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MilkSuckler
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On February 26 2013 12:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote: WoS has done nothing to indicate to me that he is definitely town, in fact I find his most recent posts sort of worrisome. Scumhunting is bandwagoning. If no one applies pressure after a case, if no one puts the heat on then what is the point? I made a long post about Promethelax and so far no one has anything to talk about except some stupid shit about pardoner? We've had a million games with a pardoner. It's a bad role. Anti-town by nature. There is no way for us to know who is going to get it and it's not worth worrying about as much as it's worth worrying about lynching scum (especially interesting considering Day 1 is the only lynch that can not be interfered with by the pardoner) Remember the example of the scummiest post ever from Ver's Guide where tree.hugger said (paraphrase) "Yeah, I think youngminii has really great cases against him. Good scum read. Don't think I'm gonna vote for him though." (They were scum teammates in the end, and even if YM wasn't scum that is a damn scummy thing to say) That's exactly the kind of hesitation that's incredibly suspicious and it isn't too far away from what WoS is saying. He's not willing to call Prom scum despite praising my accusation, so what the hell? Not interested in his ramblings about the pardoner either. Why wouldn't scum, trying to get pardoner, try to do so in the most townlike way possible? Why wouldn't scum use the platform of pardoner/mayor as a method to try to buy credibility with town despite the role not being all that useful? Why should I trust someone who spent more effort explaining why he should be pardoner than trying to ensure we lynch the right way today? Why should I take "scumhunting good, bandwagon (pressure is what this really means) bad" as a pro-town sentiment? WoS has been all over the place with his voting and never really seemed to me to apply real pressure unlike actual confused townies. Only now is he coming out with "lynch the vet" when my survival was highly suspect already by Day 3-4 (not so suspect when you consider how bad my reads have been past Day 1). | ||
DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
Sounds good to me I guess. A Vivax flip as town will prove your associations are shit, and are likely scum, while a scum flip pretty much confirms you for town, in which case we've basically won anyway once Soniv goes down. It's a win-win baby. Oops look who tried to deflect the nail-in-the-coffin bandwagon yesterday | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On March 11 2013 09:19 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Oops look who tried to deflect the nail-in-the-coffin bandwagon yesterday His associations were still shit, and claiming Engineer was dumb as hell because he basically gave the bartender an ok to ignite. | ||
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United States15034 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On March 11 2013 09:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote: But the Vivax case was not and that's ultimately all that mattered isn't it I agreed that the Vivax lynch made him town, but that doesn't mean he's right about everything. Come on, DrH that's a weak proof. I'm going to have a fucking hell of a time trying to fight a lynch against you but you can do better than that at least. | ||
DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
ALSO - If you want to fight a lynch against me, try having a better argument then "you're alive therefore scum" and come up with some real reasons. | ||
DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
why didn't me being alive yesterday set you off or shit even the day before that? all of a sudden you're sure i'm scum now? you're doing this instead of analysis on randombum/grush/testsubject all of whom have come under heavy suspicion at some point or another in this game? | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
Honestly I was thinking of just laying down and dying like Geript, but now it's actually on me to find some fucking scum or we lose. It's David against Dr. Goliath; I'm going to earn my right to play in your upcoming game. Also hold on a sec, how in the fuck did I deflect the Vivax case exactly? I meant exactly what I said there, but was wrong about Soniv. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On March 11 2013 09:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote: you've literally never accused me before and this seems like desperation why didn't me being alive yesterday set you off or shit even the day before that? all of a sudden you're sure i'm scum now? you're doing this instead of analysis on randombum/grush/testsubject all of whom have come under heavy suspicion at some point or another in this game? It is desperation, you're right. Because I actually fucking care about winning/losing the game right now since we lost 5 townies at one go. Grush has come under no serious suspicion at all all game and no one seems to give a shit despite my attempts, so what is trying now going to do? Randombum I remember seeing as town earlier but I'll have a look at him eventually. Testsubject I'll get to. You first. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
Same reason I'll bet. | ||
DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On March 11 2013 10:03 WaveofShadow wrote: Why do YOU care so much to actually pressure me all of a sudden after doing nothing for the past 3 days? Same reason I'll bet. Because we're inching closer to LYLO and I haven't done nothing for the past 3 days, I filled out a case on Vivax who flipped scum. I was nominally involved in the glurio lynch but more than other lurkers like Randombum and Grush, what about them? | ||
DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On March 11 2013 10:01 WaveofShadow wrote: Challenge accepted. Honestly I was thinking of just laying down and dying like Geript, but now it's actually on me to find some fucking scum or we lose. It's David against Dr. Goliath; I'm going to earn my right to play in your upcoming game. Also hold on a sec, how in the fuck did I deflect the Vivax case exactly? I meant exactly what I said there, but was wrong about Soniv. Soniv was town and I suspected he was either town or 3rd party. His logic was good and he put forth an honest effort to scumhunt but something felt off to me and it's clear now that what was missing was just how much he cared about the game like most people after RO died. | ||
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United States15034 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On March 11 2013 10:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote: The situation is only desperate assuming there is a bartender which if that's the case, he has basically already won. If it is 1 scum versus 4 town there is at least one more chance to get it right. There's always a chance at an armorer or vet so it could even be another day after that. The fuck? Explain how there is no bartender. | ||
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United States15034 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
How does the KP add up even WITH two bombs from Mocsta? Where are scum going to get 2 nightkills all of a sudden? | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
The fact that you are either playing dumb or didn't realize this looks awful on you. And don't give me bullshit about not reading the OP either, you've had ample opportunity to re-read EVERY TIME someone has called you out on it. | ||
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