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On March 10 2013 09:36 OmniEulogy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 09:34 Krafla wrote:
Aahh, be quick, it's way past my bedtime! it's only what.. 2:30am there?  it's unfortunate if you are telling the truth and got RB'd  knowing Luneth's alignment on top of no NK would have been really nice.
I'ts 12:30 here. The reason I didn't post last night was because I was out at a beer festival, I didn't want to post drunk and figured the best way to avoid a lynch was to keep quiet.
I wanted to avoid the lynch so I could help the town by using my cop ability. Now with hindsight, because I probably wasn't in much danger to get shot tonight, I probably should've waited till tomorrow night to use my ability. The main reason I used it tonight was to try and give us the best information possible, as soon as possible.
My initial thoughts concerning WoS' RB is that he was saved from getting shot tonight. If we follow this line of thought through, I'm sure we can make a few educated guesses as to why WoS was targetted.
The other thing I'm going to think about is why was I role blocked? I'm guessing the mob RB'd me (because we've already established that I likely wasn't a high priority target for the mob to target) however there must've been enough suspicions that I had a blue role. Were my actions on Day 1 indicative of a blue? If you want to go back and read my filter I'm sure you'll notice that I wasn't quick to point fingers and I tried to stay out of a lot of argument. This was mainly because I didn't want to draw attention to myself and let the town lose my ability.
It's now nearly 1, I've spent most of the day hungover and the better half is calling me to bed, so I'll catch you all tomorrow! Sorry to run away like this, but I think on the whole this has gotta be good news for the town, we've still got a full compliment and the mob is down by one. We're definitely winning at the moment!
Now that I don't have anything to hide or be careful of you can expect a bit more activity from me in the future.
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On March 10 2013 09:49 OmniEulogy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 09:46 geript wrote:On March 10 2013 09:42 OmniEulogy wrote:On March 10 2013 09:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
Damn. I think it's too much WIFOM to know for sure.
I was roleblocked as well.
Simple case scenario is JK saved me from a night shot and mafia RB chose Krafla at random. There are a LOT of other possible scenarios though, none of which I like very much. On the other hand, if town role blocker hit WoS (if we even have one), tell us now. It's unlikely but its better to have the bases covered. That's a bad idea and super scummy. If we have one, why try to get them to claim for no reason? Proves WoS is scum. Are you that stupid?
I really don't like how your trying to make our blue roles reveal themselves, and I think that is what he is referring to.
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There are a lot of problems I see here so I'm just going to voice them. Note: Unless proven otherwise, I am still going to assume the simple case scenario though.
WARNING: WIFOM
+ Show Spoiler +It's possible that Krafla is lying and mafia didn't shoot to try and give him town cred. Unlikely but possible. The other thing I find suspicious is OE's 'JK list' earlier. He suggests me, Raven and Geript as NK targets when realistically I am probably prime target after D1 in terms of danger to scumteam. He makes it extremely obvious but then why would scum go for the most obvious target for a JK save when it would be incredibly easy to just hit one of the slightly less active (but not lurky) townies who would essentially be a sure kill? Again, fair amount of WIFOM here but that strikes me as bad scum play (which of course might be possible given AD's first day). If the simplest case scenario is proven true we are dealing with a not-so-devious scumteam and they're playing a very straight game which should make it easy for us.
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On March 10 2013 09:47 MeatlessTaco wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 09:45 geript wrote:
Here's the option I like the most:
## vote omnieulogy
You're interested in finding out Luneth's alignment and doesn't change a thing. I'll explain more in detail late tonight but here's a summary:
Soft defenses of Artic
Nothing but mudslinging
Further suspicions without trying to actually pressure
Overall no interest in pressuring players
Interest in wasting time discussing worthless matters
Presenting 2 bad cases without follow up If OE is scum, he deserves to live a couple more days. What? That makes no sense. I'm not entirely sure about him either, although I am still suspicious of his Arctic defense, but if he or anyone else is our clearest scum option he needs to go. Krafla still needs to explain himself a little more, but most of all we need to hear more from Matriarch. Yes, I know she may have more important things to do, but either she needs to start contributing, find a replacement, or became Arctic part 2.
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On March 10 2013 09:49 OmniEulogy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 09:46 geript wrote:On March 10 2013 09:42 OmniEulogy wrote:On March 10 2013 09:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
Damn. I think it's too much WIFOM to know for sure.
I was roleblocked as well.
Simple case scenario is JK saved me from a night shot and mafia RB chose Krafla at random. There are a LOT of other possible scenarios though, none of which I like very much. On the other hand, if town role blocker hit WoS (if we even have one), tell us now. It's unlikely but its better to have the bases covered. That's a bad idea and super scummy. If we have one, why try to get them to claim for no reason? Proves WoS is scum. Are you that stupid?
No as I said, it proves nothing. If WoS was JK blocked then he could've been either the attacker or the target. A claim proves nothing but the RB happened. If the JK blocked Krafla the we still no nothing as WoS could be lying OR he could be town RB'd by scum. You are both wrong and scum.
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On March 10 2013 09:47 OmniEulogy wrote:
@Krafla did you leave any bread crumbs to prove that you are 1 shot cop or that you were targetting Luneth tonight?
I did not breadcrumb, I didn't want to risk mafia finding it and I wasn't confident enough in my ability to hide something without it being obvious.
Good night!
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On March 10 2013 09:53 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 09:49 OmniEulogy wrote:On March 10 2013 09:46 geript wrote:On March 10 2013 09:42 OmniEulogy wrote:On March 10 2013 09:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
Damn. I think it's too much WIFOM to know for sure.
I was roleblocked as well.
Simple case scenario is JK saved me from a night shot and mafia RB chose Krafla at random. There are a LOT of other possible scenarios though, none of which I like very much. On the other hand, if town role blocker hit WoS (if we even have one), tell us now. It's unlikely but its better to have the bases covered. That's a bad idea and super scummy. If we have one, why try to get them to claim for no reason? Proves WoS is scum. Are you that stupid? No as I said, it proves nothing. If WoS was JK blocked then he could've been either the attacker or the target. A claim proves nothing but the RB happened. If the JK blocked Krafla the we still no nothing as WoS could be lying OR he could be town RB'd by scum. You are both wrong and scum.
your logic is so bad its funny. We aren't talking about if town JK hit WoS. I said town RB. Not town JK. Reading Comprehension is a good skill to have Geript.
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@WoS one, don't wifom. 2. Raven was a much better target than you.
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Well Krafia did state a couple of times he had cases and had no intention of revealing them till after day 2 started. I suppose you could use this as semi eviddence or slight bread crumbing. Mafia could have easily picked up on this and blocked him.
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Geript I am interested in your case on OE, as I have not trusted him at all since D1. Going to re-read his filter.
Also I swear if we don't get some posting from
Matriarch
Rainbows
Luneth
soon, there will be hell to pay.
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There's no way to differentiate between JK and RB. Considering no NK and the WoS RB, JK is the obvious solution just as OO was 3p quite obviously in the last game. Even YOU say you trust WoS, why bother with asking RB to claim when JK is the obvious outcome. Also, congrats JK.
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On March 10 2013 09:55 geript wrote:
@WoS one, don't wifom. 2. Raven was a much better target than you.
I disagree, and apparently so did town JK.
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On March 10 2013 10:01 geript wrote:
There's no way to differentiate between JK and RB. Considering no NK and the WoS RB, JK is the obvious solution just as OO was 3p quite obviously in the last game. Even YOU say you trust WoS, why bother with asking RB to claim when JK is the obvious outcome. Also, congrats JK.
you just disproved yourself.................................................................................................. Do you even know what you are talking about anymore? Or ever?
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On March 10 2013 10:02 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 09:55 geript wrote:
@WoS one, don't wifom. 2. Raven was a much better target than you. I disagree, and apparently so did town JK.
Either way, you said you didn't like OE, what do I need to do to get you to move your vote on him?
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On March 10 2013 10:06 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 10:02 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 10 2013 09:55 geript wrote:
@WoS one, don't wifom. 2. Raven was a much better target than you. I disagree, and apparently so did town JK. Either way, you said you didn't like OE, what do I need to do to get you to move your vote on him?
real proof. which you won't find because I'm town. I know its hard for you to understand Geript. You should be used to being wrong at this point though.
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Stop talking about nutter butter?
I need to go eat right now but I'll have a closer look at his filter after. I don't want to discount the fact the Luneth is still really scummy (despite OE gunning for him) and the fuck-tons of lurk we have in this thread.
In the meantime I'd like to hear more from Taco, Frorgon and NW.
Are you guys around?
What do you think of Geript's case on OE?
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Fine, I will give you and the JK a nutter butter... Happy?
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On March 10 2013 10:09 WaveofShadow wrote:Stop talking about nutter butter? I need to go eat right now but I'll have a closer look at his filter after. I don't want to discount the fact the Luneth is still really scummy (despite OE gunning for him) and the fuck-tons of lurk we have in this thread. In the meantime I'd like to hear more from Taco, Frorgon and NW. Are you guys around? What do you think of Geript's case on OE?
sorry WoS his case? He hasn't made one. He's made a bunch of vague comments, some of which I've already addressed previously and then he's failed to provide any information to back himself up.
@Geript hurry up and make your case on me so I can smash it and we can move on with the game please. You are just a distraction at this point.
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Bullet points are effective for communicating. The case will arrive later tonight.
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I reread the whole thing up to end of day 1.
Here are my reads. I'll discuss exactly why I think someone not listed is town if they are under suspicion or anyone particularly cares.
I had 6 canidates, as I went through it I turned Frogron green.
Frogron:
pg 17&19: Wants suspicion off of lurkers. Suspecting NW but doesn't vote yet ( would have put 7 on NW at that point ), ends up voting for bduddy. Unless it's a NW, AD, Frog team, I don't see the logic here for scum. He tried to start a Taco bandwagon ( off of AD ) on page 27 and argues that lynching AD won't give information, which is suspect, but on page 28 won't jump on either MT or AD wagon and votes Chew. So, if Chew, me and AD are all scum that would make sense. Otherwise we shouldn't kill him anytime soon.
ChewOnStu or lurker
Here is his activity so far:
pg 17: lynch all lurkers can be scummy, it's too early to think about that
pg 18: pressuring lurkers is ok, but try not to mislynch
pg 19: votes for the NW bandwagon
Geript is useless. lynch at some point, maybe not today
Krafla
I'm posting this before I read the resolution of the claim and stuff, this is just off my notes:
pg 15: thinks discussion might be cover for scum votes?
pg 16: picks arctic's name out of a hat, which doesn't seem smart as scum
pg 19,20,23: Soft defends Arctic, is cautious about voting NW yet, votes bduddy over AD (AD hadn't posted yet), fos's me a couple times and then picks to vote for NW where it stays
A decent candidate for today, the claim thing will obviously have to come into consideration. The big thing is did he pick Arctic's name out of a hat as cover? His later posts seem him to be distancing himself from AD.
Mluneth
He wants a lurker lynch and picks quickly, he ends up voting for NW, but took no effort to get out of AD vote (pg 22)
OE and WoS brought this up earlier, but I read it differently when I went through it.
Suspicious though is that he was active later, and still leaves his vote on NW.
Rainbows
pg 18: says lurker discussion is pointless, calls MLuneth scum, calls omni list pointless, tries to shutdown discussion, defends Arctic
pg 22: votes chew and then I sheep him
pg 24: good read on OE post, but then suggests Chew and Frogron ( not AD )
Not much contribution except for starting the call-out on Chew
Matriarch
asks some noob questions and fingers me, so null read there
questions my post level when she has posted like twice, and then on pg 22 defends OE in NW vote, not helpful either way
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