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OmniEulogy
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WaveofShadow
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On March 09 2013 08:40 OmniEulogy wrote: WoS I understand where you are coming from under normal circumstances you don't want to explain yourself during the night, but I think regardless of Arctics flip Taco will be my prime suspect for D2. I say we have him give us everything he's got during N1 and see what happens. I wanted bduddy to see if he could come to the conclusions himself. It's not just that it's that explaining his reads could be seen as an attempt to try and muddle the voting this close to deadline. I understand where you and NW are coming from, but since he's our 2nd scum candidate right now I'm not sure we'd lose out either way if he DOES die N1. | ||
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MeatlessTaco
United States302 Posts
On March 09 2013 08:37 nobodywonder wrote: Taco, you still haven't answered my questions. You have replied with rhetorical questions that allows readers to guess what you think, but not really know what you think. I do care about your reads. Any town shouldn't be discouraged whether or not his read matters, he needs to voice his opinion, participate and care. and why do you say you want to post all your thoughts on day2? you can killed by mafia. this is seriously weird. The only 2 actives I could vote for, what does this mean? I cant follow you at all. So... Taco, again tell me: What is your stand? The likely day 2 lynch target will not be shot by mafia. If it does happen, it helps town. When I made my notes I put a green check mark when I thought someone was helpful. There are two active people who I would consider lynching over a lurker. But it is a moot point. From a game theory perspective, I don't see the point of too much discussion during the night because it gives mafia information to base their hit on. After the night hit town has more information and can begin serious discussion of what they want to do. I understand the lure of being cute with the "take a stand" thing. Don't take it personal, it was you who wanted the excitement anyway. | ||
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OmniEulogy
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WaveofShadow
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OmniEulogy
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WaveofShadow
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On March 09 2013 08:46 OmniEulogy wrote: I'm a DT! :D as in the unit.... 2k posts lol lol you fucker. grats | ||
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OmniEulogy
Canada6600 Posts
best way to end D1 LOL I'm gonna go make dinner and be back before the lynch. | ||
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bduddy
United States1326 Posts
On March 09 2013 08:37 WaveofShadow wrote: Because more information is better than less information? I'm not getting how waiting helps anything. We already have 32 pages, "muddling the vote" is not a concern of mine. If he has some analysis to make, he should make it now instead of going "I know but I'm not telling you, nah nah". It's not like there are any roles in this game where it's a good thing if the Haha conflicting opinions. Ok bduddy, explain why it's a good idea for Taco to explain to us his reads right now while we're all trying to consolidate our votes. Also explain why it would be a good idea for him to give us his reads before D2. | ||
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Frorgon
United States146 Posts
##Vote: Arctic Daishi I want to make sure we come to a consensus here. We can worry about Taco on D2. | ||
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MeatlessTaco
United States302 Posts
On March 09 2013 08:49 bduddy wrote: Because more information is better than less information? I'm not getting how waiting helps anything. We already have 32 pages, "muddling the vote" is not a concern of mine. If he has some analysis to make, he should make it now instead of going "I know but I'm not telling you, nah nah". It's not like there are any roles in this game where it's a good thing if the "I know but I'm not telling you, nah nah" I don't know anything more than anyone else that has read the thread. And I don't know where I implied that. Game-theory like: you don't give your opponent information while it is their turn to act. I thought that would be an obvious logical conclusion. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On March 09 2013 08:52 MeatlessTaco wrote: "I know but I'm not telling you, nah nah" I don't know anything more than anyone else that has read the thread. And I don't know where I implied that. Game-theory like: you don't give your opponent information while it is their turn to act. I thought that would be an obvious logical conclusion. He was referring to my attempt to bait an explanation out of him. | ||
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MeatlessTaco
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bduddy
United States1326 Posts
On March 09 2013 08:52 MeatlessTaco wrote: Do you really not see how those two lines are not a massive contradiction? Unless you're scum, you don't have any secret information that everyone else in the game doesn't already have. Whatever reads and analysis you have are valuable to us, either as arguments in their own right or as information about you. If you refuse to give the town that, that's not exactly pro-town behavior.I don't know anything more than anyone else that has read the thread. And I don't know where I implied that. Game-theory like: you don't give your opponent information while it is their turn to act. I thought that would be an obvious logical conclusion. Having said that, I'll repeat why I'm still voting for Arctic: he seems as scummy as anyone else to me right now, and even if he is town he's looking completely useless to us, so I see no reason to keep him around. | ||
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bduddy
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Arctic Daishi
United States152 Posts
On March 09 2013 06:40 Frorgon wrote: @ArcticDaishi There is no shame in questioning someone's logic, in this case Omni. This will hopefully lead to better analysis in the future. I don't see how this would be an attempt to stop his investigation. I don't consider my behavior towards him to have been hostile, especially since I noted how I liked a lot of the recent analysis he had made. Meanwhile, you ignore my questions towards you completely and instead try to turn the discussion onto me. I'd still like to hear your response to my question of why you loved Omni's initial read on me so much. Oh absolutely, there is no shame at all in questioning someone's logic. You were saying that he talked to himself too much, drawing him away from investigating other players (not you, but possibly allies?). I still think it's much too early in the game to truly decide on whether or not someone is scummy, but we must gain information somehow. I must also admit that Omni's threaten to lynch me if I didn't vote for you played a role in it. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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Mocsta
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Krafla (0): MLuneth (0): nobodywonder (4): bduddy (0): Arctic Daishi (6): ChewOnStu (0): TheRavensName (0): Frorgon (2): MeatlessTaco (1): No vote: Arctic Daishi is currently set to be lynched. 1 hours until the deadline. Voting is mandatory. Please remember to bold your votes, and to unvote if you've previously voted for someone else. | ||
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Arctic Daishi
United States152 Posts
On March 09 2013 06:45 nobodywonder wrote: I'd like Chew, Matriarch, MLuneth, Krafla to respond. They haven't said anything since their votes. Otherwise town gets no info from my lynch. I second Omni's post about Arctic. I have to say you won't get any information from an Arctic lynch. On this basis, Frogron, you should change your vote on bduddy. for all your talk about contributions and your contributions in comparison to other posters such as bduddy and Arctic, you really need to make a stand Oh wow, it would seem I have been proposed for lynching already. If you don't mind me asking, what makes me so suspicious? Other than being rather annoying and noobish? | ||
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OmniEulogy
Canada6600 Posts
On March 09 2013 09:06 Arctic Daishi wrote: Oh wow, it would seem I have been proposed for lynching already. If you don't mind me asking, what makes me so suspicious? Other than being rather annoying and noobish? lurking, and lack of contribution. Scummiest lurker gets the lynch. | ||
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