EPTOn March 06 2013 09:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I'm assuming there's a method to your grouping?
I'm assuming there's a method to your grouping?
Thats only for me to know.
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MilkSuckler
Swaziland597 Posts
Thats only for me to know. | ||
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JungleJorge
Uganda104 Posts
On March 06 2013 09:20 Aquanim wrote: I'd agree with you but voting Vivax was even worse. Aren't you the guy who was roleblocked? How do you explain the night actions? Shouldn't you be even more suspicious that vivax is SK, since the alternative is that you are scum? | ||
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Vivax
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On March 06 2013 09:17 JungleJorge wrote: I'll order every geript voter in order of terribleness: Everyone is terrible. Sup Bugs. | ||
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
On March 06 2013 09:31 JungleJorge wrote: Aren't you the guy who was roleblocked? How do you explain the night actions? Shouldn't you be even more suspicious that vivax is SK, since the alternative is that you are scum? 1) There are other reasons why scum KP might not have been effective. Town JOAT is probably most plausible. 2) If Vivax is SK it should be blindingly obvious tomorrow or the day after and we can vote him then. There's no point in lynching him before then. 3) Pretty sure Vivax is town, have been since before he claimed vigilante. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
I thought you were massively misposting or something, you actually want me to do that? Alright give me a bit. And I'll say a few things before I start: I don't regret lynching Geript. For those (such as JJ) who think his lynch was a mistake, just look at his play. He made himself impossible to ignore, and impossible not to lynch. Remember his reads, his gameplay and remember what I'm saying now, and we'll see where D4 takes us. | ||
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MilkSuckler
Swaziland597 Posts
On March 06 2013 09:38 WaveofShadow wrote: Lol Mocsta what the fuck? I thought you were massively misposting or something, you actually want me to do that? Alright give me a bit. And I'll say a few things before I start: I don't regret lynching Geript. For those (such as JJ) who think his lynch was a mistake, just look at his play. He made himself impossible to ignore, and impossible not to lynch. Remember his reads, his gameplay and remember what I'm saying now, and we'll see where D4 takes us. It shouldnt take long.. you should live reads on everyone.. im not asking for justification.. its order the ppl from the 4 groups | ||
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MilkSuckler
Swaziland597 Posts
On March 06 2013 09:36 Aquanim wrote: 1) There are other reasons why scum KP might not have been effective. Town JOAT is probably most plausible. 2) If Vivax is SK it should be blindingly obvious tomorrow or the day after and we can vote him then. There's no point in lynching him before then. 3) Pretty sure Vivax is town, have been since before he claimed vigilante. Sorry, why is it more plausible for JOAT > SK (whether Vivax or not) | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Haha I'm really interested in seeing what you think you can learn from this; hell I could just pick any of these and order them any way I want just to see how you'll react. On March 06 2013 09:14 MilkSuckler wrote: WoS.. Please order these 3 in scumminess (scummiest first) Lessee...Layabout first and I dunno 'bout the other two. OO, Random? Please order these 3 in scumminess (scummiest first) Grush, Aqua, Glurio Please order these 3 in scumminess (scummiest first) I'm very unsure as to these three. The vig claim from Vivax kinda has me convinced tbh, but there's always SK possibility...it'll be easier to tell after night. Probs the order they're already in. Please order these 3 in scumminess (scummiest first) I think you're probably the scummiest out of all three. WF/DrH tied. If you want 12 reasons as to these twelve reads then gl, 'cause it'll be a while. I'm honestly not sure what you hope to gain from this besides some massively fucked up association case. You can implicate me for wanting Geript dead since D1 practically but I feel I was justified. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
On March 06 2013 09:42 MilkSuckler wrote: Sorry, why is it more plausible for JOAT > SK (whether Vivax or not) Barring an extremely unlikely scenario, if there is an SK it must be Vivax and he must have really badly not thought through his vigilante claim. JOAT is not hugely likely but SK is even more unlikely and, I repeat, if Vivax is SK he MUST out himself by shooting every night and until then there is no point in worrying about it. If and when we conclude there is no SK, JOAT is the next reasonable hypothesis. | ||
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MilkSuckler
Swaziland597 Posts
On March 06 2013 09:46 WaveofShadow wrote: [/b]If you want 12 reasons as to these twelve reads then gl, 'cause it'll be a while. I'm honestly not sure what you hope to gain from this besides some massively fucked up association case. You can implicate me for wanting Geript dead since D1 practically but I feel I was justified. Nothing complicated, I just wanted to know if we were on the same page. Or not.. its not associating or implicating anyone. Geript fucked himself up by not trying to take consistently take emotional stances. I am more disappointed we lost a perfect lynch record, than that we lynched Geript. | ||
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MilkSuckler
Swaziland597 Posts
On March 06 2013 09:48 Aquanim wrote: Barring an extremely unlikely scenario, if there is an SK it must be Vivax and he must have really badly not thought through his vigilante claim. JOAT is not hugely likely but SK is even more unlikely and, I repeat, if Vivax is SK he MUST out himself by shooting every night and until then there is no point in worrying about it. If and when we conclude there is no SK, JOAT is the next reasonable hypothesis. KK.. in my opinion. no point talking about it till after the night cycle. See how many NKs there are, and take it from there. Thank God mutant MUST shoot, should make it easy to ascertain. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Jcarlsoniv grush glurio randombum These are the worst 4 offenders imo. I include Glurio even though I believe him to be town based on meta. iamp and JJ are toeing the line right now; have contributed more lately and been slightly more useful, especially JJ. OO I consider to be lurking since he didn't do anything for almost 3 days. (Although his de-lurk was pretty decent.) That is 7 players here with not a great amount of activity this game.VERY easy for one or both scum to be hiding here since none of them (aside from iamp and maybe OO) have been under any amount of real pressure at all or done a great deal of contributing. | ||
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MilkSuckler
Swaziland597 Posts
On March 06 2013 10:03 WaveofShadow wrote: My stance right now is since we (probably) don't have any vig bullets left we need to start eliminating the rest of the lurkers, or at the very least get them to speak the fuck up. It is way too easy for the final two (plus 3rd party?) to hide. Jcarlsoniv grush glurio randombum These are the worst 4 offenders imo. I include Glurio even though I believe him to be town based on meta. iamp and JJ are toeing the line right now; have contributed more lately and been slightly more useful, especially JJ. OO I consider to be lurking since he didn't do anything for almost 3 days. (Although his de-lurk was pretty decent.) That is 7 players here with not a great amount of activity this game.VERY easy for one or both scum to be hiding here since none of them (aside from iamp and maybe OO) have been under any amount of real pressure at all or done a great deal of contributing. I am inclined to agree. Though it would be AWESOME if Dr.H or WF was scum.. i find it unlikely given the general apathy of scum play so far.. suggest they were defeated from the start. I am inclined to consider one of the below three should be tomorrows lynch Randombum; Aquanim; TheMachoMan I liked randombum earlier, but, yes, recently he has been non-existent. Actually I would vote for him now if I could. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On March 06 2013 10:10 MilkSuckler wrote: I am inclined to agree. Though it would be AWESOME if Dr.H or WF was scum.. i find it unlikely given the general apathy of scum play so far.. suggest they were defeated from the start. I am inclined to consider one of the below three should be tomorrows lynch Randombum; Aquanim; TheMachoMan I liked randombum earlier, but, yes, recently he has been non-existent. Actually I would vote for him now if I could. I'm curious. You say you agree, and yet you don't agree with WoS's opinion that I'm top scum. In fact, you even defended me during the day cycle. May I ask why you don't hate me like everyone else does? | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
Randombum has completely dipped out. Has he done anything beyond his Day 1 stuff? What seems suspicious to me is that he was very engaged on Day 1, but only engaged in his stupid argument about a scum mayor. His interest level dipped down completely when there was actually stuff to do and he hasn't been involved in the actual lynch discussions beyond one-liners and sheeping other people iirc. Aquanim/jcarlsoniv are my guess for the other two scum but I'll set aside some time tonight to look hard at WoS. To extend a figurative olive branch to the deceased Geript. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
1. Scum won't waste a shot on me with 1 KP assuming I'm a veteran or there could be another doc in the game 2. Scum are intentionally avoiding shooting "big name vets" (I hate saying that) to mask that they are led by one. - This is a plan I've personally employed as scum, to intentionally hit lurkers/less experienced players to push suspicion onto different vets around Day 3-4. jcarlsoniv, why would you believe Chezinu is town and JungleJorge is somehow a scumslipper? You're one of only three people to not vote Chez yesterday including myself and geript (who voted for himself). Do you still believe that Vivax and JungleJorge hatched a plan together? Would you suggest they are the two remaining scum? If anyone else considers that to be the case, note that Prom FoS'd JJ before he was lynched and Vivax FoS'd JJ as well in his largest post. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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MilkSuckler
Swaziland597 Posts
On March 06 2013 10:16 jcarlsoniv wrote: I'm curious. You say you agree, and yet you don't agree with WoS's opinion that I'm top scum. In fact, you even defended me during the day cycle. May I ask why you don't hate me like everyone else does? I already explained my thoughts on you before.. I dont see why a scum would hard defend a 100% dead Chezinu (and it was obvious there was no coming back from him).. Townies stick up for scum all the time; that doesn't make you scum. For me: You are in the bad townie category, and I have no interest in furthering your lynch. Having said that I wouldnt defend you either - that is your job; if someone is pushing for your lynch, my responsibility as a townie would be to find a better alternative. (See below) ============ As I stated prior, Randombum ticks all the boxes for scum play (including, the slowly decaying thread contributions to signify bored VT) TheMachoMan has not lived up to his promise of increasing post count (as this is now his sole game). His contributions are mainly +1 (e.g. He plus +1'd me on Restraining Order). I am satisfied with him as my 2nd lynch choice. | ||
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TestSubject893
United States774 Posts
I feel like things got a lot more wide open with neither Hassy or geript flipping scum. (We've had relatively easy decisions on the lynches up until now.) I think looking more closely at randombum could be a good move from here. I'll reexamine him. | ||
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