EPTEither way, it's what mafia COULD have done, in short, WIFOM. He's my second target right now, and I'd still prefer a ML lynch.
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Rainbows
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Either way, it's what mafia COULD have done, in short, WIFOM. He's my second target right now, and I'd still prefer a ML lynch. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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I read through it but have to read more closely to get a good idea of where we stand. Some quick off-the-cuff thoughts: Krafla - Either very devious mafia (getting some serious coaching/help or something) or super newbie. I'm leaning towards the second. Krafla you were not roleblocked by town, we don't have a roleblocker, only JK who blocked me. MeatlessTaco - I'm still not set on changing my vote to him as he hasn't come back since the beginning of the day. Without more information I'm going to do a read of Luneth's recent (HORRIBLY FORMATTED) defenses. MLuneth - Reading now. Don't think his case against Rainbows stands. | ||
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TheRavensName
United States911 Posts
On March 12 2013 04:13 Rainbows wrote: I don't think that's evidence at all to lynch Taco. Mafia could have just as easily ganged up on NW (like they probably were, anyway). Either way, it's what mafia COULD have done, in short, WIFOM. He's my second target right now, and I'd still prefer a ML lynch. Well I'm going to put it like this. If Meatless and NW were both innocnet, the Mafia could have jumped on Meatless and then risked it either way cause we couldnt get arctic if Omni Frorgon didn't move. Even if they were both mafia, they could have just called Arctic a dumb random lynch and hoped we either let NW die or jumped on Meatless, either way they win because we couldn't have gotten arctic if they didn't swap. But if NW, Arctic, and Meatless are all Mafia... then it was a bad play for meatless to bus NW before Arctic even showed up sense it could have cost him pretty bad if NW got lynched cause of it and Arctic got mod killed without a replacement, sense our replacement went onto chew,. And even then, Meatless should still be hunged today for being mafia. Mluneth makes sense as a 3rd mafia person, but hes not the same threat as meatless is if hes mafia. Yes its WIFOM, but it is more of a reason then we got for Luneth. Luneth just seems only to be getting a lynch for being a lurker when there are other lurking canidates. | ||
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TheRavensName
United States911 Posts
On March 12 2013 04:35 WaveofShadow wrote: Damn you all, the thread explodes after I leave for a while? I read through it but have to read more closely to get a good idea of where we stand. Some quick off-the-cuff thoughts: Krafla - Either very devious mafia (getting some serious coaching/help or something) or super newbie. I'm leaning towards the second. Krafla you were not roleblocked by town, we don't have a roleblocker, only JK who blocked me. MeatlessTaco - I'm still not set on changing my vote to him as he hasn't come back since the beginning of the day. Without more information I'm going to do a read of Luneth's recent (HORRIBLY FORMATTED) defenses. MLuneth - Reading now. Don't think his case against Rainbows stands. Mafia does have one though, or at least its not out of the question they do. | ||
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Rainbows
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On March 12 2013 04:41 TheRavensName wrote: Mafia does have one though, or at least its not out of the question they do. Yes. I know. | ||
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TheRavensName
United States911 Posts
On March 12 2013 04:44 Rainbows wrote: But I want my random vote D1 to be correct T.T The big issue I have with lynching Luneth is that he was the first person to vote on Arctic. Granted it was only a pressure vote but... why would you pressure vote someone you know for a fact isn't there if you have a QT they hadn't showed up in yet and then say your just doing a random lurker pressure? He could have hit chew or someone else first. Seems a touch early for a bus, but I'm not ruling it out as a possibility... just I think its a less likely possibility. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On March 12 2013 04:58 TheRavensName wrote: The big issue I have with lynching Luneth is that he was the first person to vote on Arctic. Granted it was only a pressure vote but... why would you pressure vote someone you know for a fact isn't there if you have a QT they hadn't showed up in yet and then say your just doing a random lurker pressure? He could have hit chew or someone else first. Seems a touch early for a bus, but I'm not ruling it out as a possibility... just I think its a less likely possibility. Because it's fairly obvious he could be lying. If you'll remember we had a few other people do the exact same thing, Taco's vote on Cos/Geript being one of them. 'Voting pressure' on lurkers who are barely in the thread is barely pressure at all, and is a scummy way of making your vote LOOK like it matters where it is. I learned this in my first NMM game. | ||
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TheRavensName
United States911 Posts
On March 12 2013 05:04 WaveofShadow wrote: Because it's fairly obvious he could be lying. If you'll remember we had a few other people do the exact same thing, Taco's vote on Cos/Geript being one of them. 'Voting pressure' on lurkers who are barely in the thread is barely pressure at all, and is a scummy way of making your vote LOOK like it matters where it is. I learned this in my first NMM game. I understand that. Thats why I want more information before I make myself go after Luneth... and I'm not saying anything until after the flip. | ||
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MeatlessTaco
United States302 Posts
I pushed for votes. People said votes don't mean anything. What got scum killed on day 1? I don't think MLuneth has a huge chance of being scum right now. So I'm not going to instant vote yet. | ||
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geript
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WaveofShadow
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On March 11 2013 18:39 MLuneth wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 10 2013 13:56 Rainbows wrote: Hey guys, sorry I've pretty much been a lurking piece of shit so far since mid day 1. Sorry, things to do, people to see, roomates to argue with. I'm looking at the red lynch atm... MLuneth is looking like a prime candidate for todays lynch imo. Opening Post Completely buddies Omni, and acts all "pro town" by not wanting to lynch Krafla (which, was obviously a troll vote). MLuneth joke votes me, but someone calls him out on it, and get's really paranoid. Why would town need to verify their obvious joke post was a joke? Nervous scum. A weak distancing attempt Basically coinflip votes Arctic Daishi, which seems oddly enough like an attempt to disassociate the two should one of them flip. There is no reasoning behind it. This scummy vote Blatantly sheeps the NW vote, and keeps it there the entire game. And for what reason? Suspiciously targeting lurkers... OH WAIT, hypocrisy! Wasn't that exactly what MLuneth was doing? In addition, ML is picking on someone that hasn't defended themselves explicitly. Scum want to hit the easiest target, and someone who provided an "acceptable coherent defence" is just that. Look at this vote again. Notice how he asks ME a question. Why me? Why not, you know, the guy you are voting for and want to lynch? Town mentality = zero. The vote is a blatant sheep with little-to-no reason and is used as a catalyst (somehow) to ask me a question. The vote is more about me than it is about NW. Lynch this guy. ^ There's that "no defence" statement again. ML hasn't attempted (even badly) to scumhunt at all to find a better candidate than NW. @MLuneth Respond to this. Do things. Stop playing the noob card all game and perform. Responding to said things. Opening Post + Show Spoiler + On March 07 2013 12:24 MLuneth wrote: Flavour was certainly pretty sweet  I know it's my first game so I'm still learning but I don't think we should just lynch Krafla without reason, even if it would be fantastically ironic. Your post Omni seems pretty reasonable and a good basis to work on ^_^ Completely buddies Omni, and acts all "pro town" by not wanting to lynch Krafla (which, was obviously a troll vote). I think you're reading into it a bit too much here, sounds like you've already decided that I'm maf -__- MLuneth joke votes me, but someone calls him out on it, and get's really paranoid. + Show Spoiler + On March 07 2013 12:55 MLuneth wrote: Last post was a joke, if that wasn't clear Why would town need to verify their obvious joke post was a joke? Nervous scum. Town can get lynched too. Nervous town doesn't want to get lynched D1 for a misunderstanding on a joke post. A weak distancing attempt + Show Spoiler + Basically coinflip votes Arctic Daishi, which seems oddly enough like an attempt to disassociate the two should one of them flip. There is no reasoning behind it. On March 07 2013 17:34 MLuneth wrote: EBWOP Forgot to add TheRavensName to above list of people that have done little It really pisses me off that you seem to think that there is no reasoning behind this after I have explained that this was a pressure vote to get Daishi to stop lurking. Either that or you're just straight up lying. This scummy vote I would like to point out a previous post before I address this: This post at the very least shows that I was considering NW before I "sheeped" on that vote. I did "sheep" on that vote simply because there was a strong case against NW that I had already previously been considering. I have already addressed my "targeting" of lurkers. I want to attack what is (imo) the most likely person to be maf. If I have to sheep to do that, fine I will sheep. I'm not sure if . is a spelling mistake, but someone who provides a clear coherent defence is not an easy target bro. This.... "Thing" + Show Spoiler + ]Look at this vote again. Notice how he asks ME a question. Why me? Why not, you know, the guy you are voting for and want to lynch? Town mentality = zero. The vote is a blatant sheep with little-to-no reason and is used as a catalyst (somehow) to ask me a question. The vote is more about me than it is about NW. Read my posts which clearly show my reasoning before you make idiotic statements like this. Why not NW? I've already asked him questions and was waiting for a response. OMGUS? Next post will show how Rainbows post on me was incredibly scummy is OMGUS but points will be valid Alright gonna get into this clusterfuck of a post. Luneth, Rainbows is right. Nervous/paranoid townie doesn't look like townie at all. Your 'pressure vote?' I've already explained. Useless against someone who you have professed to not be around at all. Looks scummy. As for the rest of this post I can't for the life of me get through the formatting so I'll ignore that part of Rainbows' case on you for now. Something about how it's OMGUS because he voted for you and now you're voting for him? I don't get it. Whatever. On March 11 2013 19:10 MLuneth wrote: Just saw Krafla's post. I will not vote with town when I think there is someone more likely to be maf. Furthermore, consider the possibilities of the last lynch 1. NW gets most votes, gets lynched 2. Tie, NW gets lynched 3. AD gets most votes gets lynched Either the person who I think is most likely to be scum is lynched or the person who the "town consensus" gets lynched. CONCLUSION Both look scummy, I voted for the one who (imo) looked more scummy If such a vote happened where of the two major candidates one looked scummy while the other didn't and my vote was on a third person, I'm going to switch to who I think looks the scummiest and has a chance of being lynched. Hope this clears stuff up THIS post, however just looks awful for you Luneth. You're basically completely remorseless about throwing your vote away D1, and now you're prepared to do it again just because you claim to be 'voting for the person you believe to be scum.' You realize that by spreading out the votes it makes it more easy for scum to hide in useless votes so they won't be seen as guilty during a mislynch, right? As for your talk of NW being scum, he's not, and didn't look scummy at all since his return D1. You also completely contradict yourself in your 'conclusion,' saying you're not going to vote with the twon, and then you say you'll switch your vote if you're on a third person and you find someone scummy. Why didn't you switch your vote to either Daishi or Taco then? Are you saying neither of the two looked scummy to you, despite the fact that AD WAS scum? This is just awful, transparent scum play from you Luneth. My vote stands. | ||
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MeatlessTaco
United States302 Posts
On March 12 2013 05:23 geript wrote: So who is scum then? You, Rainbows and a lurker. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On March 12 2013 05:20 MeatlessTaco wrote: My defense: I pushed for votes. People said votes don't mean anything. What got scum killed on day 1? I don't think MLuneth has a huge chance of being scum right now. So I'm not going to instant vote yet. Oh lord is this scummy. Voting against people who aren't there is useless, especially at the beginning of a day when people like YOU can lurk all day and not be threatened until the lynch is about to happen. (PS. I'm pointing out that your return to thread right now is scummy.) Voting itself isn't useless, the way YOU did it is. This 'triumphant return' to the thread had better be more than your 2 line post considering you're on the block right now. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
We've already lynched one scum. We only have two more. Impossible. Just throwing random suspicions out there with no backup to them? Scummy as all hell. I think we may have our game gentlemen, Luneth and Taco both going down. | ||
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MeatlessTaco
United States302 Posts
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geript
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Ok, I'm listening, why me and Rainbow? Be honest... is it because I didn't give him a nutter butter? | ||
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TheRavensName
United States911 Posts
On March 12 2013 05:32 MeatlessTaco wrote: Did we ever figure out why there was no night kill? Cause you left your house with an empty gun. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On March 12 2013 05:36 TheRavensName wrote: Cause you left your house with an empty gun. Reverse Misogyny -- Trying to say he's shooting blanks. That's just not nice. | ||
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Rainbows
Germany1217 Posts
Nutter Butter team completely destroyed by taco. | ||
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