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MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 11 2013 00:01 GMT
#4201
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 11 2013 00:18 GMT
#4202
##Vote: WaveofShadow

On February 26 2013 12:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
WoS has done nothing to indicate to me that he is definitely town, in fact I find his most recent posts sort of worrisome. Scumhunting is bandwagoning. If no one applies pressure after a case, if no one puts the heat on then what is the point? I made a long post about Promethelax and so far no one has anything to talk about except some stupid shit about pardoner? We've had a million games with a pardoner. It's a bad role. Anti-town by nature. There is no way for us to know who is going to get it and it's not worth worrying about as much as it's worth worrying about lynching scum (especially interesting considering Day 1 is the only lynch that can not be interfered with by the pardoner)

Remember the example of the scummiest post ever from Ver's Guide where tree.hugger said (paraphrase) "Yeah, I think youngminii has really great cases against him. Good scum read. Don't think I'm gonna vote for him though." (They were scum teammates in the end, and even if YM wasn't scum that is a damn scummy thing to say) That's exactly the kind of hesitation that's incredibly suspicious and it isn't too far away from what WoS is saying. He's not willing to call Prom scum despite praising my accusation, so what the hell?



Not interested in his ramblings about the pardoner either. Why wouldn't scum, trying to get pardoner, try to do so in the most townlike way possible? Why wouldn't scum use the platform of pardoner/mayor as a method to try to buy credibility with town despite the role not being all that useful? Why should I trust someone who spent more effort explaining why he should be pardoner than trying to ensure we lynch the right way today? Why should I take "scumhunting good, bandwagon (pressure is what this really means) bad" as a pro-town sentiment?


WoS has been all over the place with his voting and never really seemed to me to apply real pressure unlike actual confused townies. Only now is he coming out with "lynch the vet" when my survival was highly suspect already by Day 3-4 (not so suspect when you consider how bad my reads have been past Day 1).
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 11 2013 00:19 GMT
#4203
Sounds good to me I guess. A Vivax flip as town will prove your associations are shit, and are likely scum, while a scum flip pretty much confirms you for town, in which case we've basically won anyway once Soniv goes down.
It's a win-win baby.


Oops look who tried to deflect the nail-in-the-coffin bandwagon yesterday
RIP Aaliyah
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 11 2013 00:27 GMT
#4204
On March 11 2013 09:19 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
Sounds good to me I guess. A Vivax flip as town will prove your associations are shit, and are likely scum, while a scum flip pretty much confirms you for town, in which case we've basically won anyway once Soniv goes down.
It's a win-win baby.


Oops look who tried to deflect the nail-in-the-coffin bandwagon yesterday

His associations were still shit, and claiming Engineer was dumb as hell because he basically gave the bartender an ok to ignite.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 11 2013 00:28 GMT
#4205
But the Vivax case was not and that's ultimately all that mattered isn't it
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 11 2013 00:28 GMT
#4206
He claimed Engineer to prove town still had KP so that the Vivax lynch wouldn't be derailed
RIP Aaliyah
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 11 2013 00:33 GMT
#4207
On March 11 2013 09:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
But the Vivax case was not and that's ultimately all that mattered isn't it


I agreed that the Vivax lynch made him town, but that doesn't mean he's right about everything.
Come on, DrH that's a weak proof. I'm going to have a fucking hell of a time trying to fight a lynch against you but you can do better than that at least.

twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 11 2013 00:56 GMT
#4208
I'm gonna comb your filter later believe me but I really don't give a shit about Milk's association reads and I never did and never claimed to. I don't see why you're trying extra hard to discredit him. My point is that you were trying to deflect Viv's lynch yesterday.

ALSO - If you want to fight a lynch against me, try having a better argument then "you're alive therefore scum" and come up with some real reasons.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 11 2013 00:58 GMT
#4209
you've literally never accused me before and this seems like desperation

why didn't me being alive yesterday set you off or shit even the day before that? all of a sudden you're sure i'm scum now? you're doing this instead of analysis on randombum/grush/testsubject all of whom have come under heavy suspicion at some point or another in this game?
RIP Aaliyah
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 11 2013 01:01 GMT
#4210
Challenge accepted.
Honestly I was thinking of just laying down and dying like Geript, but now it's actually on me to find some fucking scum or we lose. It's David against Dr. Goliath; I'm going to earn my right to play in your upcoming game.

Also hold on a sec, how in the fuck did I deflect the Vivax case exactly? I meant exactly what I said there, but was wrong about Soniv.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 11 2013 01:03 GMT
#4211
On March 11 2013 09:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
you've literally never accused me before and this seems like desperation

why didn't me being alive yesterday set you off or shit even the day before that? all of a sudden you're sure i'm scum now? you're doing this instead of analysis on randombum/grush/testsubject all of whom have come under heavy suspicion at some point or another in this game?

It is desperation, you're right. Because I actually fucking care about winning/losing the game right now since we lost 5 townies at one go.
Grush has come under no serious suspicion at all all game and no one seems to give a shit despite my attempts, so what is trying now going to do?
Randombum I remember seeing as town earlier but I'll have a look at him eventually.
Testsubject I'll get to.

You first.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 11 2013 01:03 GMT
#4212
Why do YOU care so much to actually pressure me all of a sudden after doing nothing for the past 3 days?
Same reason I'll bet.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 11 2013 01:08 GMT
#4213
On March 11 2013 10:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
Why do YOU care so much to actually pressure me all of a sudden after doing nothing for the past 3 days?
Same reason I'll bet.

Because we're inching closer to LYLO and I haven't done nothing for the past 3 days, I filled out a case on Vivax who flipped scum. I was nominally involved in the glurio lynch but more than other lurkers like Randombum and Grush, what about them?
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 11 2013 01:09 GMT
#4214
On March 11 2013 10:01 WaveofShadow wrote:
Challenge accepted.
Honestly I was thinking of just laying down and dying like Geript, but now it's actually on me to find some fucking scum or we lose. It's David against Dr. Goliath; I'm going to earn my right to play in your upcoming game.

Also hold on a sec, how in the fuck did I deflect the Vivax case exactly? I meant exactly what I said there, but was wrong about Soniv.


Soniv was town and I suspected he was either town or 3rd party. His logic was good and he put forth an honest effort to scumhunt but something felt off to me and it's clear now that what was missing was just how much he cared about the game like most people after RO died.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 11 2013 01:10 GMT
#4215
The situation is only desperate assuming there is a bartender which if that's the case, he has basically already won. If it is 1 scum versus 4 town there is at least one more chance to get it right. There's always a chance at an armorer or vet so it could even be another day after that.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 11 2013 01:19 GMT
#4216
It's also really weird that you seem to be trying to win my trust or prove to me that you're legitimate when you think I'm scum you shouldn't care about either of those things since those things mean nothing to scum, all that matters is the mislynch
RIP Aaliyah
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 11 2013 01:22 GMT
#4217
On March 11 2013 10:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
The situation is only desperate assuming there is a bartender which if that's the case, he has basically already won. If it is 1 scum versus 4 town there is at least one more chance to get it right. There's always a chance at an armorer or vet so it could even be another day after that.

The fuck?
Explain how there is no bartender.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 11 2013 01:22 GMT
#4218
Why do we have to assume there is a bartender
RIP Aaliyah
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 11 2013 01:23 GMT
#4219
5 kills.
How does the KP add up even WITH two bombs from Mocsta? Where are scum going to get 2 nightkills all of a sudden?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 11 2013 01:25 GMT
#4220
Wait, how are scum going to get 3 nighkills assuming one was used on Mocsta!
The fact that you are either playing dumb or didn't realize this looks awful on you.
And don't give me bullshit about not reading the OP either, you've had ample opportunity to re-read EVERY TIME someone has called you out on it.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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