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bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
March 11 2013 06:13 GMT
#961
On March 11 2013 14:05 Rainbows wrote:
I'd rather lynch Geript than OE. We should also kll MLuneth gogogo vote him.
...WTF is up with you? I know you've been active (occasionally) and tried to provoke responses out of people, but you're getting ridiculous at this point, and I don't mean ridiculously helpful.
>Liquid'Nazgul: Of course you are completely right
MLuneth
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia557 Posts
March 11 2013 09:39 GMT
#962
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 10 2013 13:56 Rainbows wrote:
Hey guys, sorry I've pretty much been a lurking piece of shit so far since mid day 1. Sorry, things to do, people to see, roomates to argue with.

I'm looking at the red lynch atm... MLuneth is looking like a prime candidate for todays lynch imo.

Opening Post
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 12:24 MLuneth wrote:
Flavour was certainly pretty sweet

I know it's my first game so I'm still learning but I don't think we should just lynch Krafla without reason, even if it would be fantastically ironic.
Your post Omni seems pretty reasonable and a good basis to work on ^_^


Completely buddies Omni, and acts all "pro town" by not wanting to lynch Krafla (which, was obviously a troll vote).

MLuneth joke votes me, but someone calls him out on it, and get's really paranoid.

Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 12:55 MLuneth wrote:
Last post was a joke, if that wasn't clear


Why would town need to verify their obvious joke post was a joke? Nervous scum.

A weak distancing attempt


Basically coinflip votes Arctic Daishi, which seems oddly enough like an attempt to disassociate the two should one of them flip. There is no reasoning behind it.

Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 17:34 MLuneth wrote:
EBWOP Forgot to add TheRavensName to above list of people that have done little

Coin said
##Vote: Arctic Daishi


This scummy vote
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 16:29 MLuneth wrote:
##Vote: nobodywonder

This vote is basically the result suspiciously targeting lurkers but more importantly the lack of an acceptable coherent defence.

Rainbow, it strikes me as odd that while you have accused/pressured people to find out their position on certain matters but your position is not clear. In what circumstances would you lynch a lurker?


Blatantly sheeps the NW vote, and keeps it there the entire game. And for what reason? Suspiciously targeting lurkers... OH WAIT, hypocrisy! Wasn't that exactly what MLuneth was doing? In addition, ML is picking on someone that hasn't defended themselves explicitly. Scum want to hit the easiest target, and someone who provided an "acceptable coherent defence" is just that.

Look at this vote again. Notice how he asks ME a question. Why me? Why not, you know, the guy you are voting for and want to lynch? Town mentality = zero. The vote is a blatant sheep with little-to-no reason and is used as a catalyst (somehow) to ask me a question. The vote is more about me than it is about NW.

Lynch this guy.

Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 07:48 MLuneth wrote:
My vote in NW stays the same because there has still been no coherent defence to tell me why NW is not scum.

I agree that other players are looking very suspicious too but I'm more confident that NW is scum than they are


^ There's that "no defence" statement again. ML hasn't attempted (even badly) to scumhunt at all to find a better candidate than NW.

@MLuneth

Respond to this. Do things. Stop playing the noob card all game and perform.

Responding to said things.
Opening Post
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 07 2013 12:24 MLuneth wrote:
Flavour was certainly pretty sweet

I know it's my first game so I'm still learning but I don't think we should just lynch Krafla without reason, even if it would be fantastically ironic.
Your post Omni seems pretty reasonable and a good basis to work on ^_^


Completely buddies Omni, and acts all "pro town" by not wanting to lynch Krafla (which, was obviously a troll vote).


I think you're reading into it a bit too much here, sounds like you've already decided that I'm maf -__-

MLuneth joke votes me, but someone calls him out on it, and get's really paranoid.
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 07 2013 12:55 MLuneth wrote:
Last post was a joke, if that wasn't clear


Why would town need to verify their obvious joke post was a joke? Nervous scum.

Town can get lynched too. Nervous town doesn't want to get lynched D1 for a misunderstanding on a joke post.


A weak distancing attempt

+ Show Spoiler +
Basically coinflip votes Arctic Daishi, which seems oddly enough like an attempt to disassociate the two should one of them flip. There is no reasoning behind it.

On March 07 2013 17:34 MLuneth wrote:
EBWOP Forgot to add TheRavensName to above list of people that have done little

It really pisses me off that you seem to think that there is no reasoning behind this after I have explained that this was a pressure vote to get Daishi to stop lurking. Either that or you're just straight up lying.


This scummy vote
On March 08 2013 16:29 MLuneth wrote:
##Vote: nobodywonder

This vote is basically the result suspiciously targeting lurkers but more importantly the lack of an acceptable coherent defence.

Rainbow, it strikes me as odd that while you have accused/pressured people to find out their position on certain matters but your position is not clear. In what circumstances would you lynch a lurker?

Blatantly sheeps the NW vote, and keeps it there the entire game. And for what reason? Suspiciously targeting lurkers... OH WAIT, hypocrisy! Wasn't that exactly what MLuneth was doing? In addition, ML is picking on someone that hasn't defended themselves explicitly. Scum want to hit the easiest target, and someone who provided an "acceptable coherent defence" is just that.
+ Show Spoiler +


I would like to point out a previous post before I address this:


While I believe that nobodywonder's actions have been suspicious and that his case is less than stellar, I feel that it is foolish to lynch someone who has made an addition to the game (albeit at this point small) should not be lynched over a person that has simply lurked for 2 days straight.
I feel I need to point out that Frogon, as well as Krafla and Matriarch (to a lesser extent) have all input a similar amount of information as nobodywonder.

At this stage with so little info to go on I can only flip a coin on whether to vote Artic Daishi or bduddy



This post at the very least shows that I was considering NW before I "sheeped" on that vote. I did "sheep" on that vote simply because there was a strong case against NW that I had already previously been considering. I have already addressed my "targeting" of lurkers. I want to attack what is (imo) the most likely person to be maf. If I have to sheep to do that, fine I will sheep.

I'm not sure if
Scum want to hit the easiest target, and someone who provided an "acceptable coherent defence" is just that
.
is a spelling mistake, but someone who provides a clear coherent defence is not an easy target bro.
This.... "Thing"

+ Show Spoiler +
]Look at this vote again. Notice how he asks ME a question. Why me? Why not, you know, the guy you are voting for and want to lynch? Town mentality = zero. The vote is a blatant sheep with little-to-no reason and is used as a catalyst (somehow) to ask me a question. The vote is more about me than it is about NW.

Read my posts which clearly show my reasoning before you make idiotic statements like this.
Why not NW? I've already asked him questions and was waiting for a response.
OMGUS?

Next post will show how Rainbows post on me was incredibly scummy is OMGUS but points will be valid
Innovation is a PatchTerran
Krafla
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom104 Posts
March 11 2013 09:44 GMT
#963
Good morning all, sorry I've been MASSIVELY INACTIVE again.

So it looks like the vote at the moment is between MLuneth or MeatlessTaco.

I was initially suspicious of MeatlessTaco due to his aggressive nature, but early on I decided against a vote for him because he'd contributed more than nobodywonder. Now by the time night one rolled around I'd been convinced by reading through the thread that a check on MLuneth would provide a better return than a check on Meatless.

It turns out it didn't matter who I made a check on because I got roleblocked. Now (Warning speculation) assuming I was RB'd by the scum and not by the town, who do you think the Mafia would've seen as my most likely target?

Especially over the night there was a lot of speculation towards MLuneth, which is what persuaded me to use my check on MLuneth. Now if I picked MLuneth as the person most warranting a check, what are the chances that the mob second guessed me and blocked me?

For the moment I'm going to

##Vote: MLuneth

primarily because even though he was active at the time he didn't switch his vote when near the end of Day 1 whilst town was coming to the consensus that a vote on AD was better.

MLuneth
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia557 Posts
March 11 2013 10:03 GMT
#964
While this may seem OMGUS motivated I implore you to consider my points before passing this up as OMGUS crap.
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 10 2013 13:56 Rainbows wrote:
Hey guys, sorry I've pretty much been a lurking piece of shit so far since mid day 1. Sorry, things to do, people to see, roomates to argue with.

I'm looking at the red lynch atm... MLuneth is looking like a prime candidate for todays lynch imo.

Opening Post
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 12:24 MLuneth wrote:
Flavour was certainly pretty sweet

I know it's my first game so I'm still learning but I don't think we should just lynch Krafla without reason, even if it would be fantastically ironic.
Your post Omni seems pretty reasonable and a good basis to work on ^_^


Completely buddies Omni, and acts all "pro town" by not wanting to lynch Krafla (which, was obviously a troll vote).

MLuneth joke votes me, but someone calls him out on it, and get's really paranoid.

Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 12:55 MLuneth wrote:
Last post was a joke, if that wasn't clear


Why would town need to verify their obvious joke post was a joke? Nervous scum.

A weak distancing attempt


Basically coinflip votes Arctic Daishi, which seems oddly enough like an attempt to disassociate the two should one of them flip. There is no reasoning behind it.

Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 17:34 MLuneth wrote:
EBWOP Forgot to add TheRavensName to above list of people that have done little

Coin said
##Vote: Arctic Daishi


This scummy vote
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 16:29 MLuneth wrote:
##Vote: nobodywonder

This vote is basically the result suspiciously targeting lurkers but more importantly the lack of an acceptable coherent defence.

Rainbow, it strikes me as odd that while you have accused/pressured people to find out their position on certain matters but your position is not clear. In what circumstances would you lynch a lurker?


Blatantly sheeps the NW vote, and keeps it there the entire game. And for what reason? Suspiciously targeting lurkers... OH WAIT, hypocrisy! Wasn't that exactly what MLuneth was doing? In addition, ML is picking on someone that hasn't defended themselves explicitly. Scum want to hit the easiest target, and someone who provided an "acceptable coherent defence" is just that.

Look at this vote again. Notice how he asks ME a question. Why me? Why not, you know, the guy you are voting for and want to lynch? Town mentality = zero. The vote is a blatant sheep with little-to-no reason and is used as a catalyst (somehow) to ask me a question. The vote is more about me than it is about NW.

Lynch this guy.

Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 07:48 MLuneth wrote:
My vote in NW stays the same because there has still been no coherent defence to tell me why NW is not scum.

I agree that other players are looking very suspicious too but I'm more confident that NW is scum than they are


^ There's that "no defence" statement again. ML hasn't attempted (even badly) to scumhunt at all to find a better candidate than NW.

@MLuneth

Respond to this. Do things. Stop playing the noob card all game and perform.



Why this screams scum


Takes points out of context to imply guilt "+ Show Spoiler +

A weak distancing attempt


Basically coinflip votes Arctic Daishi, which seems oddly enough like an attempt to disassociate the two should one of them flip. There is no reasoning behind it.
" Also "+ Show Spoiler +
This scummy vote
On March 08 2013 16:29 MLuneth wrote:
##Vote: nobodywonder

This vote is basically the result suspiciously targeting lurkers but more importantly the lack of an acceptable coherent defence.

Rainbow, it strikes me as odd that while you have accused/pressured people to find out their position on certain matters but your position is not clear. In what circumstances would you lynch a lurker?


Blatantly sheeps the NW vote, and keeps it there the entire game. And for what reason? Suspiciously targeting lurkers... OH WAIT, hypocrisy! Wasn't that exactly what MLuneth was doing? In addition, ML is picking on someone that hasn't defended themselves explicitly. Scum want to hit the easiest target, and someone who provided an "acceptable coherent defence" is just that.
[/b]" in that he neglects (he is aware that I have had suspicions about NW before) to mention that I have had suspicions about NW previously

This miscontextualisation is not by accident as he very clearly neglects to mention things that I have said that disagree with his argument.

Rainbows seems to think he's above questioning
+ Show Spoiler +
Look at this vote again. Notice how he asks ME a question. Why me? Why not, you know, the guy you are voting for and want to lynch? Town mentality = zero. The vote is a blatant sheep with little-to-no reason and is used as a catalyst (somehow) to ask me a question. The vote is more about me than it is about NW.

No, I asked you a question because I suspected that you were scum. Answering the question "should" be easy if you are town. Avoiding the question and saying that the post was aimed at you rather than the person I ended up voting for is incredibly scummy and another example of you ignore other evidence over stuff that helps your argument

This is clearly scum orientated behaviour and therefore
TL:DR : read the post, Rainbows is scum

##Vote: Rainbows
Innovation is a PatchTerran
MLuneth
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia557 Posts
March 11 2013 10:10 GMT
#965
On March 11 2013 18:44 Krafla wrote:
Good morning all, sorry I've been MASSIVELY INACTIVE again.

So it looks like the vote at the moment is between MLuneth or MeatlessTaco.

I was initially suspicious of MeatlessTaco due to his aggressive nature, but early on I decided against a vote for him because he'd contributed more than nobodywonder. Now by the time night one rolled around I'd been convinced by reading through the thread that a check on MLuneth would provide a better return than a check on Meatless.

It turns out it didn't matter who I made a check on because I got roleblocked. Now (Warning speculation) assuming I was RB'd by the scum and not by the town, who do you think the Mafia would've seen as my most likely target?

Especially over the night there was a lot of speculation towards MLuneth, which is what persuaded me to use my check on MLuneth. Now if I picked MLuneth as the person most warranting a check, what are the chances that the mob second guessed me and blocked me?

For the moment I'm going to

##Vote: MLuneth

primarily because even though he was active at the time he didn't switch his vote when near the end of Day 1 whilst town was coming to the consensus that a vote on AD was better.



Just saw Krafla's post.
I will not vote with town when I think there is someone more likely to be maf.

Furthermore, consider the possibilities of the last lynch
1. NW gets most votes, gets lynched
2. Tie, NW gets lynched
3. AD gets most votes gets lynched

Either the person who I think is most likely to be scum is lynched or the person who the "town consensus" gets lynched.

CONCLUSION
Both look scummy, I voted for the one who (imo) looked more scummy

If such a vote happened where of the two major candidates one looked scummy while the other didn't and my vote was on a third person, I'm going to switch to who I think looks the scummiest and has a chance of being lynched.

Hope this clears stuff up
Innovation is a PatchTerran
nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
March 11 2013 10:21 GMT
#966
Well good to hear from you, MLuneth... Well first of all, I dislike your formatting, for all your talk about Rainbows putting your arguments out of context, your usage of spoilers and lack of quotes is very disorienting, and confusing. I'm uncertain who is talking when and what. I think this could be a case of extreme cherry-picking of quotes.

Well good to hear from you too, Krafla. Gl with checks I guess... I don't know what to say about mafia intentions to block you and stuff. I may comment on that later after rereading this "case" from MLuneth.
i want nobody nobody but you! *clap* *clap*- wonder girls
MLuneth
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia557 Posts
March 11 2013 10:26 GMT
#967
Not good with spoilers etc, all my quotes were from the one post, so I didn't cherry pick.
Innovation is a PatchTerran
nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
March 11 2013 10:39 GMT
#968
Well, your case on Rainbow, I think is rather weak. One reason you claim Rainbow is scum is because he is above questions such as yours. I reread your filter and Rainbow's yet I can't find your question. Care to clarify and quote it for me? For all I know the question might not even be there or irrelevant.
i want nobody nobody but you! *clap* *clap*- wonder girls
MLuneth
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia557 Posts
March 11 2013 10:40 GMT
#969
Going to bed now, will rewrite post if more people struggle with it.
Will also write summaries on who I think is scum.
Innovation is a PatchTerran
MLuneth
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia557 Posts
March 11 2013 10:43 GMT
#970
On March 11 2013 19:39 nobodywonder wrote:
Well, your case on Rainbow, I think is rather weak. One reason you claim Rainbow is scum is because he is above questions such as yours. I reread your filter and Rainbow's yet I can't find your question. Care to clarify and quote it for me? For all I know the question might not even be there or irrelevant.


"Rainbow, it strikes me as odd that while you have accused/pressured people to find out their position on certain matters but your position is not clear. In what circumstances would you lynch a lurker?" Was the question, but it's more the point that he's above answering it as shown by "Look at this vote again. Notice how he asks ME a question. Why me? Why not, you know, the guy you are voting for and want to lynch? Town mentality = zero. The vote is a blatant sheep with little-to-no reason and is used as a catalyst (somehow) to ask me a question. The vote is more about me than it is about NW."
Innovation is a PatchTerran
MLuneth
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia557 Posts
March 11 2013 10:45 GMT
#971
Question: "Rainbow, it strikes me as odd that while you have accused/pressured people to find out their position on certain matters but your position is not clear. In what circumstances would you lynch a lurker?"

More important that he was above said question as shown by:

"Look at this vote again. Notice how he asks ME a question. Why me? Why not, you know, the guy you are voting for and want to lynch? Town mentality = zero. The vote is a blatant sheep with little-to-no reason and is used as a catalyst (somehow) to ask me a question. The vote is more about me than it is about NW."
Innovation is a PatchTerran
nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
March 11 2013 10:45 GMT
#972
Dang it, I think I'm a lil' crazy, still on TL at 4 in the morning, ahhh it would have been nice if you can reply to at least the question thing before you sleep.
i want nobody nobody but you! *clap* *clap*- wonder girls
MLuneth
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia557 Posts
March 11 2013 10:51 GMT
#973
I did unless I misunderstood what you want
Innovation is a PatchTerran
nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
March 11 2013 10:58 GMT
#974
Oh okay so it's this exchange on pg23...This is what I really wanted. I didnt see Rainbow's response, only your interpretation of whatever god knows what he said.

On March 09 2013 01:06 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 16:29 MLuneth wrote:
##Vote: nobodywonder

This vote is basically the result suspiciously targeting lurkers but more importantly the lack of an acceptable coherent defence.

Rainbow, it strikes me as odd that while you have accused/pressured people to find out their position on certain matters but your position is not clear. In what circumstances would you lynch a lurker?


A useless question. Policy is pointless, and the fact that we (you) are still talking about it is also pointless.


i want nobody nobody but you! *clap* *clap*- wonder girls
MLuneth
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia557 Posts
March 11 2013 11:01 GMT
#975
Still neglected to answer -___-
Innovation is a PatchTerran
MLuneth
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia557 Posts
March 11 2013 11:03 GMT
#976
I wanted to know where he stood because he just voted different people all over the place, without being held at all accountable for doing so.
Innovation is a PatchTerran
nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
March 11 2013 11:09 GMT
#977
oh god i cant do shit, oh it was part of here...ahhh $#^* it

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 10 2013 13:56 Rainbows wrote:
Hey guys, sorry I've pretty much been a lurking piece of shit so far since mid day 1. Sorry, things to do, people to see, roomates to argue with.

I'm looking at the red lynch atm... MLuneth is looking like a prime candidate for todays lynch imo.

Opening Post
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 12:24 MLuneth wrote:
Flavour was certainly pretty sweet

I know it's my first game so I'm still learning but I don't think we should just lynch Krafla without reason, even if it would be fantastically ironic.
Your post Omni seems pretty reasonable and a good basis to work on ^_^


Completely buddies Omni, and acts all "pro town" by not wanting to lynch Krafla (which, was obviously a troll vote).

MLuneth joke votes me, but someone calls him out on it, and get's really paranoid.

Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 12:55 MLuneth wrote:
Last post was a joke, if that wasn't clear


Why would town need to verify their obvious joke post was a joke? Nervous scum.

A weak distancing attempt


Basically coinflip votes Arctic Daishi, which seems oddly enough like an attempt to disassociate the two should one of them flip. There is no reasoning behind it.

Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 17:34 MLuneth wrote:
EBWOP Forgot to add TheRavensName to above list of people that have done little

Coin said
##Vote: Arctic Daishi


This scummy vote
On March 08 2013 16:29 MLuneth wrote:
##Vote: nobodywonder

This vote is basically the result suspiciously targeting lurkers but more importantly the lack of an acceptable coherent defence.

Rainbow, it strikes me as odd that while you have accused/pressured people to find out their position on certain matters but your position is not clear. In what circumstances would you lynch a lurker?


Blatantly sheeps the NW vote, and keeps it there the entire game. And for what reason? Suspiciously targeting lurkers... OH WAIT, hypocrisy! Wasn't that exactly what MLuneth was doing? In addition, ML is picking on someone that hasn't defended themselves explicitly. Scum want to hit the easiest target, and someone who provided an "acceptable coherent defence" is just that.

Look at this vote again. Notice how he asks ME a question. Why me? Why not, you know, the guy you are voting for and want to lynch? Town mentality = zero. The vote is a blatant sheep with little-to-no reason and is used as a catalyst (somehow) to ask me a question. The vote is more about me than it is about NW.


Lynch this guy.

Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 07:48 MLuneth wrote:
My vote in NW stays the same because there has still been no coherent defence to tell me why NW is not scum.

I agree that other players are looking very suspicious too but I'm more confident that NW is scum than they are


^ There's that "no defence" statement again. ML hasn't attempted (even badly) to scumhunt at all to find a better candidate than NW.

@MLuneth

Respond to this. Do things. Stop playing the noob card all game and perform.

i want nobody nobody but you! *clap* *clap*- wonder girls
nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
March 11 2013 11:15 GMT
#978
Honestly, now we're more or less alone, I need a great favor - tell me honestly about your suspicions about NW. You seemed to have the bravery and determination to keep your vote on him even as the town switched to Arctic/Taco.

I have wanted to lynch this mofo for the longest time too and I need the evidence to nail him.
i want nobody nobody but you! *clap* *clap*- wonder girls
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 11 2013 11:26 GMT
#979
Well, looks like were devolving into Chaos... yay.

Come on Rainbows, what did I just say last page? I really really really want to try and bury the idea that your scum in my mind, but your not acting like the rainbows from the first day, you just come in and randomly post random people that need to die and its really starting to bug me. You've made one case, and I think it is a weak one at best and yo u have a 2 page filter with mostly useless gunk or responses. You either need to stop lurking, or your my day 3 canidate at this rate. Hell you might take Day 2 away from Taco Or Luneth, cause god do I hate all three of you right now. Like, you have no idea the migrain I'm getting as I read whats been posted sense last night. Why man? Why are you lurking so hard and only jumping on the Luneth case and making no real analysis of anything else. What are your thoughts on Taco? You've called some of the cases comparing similar actions to the two that Taco is often times more scummy then Luneth with how hes acting.Why is Omni so pro town like you say? Welcome to Mafia, where the only confirmed towns already flipped.

Luneth, my reasons for hating you haven't changed sense last time, like I'm almost certain your going to die I just don't think your less hurtful then the single active scum player I know we have to have somewhere in this thread. TAco, you get the same response.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
March 11 2013 11:32 GMT
#980
EBWOP: I meant for Taco that my thoughts on him haven't changed. Not that I think hes the third unactive scum player and I wanna catch someone else.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
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