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ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 04 2013 22:12 GMT
#3423
I'll hear your case on WOS. Take your time.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 06 2013 06:03 GMT
#3630
On March 04 2013 18:13 ObviousOne wrote:
@JJ what is it about Grush's filter that makes you think he could be scum? WF asked you earlier and you simply said "his filter." You seem to have forgotten about that request given all your night action speculation. "His filter" is not an acceptable answer.

Sup, JJ? Still would like to hear why this was the case.

You voting Vivax again tomorrow? If not Vivax, who and why?


On March 06 2013 10:35 TestSubject893 wrote:
Jeez, I don't understand what was going through geript's head to act the way he did. I guess its not worth while to dwell on it right now though.

I feel like things got a lot more wide open with neither Hassy or geript flipping scum. (We've had relatively easy decisions on the lynches up until now.)

I think looking more closely at randombum could be a good move from here. I'll reexamine him.

Just holding you to this, I originally thought he looked invested and involved town-style but my mind is changing on that.


On March 06 2013 06:50 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 06:47 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On March 06 2013 06:40 Aquanim wrote:
On March 06 2013 06:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
If I had to guess based on my gut who that would be it would be WoS or BlazingHand.

You think scum BH would have hard-bussed Chezinu day 2 like he did, reducing scum KP to ONE?
0.o

0.o

0.o

It's something I would do


If geript flips town we should definitely think about lynching WF

I'm listening. One thing striking me about WF is how fast and accurate his scumdar was working. He's been relatively quiet recently except to participate in the Geript fiasco.


On March 04 2013 20:56 Wade Fell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 20:50 MilkSuckler wrote:
I tell you, if aqua and wade fell are scum.. well fucking done.

The constant mentor / student association happening here reads with some conviction.

Wade
Considering Geript refuses to vote for Aquanim (even when Aquanim is under heat) & Aquanim has required coaching (from you ) to agree on each lynch... What are your current thoughts on a Aquanim as the next Day lynch?



When Geript flips scum, my suspicion of Aquanim shoots up greatly. It has been noted that on the toad lynch my efforts to convince him were not in fact very convincing to others-- though I certainly found them convincing. His odd words about lynching for information during D2 are also troubling, as well as his slowness to vote Chez (though he did verbally commit to such a vote early in the day). I have a couple other candidates on my radar as well, as much as they can *be* on a radar-- hassybaby and ObviousOne


Geript was town, but he basically begged to be lynched. Hassy was town and an easy target... You can see where I'm heading with this...

You still wanna kill me now that Hassy has flipped town, WF? Is Aqua cleared of suspicion? How are you planning to open up tomorrow? Final thoughts in case you're the night target?
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 06 2013 06:05 GMT
#3632
On March 06 2013 15:03 MilkSuckler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 14:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Think I'll just dangle you on the end of my hook for a little while longer.
I'm surprised I'm getting such a rise out of you, honestly.

Im fuckn bored thats the only reason why..

Im more shocked Dr.H thinks this is a serious conversation, and completely side stepped Glurio..

I just glanced at Glurio's filter. Holy monkey, lynch him with fire.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 07 2013 06:14 GMT
#3762
On March 07 2013 15:04 MilkSuckler wrote:
All
To re-emphasise the obvious.

Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 09:00 GreYMisT wrote:
It is now day 4! the day will last 24 hours! with 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch!


This is the first time all game we haven't had a clear front runner for lynch, and with ~18hrs left I am getting concerned about consolidation (mainly because most of the action will occur whilst I am asleep & there are signs of strong disagreement).

I suggest for this cycle we stick with the 3 candidates seriously proposed:

(1) Glurio

(2) jcarlsoniv

(3) Aquanim

Thank you for emphasizing the Obvious! Just joking at the moment. Catching up on today's action, if you're still here is that a parallel or series list of names. Is that the order you think is most likely to flip red?

I'll give glurio another read when I'm at a proper computer but I know I was concerned about jcarl given his threatening tone towards DocH earlier and his eagerness to vote that I also pointed out.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 07 2013 06:41 GMT
#3766
On March 07 2013 12:46 Aquanim wrote:
I can't see any breadcrumbs in BH's posts after the dayposts besides his mad-dog charges at Chezinu and Geript, so they were presumably his checks. He could have been paranoid, or maybe Geript was framed by RO. Unless someone can find a breadcrumb all his checks were presumably on now-dead players so I don't see the point in further speculation.

Geript had to die. He was destroying us. Behavior alone was worth the lynch regardless of alignment. If you're concerned about how that went down, may I suggest taking a look at who was instigating him into further shitting up the thread? You might find mafia there, or annoyed town; you tell us.

Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 07 2013 06:48 GMT
#3767
On March 07 2013 13:52 MilkSuckler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 13:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
People are called out multiple times as well throughout the thread, hell I didn't even include Prom. That is almost EVERYONE in the thread Mocsta has suggested we lynch. Throwing around suspicion at absolutely everyone he possibly can all the time doesn't exactly strike me as town behaviour.

There are a few more gut things that bother me about Mocsta but his filter is just so godawful to go through right now I just can't do it anymore. Hell you can add filter occlusion to the list. His play reminds me VERY STGRONGLY of his play from NMM 37.
Scummy.

(1) This is retarded.

If you manage to secure a mislynch of this, you need to look closely at your reads. Everything you highlighted indicates a townie that gives a shit about the game... not a scum player.

Instead of looking at who is accused, why dont you read the reasoning. A lot of is sound (based on what we knew at the time).. the development of thought process is transparent.


Frankly, I am getting pissed off you keep refering to my scum game in NMM37. The only thing that is common is activity which is not an indicator for me.

My agenda is completely different from NMM37, that game, i tunneled one guy as an excuse to contribute.
If anything, your post makes me confirmed town, if you want to put so much emphasis into meta.

Wow this interaction.... just. Getting really bad vibes from WoS going to have another go at his filter thanks to this. Damn.

Either this is the worst attempt ever at meta or WoS really just wants a strong voice/player dead (which seems to be the scum strategy, so it fits the bill). Verdict later. I am more interested in Jcarl.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 07 2013 07:01 GMT
#3768
On March 07 2013 10:16 randombum wrote:
Decided to start reading filters just based off the order list and composing my thoughts about each one as I go along.

So start with grush. First thing that caught my attention:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 05:59 grush57 wrote:
yessiree, tho that was the only time my actions didn't get taken, maybe cuz I only sent it to co-host but I will send both this game

If we never figure out the odd night two I think grush deserves extra attention. The fact that he has "forgotten" to submit an action to both hosts before might be something he kept in mind.
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 06:14 grush57 wrote:
I'm so useless this game :'(


Sums up my opinion of grush. He plays around with starsense and then nothing else. Very empty filter. His only reads have been sure that toad is mafia. Very sure on geript being mafia, and then a one liner saying he doesn't like RO and Hassy. His most recent reads are aqua/jcarl. I won't fault him for who he has been targeting. Because I had suspicisions on toad, jcarl, RO and hassy, but its how he has done it. There's literally only one piece on analysis from him this whole game. and that's

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 03 2013 14:25 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 14:10 MilkSuckler wrote:
On March 03 2013 13:58 grush57 wrote:
Surely atleast some scum tried to switch to Geript. I doubt scum would get in the position for both candidates to be scum.

Agreed (somewhat)
geript (6): DoctorHelvetica, geript, Chezinu, jcarlsoniv, MilkSuckler, glurio,

What do you think about JCarlsoniv grush57?

On March 03 2013 13:58 grush57 wrote:
Tho if geript is scum then we got this in the bag.

y?

2 scum left baby! idk I just said something random man

and jcarlsoniv....

Well he kind of defended for Chez like why would he shoot town when he could get counter claimed.
Plus he shot milkman, which wasn't the strongest town leader this game.
Basically he made some good arguments but Chez is scum

But then there's also stuff about throwing suspicion on Toad and JJ, and while he also sais bad stuff about Chez he wants to lynch geript, but that was after Dr H.

And then there's this

Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 11:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Gettin' real tired of your shit, Chez



which strikes me as a scum to scumbuddy post.

Idk this is kinda just rambling but yea I think jcarl is a good vig/lynch target for tomorrow.



And that's not even very in depth. I get the feeling that grush isn't even that convinced on jcarl from that post. It's like he's trying to say something, that he can point to be and "I knew he was scum" but not actually be the cause of his death.

Does somebody see something I'm not seeing because this just screams mafia to me.

Grush scum meta is much more spammy and intentionally useless. His scum meta also contains more PUSH than his town meta, and he doesn't seem to be pushing for anything this game. I'm not comfortable lynching into him just yet but I would really like to see something solid from him today.

Obvious verdict: 3P or bored T (since it feels somewhat off from his town meta). Not today.

On March 06 2013 07:46 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 07:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
On March 06 2013 06:50 grush57 wrote:
On March 06 2013 06:47 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On March 06 2013 06:40 Aquanim wrote:
On March 06 2013 06:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
If I had to guess based on my gut who that would be it would be WoS or BlazingHand.

You think scum BH would have hard-bussed Chezinu day 2 like he did, reducing scum KP to ONE?
0.o

0.o

0.o

It's something I would do


If geript flips town we should definitely think about lynching WF

Nah. You're a much better target.
Also I don't know whether to be honoured or insulted since more and more people seem to think half of what I write is scripted.

k gl

What makes you feel so safe Grush? Or was that just at the time and not in general, because you filter does feel kind of comfy safe and that might just be you skating under the radar given all the bullshit that happened in the thread D3?
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 07 2013 08:14 GMT
#3771
Mocsta that blew my mind. I need a towel. Oh look there's one in the voting thread.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 09 2013 01:29 GMT
#4118
On March 08 2013 09:27 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 09:26 JungleJorge wrote:
On March 08 2013 09:21 Vivax wrote:
I'm also hearing some noise in the background is that a voice? It sounds stupid.

I wasn't stupid when i told people toad was scum despite him claiming vig n1 and everyone saying "yolo toad is town fo sho". Then risk hammering mafia d1 and I say fuck that the dude is scum and he was. Weren't you on toad's team when he pulled this off and everyone thought that was the best play ever? Oh right you were. Now go kill me cuz I don't want to read this game any longer.

JJ is scum yes?
Sandroba is acting different and being a jailor and sandroba = insta die


On March 09 2013 10:09 grush57 wrote:
Vivax, jcarl, Wos, Aquanim.
in those 4 yes
##Vote: Vivax

I want to lynch Grush, I really do. I said his meta makes him look town but I also know from reading him that he is aware of his town meta and actively (or as actively as can be done with his posting style) emulates it as scum. Now he's calling out a list I would like to believe is at least 3/4 town and is willing to lynch any of them. Please consider a Grush lynch today.

And yes I am aware of what DocH said about scum targeting Grush since it's easy but he's here pushing now without even the courtesy of dot-point reasoning and I'm just not gonna tolerate it.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 09 2013 01:42 GMT
#4120
But seriously guys. Kill grush.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 09 2013 02:05 GMT
#4123
Night action speculation is less productive than masturbation. You want scum to claim they failed to send in a target during the game? 'Cause that would be suicide. N2 GreY was out of town and the scum player in question probably sent the message to him and not oats. Case closed. Move on. Kill grush.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 09 2013 02:13 GMT
#4125
Very Telling that Vivax has basically sold off the only way that I had considered him town by explicity saying he changes his posting behavior and meta each game. I can vote Vivax if you really want but I want blood from grush tomorrow.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 09 2013 05:15 GMT
#4133
On March 09 2013 14:13 MilkSuckler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 11:15 layabout wrote:
We are lynching through jcarl, vivax, aqua, oo, right?

Wrong

we are lynching Vivax today

no one else comes into consideration.

Vivax full stop.

There will be blood!
##Vote: Vivax
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 09 2013 17:54 GMT
#4142
On March 10 2013 02:37 TestSubject893 wrote:
Ok, I've been convinced. Vivax it is. His interaction with jcarl now is odd though.

##Vote:Vivax

Do expound upon this brief interlude of an inkling; let it blossom and grow as the flowers and trees that bear succulent fruit and magnificent shade. Pray, tell what do you mean, good sir, lest we think the only examinations visited upon thee were alien in variety and of the nethers, regionally.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 09 2013 19:13 GMT
#4150
On March 10 2013 04:07 TestSubject893 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 04:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Are there armorers in this game? You should claim. Scum with a dayvig and just having a mad hatter seems crazy to me. I'm looking at people like TS who are jumping on the Vivax bandwagon without really seeming that sure. TestSubject even wrote up a post explaining what he felt unsure about and I don't see the point in doing that unless you're actually worried about people suspecting you for voting someone we all seem to agree to vote for, I don't get it.


OO asked me to. That's what I gathered from his post anyway.

I thought I was asking you to expand on your thought about Vivax--Jcarl relationship speculation because otherwise your post was just noise. What exactly was your vector of analysis between them? You made a statement but it left me confused (admittedly, I am confused all the time).
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 09 2013 23:59 GMT
#4156
Lol someone forgot the game hasn't ended.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 10 2013 00:30 GMT
#4162
Speechless because I have been awake too long. My top 2 are Jcarl and grush. I should review them when I wake up to see if that changes. Maybe they will convince me otherwise while I'm nap times.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 10 2013 14:08 GMT
#4184
I though I slept for two days when I saw votes happening. Or time traveled. Or really anything except you guys not noticing its night phase. But alas, here we are.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 10 2013 15:32 GMT
#4186
On March 11 2013 00:01 layabout wrote:
why would you say where your bombs are???

we want your bombs to overlap with people that are doused so that we have enough cycles to lynch who we need to.

There's a reason they call it a WIFOM bomb.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 12 2013 23:16 GMT
#4339
3rd party is best party
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
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