run out of time. This will have to do. | ||
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slOosh
3291 Posts
On March 14 2013 07:04 Promethelax wrote: sloosh, you scum? look at viv's crumb is clear he knew nukes = at least two whats this gambit you're trying to run? I don't understand your question - everyone knew nukes >= 2 at the time of his post. On March 13 2013 22:35 kitaman27 wrote: A nuclear missile has been launched targeting yamato77. The missile will detonate at the end of the day cycle. On March 14 2013 00:03 kitaman27 wrote: A nuclear missile has been launched targeting Foolishness. The missile will detonate at the end of the day cycle. | ||
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slOosh
3291 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18263 Posts
I guess that requires Vivax and Foolishness to be scum together. I guess it's possible, but not really sold on the idea, because it's not a giant jump in logic to go from "I was given a nuke" to "Everybody who has a nuke was given it". | ||
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Vivax
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On March 14 2013 06:53 Vivax wrote: 2. Is more of a speculation/gamble to see if I was right later I'm not going to base my reads on that yet. Consider it a loud thought with no relevance for the objectives. We're back to scratch thanks to SlOosh's stuff. Ver hasn't shown himself. Super good Ver hasn't show himself. Marv didn't post his statistics about "lynched as town=0%" for Ver but wants to lynch Foolish who is writing about 3000 % more than super good townie Ver. on weak reasons arguing that Foolish would post more and would not be under suspicion if he was town. Marv defends yamato who doesn't play like town yamato, shot a townie roleplaying a fake Chezinu and has to have been defended by scum by virtue of numbers when he could have been an awesome target for scum given his actions with Kurumi. 2 of the people on his wagon were townie, + everything I already posted about him earlier: + Show Spoiler + On March 13 2013 00:49 Vivax wrote: Your role is more anti-town than anything. Already using it so early in the day on a player looking so bad at the time is scummy and only convenient for you. You were willing to bet a townie life against a check that no one would believe cause it would have been a D1 check. If you were town you'd be seriously stupid, but I know you aren't. Neither of both. On March 13 2013 00:59 Vivax wrote: Had VE as scumread before the shot, but didn't shoot him. Proof that yamato is scum Yamato announces that the problem will be solved when he doesn't know if he gets a check back or Kurumi dies. Yamato knew Kurumi would die and says he doesn't have to announce the shot in the thread but claimed it on his own - despite not knowing if he'll get a check back he says that "The problem will be solved". The actual announcement comes later His reaction after knowing Kurumi would die as town: On March 13 2013 01:08 Vivax wrote: Now, aside from the fact that yamato didn't shoot his "scumread", he didn't play as if he expected to get a check back on Kurumi no, he posted as if he knew he would get shot. What if he had the chance to get a check back from Kurumi (like he should believe), why announce something beforehand when you don't know the outcome? Let's assume he expected to get a red check back on Kurumi, would he announce it in the thread or wait for the outcome and only claim the shot if he hit green? In case he hit red he could simply push Kurumi or claim the check afterwards. In case of green he could have stayed silent or claimed it or whatever he wanted to, but he chose the stupid way, why? Explanation: For his role to work he had to play the shot like MZ played it. He had to announce that he would shoot someone in the thread for his role to work, but refuses to admit it. Every other explanation doesn't make sense unless he's a massive derp. On March 13 2013 01:29 Vivax wrote: ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ He chose to shoot Kurumi for martyring over his "scumread" VE in the arc of 13 minutes. Bugs was martyring, too but he pumps out a 5 guy list instead of going for Bugs who does the same as Kurumi. Kurumi martyring is a good enough reason to shoot him but Bugs doing that isn't a good enough reason to lynch him over 4 others? Inconsistent reasons, terrible role usage, indications of him knowing Kurumi's flip beforehand ( + general subjective scumminess). ##Vote yamato77 posting more != townie, as you revelled in pointing out to me  | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On March 14 2013 06:36 Vivax wrote: 1. Cora's latest posts look townie as fuck. 2. I think that SlOosh's role works this way: He has to give three nukes to townies, but can only pick one shot to go through, this involves him being scum. If he lets the shot against yamato go through in consistency with his earlier case, this possibility is dismissed and we can finally go on without that WIFOMY dude around who has been obviously defended by mafia. 3. I laughed frantically at this. if you're town, you seem to be playing the Opposite Game. It's kinda hilarious. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Vivax
22296 Posts
Spoiler the quotes at least. SlOosh, I'm currently thinking you're town by connection actually, but if you kill Foolish and let marv and yamato go you do basically everything wrong. I know it's hard to argue against a town who has this strong tendency to rub vet butt, but I think you should let all nukes hit if you think Foolish is scum. I would argue for you to take the nuke off Foolish but I'd prefer a compromise. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18263 Posts
Then again, half the active, townie people have gone buggering off this game. Iamp all game, Prom and Yamato today. | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On March 14 2013 07:51 Vivax wrote: Marv is back to spam up the thread. Spoiler the quotes at least. SlOosh, I'm currently thinking you're town by connection actually, but if you kill Foolish and let marv and yamato go you do basically everything wrong. I know it's hard to argue against a town who has this strong tendency to rub vet butt, but I think you should let all nukes hit if you think Foolish is scum. I would argue for you to take the nuke off Foolish but I'd prefer a compromise. lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol why do people not read the thread like you morons are all "oh no mason why don't you play more you need to post etc etc" but at least i read the fucking thread | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On March 14 2013 07:53 strongandbig wrote: lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol why do people not read the thread like you morons are all "oh no strongandbig why don't you play more you need to post etc etc" but at least i read the fucking thread | ||
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