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MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 07 2013 00:47 GMT
#3681
Either way.. JJ correctly called out Wade Fell as Detective IN THE THREAD.

I wonder what the benefit of that was for town?

Wade wasnt under high suspicion then....Conveniently JJ hasnt been able to JK since Night 1 when he jailed Toad.... isnt it convenient that when Aquanim is RB'd ... JJ forgets to send in his action?

I think we need to policy lynch JJ

In fact, I am voting him now.
##Vote: JungleJorge
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
March 07 2013 00:49 GMT
#3682
Looks like there's finally a day where not everybody has already agreed on scum with 40 hours left (impossible now that days are 24), but still it was getting really boring with the prom/chez/geript lynches pretty much set in stone and no other candidate really discussed. Anywho, I'm going to do some filtering and some re-reading and see how my reads come up.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
March 07 2013 00:50 GMT
#3683
On March 07 2013 09:47 MilkSuckler wrote:
Either way.. JJ correctly called out Wade Fell as Detective IN THE THREAD.

I wonder what the benefit of that was for town?

Wade wasnt under high suspicion then....Conveniently JJ hasnt been able to JK since Night 1 when he jailed Toad.... isnt it convenient that when Aquanim is RB'd ... JJ forgets to send in his action?

I think we need to policy lynch JJ

In fact, I am voting him now.
##Vote: JungleJorge

should we policy lynch you for being stupid?

how would it benefit him as scum?
plus we should wait to see if there is another role block....
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 07 2013 00:52 GMT
#3684
On March 07 2013 09:50 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 09:47 MilkSuckler wrote:
Either way.. JJ correctly called out Wade Fell as Detective IN THE THREAD.

I wonder what the benefit of that was for town?

Wade wasnt under high suspicion then....Conveniently JJ hasnt been able to JK since Night 1 when he jailed Toad.... isnt it convenient that when Aquanim is RB'd ... JJ forgets to send in his action?

I think we need to policy lynch JJ

In fact, I am voting him now.
##Vote: JungleJorge

should we policy lynch you for being stupid?

how would it benefit him as scum?
plus we should wait to see if there is another role block....

How would it benefit him? He successfully RB'd the medic Day1.

I have already given a strong reason for why Aquanim may have been RB'd.. and this ties coincidently with JJ "not submitting his actions"

How is this stupid?... that you immediately jump to his defense already speaks of why it can be considered a good scum play.
The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 07 2013 00:52 GMT
#3685
On March 07 2013 09:50 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 09:47 MilkSuckler wrote:
Either way.. JJ correctly called out Wade Fell as Detective IN THE THREAD.

I wonder what the benefit of that was for town?

Wade wasnt under high suspicion then....Conveniently JJ hasnt been able to JK since Night 1 when he jailed Toad.... isnt it convenient that when Aquanim is RB'd ... JJ forgets to send in his action?

I think we need to policy lynch JJ

In fact, I am voting him now.
##Vote: JungleJorge

should we policy lynch you for being stupid?

how would it benefit him as scum?
plus we should wait to see if there is another role block....

flood control
Expect the unexpected in the kingdom of madness
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 07 2013 00:53 GMT
#3686
On March 07 2013 09:52 MilkSuckler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 09:50 iamperfection wrote:
On March 07 2013 09:47 MilkSuckler wrote:
Either way.. JJ correctly called out Wade Fell as Detective IN THE THREAD.

I wonder what the benefit of that was for town?

Wade wasnt under high suspicion then....Conveniently JJ hasnt been able to JK since Night 1 when he jailed Toad.... isnt it convenient that when Aquanim is RB'd ... JJ forgets to send in his action?

I think we need to policy lynch JJ

In fact, I am voting him now.
##Vote: JungleJorge

should we policy lynch you for being stupid?

how would it benefit him as scum?
plus we should wait to see if there is another role block....

How would it benefit him? He successfully RB'd the medic Day1.

I have already given a strong reason for why Aquanim may have been RB'd.. and this ties coincidently with JJ "not submitting his actions"

How is this stupid?... that you immediately jump to his defense already speaks of why it can be considered a good scum play.

The only thing I can agree with you your comment.. is to wait and see if another RB..

considering we only have its what ~9pm for you guys, I hope to get RB feedback within the next 3 to 4 hrs.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 07 2013 00:56 GMT
#3687
scum haven't had enough shots for us to kill dr.h today

we lynch aqua today

maybe glurio since he looks very scummy

we lynch aqua today
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MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 07 2013 00:59 GMT
#3688
On March 07 2013 09:56 layabout wrote:
maybe glurio since he looks very scummy

we lynch aqua today

Wait... are you saying Glurio doesnt look scummy?

And aqua.. refresh my memory.. do you have anything on him other than the RB.. cos if so.. i prefer JJ for all the reason i already said.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
March 07 2013 01:16 GMT
#3689
Decided to start reading filters just based off the order list and composing my thoughts about each one as I go along.

So start with grush. First thing that caught my attention:
On February 21 2013 05:59 grush57 wrote:
yessiree, tho that was the only time my actions didn't get taken, maybe cuz I only sent it to co-host but I will send both this game

If we never figure out the odd night two I think grush deserves extra attention. The fact that he has "forgotten" to submit an action to both hosts before might be something he kept in mind.
On March 01 2013 06:14 grush57 wrote:
I'm so useless this game :'(


Sums up my opinion of grush. He plays around with starsense and then nothing else. Very empty filter. His only reads have been sure that toad is mafia. Very sure on geript being mafia, and then a one liner saying he doesn't like RO and Hassy. His most recent reads are aqua/jcarl. I won't fault him for who he has been targeting. Because I had suspicisions on toad, jcarl, RO and hassy, but its how he has done it. There's literally only one piece on analysis from him this whole game. and that's

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 03 2013 14:25 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 14:10 MilkSuckler wrote:
On March 03 2013 13:58 grush57 wrote:
Surely atleast some scum tried to switch to Geript. I doubt scum would get in the position for both candidates to be scum.

Agreed (somewhat)
geript (6): DoctorHelvetica, geript, Chezinu, jcarlsoniv, MilkSuckler, glurio,

What do you think about JCarlsoniv grush57?

On March 03 2013 13:58 grush57 wrote:
Tho if geript is scum then we got this in the bag.

y?

2 scum left baby! idk I just said something random man

and jcarlsoniv....

Well he kind of defended for Chez like why would he shoot town when he could get counter claimed.
Plus he shot milkman, which wasn't the strongest town leader this game.
Basically he made some good arguments but Chez is scum

But then there's also stuff about throwing suspicion on Toad and JJ, and while he also sais bad stuff about Chez he wants to lynch geript, but that was after Dr H.

And then there's this

Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 11:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Gettin' real tired of your shit, Chez



which strikes me as a scum to scumbuddy post.

Idk this is kinda just rambling but yea I think jcarl is a good vig/lynch target for tomorrow.



And that's not even very in depth. I get the feeling that grush isn't even that convinced on jcarl from that post. It's like he's trying to say something, that he can point to be and "I knew he was scum" but not actually be the cause of his death.

Does somebody see something I'm not seeing because this just screams mafia to me.
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 07 2013 01:20 GMT
#3690
On March 07 2013 10:16 randombum wrote:
Decided to start reading filters just based off the order list and composing my thoughts about each one as I go along.

So start with grush. First thing that caught my attention:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 05:59 grush57 wrote:
yessiree, tho that was the only time my actions didn't get taken, maybe cuz I only sent it to co-host but I will send both this game

If we never figure out the odd night two I think grush deserves extra attention. The fact that he has "forgotten" to submit an action to both hosts before might be something he kept in mind.
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 06:14 grush57 wrote:
I'm so useless this game :'(


Sums up my opinion of grush. He plays around with starsense and then nothing else. Very empty filter. His only reads have been sure that toad is mafia. Very sure on geript being mafia, and then a one liner saying he doesn't like RO and Hassy. His most recent reads are aqua/jcarl. I won't fault him for who he has been targeting. Because I had suspicisions on toad, jcarl, RO and hassy, but its how he has done it. There's literally only one piece on analysis from him this whole game. and that's

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 03 2013 14:25 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 14:10 MilkSuckler wrote:
On March 03 2013 13:58 grush57 wrote:
Surely atleast some scum tried to switch to Geript. I doubt scum would get in the position for both candidates to be scum.

Agreed (somewhat)
geript (6): DoctorHelvetica, geript, Chezinu, jcarlsoniv, MilkSuckler, glurio,

What do you think about JCarlsoniv grush57?

On March 03 2013 13:58 grush57 wrote:
Tho if geript is scum then we got this in the bag.

y?

2 scum left baby! idk I just said something random man

and jcarlsoniv....

Well he kind of defended for Chez like why would he shoot town when he could get counter claimed.
Plus he shot milkman, which wasn't the strongest town leader this game.
Basically he made some good arguments but Chez is scum

But then there's also stuff about throwing suspicion on Toad and JJ, and while he also sais bad stuff about Chez he wants to lynch geript, but that was after Dr H.

And then there's this

Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 11:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Gettin' real tired of your shit, Chez



which strikes me as a scum to scumbuddy post.

Idk this is kinda just rambling but yea I think jcarl is a good vig/lynch target for tomorrow.



And that's not even very in depth. I get the feeling that grush isn't even that convinced on jcarl from that post. It's like he's trying to say something, that he can point to be and "I knew he was scum" but not actually be the cause of his death.

Does somebody see something I'm not seeing because this just screams mafia to me.

Grush is known for being useless
(e.g. Dr.H filter at the start talking about Grush)

In 5 to 7 games with starsenses, it hasn't been wrong yet. I am not against policy lynchin Grush (as he is almost unreadable) BUT. would prefer to keep him to the end.

Thats my 2c, others may beg to differ.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
March 07 2013 01:31 GMT
#3691
Yes, now that you remind me I think I remember something along those lines. So with that in mind I'll just keep him on the back burner for now.
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
March 07 2013 01:39 GMT
#3692
On March 07 2013 09:47 MilkSuckler wrote:
Either way.. JJ correctly called out Wade Fell as Detective IN THE THREAD.

I wonder what the benefit of that was for town?

Wade wasnt under high suspicion then....Conveniently JJ hasnt been able to JK since Night 1 when he jailed Toad.... isnt it convenient that when Aquanim is RB'd ... JJ forgets to send in his action?

I think we need to policy lynch JJ

In fact, I am voting him now.
##Vote: JungleJorge


He also claimed when it wasn't really helpful, but we didn't kill him for that either. JJ is confirmed town in my eyes; voting for him alone is enough for me to want to lynch you.
The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 07 2013 01:41 GMT
#3693
On March 07 2013 10:20 MilkSuckler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 10:16 randombum wrote:
Decided to start reading filters just based off the order list and composing my thoughts about each one as I go along.

So start with grush. First thing that caught my attention:
On February 21 2013 05:59 grush57 wrote:
yessiree, tho that was the only time my actions didn't get taken, maybe cuz I only sent it to co-host but I will send both this game

If we never figure out the odd night two I think grush deserves extra attention. The fact that he has "forgotten" to submit an action to both hosts before might be something he kept in mind.
On March 01 2013 06:14 grush57 wrote:
I'm so useless this game :'(


Sums up my opinion of grush. He plays around with starsense and then nothing else. Very empty filter. His only reads have been sure that toad is mafia. Very sure on geript being mafia, and then a one liner saying he doesn't like RO and Hassy. His most recent reads are aqua/jcarl. I won't fault him for who he has been targeting. Because I had suspicisions on toad, jcarl, RO and hassy, but its how he has done it. There's literally only one piece on analysis from him this whole game. and that's

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 03 2013 14:25 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 14:10 MilkSuckler wrote:
On March 03 2013 13:58 grush57 wrote:
Surely atleast some scum tried to switch to Geript. I doubt scum would get in the position for both candidates to be scum.

Agreed (somewhat)
geript (6): DoctorHelvetica, geript, Chezinu, jcarlsoniv, MilkSuckler, glurio,

What do you think about JCarlsoniv grush57?

On March 03 2013 13:58 grush57 wrote:
Tho if geript is scum then we got this in the bag.

y?

2 scum left baby! idk I just said something random man

and jcarlsoniv....

Well he kind of defended for Chez like why would he shoot town when he could get counter claimed.
Plus he shot milkman, which wasn't the strongest town leader this game.
Basically he made some good arguments but Chez is scum

But then there's also stuff about throwing suspicion on Toad and JJ, and while he also sais bad stuff about Chez he wants to lynch geript, but that was after Dr H.

And then there's this

Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 11:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Gettin' real tired of your shit, Chez



which strikes me as a scum to scumbuddy post.

Idk this is kinda just rambling but yea I think jcarl is a good vig/lynch target for tomorrow.



And that's not even very in depth. I get the feeling that grush isn't even that convinced on jcarl from that post. It's like he's trying to say something, that he can point to be and "I knew he was scum" but not actually be the cause of his death.

Does somebody see something I'm not seeing because this just screams mafia to me.

Grush is known for being useless
(e.g. Dr.H filter at the start talking about Grush)

In 5 to 7 games with starsenses, it hasn't been wrong yet. I am not against policy lynchin Grush (as he is almost unreadable) BUT. would prefer to keep him to the end.

Thats my 2c, others may beg to differ.

this is correct.
Expect the unexpected in the kingdom of madness
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 07 2013 01:45 GMT
#3694
On March 07 2013 10:39 TestSubject893 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 09:47 MilkSuckler wrote:
Either way.. JJ correctly called out Wade Fell as Detective IN THE THREAD.

I wonder what the benefit of that was for town?

Wade wasnt under high suspicion then....Conveniently JJ hasnt been able to JK since Night 1 when he jailed Toad.... isnt it convenient that when Aquanim is RB'd ... JJ forgets to send in his action?

I think we need to policy lynch JJ

In fact, I am voting him now.
##Vote: JungleJorge


He also claimed when it wasn't really helpful, but we didn't kill him for that either. JJ is confirmed town in my eyes; voting for him alone is enough for me to want to lynch you.

Lead the lynch on me then.. might be the first proper stance you have taken all game IIRC.

We didnt kill him when he claimed, because Chezinu came into the picture... I already stated before it made no sense to claim.. because if he saved Toad (before modkill came into the picture).. he was outting himself as JK, and toad already outted himself as medic.

Again... JJ early claim.. his defense on prome... his convenient fail to submit RB - when Aqua is RB'd (when suggesting he has powers).. and now his claim to having been RB'd

The story doesnt add up... and I see no reason why he confirmed town?

=======
The only thing that makes sense is if someone else steps up and says they were RB'd.. then I would suggest policy lynching that person to ascertain if lying (if spilt red.. Then JJ is red .. and if spilt green.. JJ is confirmed)
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
March 07 2013 01:55 GMT
#3695
If JJ is scum, that means either Vivax is also scum or there are 2 scum RBs (because of the RB claims from N1). I see those 2 situations as unlikely enough that, for now anyway, JJ is confirmed town to me.

Since you think JJ is scum, which one of those 2 things do you believe to be true, Mocsta?
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
March 07 2013 01:56 GMT
#3696
I guess another possibility is that vivax is SK and was lying about the RB N1, but I see that as unlikely too.
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 07 2013 01:59 GMT
#3697
On March 07 2013 10:55 TestSubject893 wrote:
If JJ is scum, that means either Vivax is also scum or there are 2 scum RBs (because of the RB claims from N1). I see those 2 situations as unlikely enough that, for now anyway, JJ is confirmed town to me.

Since you think JJ is scum, which one of those 2 things do you believe to be true, Mocsta?

I forgot about Vivax RB claim.. kk.. thanks for reminding me,
so yes that blows that out of the water then

Apparently Vivax has shot mafia before to establish town cred, but, again, he coulda easily shot Geript/hassybaby or any other lurker. I dont think there was a requirement for him to shoot RO (i.e. NK bus)

So based on that, Vivax/JJ cleared then.

hmmmm, unless someone shows specifically why aqua is scum, I wont vote to lynch off just the RB claim.

So I am left back to Glurio

DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 07 2013 01:59 GMT
#3698
Lmao don't policy lynch jj

I didnt policy lynch anybody, I thought toades was scum 100% on behavior

I never defend wos I just havent read his filter yet

Lynch milksuckler
RIP Aaliyah
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 07 2013 02:00 GMT
#3699
glurio almost looks scummy enough for him to be a better lynch than aqua.

hence lynch aqua

if you think jj is scum then you are over thinking yourself into moronicity.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 07 2013 02:01 GMT
#3700
On March 07 2013 10:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Lynch milksuckler

LOL.. this is serious comment from you Dr.H?
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