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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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TestSubject893
United States774 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On March 06 2013 10:35 TestSubject893 wrote: Jeez, I don't understand what was going through geript's head to act the way he did. I guess its not worth while to dwell on it right now though. I feel like things got a lot more wide open with neither Hassy or geript flipping scum. (We've had relatively easy decisions on the lynches up until now.) I think looking more closely at randombum could be a good move from here. I'll reexamine him. I'm glad you popped up in here to give a non-committal summary. I demand to see your own independent thoughts on Randombum by the end of the night cycle. | ||
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TestSubject893
United States774 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On March 06 2013 10:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Vivax, will you shoot at Randombum tonight? What? Didn't he already shoot RO? Unless you're assuming he's SK... | ||
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MilkSuckler
Swaziland597 Posts
On March 06 2013 10:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote: If I survive to Day 4 it means one of two things. 2. Scum are intentionally avoiding shooting "big name vets" (I hate saying that) to mask that they are led by one. - This is a plan I've personally employed as scum, to intentionally hit lurkers/less experienced players to push suspicion onto different vets around Day 3-4. On March 06 2013 10:10 MilkSuckler wrote: Though it would be AWESOME if Dr.H or WF was scum.. i find it unlikely given the general apathy of scum play so far.. suggest they were defeated from the start. by awesome i mean. awesome scum play: I still think this outcome is unlikely; however if the next 2/3 lurker lynches don't produce fruits, whoever is left should DEFINITELY consider policy lynching either of you. | ||
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The Macho Man
171 Posts
On March 02 2013 01:17 glurio wrote: Ok i caught up. (Kinda skimmed since grushs fakeshot.) I believe vivax is telling the truth with his roleblock and vig statement. Also i think chez is probably a misguided town-dayvig would scum be so bold and really just shoot someone who isn't a big scumread in the face like that? I took a look at vayesh's filter. The reads he mentioned are the following: Wade Fell + Show Spoiler + On February 27 2013 06:36 VayeshMoru wrote: It has come to the annuls of a man so lazy he forgot to don his mask. The shadows that adorned the face of this everywhere layer should come to reach the eyes of all. Tremble the men of black should start. The marching feet of justice shall not halt. A list of reads by VE where he thinks Toad might be third party + Show Spoiler + On February 27 2013 07:15 VayeshMoru wrote: of those thoughts Vayesh sees one common thought. A second thought is almost in align and the third is not yet fully concluded. The amphibian seems more some mutating thing, or perhaps the one who sells spirits. The man of bovine is still not fully alluded. geript + Show Spoiler + On February 27 2013 09:25 VayeshMoru wrote: the ripped man is a man of the darkness. His serpentine ways are merely a habit of his nature Here a list of DrH where he agrees: layabout JJ geript testsubject vivax + Show Spoiler + On February 27 2013 11:17 VayeshMoru wrote: Vayesh likes the words flowing from your gallifreyan mouth. The synconization of thoughts is more alike than that of any other soul. The logical conclusion is to give you power of the death machines. Toad scum/3rd party again + Show Spoiler + On February 28 2013 07:40 VayeshMoru wrote: Seriously stop dude. This entire play of yours is extremely anti town. I like VE. When hes on the ball he is a beast. Its getting him to that zone though and personally I find he works better at it with less pressure on him instead of more. However you just said "him for mayor isn't what I want" and then describe him as volatile, and emotional" after calling him stupid. If you were town you would not want this man in office. Toad is scum / third party geript again + Show Spoiler + On February 28 2013 11:02 VayeshMoru wrote: geript is scum so fear him you should not Chez scum/3rd party + Show Spoiler + On March 01 2013 08:50 VayeshMoru wrote: This post from you shows a large lack of understanding of the bc and chez meta for mafia. I will agree that chez is likely mafia or third party. My reasoning however is based on how upset he was about rolling red in LIX. He had 0 interest in the game when he rolled red then and similar level of sentiment here would indicate same shit. However given that he attempted to save some of his team in LIX and has done dickall here I would argue third party more likely than red. Given that I was posting the way I was the contributions I made were imo fine as well as the fact I came out and stopped you from doing something stupid. I am fine with a vig shot on macho or grush as they have near crap to really form a solid lynchable opinion on at this venture. I seriously want someone to stop this shit ive seen reoccuring in virtually every game ive played in recently where people get to say "bc is scum or likely scum shoot him/lynch him" with no reasons posted. It leads me to post lists of who I think is scum and not give anyone the benefit of my thought process as people piss me off to the point I feel they don't deserve it. Stop trying to discredit me without an actual case. And his death post: If you just look at the posts i quoted isolated, geript is clear winner with 4 posts about him. I do think we can find scum if we look at what he posted because there must be a reason why he got killed. He mentioned the following people (number of times they got mentioned): geript (4) toad (2) chez (2) JJ (2) layabout (2) hasyy (1) jcarlsoninv (1) wade fell (1) vivax (1) testsubject (1) Summuing up what someone else did is super scummy becasue it is a great way to look like your contributing when your really not. if people wanted to see what vayesh had said in the game they could just read his filter rendering this post by glurio pointless besides making himself look like contributing. On March 04 2013 08:45 glurio wrote: That is such a weird post. I really don't understand it. Sorry for not being here much this weekend. RO does look pretty scummy. But so does geript, and if we follow vayesh's reads (he was right with chez too) he should be lynched tomorrow imo. And yes i believe jcarlsoniv is a good vig shot. He also continues ti hide behind a dead mans read instead of his own. This is scummy becasue he dosn't want the responsiblity of putting his own thoughts out there and ants to use the wieight of confirmed town to support what he says. Combine this with overall lack of activity and concern for the lynch and he has an extremly high chance to be mafia. This guy should be our lynch tomorrow. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On March 06 2013 10:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote: If I survive to Day 4 it means one of two things. 1. Scum won't waste a shot on me with 1 KP assuming I'm a veteran or there could be another doc in the game 2. Scum are intentionally avoiding shooting "big name vets" (I hate saying that) to mask that they are led by one. - This is a plan I've personally employed as scum, to intentionally hit lurkers/less experienced players to push suspicion onto different vets around Day 3-4. jcarlsoniv, why would you believe Chezinu is town and JungleJorge is somehow a scumslipper? You're one of only three people to not vote Chez yesterday including myself and geript (who voted for himself). Do you still believe that Vivax and JungleJorge hatched a plan together? Would you suggest they are the two remaining scum? If anyone else considers that to be the case, note that Prom FoS'd JJ before he was lynched and Vivax FoS'd JJ as well in his largest post. I don't remember saying that I think Vivax and JJ hatched a plan together? I thought Chez would flip town because I honestly thought he would be a better player than that. I was mistaken. I began leaning town on JJ because of his RB claim, but after last night's shenanigans (or lack thereof - still speculating on whether or not scum sent in their actions), who the hell knows? I could certainly see Vivax being SK, and if he is, it means he'll be shooting someone else tonight. | ||
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The Macho Man
171 Posts
On March 06 2013 11:12 jcarlsoniv wrote: I don't remember saying that I think Vivax and JJ hatched a plan together? I thought Chez would flip town because I honestly thought he would be a better player than that. I was mistaken. I began leaning town on JJ because of his RB claim, but after last night's shenanigans (or lack thereof - still speculating on whether or not scum sent in their actions), who the hell knows? I could certainly see Vivax being SK, and if he is, it means he'll be shooting someone else tonight. he has to shoot so his claim makes very little sense from an sk perspective he is extremely likely to be town. what do you think of glurio? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On March 06 2013 11:15 The Macho Man wrote: he has to shoot so his claim makes very little sense from an sk perspective he is extremely likely to be town. what do you think of glurio? Pretty much...this is why I think Vivax is probably town. We'll find out tonight with # of shots anyway. Unless of course there is no SK and Vivax as mafia shot RO to throw us off...but that strikes me as being really really dumb. So Soniv, if you plan on sticking around for more than 5 minutes, who are your scumreads right now and why? | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On March 06 2013 11:25 WaveofShadow wrote: Pretty much...this is why I think Vivax is probably town. We'll find out tonight with # of shots anyway. Unless of course there is no SK and Vivax as mafia shot RO to throw us off...but that strikes me as being really really dumb. So Soniv, if you plan on sticking around for more than 5 minutes, who are your scumreads right now and why? Not quite sure at the moment. I was fairly sure that either geript or hassy would flip scum. I feel like there's one (if not both) in the following list: WoS, DrH, WF, randombum, Macho Man Need to relook though. | ||
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MilkSuckler
Swaziland597 Posts
On March 06 2013 11:15 The Macho Man wrote: what do you think of glurio? (1) You are off my lynch list.. This was a really good contribution in my mind. (2) I support Glurio tomorrow > randombum I really like what you found, and it made me realise two things (that are in your content but not highlighted) (A) On March 02 2013 01:17 glurio wrote: I believe vivax is telling the truth with his roleblock and vig statement. Also i think chez is probably a misguided town-dayvig would scum be so bold and really just shoot someone who isn't a big scumread in the face like that? Now for those saying, Jcarlsoniv also thougth Chez was town day-vig.. check out the difference in approach On March 02 2013 03:20 jcarlsoniv wrote: If chez was scum, he knows milkman is town, and that shooting him would raise suspicion. Shooting first as a scum day vig is risky because of counter claiming (which no one did). jcarlsoniv actually presents uncertainty, and shows a mindset associated with trying to figure things out with the limited information we know. Glurio on the other hand, has come to a direct conclusion with no indication of insight... In fact he actually attempts to create a syllogism: Major Premise: Reference to Vivax being bold with his RB/Vig Statement Minor Premise: Reference to Chezinu being bold with his Day-Vig target. Conclusion: Chezinu probably be town. He adds further strength to this syllogism, but ending with the question "would scumbe so bold and really just shoot someone who isn't a big scumread in the face like that?" I find, it is scum who often answer questions, by throwing in a WIFOM question... Town take a stance (whether right or wrong, usually due to tunnelled thoughts).. So glurio approach here is indeed scummy. & (B) My read on Glurio was purely based on activity not content. In fairness, being a newbie, activity is probably not a fair indicator of alignment; as playstyles are still developing. So discarding that out the window, I see no positives for Glurio. P.S. On March 04 2013 08:45 glurio wrote: Iamperfection found this scummy because glurio is hiding behind the words of vayehs, and I agree with that.RO does look pretty scummy. But so does geript, and if we follow vayesh's reads (he was right with chez too) he should be lynched tomorrow imo. I find it even SCUMMIER, that he hides behind the words of BC to then: attempt to diffuse the RO lynch, by presenting Geript. Nice work TMM, I will be voting Glurio tomorrow. | ||
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MilkSuckler
Swaziland597 Posts
On March 06 2013 11:30 jcarlsoniv wrote: I feel like there's one (if not both) in the following list: WoS, DrH, WF, randombum, Macho Man Need to relook though. Randombum + Glurio Glurio first. Randombum second. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
I remember feeling very strongly early that he was town; but I'll check to be sure. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
wasn't it you who said that his jailer claim made you more certain than ever that he was scum? | ||
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The Macho Man
171 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On March 06 2013 12:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote: wait, jcarls wasn't it you who said that his jailer claim made you more certain than ever that he was scum? On March 04 2013 09:18 jcarlsoniv wrote: Yeah, I no longer believe JJ to be scum. After the RB claim and the subsequent RO flip, JJ looks pretty good. I'm not sure about aqua, but I'm somewhat inclined to listen to WF this go around. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On March 06 2013 10:36 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I'm glad you popped up in here to give a non-committal summary. I demand to see your own independent thoughts on Randombum by the end of the night cycle. On March 06 2013 10:38 TestSubject893 wrote: Sure thing DrH, I'm on it~    | ||
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JungleJorge
Uganda104 Posts
On March 06 2013 09:36 Aquanim wrote: 1) There are other reasons why scum KP might not have been effective. Town JOAT is probably most plausible. 2) If Vivax is SK it should be blindingly obvious tomorrow or the day after and we can vote him then. There's no point in lynching him before then. 3) Pretty sure Vivax is town, have been since before he claimed vigilante. No one has claimed to have taken a shot. There is no reason a townie should hide that he has taken a shot. Only possible explanations are those that I've stated previously. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On March 04 2013 09:15 Vivax wrote: I shot RO yes. If what you say is true then there should be a second guy roleblocked by scum, unless layabout is the mafia roleblocker. Uh...didn't you ask him yourself if he claimed RO kill and he said yes? | ||
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