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On February 27 2013 00:35 The Milkman wrote:
Why are people of low thread presence trying to defend Promethelax and swing the lynch somewhere else?

On February 27 2013 00:39 The Macho Man wrote:
i like vivax's post

On February 27 2013 00:27 Vivax wrote:

FLUFF

Let's get down to business then. First of all I would like to give you my opinion about the mayoral election: I didn't give it much importance. One lynch, two votes, that's it. A townie looking guy gets elected, either a townie looking guy gets confirmed if he hits scum or townie looking scum rides the wave to a mislynch and can shake off responsibility for it.
I don't understand why you're trying to discredit mayoral election. The mayor decides our lynch. He is as important as normal lynch.
My major interest laid in creating a nice atmosphere where we can have fun together and catch butterflies all day so that people who are scum actually feel safe to play like scum. What I've learned in past games is that people I read as scum got a valid reason to not answer questions when I actually read them as scum and called them like that.
"Oh what you call me scum you idiot fine I'll ignore you" fuck that shit.

To catch scum you have to let them feel cosy, when they think they didn't have the pressure to post for two days, then you will struck them with holy might knowing that they actually had the confidence to really play like lurky scum. When they don't know you will push for their lynch at deadline they will post more information, closer to their agenda than to the one made visible by townies.
Since town doesn't seem to want to adopt such an innovative strategy, let's move on with standard play.
I understand that some players might have their own ways to play. That's fine. They keep it to themselves and work the game out. What's the point of posting all of thise? In the end, you say that people don't want to adopt this play so even YOU say that's just useless fluff. Are you trying to make this post look important and big?
Purely based on these early game interactions I've become wary of restraining order/marv given his early dead serious tone despite the comparatively low interest into the mayor candidates. He subtly shovelled shit at MS for that awesome post and fucked off ignoring most of the early opinions.
However, given his later contributions to the pardoner talk, dissuading town from following Toad's terrible plan, my read switched back to a more townie one, especially when he suggested that WoS should be elected, which I agree with. I am curious to see what else he will contribute.
For some reason your logic for towniness is same opinion=town.
ObviousOne first serious post was when he spat out his geript scumread that made me suspicious of him, I actually liked his answer, very townie cause bold along with his lighthearted early posts.
Why are you liking one-liner spam trolls again? His answer was nonexistant.
aquanim I have a slight scumread on, his early contributions consist of asking MS a pointless question and then saying there's a voting thread. He likes to pick on people like WoS and OO, who I have townreads on and are at best guilty of lighthearted and at worst clumsy play. Most of his filter looks much artificial, his answers to reads look forced. I advise you to analyse him properly and I will support a mayor willing to lynch him.
Again, someone is NOT town because they have DIFFERENT reads than you. What method of scumhunting is that? You say that his posts are artificial, how? I don't see that. He's the guy "going deeper" and asking questions.
Layabout could be lurky scum. If he's town I'd like him to post more. I remember him being an aggressive pusher as town in fruity mafia.
Why even talk about someone you have no idea about right now?
JJ is a good lynch candidate. His attack on me for playing casually is a scum trait, and he quit pursuing me asking me a weird question about what I think. Well, after the last refresh (23:40 TL time) I see he's actually back to get me. Saying I didn't follow up after calling him scummy for what he did, too bad that I went to sleep around 3 AM and I'm spending 2:30 hours with reading and writing this post, so his argument is again scummy and not thought out.
The argument he's used didn't apply to me, but also to Toad and some other dudes. He seems to think people trying to guess smurf identities are scum, as pointed out in my earlier post.
Again, attacked me=scum, holy.
Last on in the chronology and hotly disputed in the thread: Prom. There's a lot to work on with him.
What bothers me about Prom is his unusual lack of confidence. He came dead serious into the thread with his RNG lynch idea, but didn't actually RNG anyone at that point, and even said he would lynch himself, which is a retarded thing to do when you know you're town. When people criticized him for his behaviour regarding the RNG, he quickly switched to a WoS lynch preference.
Then he votes VE, who wants to lynch him. Again, a point towards scumprom, who would probably not want to get lynched as town, it looks like a subtle buddying attempt.

Then again, it confuses me that he's been interacting in a way with VE that suggests that he would rethink his townread on me if just VE convinced him. That was after VE said he thinks I'm scum based on association with Prom (stupid reason).
Trying to see this from a scumprom perspective, this doesn't make sense to me. A scumprom would probably try to convince VE that there is an association and that he's null or town on me to frame me for later. Instead he expressed being content with changing his read on me if VE convinced him.

I am null on Prom given how he's been handling his reads of me.
YOU THINK PROMETHELAX IS TOWN BECAUSE VE THINKS YOU ARE MAFIA? HOW BULLSHIT IS THAT?
You care about being "town" in people's eyes too much in my taste.
Geript looked pretty scummy to me yesterday, but since he's a newbie that might just be a consequence of that. His attacks on me cause of me being casual made me pretty suspicious, and his blabber about an agenda linked to that as well, but I don't want to lynch a newbie this early, they can look scummy as either alignment.
What the fuck? I saw newbie card played, but defending a person WHEN THAT PERSON IS NOT UNDER ANY PRESSURE AT ALL USING THIS REASON IS SO MUCH BULLSHIT!
In retrospect I'm not really able to get proper reads out for the early behaviour since it seems that scummy people seem to be scattered across the categories, but I thought I'd make an on-the-go-attempt to use that type of analysis.

On February 27 2013 00:59 MilkSuckler wrote:
The Macho Man = Iamperfection

I have to say... now that I know mr. super duper pro-town is hard defending prome, I am even more concerned....

On February 27 2013 01:02 Vivax wrote:
No, that post by yours is mafia agenda bro. I'm not glorifying anything, I'm laying out my thoughts and posting my reads.

U scum?

On February 27 2013 01:03 The Milkman wrote:

Okay, that solves things. I'll just get an ignore list going.

On February 27 2013 01:02 The Macho Man wrote:

concerned about what

e.g. Scum can easily say Grush is town; as much as prome can due to starsenses... the point is m00t and thus NOT alignment indicative. yet you advocate it is.....

On February 27 2013 01:07 MilkSuckler wrote:

Well now that I know you are != n00b .. I expect more rational that what has been presented from you.

Im not a heretic on prome; I identified behaviour I think is consistent with a scum mentality.
Everything you have declared as reasons for prome to be town are weak at best and defending a scumbuddy at worst.



This in conjunction with not being a n00b, is far from perfect play....

On February 27 2013 00:35 The Milkman wrote:
Why are people of low thread presence trying to defend Promethelax and swing the lynch somewhere else?

On February 27 2013 01:09 Restraining Order wrote:

This is the dumbest thing I have read all game, and let me tell you, there are plenty dumb things around.

On February 27 2013 01:07 Vivax wrote:
Let's lynch yamato, for glory.