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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
March 13 2013 01:00 GMT
#1121
Day 3
[image loading]

WaveOfShadows woke up confused and disoriented. He was cut off from the hive. He had a weird thing in his claws. Not minerals, not vespene, nothing he normally carried around. What was this thing? He couldn't think. This was not surprising, drones hardly ever need to. However, he also couldn't hear the Queen's thoughts or commands.

Vaguely, fuzzily, he remembered he was supposed to run away with the thing. WaveOfShadows started running. Straight into a siege tank.

WaveOfShadows, the Drone (Vanilla Townie) was run over by a siege tank.

It is now day 3. The day will last for 48 hours, until Thursday, at [unparsable timestamp format]. Voting is mandatory.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
March 13 2013 01:09 GMT
#1122
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 13 2013 01:12 GMT
#1123
##Vote: MLuneth

Don't let this guy slip another day. Luneth, if you think this is unwarranted, be useful today.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 13 2013 01:13 GMT
#1124
Hmmmm

GG WoS.

Can somebody research WoS interactions while I continue going through the thread? I know his filter was decently long but it could give us some vital info.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 13 2013 01:14 GMT
#1125
Wave is a pretty big loss, that being said I'm not surprised to see him go tonight. We're all going to have to step it up to make up for his absence.
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 13 2013 01:18 GMT
#1126
@Sn0_Man To shortly summarize, Wave was the first to push for an AD lynch on the first say, and AD ended up being scum. I'm assuming he was targeted N1 by the mafia too. Day 2 he was pushing for a MLuneth lynch and started questioning Omni for tunneling the innocent Meatless Taco once Day 2 ended. I believe he was on the right track with everything and we need to keep following those leads. More in a bit...
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 13 2013 01:21 GMT
#1127
GG guys. I'm sad to be gone so early. GL!
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 13 2013 02:23 GMT
#1128
So I wanted to discuss others who might be scum for future reference, even though right now I think MLuneth is definite scum that needs to be disposed of.

Omni

Not a good voting record here. Looking back at his entire filter, he's only voted on 3 people ever: myself, Arctic, and Meatless. 2 are confirmed to be wrong (maybe not in everyone's eyes but certainly in mine). He did change to Meatless before joining the AD bandwagon, but keep in mind that at this point Nobodywonder had a lot of votes, and if he was scum maybe he was hoping NW would get lynched without looking responsible. Then he cleverly set up another town for lynch day 2.

Now consider his thought process. Omni himself admits that his vote on me was done without much to go on besides lurking. That's fine; this can be a pressure vote and get the person to come out and contribute more. The thing is, he hasn't been consistent doing this. A lot of people in this game have cast several pressure votes early on and changed them. Not Omni. He decided to attack me before figuring that Meatless might be an easier and more convincing target. He then proceeded to tunnel Meatless for 2 days. No real talk about AD other than "yeah I agree he's looking scummy", and not much on Luneth at all.

Now the bickering with geript has been interesting. A distraction, perhaps? People started getting uneasy at the seemingly meaningless argument between them, which distracts from the real task at hand. And in the end Omni got his wish and got Taco lynched. This could still be nothing though because if its' Luneth and Omni as the 2 other scum, that's game right there. I'm just looking for connections and people working together. All I know is I want more actual contribution from geript and less stupid jokes. Easy for you to claim you've been onto Omni all along when a mislynch was happening anyway.

Rainbows

Looked quickly through his filter and he still comes up pro-town for me. For some reason when I was thinking about this earlier away from my computer I wondered if there was a connection between him and Omni, but there doesn't appear to be. Rainbows did vote for NW and myself on day 1 before lurking, but then he spent day 2 pushing for a MLuneth lynch relentlessly and given that Wave was killed for doing the same thing I tend to think that is pro-town behavior.

In Conclusion

I want MLuneth lynched today because he is scum and we will learn a lot from it. But I'm really starting to question Omni's bad reads. He posts a lot and people tend to listen because it looks like he put a lot of time into his cases. But just because a case is long doesn't mean it isn't filled with misinformation and inaccuracies. In fact, the chance of this increases. Also, I'm concerned about those who replaced the lurkers. You guys really have to prove yourselves because the lurkers were looking pretty bad before you came in. It makes it really hard to proceed with the constant change so if you guys aren't helpful I'm going to assume that you have something to hide. I look forward to hearing from everyone.
bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
March 13 2013 02:31 GMT
#1129
Is the reference to a Siege Tank trying to say something about a potential mafia roleblocker?

Sn0_Man, the reason you need to post, a lot, is that the person you're replacing posted hardly anything at all, so we hardly have anything on the two of you combined. Lurking at this point would make me, at least, very suspicious of you - please do try to catch up and contribute at least a little bit.
>Liquid'Nazgul: Of course you are completely right
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 13 2013 02:44 GMT
#1130
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Not WoS! My will to live is gone now.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 13 2013 02:46 GMT
#1131
On March 13 2013 11:23 Frorgon wrote:
So I wanted to discuss others who might be scum for future reference, even though right now I think MLuneth is definite scum that needs to be disposed of.

Omni

Not a good voting record here. Looking back at his entire filter, he's only voted on 3 people ever: myself, Arctic, and Meatless. 2 are confirmed to be wrong (maybe not in everyone's eyes but certainly in mine). He did change to Meatless before joining the AD bandwagon, but keep in mind that at this point Nobodywonder had a lot of votes, and if he was scum maybe he was hoping NW would get lynched without looking responsible. Then he cleverly set up another town for lynch day 2.

Now consider his thought process. Omni himself admits that his vote on me was done without much to go on besides lurking. That's fine; this can be a pressure vote and get the person to come out and contribute more. The thing is, he hasn't been consistent doing this. A lot of people in this game have cast several pressure votes early on and changed them. Not Omni. He decided to attack me before figuring that Meatless might be an easier and more convincing target. He then proceeded to tunnel Meatless for 2 days. No real talk about AD other than "yeah I agree he's looking scummy", and not much on Luneth at all.

Now the bickering with geript has been interesting. A distraction, perhaps? People started getting uneasy at the seemingly meaningless argument between them, which distracts from the real task at hand. And in the end Omni got his wish and got Taco lynched. This could still be nothing though because if its' Luneth and Omni as the 2 other scum, that's game right there. I'm just looking for connections and people working together. All I know is I want more actual contribution from geript and less stupid jokes. Easy for you to claim you've been onto Omni all along when a mislynch was happening anyway.

Rainbows

Looked quickly through his filter and he still comes up pro-town for me. For some reason when I was thinking about this earlier away from my computer I wondered if there was a connection between him and Omni, but there doesn't appear to be. Rainbows did vote for NW and myself on day 1 before lurking, but then he spent day 2 pushing for a MLuneth lynch relentlessly and given that Wave was killed for doing the same thing I tend to think that is pro-town behavior.

In Conclusion

I want MLuneth lynched today because he is scum and we will learn a lot from it. But I'm really starting to question Omni's bad reads. He posts a lot and people tend to listen because it looks like he put a lot of time into his cases. But just because a case is long doesn't mean it isn't filled with misinformation and inaccuracies. In fact, the chance of this increases. Also, I'm concerned about those who replaced the lurkers. You guys really have to prove yourselves because the lurkers were looking pretty bad before you came in. It makes it really hard to proceed with the constant change so if you guys aren't helpful I'm going to assume that you have something to hide. I look forward to hearing from everyone.


The big issue I have with lynching Omni is god he seems to be so intent on fixing mistakes that a scum who knows about them should be abusing. I dunno if I'm reading too much into that... but it just seems like a very weird chocie for the one guy that is telling everyone how such lines of thought are purely poisonous and circumstantional at best and dangerous on average is the mafia guy. He should be like: Yea.... you should totally hang this guy using that logic.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 13 2013 02:48 GMT
#1132
Not going to lie, I'm feeling kinda lost here. Just going back through agian.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
March 13 2013 02:54 GMT
#1133
On March 13 2013 11:31 bduddy wrote:
Is the reference to a Siege Tank trying to say something about a potential mafia roleblocker?

Sn0_Man, the reason you need to post, a lot, is that the person you're replacing posted hardly anything at all, so we hardly have anything on the two of you combined. Lurking at this point would make me, at least, very suspicious of you - please do try to catch up and contribute at least a little bit.

Any and all flavour is only flavour
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 13 2013 02:54 GMT
#1134
I'm wondering what this actually means.... WoS was almost certain he was saved by a jailkeeper night one, and Krafia said he was normal role blocked and seemed to me to at least be soft claiming blue and leaving small bread clumbs. This could confirm Krafia as what he said... or it could not I guess, but its something to consider ant it?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 13 2013 02:55 GMT
#1135
On March 13 2013 11:54 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2013 11:31 bduddy wrote:
Is the reference to a Siege Tank trying to say something about a potential mafia roleblocker?

Sn0_Man, the reason you need to post, a lot, is that the person you're replacing posted hardly anything at all, so we hardly have anything on the two of you combined. Lurking at this point would make me, at least, very suspicious of you - please do try to catch up and contribute at least a little bit.

Any and all flavour is only flavour


Why do none of the end of night posts have flavor?!
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 13 2013 02:56 GMT
#1136
Random side note... I picked up my marine Icon mourning WoS, please do not kill me. This is not any proof I am a made man.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 13 2013 02:59 GMT
#1137
On March 13 2013 11:54 TheRavensName wrote:
I'm wondering what this actually means.... WoS was almost certain he was saved by a jailkeeper night one, and Krafia said he was normal role blocked and seemed to me to at least be soft claiming blue and leaving small bread clumbs. This could confirm Krafia as what he said... or it could not I guess, but its something to consider ant it?

To really evaluate that we would have to know how many roleblocks there were last night. I agree that WoS was saved night 1, but if there aren't 2 roleblocks today then we can assume that he was lying. Your thoughts?
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
March 13 2013 03:23 GMT
#1138
Maybe the jailer decided to try and roleblock suspected mafia. If it were me I would have just jailed WoS again instead of take a guess and maybe block one out of the 2 mafia, but idk.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 13 2013 03:33 GMT
#1139
Raven, where do you think Rainbows and OE are? I don't see a real reason for two people who have been active at points to go into lurk mode this hard.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 13 2013 03:36 GMT
#1140
On March 13 2013 12:33 geript wrote:
Raven, where do you think Rainbows and OE are? I don't see a real reason for two people who have been active at points to go into lurk mode this hard.


I gotta be honest.... I dunno. Omni didn't even seem to want to make sure the Meatless lynch went through, he seemed content to let me and a few others build the case for him. and I've been suspicious of how balls deep rainbow was day one, and even more so sense he hasn't seemed to replicate it sense or even during the last half of day one.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
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