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glurio
Germany597 Posts
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
jcarlsoniv(4): Testsubject893, WaveofShadow, glurio, randombum <--- bad lynch glurio(3): The Macho Man, DoctorHelvetica, layabout <---- best lynch WaveOfshadow(1): ObviousOne <---- acceptable lynch vivax(2): JungleJorge, MilkSuckler <----fucking around with town for no good reason Testsubject893(1): Aquanim <----fucking around with town for no good reason charmander(1): Vivax <----fucking around with town for no good reason not voting: grush57 We have a few hours left and a few people promising phone votes, we need to consolidate quickly. it also says 14 alive but i only count 13 | ||
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TestSubject893
United States774 Posts
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [*] + but if you have filtered me i have already explained why albeit indirectly | ||
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glurio
Germany597 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
I really don't like the idea of lynching Glurio, and I really don't want to change my vote. If I'm wrong y'all are going to associate the hell out of it and waste a day lynching me imo, but I'm willing to risk it. It's like 4 days till LYLO I think? Mebbe more? I'm willing to be wrong here to stand up for what I believe. | ||
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TestSubject893
United States774 Posts
On March 08 2013 05:52 layabout wrote: Votecount: jcarlsoniv(4): Testsubject893, WaveofShadow, glurio, randombum <--- bad lynch glurio(3): The Macho Man, DoctorHelvetica, layabout <---- best lynch WaveOfshadow(1): ObviousOne <---- acceptable lynch vivax(2): JungleJorge, MilkSuckler <----fucking around with town for no good reason Testsubject893(1): Aquanim <----fucking around with town for no good reason charmander(1): Vivax <----fucking around with town for no good reason not voting: grush57 We have a few hours left and a few people promising phone votes, we need to consolidate quickly. it also says 14 alive but i only count 13 jcarl is voting for WoS, that makes 14. The fact that the leading candidate only has 4 is a huge problem with 3 hours til the deadline, guys. Anyone whose vote is on someone other than jcarl or glurio right now need to either get really convincing really fast or move your vote. | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
jcarlsoniv(4): Testsubject893, WaveofShadow, glurio, randombum <--- bad lynch glurio(3): The Macho Man, DoctorHelvetica, layabout <---- best lynch WaveOfshadow(2): ObviousOne, jcarlsoniv <---- acceptable lynch vivax(2): JungleJorge, MilkSuckler <----fucking around with town for no good reason Testsubject893(1): Aquanim <----fucking around with town for no good reason charmander(1): Vivax <----fucking around with town for no good reason not voting: grush57 It's also worth pointing out that there are 4 people in the fucking around category and only 2mafia and 1 3rd party?? present in the game. This is why people get fed up of normals. | ||
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
On March 08 2013 02:09 TestSubject893 wrote: In NMM37 I claimed tracker in what was effectively my first post. You can imagine that being the obvious night target might change how I play. On top of that, the I for the most part disagreed with what some of the town players were saying in that game and felt the need to steer public opinion. I am much more in alignment with most players reads in this game and haven't found a need to be as vocal to get the suspicion onto the right people. Sure, whatever. I'd expect a townie you to be trying to make *something* happen in the thread though. Show me one example of a question that fits this description. You're just making things up to support your conclusion. Let me rephrase this. I don't see any unifying, scumhunting mentality behind your play as a whole. You're asking questions, but I can't see anything coming from any of them. Since you already had my filter open, how about you take a look at the posts I already made addressing this. If those aren't enough for you I'm happy to add more, but I'm not going to waste my time repeating myself. Yeah you came up with a plausible explanation, but there are often plausible explanations for things scum do. Same as day 1. I've explained already, and am happy to explain more, but I'm not going to repeat myself. How on earth is this trying to swing the lynch to geript. I say in the post you quoted that a no-lynch is concerning to me, and again in my filter you can see that its my opinion that a lynch of chez or geript would have been fine with me, but I want to avoid a no-lynch at all costs. You're putting words in my mouth and drawing ridiculous conclusions. I'm not comfortable with your willingness to swing to geript given that you've already said "we must lynch chezinu today". This isn't damning on its own I agree but it certainly doesn't give me a town read on you. What trend? You haven't established one. Geript was shitting up the thread for all of D3, and honestly I'm not sure what you expected me to post. How is this a mark against me? The trend towards you not ever posting any decent reads or thoughts and displaying no inclination to hunt scum, which continues even now. Is this a joke? Of course I don't have an explanation. Are you gonna ask vivax why he got the same response here as prom who flipped scum? How about the one that really does stick out: the maybe on layabout? Looks like RO is trying to be ready to take credit for knowing layabout was scum without drawing attention to him. BETTER LYNCH LAYABOUT NOW, AMIRITE? So your point here is that I had a null read on RO? Yeah, I did, you caught me. He wasn't really a high priority to lynch for me. Better kill everyone who thought that way, all dozen of us. Yeah I should have been clearer about this. All I was trying to show here was that your interactions with RO aren't inconsistent with scum, not that they directly make you scum. This case is entirely baseless and frankly, I don't see how it could be anything but an attempt to distract town from reaching a majority before the day is over. For now my vote stays on jcarl because we need to get one of the scummy players to 8. Should we need to I'd be glad to switch my vote to the clearly panicked Aquanim. Or, alternatively, you're scum. How is this case "panicked"? wtf. | ||
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JungleJorge
Uganda104 Posts
"1) It actually makes sense since glurio had reason to be afraid by me implying I would see his flip soon. I said I would shoot Hassy in the last minute. There was no time for scum to change targets." And you are actually pushing and voting jc instead. Looking at this phrase you should be sure glurio is scum no? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On March 08 2013 06:06 layabout wrote: Votecount: jcarlsoniv(4): Testsubject893, WaveofShadow, glurio, randombum <--- bad lynch glurio(3): The Macho Man, DoctorHelvetica, layabout <---- best lynch WaveOfshadow(2): ObviousOne, jcarlsoniv <---- acceptable lynch vivax(2): JungleJorge, MilkSuckler <----fucking around with town for no good reason Testsubject893(1): Aquanim <----fucking around with town for no good reason charmander(1): Vivax <----fucking around with town for no good reason not voting: grush57 It's also worth pointing out that there are 4 people in the fucking around category and only 2mafia and 1 3rd party?? present in the game. This is why people get fed up of normals. I don't understand, why does your 'fucking around' category exist exactly? Because they don't agree with you? (Vivax excluded) | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
- Pretty much all of the points after the first one are "this isn't incompatible with scum, but not directly scummy" - TestSubject hasn't done ANYTHING of scumhunting worth all game - His tone throughout the entire game is hesitant and non-committal - After defending my case he leaves without having anything further to say about the cases today than "oh look jcarlson hasn't responded to randombum let's vote him" a few hours earlier. Is this a man who cares about the lynch in < 8 hours? No no it is not. There have been two kinds of defences of TestSubject so far: - "Oh he looks townie" Have you actually reassessed him since N1? - "Such-and-such a point is weak" Yeah some of them are but the thing which actually makes him scum (i.e. his overall tone and content) is not. | ||
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
On March 08 2013 06:10 layabout wrote: wave those people are not seriously pushing lynches they are just wasting our time with votes that will not count towards anything I am seriously pushing the TS lynch because he is scum. I am willing to sheep on another wagon in the interests of obtaining a majority. Glurio is my preference in this case. | ||
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
On March 08 2013 06:12 Aquanim wrote: - After defending my case he leaves without having anything further to say about the cases today than "oh look jcarlson hasn't responded to randombum let's vote him" a few hours earlier. Is this a man who cares about the lynch in < 8 hours? No no it is not. EBWOP: I've realised this isn't quite true, he actually does mention the jcarlsoniv case again. If he hadn't done anything that would be incredibly scummy - his lacklustre comment leaves me at null on this point. Carry on. | ||
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TestSubject893
United States774 Posts
I'm not comfortable with your willingness to swing to geript given that you've already said "we must lynch chezinu today". This isn't damning on its own I agree but it certainly doesn't give me a town read on you. And this too is BS. Nowhere do I say "Chez has to be lynched today". I say what amounts to "Chez has to be lynched". How is responding positively to someone saying "If we're going to kill both Chez and geript, maybe we should kill geript first" contradictory to this? The rest of that posts amounts to you saying "Yeah, those are good reason for doing stuff, but do you know who really wants to be able to explain their actions? SCUM!". Your case is bad; trying to stick with it even though I've shown you its bad is a scumtell. How is this case "panicked"? wtf. The case isn't panicked; you are. There is no reason to make such a terrible case unless you're trying to distract town. If it weren't 3 hours before the lynch with no votes on you, I'd demand we kill you now. Instead I guess I'll have to make due with demanding we kill you tomorrow. | ||
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
On March 08 2013 06:23 TestSubject893 wrote: Ok, aqua, the only thing of any substance I took from that post was this: And this too is BS. Nowhere do I say "Chez has to be lynched today". I say what amounts to "Chez has to be lynched". How is responding positively to someone saying "If we're going to kill both Chez and geript, maybe we should kill geript first" contradictory to this? The rest of that posts amounts to you saying "Yeah, those are good reason for doing stuff, but do you know who really wants to be able to explain their actions? SCUM!". Your case is bad; trying to stick with it even though I've shown you its bad is a scumtell. The case isn't panicked; you are. There is no reason to make such a terrible case unless you're trying to distract town. If it weren't 3 hours before the lynch with no votes on you, I'd demand we kill you now. Instead I guess I'll have to make due with demanding we kill you tomorrow. You want to show my case is terrible? How about giving some decent reads or hunting scum FOR THE FIRST TIME THIS ENTIRE GAME. | ||
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TestSubject893
United States774 Posts
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TestSubject893
United States774 Posts
On March 08 2013 06:24 Aquanim wrote: You want to show my case is terrible? How about giving some decent reads or hunting scum FOR THE FIRST TIME THIS ENTIRE GAME. Are you telling me the only reason you think I'm scum is because other people have written more cases than me? If this is the only indicator to you, why is grush not 1000 times scummier? | ||
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
On March 08 2013 06:26 TestSubject893 wrote: Are you telling me the only reason you think I'm scum is because other people have written more cases than me? If this is the only indicator to you, why is grush not 1000 times scummier? Grush is notoriously useless. You are not. And it's not just cases, I can't see any indication that you're looking for scum at all. When I read your filter my feeling is that you're saying "don't look at me, I'm not here", not "which one of you lot is scum?" That being said I will consider Grush again tomorrow. | ||
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